Re: [Framers] Frame2017 slow on network??
Our intent network is heavily protected because our company deals with consumer financial information. As a result we have both high volume of traffic on the network and a great deal of behind the scenes security software. FrameMaker is slow in our network due to the latency built in because of those factors. I tell my people to work from their local drives and archive and share on network drives only when required. And don’t get me started on how Windows 10 screws things up. > On Aug 17, 2018, at 14:58, Doug wrote: > > I dunno...that sounds kinda subversive to me. :D > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 3:50 PM, Robert Lauriston > wrote: > >> Best practice is to use Subversion or some other source control system >> with file locks (i.e., not Git). >> >> Keeping source in shared directories on a file server is about as out >> of date as single-user installed software that runs only on Windows. >> >>> On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:36 PM, wrote: >>> I've had that problem as well. As I understand it, it has to do with >>> handshaking protocols and packet prioritization. >>> >>> The best answer I have found is to work on the files locally, and then >>> save them back up to the network drive. Suboptimal, but faster. >> ___ >> >> This message is from the Framers mailing list >> >> Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com >> Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com >> Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/ >> framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ >> Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ >> listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com >> Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com >> > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Frame2017 slow on network??
I dunno...that sounds kinda subversive to me. :D On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 3:50 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > Best practice is to use Subversion or some other source control system > with file locks (i.e., not Git). > > Keeping source in shared directories on a file server is about as out > of date as single-user installed software that runs only on Windows. > > On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:36 PM, wrote: > >I've had that problem as well. As I understand it, it has to do with > >handshaking protocols and packet prioritization. > > > >The best answer I have found is to work on the files locally, and then > >save them back up to the network drive. Suboptimal, but faster. > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ > listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Frame2017 slow on network??
Best practice is to use Subversion or some other source control system with file locks (i.e., not Git). Keeping source in shared directories on a file server is about as out of date as single-user installed software that runs only on Windows. On Fri, Aug 17, 2018 at 12:36 PM, wrote: >I've had that problem as well. As I understand it, it has to do with >handshaking protocols and packet prioritization. > >The best answer I have found is to work on the files locally, and then >save them back up to the network drive. Suboptimal, but faster. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Frame2017 slow on network??
I've had that problem as well. As I understand it, it has to do with handshaking protocols and packet prioritization. The best answer I have found is to work on the files locally, and then save them back up to the network drive. Suboptimal, but faster. Grant On August 17, 2018 at 12:20 PM Bernard Aschwanden <[1]bern...@publishingsmarter.com> wrote: If it is slow on the network I don't know if it's fair to blame FrameMaker specifically. It *might* be, but my best guess is the network may be the issue. I've worked with files on a slow and a fast network (or at slow and fast times at client sites) and it can make a HUGE impact on the content. I find that if the traffic is high and the network isn't supporting it (or if it's on a CCMS that is remotely hosted) the result is "slow FM" but the cause is outside of Adobe's sphere of control. Bernard -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:[2]framers-bounces+bernard=publishingsmarter.com@lists.frame users.com] On Behalf Of Jules Harrell Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 2:16 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: SPAM -> Re: [Framers] Frame2017 slow on network?? I had the same problem. Seems like the old FrameMaker I once knew and loved is no longer in existence. Jules On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 10:29 AM, Caroline Tabach <[3]caroline.tab...@gmail.com wrote: Hi, Our purchase of Frame went through. I am working on Frame 2017, with my files on the network In the past I always worked locally. FrameMaker seems a bit slow to me. Is this owing to working from the network? > > -- Caroline Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer e-mail: [4]caroline.tab...@gmail.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to [5]framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at [6]http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at [7]http://www.mail-archive.com/ framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at [8]http://lists.frameusers.com/ listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to [9]listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to [10]framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at [11]http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at [12]http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at [13]http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to [14]listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to [15]framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at [16]http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at [17]http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at [18]http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to [19]listad...@frameusers.com References 1. mailto:bern...@publishingsmarter.com 2. mailto:framers-bounces+bernard=publishingsmarter@lists.frameusers.com 3. mailto:caroline.tab...@gmail.com 4. mailto:caroline.tab...@gmail.com 5. mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com 6. http://www.frameusers.com/ 7. http://www.mail-archive.com/ 8. http://lists.frameusers.com/ 9. mailto:listad...@frameusers.com 10. mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com 11. http://www.frameusers.com/ 12. http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ 13. http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com 14. mailto:listad...@frameusers.com 15. mailto:framers@lists.frameusers.com 16. http://www.frameusers.com/ 17. http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ 18. http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com 19. mailto:listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Frame2017 slow on network??
