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Re: [Framers] Anyone have any spiffy FM resume templates?

2017-03-17 Thread Writer

So...like...does this mean there's going to be lots of vacancies soon? =D

Nadine

  From: FrameUsers Admin 
 To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. 

 Sent: Friday, March 17, 2017 12:28 PM
 Subject: Re: [Framers] Anyone have any spiffy FM resume templates?

Frameusers, I've added Lin SIms' resume template to the 
FrameUsers.com site. You can find it here:
http://www.frameusers.com/tasks/

While you are there, look around the site. I believe you can find 
just about everything you'll need for Frame-related work. If you 
can't, please let me know off-list and we'll figure out how to add it 
to the site.

Carol Elkins
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At 11:52 AM 3/15/2017, you wrote:
>I've put in a request to Carol to see if she'd be willing to host it 
>on the Framers site. In all honesty, all I really did was take the 
>two formats that Adobe created and melded them together to suit my tastes.

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Re: [Framers] devolution: Framemaker to Word

2017-01-27 Thread Writer

Bill:

Re: Master Documents
See this bit of advice: 
http://www.addbalance.com/word/masterdocuments.htm#PageStart

As for converting using Mif2Go. We did it at a place where I worked several 
years ago. I don't remember it being that difficult. This weekend, I'll check 
my home computer to see if I have instructions that we might have written up 
for it.

FWIW, this is old, but might still be helpful: 
http://framers.frameusers.narkive.com/WV1P1OEv/mif2go

Nadine

  From: Keith Soltys <keith.sol...@tmx.com>
 To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" <framers@lists.frameusers.com> 
 Sent: Friday, January 27, 2017 9:00 AM
 Subject: Re: [Framers] devolution: Framemaker to Word

I feel your pain. I had to do this with a book a couple of years ago

The biggest issue I found was working with multiple files. The original
book was about 20 files. I ended up merging it into six. Fortunately there
weren't a lot of cross references to deal with.

Word is quite capable of handling large files now (300 pages is the biggest
I have). The document map and search features are actually superior to
FrameMaker's IMHO (I use Word 2013). Do make sure to use styles rigorously
and define your numbered and bulleted lists properly using the new
multilevel list styles. Here's a link to a blog article
<http://www.soltys.ca/blog/2015/07/how-to-create-a-word-2013-template-from-scratch.html>
I wrote after we upgraded everyone to Word 2013 and I was able to rebuild
our templates from scratch.

If you have reusable content or want to use conditional text in Word, I
highly recommend 36 Software's SmartDocs add-in. It's not cheap but it
makes Word a viable alternative to FrameMaker for many situations, and in
some areas it's better than Frame (the snippet handling, variables, and
snapshots).

Regards
Keith

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On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 7:24 AM, Bill Greve <bill.gr...@worldpay.us> wrote:

> For [reasons], I have a large number of Framemaker books (FM11) I need to
> convert to Word docs.
>
> I've just pulled up the Mif2Go user's guide to try and figure out how that
> works. Does anyone have any Mif2Go experience to share? Tips/process/etc...
>
> Is there anything else anyone can recommend?
>
> My first thought is I need to create a Word template with style names
> mirroring the FM template. Then save FM files as rtf and somehow apply the
> Word template to successfully update the styles??? I'm expecting this to be
> slow and tedious.
>
> Majority of books are under 40 pages and just a handful of chapters that
> I'll just combine into a single Word doc. Then there's a decent handful of
> a few hundred pages with 15-20 chapters and appendices that makes me
> shudder thinking about maintaining these in Word. Is using Word's Master
> Document a viable solution for the more unwieldy FM books? If so, is it
> worth explaining to the people I'm handing them off to and no longer
> supporting?
>
>
> Thank you,
> Bill
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Re: [Framers] Who's in charge?

2016-11-29 Thread Writer

I don't know where you are geographically, Dennis, but you might want to get 
some training from Front Runner (www.front-runner.com). FR is in Toronto, 
Canada, but I believe they offer online training. I'm not sure if FR can 
provide 7.2 training, but they are pretty flexible. Certainly worth checking 
out.
Nadine

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 To: dennis.brunnenme...@gmail.com 
Cc: FrameMaker Posting 
 Sent: Tuesday, November 29, 2016 12:51 PM
 Subject: Re: [Framers] Who's in charge?

Hi, Dennis:

Be prepared to get a fire-hose full of replies. The list members are
generous indeed. No question is too small to ask, so don't be reluctant.
Once you get into your own "zone" of FrameMaker skill, you'll be answering
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Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question

2016-09-09 Thread Writer

Lately, every time I'm tempted to waste brain cells pondering why people do 
stuff the way they do, I go have a beer instead. I've been learning a lot about 
beer lately.
Nadine

  From: Robert Lauriston 
 To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com"  
 Sent: Friday, September 9, 2016 3:40 PM
 Subject: Re: [Framers] OT: Adobe Tool Question
   
If the source is in EPS and you don't have the originals, or the EPS
files were created by somebody who thought that was a reasonable
source format, that explains the odd requirement.

It's kind of like having only PDFs and not the original source.

On Fri, Sep 9, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Tammy Van Boening
 wrote:
>... I need to be able to work with an EPS source and
> then convert to something else, which is why I was asking about the correct
> tools.
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Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

2016-08-03 Thread Writer

Er...I meant a rebel without a clew.
Nadine

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Cc: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" <framers@lists.frameusers.com>; Framers 
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 Sent: Wednesday, August 3, 2016 2:22 PM
 Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content
   
Sometimes ya fight.

Sometimes ya don't

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Yes. No point in being a rebel.
Nadine

      From: Pat Christenson <pat.christen...@morningstar.com>
 To: Lin Sims <ljsims...@gmail.com>
Cc: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
 Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 5:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

Thanks for the reminder!

From: Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 4:11 PM
To: Pat Christenson <pat.christen...@morningstar.com>
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

Just don't forget to take the clew with you, or you'll be completely lost.

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Pat Christenson
<pat.christen...@morningstar.com<mailto:pat.christen...@morningstar.com>>
wrote:
Thank you, everyone who responded to my question.

I met with my managers today and we worked out a solution that's involves
creating a mythical beast that's half out-of-date user guide and
half-up-to-date release notes. When I'm not following the thread out of
that maze (are you loving my classical references?), I will be updating the
user guide, merging the two halves into one glorious golden fleece that men
will cross oceans to marvel at.

Thanks again.

-Original Message-
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+pat.christenson<
mailto:framers-bounces%2Bpat.christenson
>=morningstar@lists.frameusers.com<
mailto:morningstar@lists.frameusers.com>] On Behalf Of
r...@weststreetconsulting.com<mailto:r...@weststreetconsulting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 3:21 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content


Fine, you all can have the last word. I know better than to continue this
debate. I should have known better than to even start it.

Russ

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From: Robert Lauriston <rob...@lauriston.com<mailto:rob...@lauriston.com>>
To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>"
Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured  content
Message-ID:
 <can3yy4a5zr2tzurjgsnbhouxzt6ytpfovsuek3au-cr1a8y...@mail.gmail.com<
mailto:can3yy4a5zr2tzurjgsnbhouxzt6ytpfovsuek3au-cr1a8y...@mail.gmail.com>>
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Structured markup has been around longer than the web, PDFs, online help,
or personal computers.

Since you make your living from structured content, I'm not going to waste
time explaining why it's not the best choice for every set of requirements,
and why people are still creating interesting and useful unstructured
tools.

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 1:01 PM, <r...@weststreetconsulting.com<
mailto:r...@weststreetconsulting.com>> wrote:
> Pat, I'd like to assert that structured content is generally THE
> answer, period. Nothing interesting happens with unstructured content
> anymore, because the technology is decades old. Any technical writer
> in a high-demand environment should be using structured content. If
> you are not, you are now closer to the typewriter than you are to
> modern practices. ...


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Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

2016-08-03 Thread Writer

Yes. No point in being a rebel.
Nadine

  From: Pat Christenson <pat.christen...@morningstar.com>
 To: Lin Sims <ljsims...@gmail.com> 
Cc: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" <framers@lists.frameusers.com>
 Sent: Tuesday, August 2, 2016 5:25 PM
 Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content
   
Thanks for the reminder!

From: Lin Sims [mailto:ljsims...@gmail.com]
Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2016 4:11 PM
To: Pat Christenson <pat.christen...@morningstar.com>
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content

Just don't forget to take the clew with you, or you'll be completely lost.

On Tue, Aug 2, 2016 at 4:44 PM, Pat Christenson 
<pat.christen...@morningstar.com<mailto:pat.christen...@morningstar.com>> wrote:
Thank you, everyone who responded to my question.

I met with my managers today and we worked out a solution that's involves 
creating a mythical beast that's half out-of-date user guide and 
half-up-to-date release notes. When I'm not following the thread out of that 
maze (are you loving my classical references?), I will be updating the user 
guide, merging the two halves into one glorious golden fleece that men will 
cross oceans to marvel at.

Thanks again.

-Original Message-
From: Framers 
[mailto:framers-bounces+pat.christenson<mailto:framers-bounces%2Bpat.christenson>=morningstar@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:morningstar@lists.frameusers.com>]
 On Behalf Of 
r...@weststreetconsulting.com<mailto:r...@weststreetconsulting.com>
Sent: Friday, July 29, 2016 3:21 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com<mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com>
Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured content


Fine, you all can have the last word. I know better than to continue this 
debate. I should have known better than to even start it.

Russ

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Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2016 13:58:29 -0700
From: Robert Lauriston <rob...@lauriston.com<mailto:rob...@lauriston.com>>
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Subject: Re: [Framers] I'm pretty sure the answer is structured  content
Message-ID:
 
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Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8

Structured markup has been around longer than the web, PDFs, online help, or 
personal computers.

Since you make your living from structured content, I'm not going to waste time 
explaining why it's not the best choice for every set of requirements, and why 
people are still creating interesting and useful unstructured tools.

On Thu, Jul 28, 2016 at 1:01 PM, 
<r...@weststreetconsulting.com<mailto:r...@weststreetconsulting.com>> wrote:
> Pat, I'd like to assert that structured content is generally THE
> answer, period. Nothing interesting happens with unstructured content
> anymore, because the technology is decades old. Any technical writer
> in a high-demand environment should be using structured content. If
> you are not, you are now closer to the typewriter than you are to
> modern practices. ...


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Re: [Framers] Check out FrameUsers.com for everything FrameMaker!

2016-02-29 Thread Writer

*stands up and claps*
Nadine

  From: FrameUsers Admin 
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 Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 1:49 PM
 Subject: [Framers] Check out FrameUsers.com for everything FrameMaker!

Framers,

Please pay a visit to the newly remodeled FrameUsers.com Web site 
(http://www.frameusers.com/). It is a simple site that provides 
access to everything you may need to help you work with FrameMaker.

~Find user forums and helpful support sites for FrameMaker and related products
~Download all of the FrameMaker template packs
~Find vendors of Framemaker plug-ins and add-ons
~Access a library of FrameMaker documentation and Help files dating 
back to FM4.0 (we'd love it if someone could provide docs for v3.0 and earlier)
~Quickly find links to what you need from Adobe.com, including 
webinars, training videos, bug reporter, and previous FrameMaker releases

I've designed this site to be a GO-TO PORTAL that hopefully will save 
you a lot of time searching elsewhere. Please bookmark it and check 
it first when you need anything relating to FrameMaker. If you have 
links or documents that you think would be helpful to other Frame 
users, please email me off-list at ca...@frameusers.com.

Many thanks to domain owner Brad Anderson for allowing me to get this 
site back up and running as a resource for the FrameMaker community.

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Re: [Framers] Framemaker Training

2016-02-01 Thread Writer

I also recommend:
Front Runner Training: www.front-runner.comPublishing Smarter: 
www.publishingsmarter.com
Nadine

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Adobe has a training site. Here it is: 
http://training.adobe.com/certification.html. You should be able to find 
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Re: Is there a way to get around the issue of a book not allowing the same file more than once?

2015-06-16 Thread Writer

John:
I'm not sure if I mentioned this before (my apologies if I did). I'm sure 
you're not looking for another tool, but it seems to me that a lot of things 
you're trying to achieve can be done with WebWorks ePublisher PDF XSL FO 
output. If you want to discuss offline, please let me know. Perhaps I could set 
up a demo for you to test my theory. Rook coffee is accepted as demo payment. 
;-)
Nadine
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 Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2015 10:11 AM
 Subject: RE: Is there a way to get around the issue of a book not allowing the 
same file more than once?

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body.yiv9752584732hmmessage{font-size:12pt;font-family:Calibri;}--Hi John,

Does your file contain references or some type cross linking? Breaking up your 
file into multiple text insets may be your best option, but only put the 
content in that doesn't contain linking to other files. 

Another tip for using text insets. We have a paragraph format called tiny 
that we use to insert text insets. The style is nothing but a place holder or 
wrapper for text insets and has a line space of 3pt. This trick seems to 
alleviate problems with updating numbering (in case your insets use numbered 
lists) as well as other issues. 

Hope your week improved from last week!
-Laura

 Subject: Re: Is there a way to get around the issue of a book not allowing 
 the same file more than once?
 To: rentagoodb...@gmail.com
 From: john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com
 Date: Fri, 12 Jun 2015 15:12:49 -0400
 CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com

 I'd tried that...I had unpredictable resultsI was getting crashes that
 started when I implemented it and stopped when I removed them.

 BTW...I do realize why what I want would would never work...How does the
 same document address having different page numbers and section numbers if
 I should try to gen a book with both instances of the same file.

 Never mind...it was a tough week.

 John X Posada
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 Date: 06/12/2015 03:06 PM
 Subject: Re: Is there a way to get around the issue of a book not
 allowing the same file more than once?

 Instead of including it in the book, can you use it as as a text inset in
 two different places, instead?
 -Lise

 On Fri, Jun 12, 2015 at 1:48 PM, john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com wrote:
 Hi, guys...

 This probably isn't advisable, but it would make my life easier if FM11
 allowed the inclusion of the same file in more than one place in a book.

 Anyone accomplish something like this?

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Re: Now I need to unsubscribe from Adobe marketing phone calls?

2015-06-05 Thread Writer

Perhaps Adobe is really the original incarnation of the Sirius Cybernetics 
Corporation: http://hitchhikers.wikia.com/wiki/Sirius_Cybernetics_Corporation
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 Subject: Now I need to unsubscribe from Adobe marketing phone calls?

I've received several phone calls from Adobe sales reps who start the 
conversation by mentioning my attendance at one of the recent 
TechComm Webinars and ultimately ask me if I plan to upgrade to the 
new TCS release. On the first call, I was genuinely happy to give my 
feedback and to answer the rep's questions. On the next couple of 
calls, I explained that I had already answered the questions. On the 
call today I asked to be removed from their calling list. The rep 
told me that in order to do this, I would need to unsubscribe. 
Seriously? Now I need to unsubscribe from Adobe marketing phone calls?

I don't mind emails because they are not intrusive and I can ignore 
them if I choose. But why must I now go to the trouble of 
unsubscribing from marketing phone calls that I never agreed to 
receive in the first place? This is ridiculous.

I explained this to the rep and he said he would mention it in the 
email he would send me to unsubscribe.

Please, Adobe. Good customer service means be there when we ask for 
your help. Your marketing team is stepping beyond the boundaries that 
I believe are necessary to provide good customer service. You are 
trolling for sales and disrupting my workflow in the process. This is 
not the first time that I have received multiple calls from the same 
representative asking the same questions, and they simply must cease.

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Re: Adobe Customer Care-less - Yet another round

2015-05-29 Thread Writer

And one for Jenny and the Wimp...

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=frantics+boot+to+the+headFORM=VIRE1#view=detailmid=567A4D725F3828D72C0D567A4D725F3828D72C0D

Nadine

John Sgammato john.sgamm...@actifio.com wrote:
She's right, you know.

It's not always that way, but it's too often that way.

ymmv (but probably not by much)

On Fri, May 29, 2015 at 10:14 PM, Tammy Van Boening
tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote:

So, I log into my Adobe products account tonight to retrieve a serial number
for a registered product. I see that another product that I registered over
18 months ago, Acrobat XI Pro, for some reason is not listed. I attempt to
register the product online with the serial number that I have on the faded
product insert. I keep getting the message that the serial number is invalid .
. . even though it's the serial number that Adobe has provided! I start a chat
with Adobe Support. I am damn near explicitly accused of stealing the product
- where did I buy the product, when did I buy it, under what email? The real
kicker - at first, no such email exists, and I explode and voila, they
miraculously find the email (never mind that it's been my email with Adobe for
7 years) and yes, they do see that I have other products registered under this
email, but send a screen capture to provide proof of my installation. How
stupid - I could send a screen capture of anybody's computer - they have no
idea if it really is mine - but I oblige and send one. Not good enough - I
have to provide a receipt/proof of purchase. I reply that I have the DAMNED
serial number on the box, but for some reason, Adobe isn't recognizing it
online. Why isn't that good enough?

After 35 minutes of back and forth, I get We have escalated this. The
escalation team will see if they can figure out what's going on and get back
to you in 24 hours. Uh? I am working on setting up a new system after hours.
I need the damned serial number to work now!!! Not in 24 hours.

Typical Adobe we don't give a rat's a___ customer service.

After over 20 years of buying Adobe products (10 in corporate, 10
independently), this is how they treat a customer?

Adobe, if you're listening, pull your collective heads out of your b_s and
provide real customer service.

TVB

Tammy Van Boening

Owner/Principal

Spectrum Writing, LLC

www.spectrumwritingllc.com

TammyVB *AT* spectrumwritingllc *DOT* com

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Re: Setting up page numbers that restart with chapter number

2015-05-20 Thread Writer

Maybe I don't understand your goal. Can't you just use the $chapnum-page #
variable in your master page as described here:
http://help.adobe.com/en_US/FrameMaker/9.0/Using/WSd817046a44e105e21e63e3d11ab7f7960b-7ec2.html

Scroll down to Include book component numbers in headers or footers.
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Subject: Setting up page numbers that restart with chapter number

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attempted the exercise to set up a variable for page numbering that restarts
with each chapter number (1-1, 1-2, 1-3…2-1, 2-2, 2-3, etc.). I checked pages
355 and 356 in Matt Sullivan’s book, Unstructured FrameMaker 11. On p. 355
after step 7 it says to see those sections for details. Where are those
sections?? I checked the index and couldn’t find it. Agghh!! I also ran
through David Rivers’ tutorial on Lynda.com, but he only provided the basics
for setting up master pages with page number (p. 1, 2, 3, etc.). I haven’t
tried Google help yet, and not sure how to find this topic in the forum. My
company does not want to pay for me to take a 3-day Framemaker class, and so I
am on my own to learn this tool and figure everything out. Can any of you
point me to: Framemaker training that doesn’t cost more than $600 that can
teach me both a thorough run of the basics and more advanced tasks like this?
Web tutorials that address this topic? A simple, clear set of instructions
on how to set up page numbering that restarts with each chapter number without
corrupting the document? I’ll take any advice you can spare—thanks so much!!
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Re: Apply a page master style to a para format.

2015-05-15 Thread Writer

Yes, there is. I just don't have the instructions with me at the moment. If you
can wait until later today, I can send them to you. OR if you can't wait, look
up Master Page Mapping Table and Applying Master Pages. Like is this book
whisperwhich you can read online a bit in Amazon...like starting on page
238/whisper:
http://www.amazon.com/Publishing-Fundamentals-Unstructured-FrameMaker-11/dp/0982811853/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8qid=1427843450sr=8-1keywords=framemaker+11

Nadine

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Sent: Friday, May 15, 2015 1:05 PM
Subject: Apply a page master style to a para format.

Hi, guys...FM 11 unstructured.

Is there a way of defining that a specific Master Page be used when the
first para style is a specific style?

I have pages that start with the style ChapterTitle. It is only used one in
a file. Every page that starts with that, I'd like to apply the master page
Custom First to that page. Page two of that file reverts to Left/Right
model

John X Posada
AML Syst Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC RC Systems Control Analytics
| HSBC North America Holdings Inc
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Re: Frame 11 license becomes trial license

2015-05-08 Thread Writer

Michael:
When you say ePub, do you mean WebWorks ePublisher or something else?
If you mean WebWorks ePublisher, the suggestion in this article might help 
until you get your license sorted out (the article is a bit old, so not sure): 
http://www.webworks.com/Support/ePublisher/Legacy_Docs/Tech_Notes/Adobe_FrameMaker/EX_ePub9_Frame_Evaluation_Version_Error.shtml
Nadine
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enter?    

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Subject: Frame 11 license becomes trial license    My Frame 11 license has 
stopped working.  This hasn't happened to any of my colleagues.  One day, I was 
using ePub and Frame to generate .chm output.  The next morning, when I tried 
to do the same, Frame popped up a screen telling me to request a trial license. 
 This caused an ePub error because it couldn't start Frame.  When I tried 
starting Frame independently, I got the same thing.  I had an immediate 
deadline to deal with, so I set up a trial licence of Frame, hoping that ePub 
could use it.  It couldn't.

For various reasons, I don't have the information I need to access Adobe 
support.  I'm hoping I can do that on Monday.  But, in the mean time, has 
anyone had this experience?  Any idea why it's happening?  Any way to keep it 
from happening? 

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Re: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

2015-04-23 Thread Writer

John, what are your major housekeeping pain points?
Nadine

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 Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 1:35 PM
 Subject: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large
document set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.

Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take a
stab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may be
bringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean as
possible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195
pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.

Now...I'm in a very locked down environment, so I know I'm in for a
battle...this very well can be a 3-6 month project and I may loose.

Money is no object. I was able to easily justify a $500 application just to
check broken links (3 bullet points in an email) , but it took 4 months to
work through the process from request to license.

So...if I was to try to put together a shopping list together with as many
plugin components in as few different products as possible, what should
that be?

Thanks

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Re: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

2015-04-23 Thread Writer

I've heard good things about Silicon Prairie Software, although I have not used 
it: http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/
Nadine
  From: Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com
 To: john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com; 'framers' framers@lists.frameusers.com 
 Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 2:08 PM
 Subject: RE: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

Hi John,

As you know, I am a big fan of scripting. FrameMaker 11 has ExtendScript
built in, so one clandestine way of adding productivity to FrameMaker
without plugins is to learn to write some scripts. ExtendScript is basically
Adobe's version of JavaScript on top of FrameMaker's object model. If you
don't want to write them yourself, you can purchase them from others. And
because scripts are compiled at runtime, you usually get the source code so
you can reuse parts and pieces in your own scripts. Your learning will make
things a longer term effort, but it sounds like your procurement process
takes time anyway, so you may as well be adding to your skill set as you
learn.

I am doing an Adobe Webinar next Wednesday on ExtendScript in FrameMaker. If
you have a particular task in mind and attend the webinar, I will make sure
you get the script at no cost, or in exchange for a small donation to the
Roswell Cancer Center in Buffalo. I welcome some good ideas for scripts that
I can demonstrate. Please let me know if you have any questions or comments.
Thank you very much.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-366-4017
r...@frameexpert.com

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Sent: Thursday, April 23, 2015 1:36 PM
To: framers
Subject: What FM plugin suite give the most bang?

Hi, guys...I'm using FM11 unstructured and I maintain quite a large document
set...10 books of 2,000 pages each give or take.

Because of the amount of time I spend on housekeeping, I'm ready to take a
stab at adding plugins that will save me time. In addition, I may be
bringing in a team of 3-4 writers and I want the files to be as clean as
possible. When you evolve to 20,000 pages of document from an initial 195
pages in 2 years, ya get careless at times.

Now...I'm in a very locked down environment, so I know I'm in for a
battle...this very well can be a 3-6 month project and I may loose.

Money is no object. I was able to easily justify a $500 application just to
check broken links (3 bullet points in an email) , but it took 4 months to
work through the process from request to license.

So...if I was to try to put together a shopping list together with as many
plugin components in as few different products as possible, what should that
be?

Thanks

John X Posada
AML Syst  Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC  RC Systems Control  Analytics
| HSBC North America Holdings Inc
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Re: Flare vs DITA

2015-04-13 Thread Writer

Gillian, I'm really unclear why you think you need to get someone to write 
scripts for you. Getting a PDF from FM with or without Dita FMx is not hard. 
Time-consuming, but not hard. I haven't looked at the new output capabilities 
in FM 12, but they give you other options. As you already know, WebWorks 
ePublisher allows you to process DITA into PDF and HTML. The PDF output can be 
challenging, but you shouldn't need to hire anyone to write scripts. There are 
other tools, too, for processing Dita, but I'm not familiar with them.
What is your required output? What are you challenges? Do you need to get up 
and running faster than you have time to learn how to create output? Do you 
need a better way of managing your content?
I'd be happy to work with you offline to show you how to create PDFs from FM.
Nadine
 
  From: Gillian Flato gill6...@comcast.net
 To: Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com 
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com 
 Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 1:20 PM
 Subject: Re: Flare vs DITA
   
Thanks everyone.

Sorry I wasn’t clear. I’ve used DITA for about two years authoring with Oxygen 
and EasyDITA. I outsourced my script writing to a third party. That’s the 
problem with DITA. To get the docs and help to look professional, you have to 
outsource script writing and that’s expensive. 

I was looking for cheaper alternatives. I have used DITA-FMx and I may go that 
route.

I just wanted to know of Flare was a better alternative to structured Frame 
with DITA-FMx

Thanks
Gillian


 On Apr 13, 2015, at 9:08 AM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote:
 
 You can write topics with any tool, but Flare sort of forces you to,
 since the source is one file per topic (at least down to some heading
 level).
 
 Flare templates are extremely customizable.
 
 On Sun, Apr 12, 2015 at 12:52 PM, Gillian Flato gill6...@comcast.net wrote:
 How does Flare compare to DITA? It seems like you get all of the advantages 
 of topic-baesd authoring, without having to have someone write scripts for 
 you. Has anyone tried modifying their templates? How easy or difficult is 
 that. How is their help file making product?

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Re: Flare vs DITA

2015-04-13 Thread Writer

Gillian asked:
How does Flare compare to DITA? It seems like you get all of the advantages of 
topic-baesd authoring, without having to have someone write scripts for you. 
Has anyone tried modifying their templates? How easy or difficult is that. How 
is their help file making product?
IMHO, topic-based authoring is writing content in small chunks or modules. To 
quote Wikipedia:
A topic is a discrete piece of content that is about a specific subject, has 
an identifiable purpose, and can stand alone (does not need to be presented in 
context for the end-user to make sense of the content). Topics are also 
reusable. They can, when constructed properly (without reliance on other 
content for its meaning), be reused in any context anywhere needed. 
(http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Topic-based_authoring)

It does not imply that the content is typed (specialized).

DITA is content that is marked up semantically. Although you can create content 
in DITA that is topic-based, you don't have to.
So the difference at the content level between Flare and DITA is that content 
written in Flare is unstructured and not marked up semantically, and DITA is 
structured and marked up semantically.
Which approach is more advantageous is going to depend on what you need overall 
now and in the future.

Nadine From: Shmuel shmue...@gmail.com
 To: Gillian Flato gill6...@comcast.net; framers@lists.frameusers.com 
 Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 5:35 AM
 Subject: Re: Flare vs DITA
   
If you are interest in switching to topic-based authoring, and you are 
using Frame already, it might be easier to stick with Frame and switch 
to Structured Frame, which I believe is also topic-based authoring. 
(Someone please correct me if I'm wrong.)

--
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133


On 12-Apr-15 10:52 PM, Gillian Flato wrote:
 How does Flare compare to DITA? It seems like you get all of the advantages 
 of topic-baesd authoring, without having to have someone write scripts for 
 you. Has anyone tried modifying their templates? How easy or difficult is 
 that. How is their help file making product?

 Thanks
 Gillian
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Re: Training

2015-03-30 Thread Writer

Lynda.com?
Nadine
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 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com 
 Sent: Monday, March 30, 2015 2:47 PM
 Subject: Training
   
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div.yiv461958WordSection1 {}--Hi:    Over the years, I’ve seen several of 
you mention a training website where you can take courses on various programs – 
but the name completely escapes me.    Can someone send me the link?    Thanks, 
Alison       Alison Craig | Technical Documentation Lead Ultrasonix |130-4311 
Viking Way|Richmond, BC V6V 2K9 | analogicultrasound.com T 604-279-8550 ext 127 
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Re: Preface

2015-02-24 Thread Writer

It's the stuff that comes before the face and the postface.
Nadine
  From: Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com
 To: framers framers@lists.frameusers.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, February 24, 2015 5:13 PM
 Subject: Re: Preface

What do you mean by preface? What's in it?

On Tue, Feb 24, 2015 at 1:16 PM,  gill6...@comcast.net wrote:
 Do you guys still add a preface to your manuals? No one reads them and they
 cost money if you're translating the manuals, so I've heard that a lot of
 companies are moving away from including them. What's been your experience?
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Re: It's the little things that make you crazy

2015-01-29 Thread Writer

Does this thread help?
http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2011-August/023710.html
Nadine
  From: Christenson, Pat pchristen...@ftportfolios.com
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com 
 Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:25 PM
 Subject: It's the little things that make you crazy

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1.0in 1.0in 1.0in;}#yiv0765312349 div.yiv0765312349WordSection1 {}--Here’s 
mine.    FrameMaker 10, Windows    In tabbed display, when I point at the X to 
close the document, FrameMaker frequently displays the document pathname and 
then becomes unresponsive for several seconds. This is really annoying. Is 
there some way to turn off this “feature” (displaying pathname when pointing at 
a tab)?     Thanks in advance.    Pat Christenson Resource Coordinator 
Fitzgerald Marketing and Communications pchristen...@ftportfolios.com

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Re: It's the little things that make you crazy

2015-01-29 Thread Writer

I don't have FM in front of me at the mo. Did it work?
Nadine

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 To: Writer generic...@yahoo.ca; framers@lists.frameusers.com 
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 Subject: RE: It's the little things that make you crazy
   
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1.0in;}#yiv2984268696 div.yiv2984268696WordSection1 {}#yiv2984268696 Thanks, 
Nadine! I had looked at the preferences but it didn’t occur to me to these were 
considered “tool tips.”    Pat    

From: Writer [mailto:generic...@yahoo.ca]
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:21 PM
To: Christenson, Pat; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: It's the little things that make you crazy    Does this thread 
help? 

 http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2011-August/023710.html 

 Nadine    From: Christenson, Pat pchristen...@ftportfolios.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com
Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2015 12:25 PM
Subject: It's the little things that make you crazy    Here’s mine.   
FrameMaker 10, Windows   In tabbed display, when I point at the X to close the 
document, FrameMaker frequently displays the document pathname and then becomes 
unresponsive for several seconds. This is really annoying. Is there some way to 
turn off this “feature” (displaying pathname when pointing at a tab)?   Thanks 
in advance.   Pat Christenson Resource Coordinator Fitzgerald Marketing and 
Communications pchristen...@ftportfolios.com       

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Re: Please Unsubscribe

2015-01-15 Thread Writer

Lynn, I think you have to unsubscribe manually here: 
http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers (near the bottom of the 
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Enjoy your retirement Flora.

A rest well earned I am sure.

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Re: Setup has detected . . .

2015-01-02 Thread Writer

Cripe. What a way to start the new year.


Oh, I don't know. I thought that happened in Jan 2013: 
http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/2013-January/027553.html

;-)

I hope Tom's suggestion does the trick.