If it is slow on the network I don't know if it's fair to blame FrameMaker specifically. It *might* be, but my best guess is the network may be the issue. I've worked with files on a slow and a fast network (or at slow and fast times at client sites) and it can make a HUGE impact on the content. I find that if the traffic is high and the network isn't supporting it (or if it's on a CCMS that is remotely hosted) the result is "slow FM" but the cause is outside of Adobe's sphere of control. Bernard -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+bernard=publishingsmarter@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Jules Harrell Sent: Friday, August 17, 2018 2:16 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: SPAM -> Re: [Framers] Frame2017 slow on network?? I had the same problem. Seems like the old FrameMaker I once knew and loved is no longer in existence. Jules On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 10:29 AM, Caroline Tabach wrote: > Hi, > > Our purchase of Frame went through. > > I am working on Frame 2017, with my files on the network > > In the past I always worked locally. > > FrameMaker seems a bit slow to me. > > Is this owing to working from the network? > > > > -- > Caroline Tabach > Technical/Marcom Writer > e-mail: caroline.tab...@gmail.com > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ > listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Frame2017 slow on network??
I had the same problem. Seems like the old FrameMaker I once knew and loved is no longer in existence. Jules On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 10:29 AM, Caroline Tabach wrote: > Hi, > > Our purchase of Frame went through. > > I am working on Frame 2017, with my files on the network > > In the past I always worked locally. > > FrameMaker seems a bit slow to me. > > Is this owing to working from the network? > > > > -- > Caroline Tabach > Technical/Marcom Writer > e-mail: caroline.tab...@gmail.com > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ > listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Frame2017 slow on network??
Yes, but it's likely two factors. First, if you're working in a book and the component files have imported by ref graphics, you're talking hundreds of files coming from the net to your box. Second, unless your company is atypical, each one of those files is virus-checked both ways, as it comes on to your box from the net and leaves your box to the server. This adds up to a heavy network load. The server, the network, your NIC, and the PC all have to be up to the task. Best fix is to work locally and use the server for backup. Subversion or source control is great. However, I don't have that option, so I store on my local Dropbox folder (so I have my own cloud backup) and use Microsoft SyncToy to sync up with the server a couple times a day. Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 12:02 PM Robert Lauriston wrote: > Working with FrameMaker files on a network drive is asking for trouble. > > To share files within a group, use Subversion or whatever source > control system you have already. > > On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 7:29 AM, Caroline Tabach > wrote: > > Hi, > > > > Our purchase of Frame went through. > > > > I am working on Frame 2017, with my files on the network > > > > In the past I always worked locally. > > > > FrameMaker seems a bit slow to me. > > > > Is this owing to working from the network? > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Frame2017 slow on network??
Working with FrameMaker files on a network drive is asking for trouble. To share files within a group, use Subversion or whatever source control system you have already. On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 7:29 AM, Caroline Tabach wrote: > Hi, > > Our purchase of Frame went through. > > I am working on Frame 2017, with my files on the network > > In the past I always worked locally. > > FrameMaker seems a bit slow to me. > > Is this owing to working from the network? ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Frame2017 slow on network??
I had my files on the network; any time I updated the book Frame would go black momentarily and "unresponsive" would display in the title bar. Putting my files on C: fixed this. Doug On Thu, Aug 16, 2018 at 10:29 AM, Caroline Tabach wrote: > Hi, > > Our purchase of Frame went through. > > I am working on Frame 2017, with my files on the network > > In the past I always worked locally. > > FrameMaker seems a bit slow to me. > > Is this owing to working from the network? > > > > -- > Caroline Tabach > Technical/Marcom Writer > e-mail: caroline.tab...@gmail.com > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/ > framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/ > listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] Frame2017 slow on network??
Hi, Our purchase of Frame went through. I am working on Frame 2017, with my files on the network In the past I always worked locally. FrameMaker seems a bit slow to me. Is this owing to working from the network? -- Caroline Tabach Technical/Marcom Writer e-mail: caroline.tab...@gmail.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