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Re: Viewing prior posts

2014-12-23 Thread Writer

Yes. Go here: http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/

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Re: why view on phone WAS: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped

2014-12-16 Thread Writer

I think Google safety glasses would be a better idea. That way, you kill two 
birds with one stone: information and safety. =D 

Oh, and a third benefit: hands free.
Nadine

  From: Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
 Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 1:28 PM
 Subject: why view on phone WAS: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally 
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{}#yiv1144396397 I think this is probably a proof of concept issue. I worked 
for a packaging machine making company that would love to be able to have their 
manuals available to operators as they walked around their machines. Sometimes 
the chain of machines was a block long. They have also considered issuing 
tablets with their machines for the operators to use.  Craig  

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Michael Norton
Sent: Monday, December 15, 2014 3:41 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: online FrameMaker 12 Documentation totally revamped  Thanks for 
the links Maxwell. The PDF looks interesting.  As for the HTML, I understand 
Responsive HTML is cool and all that and has some applications, but I am trying 
to come up with a scenario where I would look up something in FrameMaker Help 
on my phone. If I need to research something in FrameMaker Help, I think I 
would open a browser in one of my two desktop monitors instead of trying to 
read it on a tiny phone screen (Galaxy S3). Is this capability something 
requested by other Frame users or is Adobe simply showing that it can be done 
via Frame?    
…….…….…….…….…….…….……  Michael 
Norton | Technical Writer  
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Re: Persist a variable to the next file

2014-12-16 Thread Writer

This is a good use case for WebWorks ePublishers PDF XSL FO output. It allows 
you to create a PDF with fragments of documentation more efficiently that FMs 
PDF output.

Nadine

- Original Message -
 From: john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com
 To: framers framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Cc: 
 Sent: Wednesday, December 10, 2014 11:32 AM
 Subject: RE: Persist a variable to the next file

 OK...I have some time...let me go into greater detail. If there are holes
 in my explanation, attribute it to confidentiality.

 I have 5 main Lines of Business (LOBs) documented and arranged in 
 Books;
 will call them Book 2, Book 3, Book 4, Book 5, and Book 6. I also have a
 Book 1, which contains methodology and procedure chapters that are common
 to all LOBs.

 Within each Book 2 through 6, there are Products (Style:
 ChapterHeading)...between 8 to 30 products; depending on the LOB

 Within each Product, there are 5 specific Sections (Style: Heading1);
 standard sections by title but different content each time

 Follow so far?

 When I do a compiled book for LOB 1, from the Framemaker Book panel, I
 include Book 1 and Book 2, excluding Book 3 through 6
 When I do a compiled book for LOB 2, from the Framemaker Book panel, I
 include Book 1 and Book 3, excluding Book 2 and Book 4 through 6
 etc.

 Now...sometimes I need to output a Mini-Book. A specific LOB, with only
 specific Products, with only specific Sections, usually on the request of a
 regulatory request.

 Because of the way I have the files set up, I simply Include only what I
 need and Generate

 My total document is almost 7,000 pages. using this system, I can generate
 a specific book with from 10 to 1500 pages in less than a half hour and
 know exactly what is in the book, not more and not less..

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Re: Persist a variable to the next file

2014-12-08 Thread Writer

John, do you mean like this? 
http://blog.rockymountaintraining.com/adobe-framemaker-even-smarter-running-heads/

Nadine

  From: Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com
 To: john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com 
Cc: Frame Users framers@lists.frameusers.com 
 Sent: Monday, December 8, 2014 4:59 PM
 Subject: Re: Persist a variable to the next file

Can you copy  paste the code you have in your variable and send it to the list?

On Mon, Dec 8, 2014 at 3:55 PM, john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com wrote:

Good afternoon, guys..

I have a book that uses the variable Running H/F 1 in my footer that
picks up Chapter Title.

The hierarchy is Chapter Title, Heading 1, Heading 2, etc,.

The problem is, for the sections that follow Chapter Title that start with
Heading 1, the variable displays blank.

The question is, how to I get Chapter Title to persist until changed by the
next Chapter Title?

John X Posada
AML Syst  Ops Supt Data Analyst | US FCC  RC Systems Control  Analytics
| HSBC North America Holdings Inc
330 Madison Ave., NY NY

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Re: On the lookout for a new FM template

2014-11-21 Thread Writer

Steve, consider having a look at this book: 
http://www.amazon.com/Non-Designers-Design-Book-4th/dp/0133966151/ref=sr_1_1?s=booksie=UTF8qid=1416603600sr=1-1
Nadine

  From: Alan Houser a...@groupwellesley.com
 To: Steve Madison madis...@princecastle.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com 
framers@lists.frameusers.com 
 Sent: Friday, November 21, 2014 3:50 PM
 Subject: Re: On the lookout for a new FM template
   
 Two options come to mind --
 
 - FrameMaker 12 ships with several new sets of templates (FileNewDocument, 
Explore Templates; or HelpSamples).
 
 - Google Adobe Template Pack for a series of FrameMaker 5.5 templates 
developed (long ago) by Adobe. These may provide layout ideas.
 
 -Alan


 ---
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Consultant and Trainer, Technical Publishing
arh on Twitter
412-450-0532 On 11/21/14, 2:06 PM, Steve Madison wrote:
  
 
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Contemplating a new format for our FM12 manuals and wondering if there are any 
websites where one could check out assorted layouts? Perhaps a “template 
website” or somewhere out there on Adobe?    Thanks    Steve    
 
 
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Re: Generating web-based help

2014-11-10 Thread Writer

David, are you still using WebWorks ePublisher to generate your help system? If 
yes, have you considered outputting to WebWorks Reverb?

Nadine

 From: David Millis david.mil...@drakesoftware.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Monday, November 10, 2014 10:53 AM
Subject: Generating web-based help

Up to this point, I’ve never generated web-based help, only Microsoft HTML 
Help 1.x with Framemaker 7.2 as my source documents. The program that my help 
is used in is now being used as part of a suite of web-based programs. When I 
view the CHM file in the web-based application, I only see the books, 
chapters, and headings on the left side. I don’t see any of the actual Help 
content. That very same CHM file shows all as it should when the application 
is on my C: drive.

My questions are: 

1.Is there a setting I need to generate the help for the web-based 
application?
2.If I need to change the output, what output do I need to select that 
would require the absolute bare minimum of work on my part?
3.If I choose a different output, do the style and paragraph settings that 
are part of the HTML Help 1.x output automatically come into the new output 
type?

Thank you so much for your help in advance.

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Re: A giggle from the Adobe website

2014-10-27 Thread Writer

It's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it.

I hear the pay sucks, too.

Nadine




 From: Christenson, Pat pchristen...@ftportfolios.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 2:09 PM
Subject: A giggle from the Adobe website
 


 
I was visiting Adobe’s website earlier and noticed that when you sign up, you 
have to make a choice from the list of Job Titles. One of the choices is End 
User.
 
Really? That’s a job title? ;-)
 
Pat Christenson
Resource Coordinator
Fitzgerald Marketing and Communications
pchristen...@ftportfolios.com
 
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Re: A giggle from the Adobe website

2014-10-27 Thread Writer

To quote Joss Whedon, I have a theory...

Actually, it's Wikipedia's theory, not mine: 
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pear-shaped

Nadine




 From: Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com
To: Helen Borrie hele...@iinet.net.au 
Cc: Frame Users framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Monday, October 27, 2014 4:31 PM
Subject: Re: A giggle from the Adobe website
 


Why do things go pear-shaped? Why not rhombus-shaped, or even 
watermelon-shaped? Or artichoke--then you get an odd shaped that's all prickly, 
too.



On Mon, Oct 27, 2014 at 3:07 PM, Helen Borrie hele...@iinet.net.au wrote:

Pat Christenson wrote:

I was visiting Adobe's website earlier and noticed that when you sign up, you 
have to make a choice from the list of Job Titles. One of the choices is End 
User.

Really? That's a job title? ;-)

At 07:19 a.m. 28/10/2014, Writer wrote:

It's a dirty job, but someone's gotta do it.

I hear the pay sucks, too.

And don't we *always* get the blame when something goes pear-shaped?

Helen

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Re: A giggle from the Adobe website

2014-10-27 Thread Writer


If I confess to be a FrameMaker end user, what else might be inferred about me?

/Peter

That you use FrameMaker ends?

I mean...come on...it's not like orking cows, eh?


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Re: OT: OMG . . . Wonderful customer service from Adobe

2014-10-22 Thread Writer

As Marilla used to say: You're never safe from surprises until you are dead.

Nadine




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wrote:
I've had good luck with phone support for license issues. I think
Adobe improved a lot in handling that particular issue after they
accidentally expired all licenses for FrameMaker 10.



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Re: [Bulk] TopicAlias Restrictions

2014-09-17 Thread Writer



According to WebWorks' online help:

*Must be unique
*Must begin with an alphabetical character
*May contain alphanumeric characters
*May not contain special characters or spaces, with the exception of 
underscores (_)

http://www.webworks.com/Documentation/Reverb/index.html#page/02.Designing%20Templates%20and%20Stationery/Designing%20Stationery.3.098.htm


Nadine


 From: David Millis david.mil...@drakesoftware.com
To: 'framers@lists.frameusers.com' framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 17, 2014 9:57 AM
Subject: [Bulk] TopicAlias Restrictions
 


 
Hello Framers. I’m starting a new, and large, project using Frame 7.2. I will 
be using WebWorks to generate a CHM file once the manual has been completed. 
It looks like there will be MANY topic IDs used in this project and I’m 
thinking of using Topic IDs that are alphanumeric. I’ve used strictly numeric 
Topic IDs in the past.
 
My questions are:
1) Can I use a combination of letters and numbers in my Topic IDs?
2) Is there a length limitation in Frame 7.2 for Topic IDs? I’m thinking of 
using 8-10 characters, 12 at the very most.
 
Thank you in advance for input.
 
David Millis
 
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Re: Adobe's funny new bug database

2014-08-02 Thread Writer

=D

I wonder if we can specify what kind of bug. Like...can it be a ladybug?

Nadine

 From: Klaus Daube fr...@daube.ch
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Saturday, August 2, 2014 12:34:10 PM
Subject: Adobe's funny new bug database

Winfried Reng reported on the German FM list () the availability of a new bug 
data 
base: 
http://blogs.adobe.com/techcomm/2014/07/new-public-bugbase-for-framemaker.html
The DB itself is at https://bugbase.adobe.com/index.cfm 

Why the word funny in my subject line?

Stephan Will has entered a bug report () and the DB confirmed his entry with
Thank you, your bug has been created successfully. 

That's really new, one can create one's own bugs in Adobe's SW. That's really 
customisation...

Klaus Daube
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Re: Help with re-install on new laptop

2014-07-28 Thread Writer

If it's FM 10, check out this Adobe error report:

http://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker/kb/cant-launch-framemaker-10.html


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 From: Jenny Hecker jenny.hec...@infor.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Monday, July 28, 2014 1:13:36 PM
Subject: Help with re-install on new laptop
 

Hi, I'm trying to install my existing version of Adobe TCS 3 on a new laptop. 
Our IT group installed TCS, then I installed Mif2Go according to its 
directions. Then I tried to open FrameMaker for the first time.  I got the 
Licensing has expired message.  I ran the TCS3 update patch. I see this:  
Error loading Updater workflow.  Can anyone shed light on this?  I tried for 
almost an hour to ask the question on the Adobe forums, but it keeps kicking 
me out before I finish typing the question.  I am frustrated

Thanks,
Jenny Hecker
Infor

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Re: Mif2Go, DITA2Go, uDoc2Go: now open source

2014-07-26 Thread Writer

Thank you, Carolyn, Scott (and Jeremy).

Nadine

 From: Carolyn Stallard cstall...@omsys.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2014 2:08:05 PM
Subject: Mif2Go, DITA2Go, uDoc2Go: now open source

FrameMaker plug-in Mif2Go is available for download, at no charge:
http://mif2go.com

Join the new Mif2Go list:
https://groups.yahoo.com/group/mif2go

DITA2Go is available for download:
http://dita2go.com

Join the new DITA2Go list:
https://groups.yahoo.com/group/dita2go

uDoc2Go has not yet been released; read about uDoc and this new processor:
http://udoc2go.com

Join the new uDoc2Go list:
https://groups.yahoo.com/group/udoc2go

Omni Systems is closed.  As Jeremy Griffith wished, source code will be made 
available for all three software tools.  Scott Prentice has very kindly agreed 
to set up projects for this purpose on SourceForge.  Scott has already set up 
a 
list as a gathering place for people interested in helping with maintenance 
and 
development, so we can communicate in preparation for the move to SourceForge. 
For example, we might discuss whether to use SVN or GIT.  If you wish to help, 
please join:

https://groups.yahoo.com/group/omsys-dev

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Re: What end product should i give them? or thinking of moving help application, but to what???

2014-06-11 Thread Writer

Note: I am an MVP with WebWorks (the company that makes ePublisher).

Carrie, I recommend that you stick with ePublisher, but upgrade to the latest 
version. ePublisher now has an HTML 5 output called Reverb. Reverb output is 
designed to resize on devices of different sizes without you having to use more 
than one template. That would be a great solution for both your tablet and 
desktop/browser targets. In addition, you can generate .chm, PDF, Eclipse help, 
ePub...

The down side is that ePublisher does not support FM 7. That doesn't mean that 
it won't work; it's just not supported. You might want to consider upgrading 
FM, too.

If you have more questions about ePublisher, you can also contact me offline.

Nadine


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Sent: Wednesday, June 11, 2014 5:40:10 AM
Subject: What end product should i give them? or thinking of moving help
application, but to what???
 


As I mentioned some time ago, I am finally moving to a new computer.


I tried to install on Windows 7, but the patch for Frame 7 wouldn't install, 
so I am working with virtual XP.


I have Frame 7,
and ePublisher pro version 9 build 5737  (maybe I have a patch for that too, 
as I thought I have version 9.2)
As well as the PDF user guides which they want, I also create for them .chm 
files for one sort of application (which runs on C++)


and html files in the format of WebWorks Help 5.


These html files have a security message when you try to open them and only 
open in IE.


The company has 2 applications which run on the person's computer, and all the 
others run in a web browser integrated with IBM Cognos.


They are talking about soon making their applications available on a Tablet.


I would like to request new versions of the software, but I would also like to 
make the ROI for this.


i.e. I need to tell them that with the new software I can give them something 
better.


I think that I would like to give ePub for when they use a tablet.


For the html files, which application will be easy for me to move to, and what 
will the advantages be in the end result.


Should I still give .chm?


Or is something else used now?


I am looking for something that is truly single sourcing (Today I just press a 
button.. once everything was set up).


Any more insights etc will be helpful.







-- 
Carrie Baker
carrie...@gmail.com 
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Re: Fit or fitted?

2014-05-29 Thread Writer

It's not a verb in this case; it's a predicate adjective.

Nadine

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(framers@lists.frameusers.com) framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Thursday, May 29, 2014 11:42:49 AM
Subject: Re: Fit or fitted?

Per Betty Azar, in American English, the present, simple past, and past tense 
of the verb to fit are all fit. 
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Re: Fit or fitted?

2014-05-28 Thread Writer

Merriam-Webster seems to accept fitted.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/fitted


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Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 2:50:01 PM
Subject: Fit or fitted?
 


 
Hi,
 
We cannot undecided :
 
Typically, curves are fit/fitted to the surface.
 
Any help is appreciated.
 
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Re: Can a PDF behave like context-sensitive help?

2014-05-19 Thread Writer

I don't know if this will help, but check out this article: 
http://helpx.adobe.com/acrobat/kb/link-html-pdf-page-acrobat.html

Nadine





 From: Beverly Robinson beverly_robin...@datacard.com
To: Post Framers framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Monday, May 19, 2014 2:41:26 PM
Subject: Can a PDF behave like context-sensitive help?
 


I am using FrameMaker 12.0.2.389 and Acrobat 9.5.5 Pro Extended on a Windows 7 
64-bit computer. 
 
One of the projects I support would like to open a PDF User’s Guide from the 
user interface but, and here’s the catch, they want to open to the specific 
page of the PDF that applies to the page of the user interface. In other 
words, they want the PDF to act like context-sensitive HTML help. And I want 
it to be automatic. That is, I want to be able to insert markers in my .fm 
files that survive the PDF creation process and I want the software developers 
I work with to insert corresponding information in their code that will cause 
the PDF to open to the relevant page of the PDF. 
 
A colleague vaguely remembers doing something like this at another company but 
thinks it was all post-processing after the PDF was created and that there was 
significant software developer effort involved at each release. That would not 
be acceptable.
 
In other words, I want something equivalent to a RoboHelp mapping file. Am I 
asking for the impossible? If this is possible, please point me to the topics 
in FrameMaker or Acrobat documentation that will get me started.
Thanks for any help you can give,
Beverly
 
P.S. Please copy me on replies. I’m on digest.
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Re: How to get rid of the Console pod

2014-03-21 Thread Writer

You can call it Console Assassin.

=D

Nadine

 From: Scott Prentice s...@leximation.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Friday, March 21, 2014 12:22:36 PM
Subject: Re: How to get rid of the Console pod

Hi Yves...

You may already know this .. but .. if you leave content in the
pod, it'll keep reopening. Choose the Clear button and then
close the pod, and it should stay away until more info is
written to it. As far as I know there's no way to prevent it
from opening when something is written to it. Yes .. annoying.
(Maybe I should make a plugin to kill it?)

...scott

 On 3/21/14 7:31 AM, Yves Barbion wrote:

Hi group

FrameMaker 11 has a Console pod and a FrameMaker Console. The FrameMaker 
Console is a separate window, so that's OK. The Console pod, however, keeps 
reappearing each time I generate a FrameMaker book from a DITA map, and it does 
not really give me any relevant information.

Does anyone how to get rid of this Console pod once and for all?

Thanks.

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Re: FM 12 + RH 11 OR WebWorks ePublisher

2014-03-13 Thread Writer

I'm very biased, but I vote for FM plus WebWorks ePublisher. I've used it for 
years and I've been very happy with it.

One thing that I'm not sure of is if WebWorks ePublisher supports FM 12. That 
doesn't mean that it won't work with FM 12, I just don't think it's been 
certified with FM 12, yet.

You can run FM 12 through a trial version: 
http://www.webworks.com/Tour/Try_ePublisher/

If you want more information or if you have specific questions, you can contact 
me off the list.

Nadine



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To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Thursday, March 13, 2014 10:47:54 AM
Subject: Re: FM 12 + RH 11 OR WebWorks ePublisher
 


ePub is quite good at creating PDFs, but there are a couple of caveats: 
1. It does not work on a remote Citrix desktop.  (I suspect that it might have 
problems with others, but have no experience with them) 
2. It *really* wants a modern system with lots of RAM (8GB ) and drive space. 
 It will work on lesser machines, but you might as well go see a movie while 
you are waiting. 
  
Finally: It takes quite a while to get the stationery (templates) set up 
correctly, and there are problems with the stationery for one release not 
always working with another release (or update).   
  
Grant 

 On March 12, 2014 at 3:00 PM Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: 
 
 As long as you're evaluating alternatives, you should check out 
 WebWorks ePublisher. It can use Word, FrameMaker, and/or DITA as 
 source and the output. I haven't looked at its PDF output since my 
 source was in FrameMaker, but it kicked RoboHelp 10 to the curb as far 
 as web help. 




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Re: Frame not working this morning

2014-02-24 Thread Writer

Did you apply the license expired patch?

http://helpx.adobe.com/framemaker/kb/cant-launch-framemaker-10.html


Nadine



 From: David Spreadbury dspre...@yahoo.com
To: Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com; 'Gutierrez, Anita' 
anita.gutier...@sage.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com 
framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 12:09:05 PM
Subject: Re: Frame not working this morning
 


Anita,
To remove the computer from the equation, did you try opening the files on 
another system with Frame 10, or greater? Could your system have picked up 
some sort of virus/trojan?
If they do open on another system, clean your system.



On Monday, February 24, 2014 11:01 AM, Rick Quatro r...@rickquatro.com wrote:
 
Hi Anita,
 
Have you quit and restarted FrameMaker? This usually gets rid of the blank 
screen.
 
Rick
 
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-366-4017
r...@frameexpert.com
 
 
 
From:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Gutierrez, Anita
Sent: Monday, February 24, 2014 11:50 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Frame not working this morning
 
Hi Framers,
 
This is a new one for me.  Frame 10.0.2.419, Windows 7. Frame was functioning 
normally on Friday.  (I get the digest so please copy me on any answers.)
 
My computer seems to have spontaneously rebooted over the weekend. 
First thing this morning, I opened a *.book file, and then tried to open an 
*.fm file from the book.  Frame crashed (Internal error etc.).  I tested every 
file in the book and all crashed.
 
I then opened a different *.book file and tried again—all files crashed.
 
Next, I opened a *.fm file direcly from Windows Explorer (without first 
opening the book). The document “opened” showing a big white blank—no text, 
frames, borders, symbols, nothing.  Just white.  
 
When I select File  Close, the “do you want to save” window opens and 
suddenly I can see my document in the background—the content is all there like 
it was Friday.  However, I can’t edit the content since the save dialog is 
open. If I click Cancel in the save window, the doc window goes back to white. 
 Clicking Yes or No in the save window has no effect—next time I open it I see 
the same thing. This is true no matter how I open the file (from its book, 
from Windows Explorere, or File  Open).
 
With the document open and displaying only white, I can insert a 
cross-reference or type (although I’m doing this blind, so it’s not a viable 
workaround).  When I select File  Close, again I can see the changes 
reflected in the doc. Clicking Cancel again takes me back to white. 
 
I tried saving the file as a .mif. In Notepad, it looks like every other 
.mif—but in Frame, it looks the same as the .fm—blank window.
 
The good (or less bad) news is that ever since I opened the .fm files directly 
from Windows Explorer this morning, I can now open them from the *.book 
context and Frame doesn’t crash.  It just shows the blank windows.
 
I’ve tried files from 4 different books so far and  all get the same results.  
 
Any tips are most appreciated
Anita
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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Re: Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-21 Thread Writer

By structured, do you mean DITA or some other type of structured content?

Nadine

 
I’ve got documentation in structured FrameMaker 10 and Mif2Go. I’ve produced 
Eclipse Help routinely in the past, but for the first time, we’re creating a 
user interface in Visual Studio. We want to integrate the Help so that a 
button or menu item in the UI will open a Help window, complete with a table 
of contents and search facility. An index would be nice, and context-sensitive 
links to the documentation would be nice, but are lower priority.
 
The software is intended for Windows operating systems only, and it’s supposed 
to be a standalone installation—no internet or network required.
 
We are considering Microsoft HTML Help, but have a few concerns because it 
seems somewhat dated and lacking in active development on Microsoft’s part. We 
are also considering standalone Eclipse Help because it’s being maintained and 
we can leverage our previous experience, but we are somewhat daunted by its 
size and the fact that we couldn’t find anyone using it when they aren’t 
producing an Eclipse-based product. WebHelp requires us to buy RoboHelp, which 
isn’t out of the question, but I’m not sure we can justify the cost because we 
don’t need it to run cross-platform nor from a server, and our developer is a 
bit concerned about the uncompiled set of output files being too easy for 
customers to mess with. Could anyone suggest any other Help formats we should 
look at? Can anyone endorse a Help format or tell us which ones we should 
avoid? Can anyone (besides Jeremy J) tell me about their experience with 
OmniHelp?
 
Fei Min Lorente
Senior Technical Communicator
Medical and Wireless Division
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+1 519-831-4931 | mobile
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Choosing a Help Format

2013-11-21 Thread Writer

By "structured", do you mean DITA or some other type of structured content?

Nadine

> 
>I?ve got documentation in structured FrameMaker 10 and Mif2Go. I?ve produced 
>Eclipse Help routinely in the past, but for the first time, we?re creating a 
>user interface in Visual Studio. We want to integrate the Help so that a 
>button or menu item in the UI will open a Help window, complete with a table 
>of contents and search facility. An index would be nice, and context-sensitive 
>links to the documentation would be nice, but are lower priority.
>?
>The software is intended for Windows operating systems only, and it?s supposed 
>to be a standalone installation?no internet or network required.
>?
>We are considering Microsoft HTML Help, but have a few concerns because it 
>seems somewhat dated and lacking in active development on Microsoft?s part. We 
>are also considering standalone Eclipse Help because it?s being maintained and 
>we can leverage our previous experience, but we are somewhat daunted by its 
>size and the fact that we couldn?t find anyone using it when they aren?t 
>producing an Eclipse-based product. WebHelp requires us to buy RoboHelp, which 
>isn?t out of the question, but I?m not sure we can justify the cost because we 
>don?t need it to run cross-platform nor from a server, and our developer is a 
>bit concerned about the uncompiled set of output files being too easy for 
>customers to mess with. Could anyone suggest any other Help formats we should 
>look at? Can anyone endorse a Help format or tell us which ones we should 
>avoid? Can anyone (besides Jeremy J) tell me about their experience with 
>OmniHelp?
>?
>Fei Min Lorente
>Senior Technical Communicator
>Medical and Wireless Division
>feimin.lorente at onsemi.com
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>+1 519-831-4931 | mobile
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Re: So Long and Thanks for the Fish -- Migrating from FrameMaker to Flare

2013-10-28 Thread Writer

Joseph:

I understand this, but I'm sorry to see you go.

Please include me on your mailing list of the explanations.

Nadine


 From: Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net
To: Joseph Lorenzini jalo...@gmail.com; FrameMaker Forum 
framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 2:22:59 PM
Subject: RE: So Long and Thanks for the Fish -- Migrating fromFrameMaker 
to Flare
 


Hi, Joseph.
 
You are not the only one who is abandoning FrameMaker … if you look at my 
posts in the past months, I have done the same although I have been using it 
since 1988 off and on. I am still on the list for old times sake, though. J
 
Please do send me your detailed reasons in an off-list e-mail – would like to 
know your decision trigger! For me, it was the (a) recent over-pricing for 
some version upgrades that should have been done as free bug fixes, (b) the 
Adobe trend (albeit not yet announced for FrameMaker) to SAAS as the only 
licensing mechanism, and (c) their abandonment of small users (i.e., number of 
licenses) from their multi-year update licensing system.
 
Today, all my new documents are no longer in FrameMaker. I am only using it 
for maintaining and changing old documents, and if the change is large enough, 
I move it off FrameMaker. That takes a couple of days – even for the large 
documents – and then I am fine for the future! In time, all my old documents 
will be moved from FrameMaker.
 
However, I have not chosen Flare as my platform, although it looks quite 
capable. Switching to it is expensive (of course, if they made me a $199 
one-time offer to switch from FrameMaker to Flare, I would do it! J)
 
For now, for my needs (which may not apply to everybody), a combination of 
Word 2013 for short documents (less than 10 to 20 pages), and LaTex (for large 
multi-hundred page specifications) is proving quite workable. Not perfect, and 
not as flexible as FrameMaker, but the costly “upgrades” of FrameMaker is not 
acceptable, and the trend to equally costly SAAS is a deal-breaker.
 
BTW, LaTeX in particular allows me to achieve *complete* look-and-feel 
consistency in my specifications – formatting is separate from text entry – 
and I value that highly. It was my reason for selecting FrameMaker over Word 
about 12 years ago for my current company.
 
Regards, and good luck!
 
Z
 
From:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lorenzini
Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 10:13 AM
To: FrameMaker Forum; tcs-us...@googlegroups.com
Subject: So Long and Thanks for the Fish -- Migrating from FrameMaker to Flare
 
Hi all,
 
I have used FrameMaker for over 5 years. I have used it to produce thousands 
of pages of documentation. And I honestly thought that FM was a great 
tool...for a time. Plus, the community was super helpful. 
 
So its with some regret that I am telling you that I am leaving this community 
and the TCS suite. I am adopting Flare as a replacement. Please note I am no 
evangelist of Flare nor do I think that there's One Right Tool. FrameMaker can 
be a great solution for some and if works for you then great. The reasons why 
I made this choice were driven by a specific business and use case
 
There are many reasons for this but that would cause this post to grow quite 
large and I didn't want to flood this community with a gigantic post about why 
I am not using its tool anymore.
 
That said, my experience of why and how i migrated may be of interest to 
others in this forum. If you'd like a detailed explanation and are curious to 
learn more, I would be happy to share those details with you offline. Feel 
free to email me.
 
Sincerely,
Joseph Lorenzini

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So Long and Thanks for the Fish -- Migrating from FrameMaker to Flare

2013-10-28 Thread Writer

Joseph:

I understand this, but I'm sorry to see you go.

Please include me on your mailing list of the explanations.

Nadine

>
> From: "Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)"  aeris.net>
>To: Joseph Lorenzini ; FrameMaker Forum lists.frameusers.com> 
>Sent: Monday, October 28, 2013 2:22:59 PM
>Subject: RE: So Long and Thanks for the Fish -- Migrating fromFrameMaker 
>to Flare
> 
>
>
>Hi, Joseph.
>?
>You are not the only one who is abandoning FrameMaker ? if you look at my 
>posts in the past months, I have done the same although I have been using it 
>since 1988 off and on. I am still on the list for old times sake, though. J
>?
>Please do send me your detailed reasons in an off-list e-mail ? would like to 
>know your decision trigger! For me, it was the (a) recent over-pricing for 
>some version upgrades that should have been done as free bug fixes, (b) the 
>Adobe trend (albeit not yet announced for FrameMaker) to SAAS as the only 
>licensing mechanism, and (c) their abandonment of small users (i.e., number of 
>licenses) from their multi-year update licensing system.
>?
>Today, all my new documents are no longer in FrameMaker. I am only using it 
>for maintaining and changing old documents, and if the change is large enough, 
>I move it off FrameMaker. That takes a couple of days ? even for the large 
>documents ? and then I am fine for the future! In time, all my old documents 
>will be moved from FrameMaker.
>?
>However, I have not chosen Flare as my platform, although it looks quite 
>capable. Switching to it is expensive (of course, if they made me a $199 
>one-time offer to switch from FrameMaker to Flare, I would do it! J)
>?
>For now, for my needs (which may not apply to everybody), a combination of 
>Word 2013 for short documents (less than 10 to 20 pages), and LaTex (for large 
>multi-hundred page specifications) is proving quite workable. Not perfect, and 
>not as flexible as FrameMaker, but the costly ?upgrades? of FrameMaker is not 
>acceptable, and the trend to equally costly SAAS is a deal-breaker.
>?
>BTW, LaTeX in particular allows me to achieve *complete* look-and-feel 
>consistency in my specifications ? formatting is separate from text entry ? 
>and I value that highly. It was my reason for selecting FrameMaker over Word 
>about 12 years ago for my current company.
>?
>Regards, and good luck!
>?
>Z
>?
>From:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
>lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Joseph Lorenzini
>Sent: Saturday, October 26, 2013 10:13 AM
>To: FrameMaker Forum; TCS-Users at googlegroups.com
>Subject: So Long and Thanks for the Fish -- Migrating from FrameMaker to Flare
>?
>Hi all,
>?
>I have used FrameMaker for over 5 years. I have used it to produce thousands 
>of pages of documentation. And I honestly thought that FM was a great 
>tool...for a time. Plus, the community was super helpful.?
>?
>So its with some regret that I am telling you that I am leaving this community 
>and the TCS suite. I am adopting Flare as a replacement. Please note I am no 
>evangelist of Flare nor do I think that there's One Right Tool. FrameMaker can 
>be a great solution for some and if works for you then great. The reasons why 
>I made this choice were driven by a specific business and use case
>?
>There are many reasons for this but that would cause this post to grow quite 
>large and I didn't want to flood this community with a gigantic post about why 
>I am not using its tool anymore.
>?
>That said, my experience of why and how i migrated may be of interest to 
>others in this forum. If you'd like a detailed explanation and are curious to 
>learn more, I would be happy to share those details with you offline. Feel 
>free to email me.
>?
>Sincerely,
>Joseph Lorenzini

Re: Type 1 Helvetica, Internet Explorer, and Windows 7 Incompatible

2013-10-09 Thread Writer

Thank you for sharing your work, Mike.

Nadine

On Wed, 10/9/13, Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com wrote:

 Subject: Type 1 Helvetica, Internet Explorer, and Windows 7 Incompatible
 To: Frame Users framers@lists.FrameUsers.com
 Received: Wednesday, October 9, 2013, 2:24 PM

 I thought I might post a solution to
 a problem that I encountered recently, since it involves the
 Type 1 Helvetica font, and many of us have installed it. I
 was having major problems with Internet Explorer (10) not
 being able to load many websites. It would load them
 partially, not at all, or loaded links would not work.

 This drove me nuts for a while as I tried to figure out if I
 had a broken flash player or something else going on. I
 finally stumbled upon the cause and solution online.
 Apparently, Microsoft changed its font rendering engine in
 IE 9. That in combination with Windows 7 has done something
 to break the ability of IE to render websites that have
 Helvetica specified as a font.

 So if you see this problem yourself, the solution is to
 uninstall Type 1 Helvetica. Since many of us have PostScript
 printers, we have installed this font on our computers. The
 recommendation is to replace with a TrueType or OpenType
 version instead. The cost of OTF Helvetica is ridiculous,
 though. So hello Arial.

 If you create websites, you may want to leave Type 1 fonts
 out of your code or your IE visitors may not be able to see
 your site!

 Here's a link to a page describing the problem:

http://bobbyjoneswebdesign.blogspot.com/2011/12/internet-explorer-9-type-1-font-bug.html

 Mike Wickham

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Type 1 Helvetica, Internet Explorer, and Windows 7 Incompatible

2013-10-09 Thread Writer

Thank you for sharing your work, Mike.

Nadine

On Wed, 10/9/13, Mike Wickham  wrote:

 Subject: Type 1 Helvetica, Internet Explorer, and Windows 7 Incompatible
 To: "Frame Users" 
 Received: Wednesday, October 9, 2013, 2:24 PM

 I thought I might post a solution to
 a problem that I encountered recently, since it involves the
 Type 1 Helvetica font, and many of us have installed it. I
 was having major problems with Internet Explorer (10) not
 being able to load many websites. It would load them
 partially, not at all, or loaded links would not work.

 This drove me nuts for a while as I tried to figure out if I
 had a broken flash player or something else going on. I
 finally stumbled upon the cause and solution online.
 Apparently, Microsoft changed its font rendering engine in
 IE 9. That in combination with Windows 7 has done something
 to break the ability of IE to render websites that have
 Helvetica specified as a font.

 So if you see this problem yourself, the solution is to
 uninstall Type 1 Helvetica. Since many of us have PostScript
 printers, we have installed this font on our computers. The
 recommendation is to replace with a TrueType or OpenType
 version instead. The cost of OTF Helvetica is ridiculous,
 though. So hello Arial.

 If you create websites, you may want to leave Type 1 fonts
 out of your code or your IE visitors may not be able to see
 your site!

 Here's a link to a page describing the problem:

http://bobbyjoneswebdesign.blogspot.com/2011/12/internet-explorer-9-type-1-font-bug.html

 Mike Wickham

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Re: Word and Frame comparisons

2013-09-25 Thread Writer

Lock up templates. Restrict access to source files.

However, having said that, I'm reminded of this quote:

“You can’t make anything idiot proof because idiots are so ingenious.”

Nadine


 From: Corinne Kenney skiken...@yahoo.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 2:25:58 PM
Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons
 


You are probably right. And when people say everybody knows Word, I tend to 
give this reply:
 
The good thing about Word is that you can just open it up and start typing.
The bad thing about Word is that -- you can just open it up and start typing.
 
Corinne Kenney
Sr. Technical Editor/Writer
Raytheon Company


From: Ken Poshedly poshe...@bellsouth.net
To: Alastair Dent alastair.d...@imgtec.com; Maxwell Hoffmann 
mhoff...@adobe.com; Shmuel Wolfson shmue...@gmail.com; Theresa de Valence 
t...@bstw.com 
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 7:04 AM
Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons



It's been my own experience that requests (actually directives) for using 
only Word came from the Marketing Dept and/or others who didn't believe that 
Tech Pubs could do the job and demanded the ability to go in and correct 
things as they saw fit. And because everybody knows Word, well, that was 
that. (I remember looking at some of their corrections and I'm glad not to 
be there and take the hate calls from totally confused customers.)





From: Alastair Dent alastair.d...@imgtec.com
To: Maxwell Hoffmann mhoff...@adobe.com; Shmuel Wolfson 
shmue...@gmail.com; Theresa de Valence t...@bstw.com 
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 5:17 AM
Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons


This is 'sort of' possible in Word.

Word cascades style definitions. So you should define all your heading styles 
based on a style called, say, 'Heading Base'.  Then you only alter the design 
as required for each style. If all your headings use the same font family, 
then it is possible to change the font family by altering the 'Heading Base' 
style. However, if one of your headings uses a different font family from 
'Heading Base', the new 'Heading Base' font family won't cascade to that 
heading.

The same applies to all other definitions in the paragraph style.

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Maxwell Hoffmann
Sent: 19 September 2013 18:19
To: Shmuel Wolfson; Theresa de Valence
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons

I can think of at least one thing FrameMaker can do with paragraph updates 
that I don't think is possible in Word; you can globally update multiple 
paragraph styles in one step:

(1) Create Heading1 Heading 2 Heading3 next to each other
(2) Drag select through these 3 paragraphs, and Control-M to open Paragraph 
Designers
(3) Go to font level. Notice that there is no name displayed for the 
paragraph style and that some of the values are set to As Is (probably font 
size)
(4) Change the color to Blue and click on Update All
(5)
FrameMaker will ask you if you'd like to apply only font changes to paragraphs 
in selected area
(6) Click OK, and you have just changed the catalog definition for 3 
paragraphs in one step.

You can see a brief video demo of this at: http://adobe.ly/18ddZqI



Maxwell Hoffmann |  Product  Evangelist  |  Adobe  |  p. 503.336.5952  |  c. 
503.805.3719  |  mhoff...@adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann-  
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-Original
Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:10 AM
To: Theresa de Valence
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons

Here's a nice solution for that:
http://www.elharo.com/blog/word/2005/12/28/word-tip-1-reapplying-styles/



On 17-Sep-13 6:04 PM, Theresa de Valence wrote:
 Hi, this is possibly not the right place to ask this question, but ... 
 I have a lot
of experience with Frame and very little experience with 
 MS Word.

 In Frame I can overwrite all paragraph format overrides with a click.

 Can this be done in Word?

 Thanks,
 Theresa
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Word and Frame comparisons

2013-09-25 Thread Writer

Lock up templates. Restrict access to source files.

However, having said that, I'm reminded of this quote:

?You can?t make anything idiot proof because idiots are so ingenious.?

Nadine

>
> From: Corinne Kenney 
>To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com"  
>Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 2:25:58 PM
>Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons
> 
>
>
>You are probably right. And when people say "everybody knows Word," I tend to 
>give this reply:
>?
>The "good" thing about Word is that you can just open it up and start typing.
>The bad thing about Word is that -- you can just open it up and start typing.
>?
>Corinne Kenney
>Sr. Technical Editor/Writer
>Raytheon Company
>
>
>From: Ken Poshedly 
>To: Alastair Dent ; Maxwell Hoffmann adobe.com>; Shmuel Wolfson ; Theresa de Valence at bstw.com> 
>Cc: "framers at lists.frameusers.com"  
>Sent: Wednesday, September 25, 2013 7:04 AM
>Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons
>
>
>
>It's been my own experience that "requests" (actually "directives") for using 
>only Word came from the Marketing Dept and/or others who didn't believe that 
>Tech Pubs could do the job and demanded the ability to go in and "correct 
>things" as they saw fit. And because "everybody knows Word", well, that was 
>that. (I remember looking at some of their "corrections" and I'm glad not to 
>be there and take the "hate calls" from totally confused customers.)
>
>
>
>
>
>From: Alastair Dent 
>>To: Maxwell Hoffmann ; Shmuel Wolfson >gmail.com>; Theresa de Valence  
>>Cc: "framers at lists.frameusers.com"  
>>Sent: Monday, September 23, 2013 5:17 AM
>>Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons
>>
>>
>>This is 'sort of' possible in Word.
>>
>>Word cascades style definitions. So you should define all your heading styles 
>>based on a style called, say, 'Heading Base'.? Then you only alter the design 
>>as required for each style. If all your headings use the same font family, 
>>then it is possible to change the font family by altering the 'Heading Base' 
>>style. However, if one of your headings uses a different font family from 
>>'Heading Base', the new 'Heading Base' font family won't cascade to that 
>>heading.
>>
>>The same applies to all other definitions in the paragraph style.
>>
>>-Original Message-
>>From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
>>lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Maxwell Hoffmann
>>Sent: 19 September 2013 18:19
>>To: Shmuel Wolfson; Theresa de Valence
>>Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>>Subject: RE: Word and Frame comparisons
>>
>>I can think of at least one thing FrameMaker can do with paragraph updates 
>>that I don't think is possible in Word; you can globally update multiple 
>>paragraph styles in one step:
>>
>>(1) Create "Heading1" "Heading 2" "Heading3" next to each other
>>(2) Drag select through these 3 paragraphs, and Control-M to open Paragraph 
>>Designers
>>(3) Go to font level. Notice that there is no name displayed for the 
>>paragraph style and that some of the values are set to "As Is" (probably font 
>>size)
>>(4) Change the color to Blue and click on Update All
>>(5)
FrameMaker will ask you if you'd like to apply only font changes to paragraphs 
in selected area
>>(6) Click OK, and you have just changed the catalog definition for 3 
>>paragraphs in one step.
>>
>>You can see a brief video demo of this at: http://adobe.ly/18ddZqI
>>
>>
>>
>>Maxwell Hoffmann |? Product? Evangelist? |? Adobe? |? p. 503.336.5952? |? c. 
>>503.805.3719? |? mhoffman at adobe.com http://twitter.com/maxwellhoffmann-? 
>>http://www.linkedin.com/in/maxwellhoffmann%C2%A0blogs.adobe.com/techcomm
>>Upcoming webinars http://adobe.ly/Pbz6xI? ? Recorded webinars: 
>>http://adobe.ly/Pbdp0J
>>
>>
>>-Original
Message-
>>From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
>>lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel Wolfson
>>Sent: Wednesday, September 18, 2013 2:10 AM
>>To: Theresa de Valence
>>Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>>Subject: Re: Word and Frame comparisons
>>
>>Here's a nice solution for that:
>>http://www.elharo.com/blog/word/2005/12/28/word-tip-1-reapplying-styles/
>>
>>
>>
>>On 17-Sep-13 6:04 PM, Theresa de Valence wrote:
>>> Hi, this is possibly not the right place to ask this question, but ... 
>>> I have a lot
of experience with Frame and very little experience with 
>>> MS Word.
>>>
>>> In Frame I can overwrite all paragraph format overrides with a click.
>>>
>>> Can this be done in Word?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Theresa
>>___

Re: Incorporating an existing PDF into an FM-generated PDF

2013-08-29 Thread Writer

You should be able to do part of that with Acrobat. By page numbering, do you 
mean the printed page number or the page number in the box at the top of the 
Reader frame? If the later, you should be able to do that with Acrobat, too.

Nadine

 From: LGLists li...@techcomplus.com
To: 'Post Framers' framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:31:37 PM
Subject: Incorporating an existing PDF into an FM-generated PDF

FM 
10
Acrobat X 
Pro
Win 
7

I need to 
incorporate an existing and lengthy PDF file into the PDF file that 
I'll generate from the FM content I've written. 

At least for the 
foreseeable future, it won't be possible to incorporate the source content of 
the existing PDF into FM to be able to 
generate a single PDF file.

Is it 
possible to incorporate that existing PDF , as is, into the PDF that 
I'll generate, so that the TOC, page numbering, 
etc. will all be there for both PDFs? If 
yes, how?

If not, how 
would I create a link to that PDF in 
FM that will work from the generated PDF?I think I've 
done it before, but it's been a long, long 
time.

Thanks in 
advance!

~
Linda G. 
Gallagher
STC Fellow
TechCom Plus, LLC - 
celebrating 20 years!
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com 
303-450-9076 or 
800-500-3144
Tutorials, show me demos, user guides, help, FrameMaker and 
WebWorks ePublisher 
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Incorporating an existing PDF into an FM-generated PDF

2013-08-29 Thread Writer

You should be able to do part of that with Acrobat. By page numbering, do you 
mean the printed page number or the page number in the box at the top of the 
Reader frame? If the later, you should be able to do that with Acrobat, too.

Nadine

 From: LGLists 
To: 'Post Framers'  
Sent: Wednesday, August 28, 2013 1:31:37 PM
Subject: Incorporating an existing PDF into an FM-generated PDF

FM 
10
Acrobat X 
Pro
Win 
7
?
I need to 
incorporate an existing and lengthy?PDF file into the?PDF file that 
I'll generate from the FM content I've written. 
?
At least for the 
foreseeable future, it won't be possible to incorporate the source content of 
the existing PDF into FM to be able to 
generate a single PDF file.
?
Is it 
possible to incorporate that existing PDF , as is, into the?PDF that 
I'll generate, so that the TOC, page numbering, 
etc. will all be there for both PDFs? If 
yes, how?
?
If not, how 
would I create a link to that?PDF in 
FM that will work from the generated?PDF?I think I've 
done it before, but it's been a long, long 
time.
?
?
Thanks in 
advance!
?
~
Linda G. 
Gallagher
STC Fellow
TechCom Plus, LLC - 
celebrating 20 years!
lindag at techcomplus dot com
www.techcomplus.com 
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Re: Proof reading the Adobe FrameMaker 11 'documentation'?

2013-08-16 Thread Writer

It's kind of surreal.

Nadine

 From: Alan Litchfield a...@alphabyte.co.nz
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 12:24:42 PM
Subject: Re: Proof reading the Adobe FrameMaker 11 'documentation'?

haha, I like that.

On 16/08/13 10:05 PM, Simon BUCH wrote:

* FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf file Known Issues?
    http://adobe.com/go/fm_known_issues_en

Adobe special Error404 page again.
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Proof reading the Adobe FrameMaker 11 'documentation'?

2013-08-16 Thread Writer

It's kind of surreal.

Nadine

>
> From: Alan Litchfield 
>To: framers at lists.frameusers.com 
>Sent: Friday, August 16, 2013 12:24:42 PM
>Subject: Re: Proof reading the Adobe FrameMaker 11 'documentation'?
> 
>
>
>haha, I like that.
>
>
>On 16/08/13 10:05 PM, Simon BUCH wrote:
>
>
>>
>>* "FrameMaker 11 - Read me.pdf" file "Known Issues"?
>>??? http://adobe.com/go/fm_known_issues_en
>>
>>Adobe special Error404 page again.

Re: Conrefs... Shake out white, turn BLUE!

2013-07-31 Thread Writer

This is from memory, but I think that FM treats conrefs as conditional text. 
Look at the conditional text values in the template file.

Nadine

A reference to an old TV commercial for powdered cleanser.  You shake out 
white powder and it turns blue when it gets wet.  Conclusion?  This is the 
cleanser you should buy!

I implemented conrefs in my DITA, and FrameMaker imports them wonderfully.  
Except they TURN BLUE!  This makes about as much sense as the above 
commercial.  Why would I EVER want my conrefs to be a different color?!?!?  I 
tried looking through the EDD, and I only find one instance of blue...  It 
has nothing to do with conrefs.  Does anybody know how Maker is performing 
this nonsensical magic?  Must I kill a unicorn to end it?

Thanks  cud
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Conrefs... Shake out white, turn BLUE!

2013-07-31 Thread Writer

This is from memory, but I think that FM treats conrefs as conditional text. 
Look at the conditional text values in the template file.

Nadine

>A reference to an old TV commercial for powdered cleanser.? You shake out 
>white powder and it turns blue when it gets wet.? Conclusion?? This is the 
>cleanser you should buy!
>
>I implemented conrefs in my DITA, and FrameMaker imports them wonderfully.? 
>Except they TURN BLUE!? This makes about as much sense as the above 
>commercial.? Why would I EVER want my conrefs to be a different color?!?!?? I 
>tried looking through the EDD, and I only find one instance of "blue"...? It 
>has nothing to do with conrefs.? Does anybody know how Maker is performing 
>this nonsensical magic?? Must I kill a unicorn to end it?
>
>Thanks? cud

Re: OT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

2013-07-18 Thread Writer

And on the other side of the fence...

I find it an interesting discussion. And I prefer to have it on this list since 
I don't participate in many other lists.

Sorry, Matt, my vote is for keep it online.

Nadine


Bandwidth is measured also by the number of emails one can reasonably read 
(and respond to) in a given length of time.


I can't be the only person who is tired of reading about reactions to the CS 
licensing model on this FrameMaker forum…


I don't know anything about Adobe's plans.


Everyone's time is worth (and costs) something…the time required to 
participate and/or read these discussions thus have a cost, so I'm asking... 
perhaps those with a keen interest in the topic could take the discussion of 
it offline or to a CS-oriented list until Adobe indicates this will affect 
FrameMaker? 


I'm happy to discuss this off-list, but as a courtesy, will be avoiding this 
thread (even more) going forward.


-Matt



On Jul 17, 2013, at 11:49 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) 
syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote:

In this day and age, is Internet “bandwidth” use for text e-mails really an 
issue? J
 
Plus, are you saying that you know/believe that FrameMaker is not going to be 
released as a cloud-based license model soon? Love to hear the news.
 
And, in my opinion, btw, my discussion (feel free to call it whining perhaps? 
:)) on license cost/models of FrameMaker is fair game for this mailing list …
 
Z
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OT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!: Adobe 'Creative Cloud' (again)

2013-07-18 Thread Writer

And on the other side of the fence...

I find it an interesting discussion. And I prefer to have it on this list since 
I don't participate in many other lists.

Sorry, Matt, my vote is for keep it online.

Nadine

>
>Bandwidth is measured also by the number of emails one can reasonably read 
>(and respond to) in a given length of time.
>
>
>I can't be the only person who is tired of reading about reactions to the CS 
>licensing model on this FrameMaker forum?
>
>
>I don't know anything about Adobe's plans.
>
>
>Everyone's time is worth (and costs) something?the time required to 
>participate and/or read these discussions thus have a cost, so I'm 
>asking...?perhaps?those with a keen interest in the topic could take the 
>discussion of it offline or to a CS-oriented list until Adobe indicates this 
>will affect FrameMaker??
>
>
>I'm happy to discuss this off-list, but as a courtesy, will be avoiding this 
>thread (even more) going forward.
>
>
>-Matt
>
>
>
>On Jul 17, 2013, at 11:49 PM, "Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net)" 
> wrote:
>
>In this day and age, is Internet ?bandwidth? use for text e-mails really an 
>issue??J
>>?
>>Plus, are you saying that you know/believe that FrameMaker is not going to be 
>>released as a cloud-based license model soon? Love to hear the news.
>>?
>>And, in my opinion, btw, my discussion (feel free to call it whining perhaps? 
>>:)) on license cost/models of FrameMaker is fair game for this mailing list ?
>>?
>>Z

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-10 Thread Writer

What about directly from Comtech Services? 
http://comtech-serv.com//index.php?main_page=product_infocPath=28_3products_id=10

Nadine

- Original Message -
 From: Alan T Litchfield a...@alphabyte.co.nz
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Cc: 
 Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 11:31:49 PM
 Subject: Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

 Unfortunately, that book cannot be sold internationally by Amazon. :(

 Alan

 On 10/07/13 2:19 PM, Writer wrote:
  Agreed. That has been my go to book since I started using DITA.

  Nadine

  This is a really good book for getting experience in using DITA 1.2. I 
 found that the sample application that is developed was very straightforward 
 to 
 implement in FrameMaker. It won't teach you everything you need to know 
 about DITA, but all the basics are there.

 http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-DITA-Second-Edition-Architecture/dp/0977863433

  An Arbortext specific version of this book also exists. (The one above 
 is not FM specific, but it really doesn't need to be.)

  Craig

 -- 
 AlphaByte
 PO Box 1941, Auckland
 http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
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DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-10 Thread Writer

What about directly from Comtech 
Services??http://comtech-serv.com//index.php?main_page=product_info=28_3_id=10

Nadine


- Original Message -
> From: Alan T Litchfield 
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Cc: 
> Sent: Tuesday, July 9, 2013 11:31:49 PM
> Subject: Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema
> 
> Unfortunately, that book cannot be sold internationally by Amazon. :(
> 
> Alan
> 
> On 10/07/13 2:19 PM, Writer wrote:
>>  Agreed. That has been my go to book since I started using DITA.
>> 
>>  Nadine
>> 
>>> 
>>>  This is a really good book for getting experience in using DITA 1.2. I 
> found that the sample application that is developed was very straightforward 
> to 
> implement in FrameMaker. It won't teach you everything you need to know 
> about DITA, but all the basics are there.
>>> 
>>> 
> http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-DITA-Second-Edition-Architecture/dp/0977863433
>>> 
>>>  An Arbortext specific version of this book also exists. (The one above 
> is not FM specific, but it really doesn't need to be.)
>>> 
>>>  Craig
>> 
> 
> -- 
> AlphaByte
> PO Box 1941, Auckland
> http://www.alphabyte.co.nz

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Writer

Agreed. That has been my go to book since I started using DITA.

Nadine


This is a really good book for getting experience in using DITA 1.2. I found 
that the sample application that is developed was very straightforward to 
implement in FrameMaker. It won't teach you everything you need to know about 
DITA, but all the basics are there.
 
http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-DITA-Second-Edition-Architecture/dp/0977863433
 
An Arbortext specific version of this book also exists. (The one above is not 
FM specific, but it really doesn't need to be.)  
 
Craig

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DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-09 Thread Writer

Agreed. That has been my go to book since I started using DITA.

Nadine

>
>This is a really good book for getting experience in using DITA 1.2. I found 
>that the sample application that is developed was very straightforward to 
>implement in FrameMaker. It won't teach you everything you need to know about 
>DITA, but all the basics are there.
>?
>http://www.amazon.com/Introduction-DITA-Second-Edition-Architecture/dp/0977863433
>?
>An Arbortext specific version of this book also exists. (The one above is not 
>FM specific, but it really doesn't need to be.) ?
>?
>Craig

Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Writer

And unless you're very clever, it's easy to paint yourself into a corner with 
an in-house system. It might be simple to develop something for what your 
needs are now, but you neglect to make it open-ended or scalable for whatever 
changes you need to make in the future.

And then there's portability...

Nadine


 From: Alan Houser a...@groupwellesley.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Monday, July 8, 2013 6:50:36 PM
Subject: Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema
 


I gotta generally agree with Matt. Occasionally I run into an information 
modeling project that I can knock off in an afternoon, but that's pretty rare. 
Remember that you will not only need to model block content (topics, 
headings, paragraphs, lists, etc.), but also tables, cross-references, images, 
etc. The latter set can be a bit tricky. Plus, oh, your metadata.

With DITA or DocBook, you also get a publishing framework. Also
  usually non-trivial to create from scratch, especially if you are
  publishing to multiple output formats, using filtering, content
  re-use, etc.

I'll mention with some regret that FrameMaker's DocBook support is
  pretty poor. I've never figured out why...the typical use cases
  for both (books, PDF) line up very well. It may be a
  chicken-and-egg issue...I suspect more people would use DocBook if
  FrameMaker provided better DocBook support.

-Alan

On 7/8/13 6:31 PM, Matt Sullivan wrote:

A list of what you'll save using DITA or DocBook rather than creating your own 
schema: 
1. Time
2. Money


(Hey, someone had to say it…)

-Matt
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DITA/docbook vs your own schema

2013-07-08 Thread Writer

And unless you're very clever, it's easy to paint yourself into a corner with 
an in-house system.?It might be "simple" to develop something for what your 
needs are now, but you neglect to make it open-ended or scalable for whatever 
changes you need to make in the future.

And then there's portability...

Nadine

>
> From: Alan Houser 
>To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com"  
>Sent: Monday, July 8, 2013 6:50:36 PM
>Subject: Re: DITA/docbook vs your own schema
> 
>
>
>I gotta generally agree with Matt. Occasionally I run into an information 
>modeling project that I can knock off in an afternoon, but that's pretty rare. 
>Remember that you will not only need to model "block" content (topics, 
>headings, paragraphs, lists, etc.), but also tables, cross-references, images, 
>etc. The latter set can be a bit tricky. Plus, oh, your metadata.
>
>With DITA or DocBook, you also get a publishing framework. Also
??usually non-trivial to create from scratch, especially if you are
??publishing to multiple output formats, using filtering, content
??re-use, etc.
>
>I'll mention with some regret that FrameMaker's DocBook support is
??pretty poor. I've never figured out why...the "typical" use cases
??for both (books, PDF) line up very well. It may be a
??chicken-and-egg issue...I suspect more people would use DocBook if
??FrameMaker provided better DocBook support.
>
>-Alan
>
>On 7/8/13 6:31 PM, Matt Sullivan wrote:
>
>A list of what you'll save using DITA or DocBook rather than creating your own 
>schema: 
>>1. Time
>>2. Money
>>
>>
>>(Hey, someone had to say it?)
>>
>>-Matt

Re: Follow up on a few items

2013-07-07 Thread Writer

Huh? Did we miss something?

*blink*

Nadine

I really had a good time last evening and I just wanted to say thank you again
for the thoughtful gifts. I just hope you weren't all bored to tears by the
Doctor Who episode, which probably gave David Tennant the least screen time of
any episode he did, and that I didn't oversell the episode as one of my
all-time favorites. My only complaint is that I feel more than a bit wasted
from not enough sleep this morning because I *had* to get up by 7:30 to watch
both the German Formula 1 Grand Prix race and today's Tour de France stage in
the Pyrenees; many yawns this morning.

But I wanted to follow up on a couple of things that came up in conversation.

There are several brands of evaporative cooling cloth products (scarves,
towels, head bands, hat and helmet liners), but the two leading brands seem to
be Chill-Its (from a company called Ergodyne) and Frog Toggs, both of which
are available from Amazon. Some customer reviews for each product do have some
issues, but most reviewers seem to love the products (assuming that they are
real customers and not shills).

The beef rancher I was trying to think of is Simply Grazin, who actually raise
certified organic pork, veal, and poultry in addition to beef
(http://www.simplygrazin.com/about/). The 220 acre farm they lease is right on
Rt. 206 and Opossum Rd. in Skillman, just south of the Montgomery Blooms
nursery. They used to sell their products at the farm, but a couple of years
ago opened a retail shop on Rt 518 in Blawenburg under the name Mallery's
Grazin Meats (http://www.mallerysgrazinmeats.com/). Then they opened a second
shop in the Knightsbridge Center in Hillsborough (that office/shop complex
cattycorner from the Hillsborough Municipal Center and Library at South Branch
Rd. and Beeckman Rd.) where they also operate Mallery's Eatery
(http://eatery.mallerysgrazinmeats.com/), which serves breakfast and lunch
daily. The news item I saw was apparently they they are now expanding to serve
dinner one night a month with seating by reservation only--not too
practical for a no-advanced-planning type like me. I first became aware of
their beef when they were serving samples at a specialty foods festival that
McCaffery's put on under a tent in the P'ton shopping center courtyard a couple
of years ago, which Paul and Sara also went to. I've bought their meat at
McCaffery's a couple of times since then--good, but not really exceptional, and
pretty pricey. Maybe their retail meat shop might be a source for cooking suet
(or pork fat to render into fresh lard), since they get all their cuts directly
from the south Jersey organic meat processor/butcher they work with
(Bringhurst's in Berlin)?

Regarding Roku boxes for Ellen to stream video content from the Web to the TV,
there are a couple of options depending on how high the HD needs to be (I'm
not sure whether the TV is a 720p or 1080p). If the TV is only 720p, the most
cost-effective model is the $50 Roku LT
http://www.amazon.com/Roku-2450D-LT-Streaming-Player/dp/B008R7EVE4/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronicsie=UTF8qid=1373207796sr=1-2keywords=roku
which is even purple instead of black.
Or for $10 more, you can get the Roku HD, which adds an instant replay feature
on the remote and but has only purple highlights on a mostly black box
http://www.amazon.com/Roku-2500R-HD-Streaming-Player/dp/B007KEZMX4/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronicsie=UTF8qid=1373207796sr=1-4keywords=roku
If the TV is a 1080p screen, the same models will provide better-than-DVD
quality, but to get full HD one would need to move up to the $80 Roku 2 XD
http://www.amazon.com/Roku-XD-Streaming-Player-1080p/dp/B005CLPP8E/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronicsie=UTF8qid=1373207796sr=1-3keywords=roku
If the TV doesn't have an available HDMI connector (I should have looked...)
only the two lower cost, 720p models are relevant because they have RCA-type
video and stereo audio connectors (the 2 XD has only HDMI).
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Follow up on a few items

2013-07-07 Thread Writer

Huh? Did we miss something?

*blink*

Nadine

> 
>I really had a good time last evening and I just wanted to say thank you again 
>for the thoughtful gifts. I just hope you weren't all bored to tears by the 
>Doctor Who episode, which probably gave David Tennant the least screen time of 
>any episode he did, and that I didn't oversell the episode as one of my 
>all-time favorites. My only complaint is that I feel more than a bit wasted 
>from not enough sleep this morning because I *had* to get up by 7:30 to watch 
>both the German Formula 1 Grand Prix race and today's Tour de France stage in 
>the Pyrenees; many yawns this morning. 
>
>But I wanted to follow up on a couple of things that came up in conversation.
>
>There are several brands of evaporative cooling cloth products (scarves, 
>towels, head bands, hat and helmet liners), but the two leading brands seem to 
>be Chill-Its (from a company called Ergodyne) and Frog Toggs, both of which 
>are available from Amazon. Some customer reviews for each product do have some 
>issues, but most reviewers seem to love the products (assuming that they are 
>real customers and not shills).
>
>The beef rancher I was trying to think of is Simply Grazin, who actually raise 
>certified organic pork, veal, and poultry in addition to beef 
>(http://www.simplygrazin.com/about/). The 220 acre farm they lease is right on 
>Rt. 206 and Opossum Rd. in Skillman, just south of the Montgomery Blooms 
>nursery. They used to sell their products at the farm, but a couple of years 
>ago opened a retail shop on Rt 518 in Blawenburg under the name Mallery's 
>Grazin Meats (http://www.mallerysgrazinmeats.com/). Then they opened a second 
>shop in the Knightsbridge Center in Hillsborough (that office/shop complex 
>cattycorner from the Hillsborough Municipal Center and Library at South Branch 
>Rd. and Beeckman Rd.) where they also operate Mallery's Eatery 
>(http://eatery.mallerysgrazinmeats.com/), which serves breakfast and lunch 
>daily. The news item I saw was apparently they they are now expanding to serve 
>dinner one night a month with seating by reservation only--not too
 practical for a no-advanced-planning type like me. I first became aware of 
their beef when they were serving samples at a specialty foods festival that 
McCaffery's put on under a tent in the P'ton shopping center courtyard a couple 
of years ago, which Paul and Sara also went to. I've bought their meat at 
McCaffery's a couple of times since then--good, but not really exceptional, and 
pretty pricey. Maybe their retail meat shop might be a source for cooking suet 
(or pork fat to render into fresh lard), since they get all their cuts directly 
from the south Jersey organic meat processor/butcher they work with 
(Bringhurst's in Berlin)?
>
>Regarding Roku boxes for Ellen to stream video content from the Web to the TV, 
>there are a couple of options depending on how high the HD needs to be (I'm 
>not sure whether the TV is a 720p or 1080p). If the TV is only 720p, the most 
>cost-effective model is the $50 Roku LT
>http://www.amazon.com/Roku-2450D-LT-Streaming-Player/dp/B008R7EVE4/ref=sr_1_2?s=electronics=UTF8=1373207796=1-2=roku
>which is even purple instead of black. 
>Or for $10 more, you can get the Roku HD, which adds an instant replay feature 
>on the remote and but has only purple highlights on a mostly black box
>http://www.amazon.com/Roku-2500R-HD-Streaming-Player/dp/B007KEZMX4/ref=sr_1_4?s=electronics=UTF8=1373207796=1-4=roku
>If the TV is a 1080p screen, the same models will provide better-than-DVD 
>quality, but to get full HD one would need to move up to the $80 Roku 2 XD
>http://www.amazon.com/Roku-XD-Streaming-Player-1080p/dp/B005CLPP8E/ref=sr_1_3?s=electronics=UTF8=1373207796=1-3=roku
>If the TV doesn't have an available HDMI connector (I should have looked...) 
>only the two lower cost, 720p models are relevant because they have RCA-type 
>video and stereo audio connectors (the 2 XD has only HDMI).

Re: Why won't FrameMaker use the default attribute I set in the EDD?

2013-06-08 Thread Writer

Heather, you don't say what version of FM you're using, and I'm not totally 
clear what you are doing, but I'll throw this out there...

You want to change the default alignment of images, right?

Did you actually change the default setting in the EDD? If so, did you then 
import the new EDD settings into the concept.template.fm file?

Nadine

Hello everyone,

Here is my scenario:

1. Create a new concept.
2. Insert fig within conbody. pimage is inserted automatically 
within fig (because of EDD). **The same problem occurs if I only insert 
image.
3. When I click in the Attributes pod, on align, the bottom says: align 
Type: Optional Choice Default: left. However, the actual value in the table 
is no value and the image appears center aligned.

4. Save the concept.
5. Close the concept.
6. Re-open the concept.
7. image now has align = center.
Here is an excerpt from my EDD for the concept, within the element image.
Name: align     Choice     Optional 
Choices:    left, right, center, current
Default:    left

I have tried an Optional String with a default value as well but in this case 
the default is also ignored. It does not seem that one can set a Default for a 
Required Attribute.

This is not a show-stopper because we can manually set the attribute for each 
image and it is saved in the .xml. However, I would like to understand how 
this works (or doesn't) and it would also be convenient to have it default to 
a left alignment whenever an image is added.

Thanks in advance for any response!

Heather
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Why won't FrameMaker use the default attribute I set in the EDD?

2013-06-08 Thread Writer

Heather, you don't say what version of FM you're using, and I'm not totally 
clear what you are doing, but I'll throw this out there...

You want to change the default alignment of images, right?

Did you actually change the default setting in the EDD? If so, did you then 
import the new EDD settings into the concept.template.fm file?

Nadine

>Hello everyone,
>
>Here is my scenario:
>
>1. Create a new concept.
>2. Insert  within .  is inserted automatically 
>within  (because of EDD). **The same problem occurs if I only insert 
>.
>3. When I click in the Attributes pod, on align, the bottom says: "align 
>Type: Optional Choice Default: left". However, the actual value in the table 
>is " and the image appears center aligned.
>
>4. Save the concept.
>5. Close the concept.
>6. Re-open the concept.
>7.  now has align = center.
>Here is an excerpt from my EDD for the concept, within the element .
>Name: align ??? Choice ??? Optional 
>Choices:??? left, right, center, current
>Default:??? left
>
>I have tried an Optional String with a default value as well but in this case 
>the default is also ignored. It does not seem that one can set a Default for a 
>Required Attribute.
>
>This is not a show-stopper because we can manually set the attribute for each 
>image and it is saved in the .xml. However, I would like to understand how 
>this works (or doesn't) and it would also be convenient to have it default to 
>a left alignment whenever an image is added.
>
>Thanks in advance for any response!
>
>Heather

Re: Access - Frame - pdf. Help with a (fun) project, maybe?

2013-05-27 Thread Writer


I'm surprised that you can't get your data to export to Word. According to this 
article, it should work: 
http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/access-help/export-access-data-to-a-word-document-HA010341683.aspx

Alternatively, if you can get HTML out of Access, what about opening it up in 
Word? I expect you'd have to have Acrobat to manage the bookmarks.

Nadine


 From: Theresa de Valence t...@bstw.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 5:04:40 PM
Subject: Re: Access - Frame - pdf. Help with a (fun) project, maybe?
 

We seem to have succeeded, er, partly.

Is it possible for Frame to import a HTML document? (The import function 
doesn't give that choice). If I drag and drop the document onto Firefox, 
the html opens. Then I can copy and paste into Frame. Seems a bit 
cumbersome.

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2013-05-27 Thread Writer


I'm surprised that you can't get your data to export to Word. According to this 
article, it should 
work:?http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/access-help/export-access-data-to-a-word-document-HA010341683.aspx

Alternatively, if you can get HTML out of Access, what about opening it up in 
Word? I expect you'd have to have Acrobat to manage the bookmarks.

Nadine

>
> From: Theresa de Valence 
>To: framers at lists.frameusers.com 
>Sent: Sunday, May 26, 2013 5:04:40 PM
>Subject: Re: Access -> Frame -> pdf. Help with a (fun) project, maybe?
> 
>
>We seem to have succeeded, er, partly.
>
>Is it possible for Frame to import a HTML document? (The import function 
>doesn't give that choice). If I drag and drop the document onto Firefox, 
>the html opens. Then I can copy and paste into Frame. Seems a bit 
>cumbersome.
>
>Thanks.

Re: Is there a way to link from a FrameMaker file to a destination in a PDF file?

2013-05-23 Thread Writer

Hi, Duncan:

I also recommend that you ask WebWorks ePublisher questions on the wwp-users 
Yahoo Group (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/wwp-users/). If you do, make 
sure you state what your input files are (eg, FM 10), what version of 
ePublisher you use (eg, 2012.4), and what output you create (eg, Reverb).

However, check out this article on the WebWorks site and see if that answers 
your question. 
http://www.webworks.com/Support/ePublisher/Legacy_Docs/Tech_Notes/Common/EX_ePub9_Linking_to_PDFs.shtml

Cheers,

Nadine

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From: Duncan, Gary gary.dun...@kronos.com
Subject: Is there a way to link from a FrameMaker file to a destination in a 
PDF file?
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com
Received: Thursday, May 23, 2013, 10:14 AM

Hi, everyone,  How can I link from a Frame file to a destination within a PDF 
file? I am able to link from Frame to a PDF using the Message Client command 
(message open file name of pdf). I tried adding the HTML syntax #name of 
destination in PDF, but the link becomes dead and also does not process 
through WebWorks as a successful hyperlink. Any suggestions or is this 
impossible?Thank you,  Gary Duncan | Principal Technical Writer | Kronos 
Incorporated
tel: +1 978 947 4164
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2013-05-23 Thread Writer

Hi, Duncan:

I also recommend that you ask WebWorks ePublisher questions on the wwp-users 
Yahoo Group (http://tech.groups.yahoo.com/group/wwp-users/). If you do, make 
sure you state what your input files are (eg, FM 10), what version of 
ePublisher you use (eg, 2012.4), and what output you create (eg, Reverb).

However, check out this article on the WebWorks site and see if that answers 
your question. 
http://www.webworks.com/Support/ePublisher/Legacy_Docs/Tech_Notes/Common/EX_ePub9_Linking_to_PDFs.shtml

Cheers,

Nadine

--- On Thu, 5/23/13, Duncan, Gary  wrote:

From: Duncan, Gary <gary.dun...@kronos.com>
Subject: Is there a way to link from a FrameMaker file to a destination in a 
PDF file?
To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" 
Received: Thursday, May 23, 2013, 10:14 AM

Hi, everyone, ?How can I link from a Frame file to a destination within a PDF 
file? I am able to link from Frame to a PDF using the Message Client command 
(message open file ). I tried adding the HTML syntax #, but the link becomes dead and also does not process 
through WebWorks as a successful hyperlink. Any suggestions or is this 
impossible?Thank you, ?Gary Duncan | Principal Technical Writer | Kronos 
Incorporated
tel: +1 978 947 4164
Kronos | Time & Attendance ? Scheduling ? Absence Management ? HR & Payroll ? 
Hiring ? Labor Analytics

Join Kronos on: kronos.com | Facebook | Twitter | LinkedIn | YouTube ? ? ?
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Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription

2013-05-22 Thread Writer

Truth in Advertising Disclosure: I am biased. I am a reseller for a software
application that is sold mainly by subscription (WebWorks ePublisher). But I
purchase other software by subscription, and I prefer it.

But even WebWorks offers a perpetual license so that when you stop buying the 
subscription, you still have the software. You just don't have any upgrades 
until you resubscribe.

Nadine
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OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription

2013-05-22 Thread Writer

>Truth in Advertising Disclosure: I am biased. I am a reseller for a software
>application that is sold mainly by subscription (WebWorks ePublisher). But I
>purchase other software by subscription, and I prefer it.

But even WebWorks offers a perpetual license so that when you stop buying the 
subscription, you still have the software. You just don't have any upgrades 
until you resubscribe.

Nadine

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription

2013-05-22 Thread Writer

> No, the WebWorks subscription expires, just like a trial version.


The subscription ends after the four upgrades are released, but if you 
purchased the perpetual license, you do not lose your ability to use the 
software even though you do not receive any more upgrades.

> It'll be another $800 (or whatever) in a year or the software will

> stop working. A perpetual license is available, but it's considerably
> more expensive.

I don't know what equals "considerably", but of COURSE it's more expensive.

Nadine

Re: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-16 Thread Writer

 I appreciate everyone's feedback, but plans to build a 

 competitive product and business plans for a competitive product may be a bit 
 premature.  ;-)


I strongly disagree. I think it's been a long time coming. I want more choices. 
I want to be able to see the text in the index dialog box.

Lack of competition does not make a healthy market.

Nadine
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Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

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An easy way to find out what many of those are is to look at the
plug-ins that people are willing to pay for. 

Good point.

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> I appreciate everyone's feedback, but plans to build a?

> competitive product and business plans for a competitive product may be a bit 
> premature.? ;-)


I strongly disagree. I think it's been a long time coming. I want more choices. 
I want to be able to see the text in the index dialog box.

Lack of competition does not make a healthy market.

Nadine

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-16 Thread Writer

>An easy way to find out what many of those are is to look at the
>plug-ins that people are willing to pay for.?

Good point.

Nadine

Re: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-13 Thread Writer

At the risk of sounding all Pollyanna, perhaps what Adobe is doing is actually 
good for the tech writing community. Perhaps it WILL inspire people to create 
other choices/other competition.

At least it is prompting the conversation.

Nadine

--- On Sat, 5/11/13, Jeremy H. Griffith jer...@omsys.com wrote:

 From: Jeremy H. Griffith jer...@omsys.com
 Subject: Re: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Received: Saturday, May 11, 2013, 8:54 PM
 On Sat, 11 May 2013 11:33:13 -0700
 (PDT), Writer 
 generic...@yahoo.ca
 wrote:
 
 I say we start a new company and create a competitor 
 to FrameMaker! Who's with me? Anyone? Anyone?
 
 Well... we've had one on the back burner for several 
 years now.  Basically it's an Open Source GPL project,
 so zero financing needed, with a very basic core and
 plugins independently installable for most of the
 functionality.  We called it Omni 2.0, after the
 very first product I wrote, the first screen-oriented 
 editor ever on CP/M 1.4 on 8080 (way before WordStar).
 
 If there really is much interest, we can set it up
 as a SourceForge project pretty easily (we have a
 couple of others on SourceForge).  We're not set on
 that name, or on much of anything else except GPL.
 
 Greed doesn't always have to win out...  ;-)
 
 -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
   jer...@omsys.com 
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Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-13 Thread Writer

Now, Dave, that's not what Google told me when I did a 2 second search on 
capitalism vs free market.

*figuratively checks to make sure the figurative pin is back in the figurative 
grenade, then goes back to earning money to support her smart assery*

Nadine
 

 Nadine -
 
 Nadine, I certainly wouldn't swing the bat if you were within range.  On the 
 other hand, having served in the US Army Infantry, I'd call it 
 bursting radius.
 
 Well, if you'll accept an American source, please see
 
     http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/capitalism and
 
     
 http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/free+market?show=0t=1368475416 .
 
 So, I make the answer to your question as,  . . . an economic system 
 characterized by . . . distribution of goods that are determined mainly by 
 competition in a free market.
 
 Also, please consider the following.  It is a very-close paraphrasing of a 
 statement by a professor of accounting is his class many years ago.
 
 The purpose of business is to make money.  The purpose of business is _not_ 
 to 
 produce a valuable good or to deliver a worthwhile service.  The purpose of 
 business is to _make_money_.
 
 And, if you'll allow an allusion from the Bible:  The _love_ of money 
 is the root of all evil.  (emphasis added because it is often misquoted as 
 Money is the root of all evil.  DAS)
 
 *Being concerned that Nadine and others might be within bursting radius, puts 
 figurative safety pin back into figurative hand grenade.*
 
 Regards,
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2013-05-13 Thread Writer

At the risk of sounding all Pollyanna, perhaps what Adobe is doing is actually 
good for the tech writing community. Perhaps it WILL inspire people to create 
other choices/other competition.

At least it is prompting the conversation.

Nadine

--- On Sat, 5/11/13, Jeremy H. Griffith  wrote:

> From: Jeremy H. Griffith 
> Subject: Re: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
> To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" 
> Received: Saturday, May 11, 2013, 8:54 PM
> On Sat, 11 May 2013 11:33:13 -0700
> (PDT), Writer 
> 
> wrote:
> 
> >I say we start a new company and create a competitor 
> >to FrameMaker! Who's with me? Anyone? Anyone?
> 
> Well... we've had one on the back burner for several 
> years now.? Basically it's an Open Source GPL project,
> so zero financing needed, with a very basic core and
> plugins independently installable for most of the
> functionality.? We called it "Omni 2.0", after the
> very first product I wrote, the first screen-oriented 
> editor ever on CP/M 1.4 on 8080 (way before WordStar).
> 
> If there really is much interest, we can set it up
> as a SourceForge project pretty easily (we have a
> couple of others on SourceForge).? We're not set on
> that name, or on much of anything else except GPL.
> 
> Greed doesn't always have to win out...? ;-)
> 
> -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
> ? ?
> ? http://mif2go.com/
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OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-13 Thread Writer

>?That's how capitalism is supposed to work.?

I don't mean to nitpick, but is that capitalism or free market?

*steps back out of Dave's swing range*

=D

Nadine

OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-13 Thread Writer

Now, Dave, that's not what Google told me when I did a 2 second search on 
"capitalism vs free market".

*figuratively checks to make sure the figurative pin is back in the figurative 
grenade, then goes back to earning money to support her smart assery*

Nadine
?

> Nadine -
> 
> Nadine, I certainly wouldn't swing the bat if you were within range.? On the 
> other hand, having served in the US Army Infantry, I'd call it 
> "bursting radius."
> 
> Well, if you'll accept an American source, please see
> 
> ??? http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/capitalism and
> 
> ??? 
> http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/free+market?show=0=1368475416 .
> 
> So, I make the answer to your question as, "?.?.?.?an economic system 
> characterized by?.?.?.?distribution of goods that are determined mainly by 
> competition in a free market."
> 
> Also, please consider the following.? It is a very-close paraphrasing of a 
> statement by a professor of accounting is his class many years ago.
> 
> The purpose of business is to make money.? The purpose of business is _not_ 
> to 
> produce a valuable good or to deliver a worthwhile service.? The purpose of 
> business is to _make_money_.
> 
> And, if you'll allow an allusion from the Bible:? "The _love_ of money 
> is the root of all evil."? (emphasis added because it is often misquoted as 
> "Money is the root of all evil."? DAS)
> 
> *Being concerned that Nadine and others might be within bursting radius, puts 
> figurative safety pin back into figurative hand grenade.*
> 
> Regards,
> Dave Stamm
> Information Engineer

Re: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-11 Thread Writer

I say we start a new company and create a competitor to FrameMaker! Who's with 
me? Anyone? Anyone?

*crickets chirp*

=D

Nadine


- Original Message -
 From: Craig Ede craig...@hotmail.com
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Cc: 
 Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 1:24:36 PM
 Subject: FW: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
 
T his is troubling, and so one message is buy the CS software on CD/DVD
 while you still can. A number of my friends, most connected with academic
 institutions, are doing that. 
 
 I expect Adobe is attempting to have everyone on the same page as regards
 these applications so that one set of help files defines the current 
 state
 of an application. This would help a lot in terms of expected outcomes when
 using the product. However, it requires a constant state of reeducation as
 new features are added and different ways of handling things are introduced.
 Not that we don't have to deal with this already, but at least we know if we
 do something in a given version, it is going to work in a way that we
 already are familiar with. 
 
 As for extending this the current version of the app beyond the 
 bounds of
 the Creative Suite, I rather doubt that Adobe will do that anytime soon. If
 they have their finger on the pulse of their users they must realized that,
 for instance, in the medical device industry, all tools used to produce
 documentation must be validated. It would be impossible  (and expensive!) to
 validate a moving target as the apps were continually being improved and the
 former version made unavailable.
 
 Craig Ede
 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
 [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
 Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 11:38 AM
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
 
 I have just heard a rumor that the CS Suite is going to available in future
 only on an SaaS basis, by subscription. TCS/FrameMaker could follow?
 
 I do wonder whether the accountants that run large corporates like Adobe
 understand how important their software is to the countless thousands of
 freelances who have to scrape every last penny to buy it - but at least then
 they own something, not vapor that goes phut as soon as you stop paying for
 it.
 
 For the last two decades FrameMaker, Illustrator, Acrobat and Dreamweaver
 have been the rocks underpinning what I do. I'm far less sure about the
 future, though.
 
 -- 
 Steve [somewhat aghast]
 
 
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Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-11 Thread Writer

This is why I'm uncomfortable with suites of software. Especially ones that are 
so interdependent. I don't like having all my eggs in one basket.

Nadine

PS: Z, you seem to be good with numbers. How much are we going to need to raise 
to create an FM competitor?

Almost everyone keeps ignoring the question of CHOICE. There's no doubt you 
can make a case for subscription but you can also make a case for getting the 
disks or downloading the software.

Of what benefit to Adobe is depriving us to choose what we want? Why is 
mailing me disks for additional cost or providing a download bad for Adobe? 
Clearly it isn't. There is something else going on.


Certainly Adobe will jack up the price of subscription. They might have other 
things in mind also but the point is, why make everyone adopt a model that 
doesn't benefit everyone? What's in it for Adobe? That's what I'd like to know.
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2013-05-11 Thread Writer

I say we start a new company and create a competitor to FrameMaker! Who's with 
me? Anyone? Anyone?

*crickets chirp*

=D

Nadine


- Original Message -
> From: Craig Ede 
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Cc: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 1:24:36 PM
> Subject: FW: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
> 
>T his is troubling, and so one message is "buy the CS software on CD/DVD
> while you still can." A number of my friends, most connected with academic
> institutions, are doing that. 
> 
> I expect Adobe is attempting to have everyone on the same page as regards
> these applications so that one set of help files defines the "current 
> state"
> of an application. This would help a lot in terms of expected outcomes when
> using the product. However, it requires a constant state of reeducation as
> new features are added and different ways of handling things are introduced.
> Not that we don't have to deal with this already, but at least we know if we
> do something in a given version, it is going to work in a way that we
> already are familiar with. 
> 
> As for extending this "the current version of the app" beyond the 
> bounds of
> the Creative Suite, I rather doubt that Adobe will do that anytime soon. If
> they have their finger on the pulse of their users they must realized that,
> for instance, in the medical device industry, all tools used to produce
> documentation must be validated. It would be impossible? (and expensive!) to
> validate a moving target as the apps were continually being improved and the
> former version made unavailable.
> 
> Craig Ede
> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Steve Rickaby
> Sent: Thursday, May 09, 2013 11:38 AM
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
> 
> I have just heard a rumor that the CS Suite is going to available in future
> only on an SaaS basis, by subscription. TCS/FrameMaker could follow?
> 
> I do wonder whether the accountants that run large corporates like Adobe
> understand how important their software is to the countless thousands of
> freelances who have to scrape every last penny to buy it - but at least then
> they own something, not vapor that goes phut as soon as you stop paying for
> it.
> 
> For the last two decades FrameMaker, Illustrator, Acrobat and Dreamweaver
> have been the rocks underpinning what I do. I'm far less sure about the
> future, though.
> 
> -- 
> Steve [somewhat aghast]
> 
> 
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OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-11 Thread Writer

This is why I'm uncomfortable with suites of software. Especially ones that are 
so interdependent. I don't like having all my eggs in one basket.

Nadine

PS: Z, you seem to be good with numbers. How much are we going to need to raise 
to create an FM competitor?

>Almost everyone keeps ignoring the question of CHOICE. There's no doubt you 
>can make a case for subscription but you can also make a case for getting the 
>disks or downloading the software.
>
>Of what benefit to Adobe is depriving us to choose what we want? Why is 
>mailing me disks for additional cost or providing a download bad for Adobe? 
>Clearly it isn't. There is something else going on.
>
>
Certainly Adobe will jack up the price of subscription. They might have other 
things in mind also but the point is, why make everyone adopt a model that 
doesn't benefit everyone? What's in it for Adobe? That's what I'd like to know.

Re: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-09 Thread Writer

I was wondering when someone was going to bring this up. I share your 
sentiments/fears exactly, Steve.

Nadine

- Original Message -
 From: Steve Rickaby srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Cc: 
 Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 12:37:59 PM
 Subject: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

 I have just heard a rumor that the CS Suite is going to available in future 
 only 
 on an SaaS basis, by subscription. TCS/FrameMaker could follow?

 I do wonder whether the accountants that run large corporates like Adobe 
 understand how important their software is to the countless thousands of 
 freelances who have to scrape every last penny to buy it - but at least then 
 they own something, not vapor that goes phut as soon as you stop paying for 
 it.

 For the last two decades FrameMaker, Illustrator, Acrobat and Dreamweaver 
 have 
 been the rocks underpinning what I do. I'm far less sure about the future, 
 though.

 -- 
 Steve [somewhat aghast]
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OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only

2013-05-09 Thread Writer

I was wondering when someone was going to bring this up. I share your 
sentiments/fears exactly, Steve.

Nadine


- Original Message -
> From: Steve Rickaby 
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Cc: 
> Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2013 12:37:59 PM
> Subject: OT: Corporate madness - Adobe software to be subscription only
> 
> I have just heard a rumor that the CS Suite is going to available in future 
> only 
> on an SaaS basis, by subscription. TCS/FrameMaker could follow?
> 
> I do wonder whether the accountants that run large corporates like Adobe 
> understand how important their software is to the countless thousands of 
> freelances who have to scrape every last penny to buy it - but at least then 
> they own something, not vapor that goes phut as soon as you stop paying for 
> it.
> 
> For the last two decades FrameMaker, Illustrator, Acrobat and Dreamweaver 
> have 
> been the rocks underpinning what I do. I'm far less sure about the future, 
> though.
> 
> -- 
> Steve [somewhat aghast]

anyone looking for a writer?

2013-04-06 Thread Writer

Well said, Rick. I agree.

Nadine


This seems like a great place for this kind of post. You get an occasional 
posts from people offering FrameMaker jobs and those looking for FrameMaker 
jobs. It's all good. The list is fairly low-volume anyway, and you can easily 
delete any posts you consider inappropriate. Besides, if I was looking to hire 
someone, I would want to know that someone as qualified as Jess is looking for 
a job.
>?
>Rick
>?
>Rick Quatro
>Carmen Publishing Inc.
>585-283-5045
>rick at frameexpert.com
>?
>?
>?
>From:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at 
>lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Cal Callahan
>Sent: Saturday, April 06, 2013 12:42 PM
>To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>Subject: Re: anyone looking for a writer?
>?
>Much as I wish you success, I don't believe this is an appropriate posting 
>here. The list would soon be filled by pleas from people like you and me who 
>are looking for work.
>?
>cal
>
>?
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Re: FrameMaker - PDF - ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Writer

Hi, Steve:

I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but WebWorks ePublisher has Book ePub 
2.0 output (you can see a sample of the output here: 
http://www.webworks.com/Tour/Output_Formats/) and PDF output. You can generate 
both outputs at the same time.

Nadine


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 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Cc: 
 Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 7:49:46 AM
 Subject: FrameMaker - PDF - ePub format?
 
 I am wondering if there is any simple route from a hyperlinked PDF to 
 ePub/eBook 
 formats. I have no experience of the latter, but would like to offer a 
 FrameMaker - ePub service in future. Any advice would be welcome.
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FrameMaker -> PDF -> ePub format?

2013-04-05 Thread Writer

Hi, Steve:

I'm not sure if this is what you mean, but WebWorks ePublisher has Book ePub 
2.0 output (you can see a sample of the output 
here:?http://www.webworks.com/Tour/Output_Formats/) and PDF output. You can 
generate both outputs at the same time.

Nadine


- Original Message -
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> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Cc: 
> Sent: Friday, April 5, 2013 7:49:46 AM
> Subject: FrameMaker -> PDF -> ePub format?
> 
> I am wondering if there is any simple route from a hyperlinked PDF to 
> ePub/eBook 
> formats. I have no experience of the latter, but would like to offer a 
> FrameMaker -> ePub service in future. Any advice would be welcome.
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Re: Cost of software charged outside US borders

2013-02-22 Thread Writer



Thanks for the link, Alan. I knew that people in Australia and NZ got charged 
way more for music. I forgot about the software thing. Hurray for Australia for 
being proactive about the issue. We see a similar thing here in Canada, 
especially with the price of books.

Nadine



 From: Alan T Litchfield a...@alphabyte.co.nz
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 3:58:15 PM
Subject: Re: Cost of software charged outside US borders
 
Sorry, link disappeared. Thanks Nadine.

http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1objectid=10867173

Alan

On 23/02/13 9:23 AM, Alan T Litchfield wrote:
 I have complained on this list before about price gouging by Adobe, but
 this article (albeit about music, refers to Adobe too) is interesting in
 that my concerns have been noted by others.

 What is also interesting is the big players, MS, Adobe and Apple are
 being called to account by a parliamentary inquiry in Australia for
 price discrepancies for bits and bytes that are merely downloaded.

 I hope for more realistic charges from Adobe in the future, but well...

 Alan

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Re: Cost of software charged outside US borders

2013-02-22 Thread Writer

I think we're constantly looking at what's the best way to deliver value to 
our customers ...

And then for his next act, Mr. Narayen ran for Parliament.


Nadine


 From: Alan T Litchfield a...@alphabyte.co.nz
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 7:22:10 PM
Subject: Re: Cost of software charged outside US borders
 
!!!

It is of benefit to customers to be gouged whilst buying Creative 
Cloud and it is phenomenal value to customers???

Methinks not, but maybe I am not of their future market.

Alan

On 23/02/13 12:24 PM, Helen Borrie wrote:
 At 09:23 a.m. 23/02/2013, Alan T Litchfield wrote:
 I have complained on this list before about price gouging by Adobe, but 
 this article (albeit about music, refers to Adobe too) is interesting in 
 that my concerns have been noted by others.

 Actually, Shatanu Narayen gave a crazy press conference on the issue earlier 
 in the week.  Look at 
 http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/adobe-chief-dodges-questions-over-pricing-20130214-2eetr.html
  for evidence that even Adobe's CEO (despite some mind-boggling verbal 
 diarrhoea) doesn't actually have a clue why it costs us twice as much to buy 
 his software than it costs his customers in other countries.  He seems to be 
 saying we're lucky because of some sort of marketing benefit we get from 
 being gouged.

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Thanks for the link, Alan. I knew that people in Australia and NZ got charged 
way more for music. I forgot about the software thing. Hurray for Australia for 
being proactive about the issue. We see a similar thing here in Canada, 
especially with the price of books.

Nadine


>
> From: Alan T Litchfield 
>To: framers at lists.frameusers.com 
>Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 3:58:15 PM
>Subject: Re: Cost of software charged outside US borders
> 
>Sorry, link disappeared. Thanks Nadine.
>
>http://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1=10867173
>
>Alan
>
>On 23/02/13 9:23 AM, Alan T Litchfield wrote:
>> I have complained on this list before about price gouging by Adobe, but
>> this article (albeit about music, refers to Adobe too) is interesting in
>> that my concerns have been noted by others.
>>
>> What is also interesting is the big players, MS, Adobe and Apple are
>> being called to account by a parliamentary inquiry in Australia for
>> price discrepancies for bits and bytes that are merely downloaded.
>>
>> I hope for more realistic charges from Adobe in the future, but well...
>>
>> Alan
>
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>PO Box 1941, Auckland
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Cost of software charged outside US borders

2013-02-22 Thread Writer

"I think we're constantly looking at what's the best way to deliver value to 
our customers ..."

And then for his next act, Mr. Narayen ran for?Parliament.


Nadine

>
> From: Alan T Litchfield 
>To: framers at lists.frameusers.com 
>Sent: Friday, February 22, 2013 7:22:10 PM
>Subject: Re: Cost of software charged outside US borders
> 
>!!!
>
>It is of benefit to customers to be gouged whilst buying "Creative 
>Cloud" and it is "phenomenal value to customers"???
>
>Methinks not, but maybe I am not of their future market.
>
>Alan
>
>On 23/02/13 12:24 PM, Helen Borrie wrote:
>> At 09:23 a.m. 23/02/2013, Alan T Litchfield wrote:
>>> I have complained on this list before about price gouging by Adobe, but 
>>> this article (albeit about music, refers to Adobe too) is interesting in 
>>> that my concerns have been noted by others.
>>
>> Actually, Shatanu Narayen gave a crazy press conference on the issue earlier 
>> in the week.? Look at 
>> http://www.smh.com.au/technology/technology-news/adobe-chief-dodges-questions-over-pricing-20130214-2eetr.html
>>  for evidence that even Adobe's CEO (despite some mind-boggling verbal 
>> diarrhoea) doesn't actually have a clue why it costs us twice as much to buy 
>> his software than it costs his customers in other countries.? He seems to be 
>> saying we're lucky because of some sort of "marketing benefit" we get from 
>> being gouged.
>>
>> Helen
>>
>>
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