RE: Backgrading Frame 12 to Frame 8 - Unicode issue
Is there an old substitute being used for the Aboriginal languages back in FM8? If so, maybe you could hack the MIF to sub in the old font name in place of the newer Unicode one? -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of mkopen Sent: September-16-14 8:48 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Backgrading Frame 12 to Frame 8 - Unicode issue Hello all - Working with Frame 12, I have to deliver some files to a Frame 8 user. The only option in Frame 12 is to save to version 7 *.mif. That would work if I weren't using Unicode fonts (for Canadian Aboriginal languages). As one would expect, when I open the v.7 miffed files in Frame 8, the diacritics have morphed into question marks. Not good. Suggestions would be welcome. Cheers, Mike === Michael Heine University of Western Ontario London, ON ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jeff.coatsworth%40jonasclub.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Backgrading Frame 12 to Frame 8 - Unicode issue
It's not that simple, the character encoding is different. On Wed, Sep 17, 2014 at 5:03 AM, Jeff Coatsworth jeff.coatswo...@jonasclub.com wrote: Is there an old substitute being used for the Aboriginal languages back in FM8? If so, maybe you could hack the MIF to sub in the old font name in place of the newer Unicode one? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Backgrading Frame 12 to Frame 8 - Unicode issue
Good one, thanks Robert! Frame 8 does indeed shed those mysterious Frame 12 instructions, but give me back my Unicode. Much apprecciated - Mike On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:04:07 -0700, Robert Lauriston wrote Try saving as MIF 12. FM8 may just ignore the things it doesn't recognize. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 5:48 PM, mkopen mko...@transversant.ca wrote: Hello all - Working with Frame 12, I have to deliver some files to a Frame 8 user. The only option in Frame 12 is to save to version 7 *.mif. That would work if I weren't using Unicode fonts (for Canadian Aboriginal languages). As one would expect, when I open the v.7 miffed files in Frame 8, the diacritics have morphed into question marks. Not good. Suggestions would be welcome. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Backgrading Frame 12 to Frame 8 - Unicode issue
Good one, thanks Robert! Frame 8 does indeed shed those mysterious Frame 12 instructions, but gives me back my Unicode. Much apprecciated - Mike On Tue, 16 Sep 2014 18:04:07 -0700, Robert Lauriston wrote Try saving as MIF 12. FM8 may just ignore the things it doesn't recognize. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 5:48 PM, mkopen mko...@transversant.ca wrote: Hello all - Working with Frame 12, I have to deliver some files to a Frame 8 user. The only option in Frame 12 is to save to version 7 *.mif. That would work if I weren't using Unicode fonts (for Canadian Aboriginal languages). As one would expect, when I open the v.7 miffed files in Frame 8, the diacritics have morphed into question marks. Not good. Suggestions would be welcome. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Backgrading Frame 12 to Frame 8 - Unicode issue
Hello all - Working with Frame 12, I have to deliver some files to a Frame 8 user. The only option in Frame 12 is to save to version 7 *.mif. That would work if I weren't using Unicode fonts (for Canadian Aboriginal languages). As one would expect, when I open the v.7 miffed files in Frame 8, the diacritics have morphed into question marks. Not good. Suggestions would be welcome. Cheers, Mike === Michael Heine University of Western Ontario London, ON ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Backgrading Frame 12 to Frame 8 - Unicode issue
Try saving as MIF 12. FM8 may just ignore the things it doesn't recognize. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 5:48 PM, mkopen mko...@transversant.ca wrote: Hello all - Working with Frame 12, I have to deliver some files to a Frame 8 user. The only option in Frame 12 is to save to version 7 *.mif. That would work if I weren't using Unicode fonts (for Canadian Aboriginal languages). As one would expect, when I open the v.7 miffed files in Frame 8, the diacritics have morphed into question marks. Not good. Suggestions would be welcome. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Backgrading Frame 12 to Frame 8 - Unicode issue
FrameMaker has changed an awful lot since FM8. It is probably a worthwhile investment to get your other half up to FM12 (or any 9+) at this point. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 8:48 PM, mkopen mko...@transversant.ca wrote: Hello all - Working with Frame 12, I have to deliver some files to a Frame 8 user. The only option in Frame 12 is to save to version 7 *.mif. That would work if I weren't using Unicode fonts (for Canadian Aboriginal languages). As one would expect, when I open the v.7 miffed files in Frame 8, the diacritics have morphed into question marks. Not good. Suggestions would be welcome. Cheers, Mike === Michael Heine University of Western Ontario London, ON ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as john.sgamm...@actifio.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/john.sgammato%40actifio.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- http://www.actifio.com/*John Sgammato, Documentation Architect* *e* john.sgamm...@actifio.com *c* 508.927.2083 *t* @actifiodocs http://twitter.com/actifiodocs 333 Wyman Street, Waltham, MA 02451 http://twitter.com/actifiohttp://www.linkedin.com/company/399246 https://plus.google.com/102870897962348937868/posts http://www.youtube.com/user/actifiohttp://www.actifio.com/ *Radically simple copy data management * *.* ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Backgrading Frame 12 to Frame 8 - Unicode issue
I think FM8 was more stable and bug-free than any version since then. FM9 introduced the new UI layer, which broke a lot of things that have not been fixed since. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 6:04 PM, John Sgammato john.sgamm...@actifio.com wrote: FrameMaker has changed an awful lot since FM8. It is probably a worthwhile investment to get your other half up to FM12 (or any 9+) at this point. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Backgrading Frame 12 to Frame 8 - Unicode issue
and 10 made it worse, and 11 made it better, and 12 made it much better - once you accept the new world On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 9:52 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: I think FM8 was more stable and bug-free than any version since then. FM9 introduced the new UI layer, which broke a lot of things that have not been fixed since. On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 6:04 PM, John Sgammato john.sgamm...@actifio.com wrote: FrameMaker has changed an awful lot since FM8. It is probably a worthwhile investment to get your other half up to FM12 (or any 9+) at this point. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as john.sgamm...@actifio.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/john.sgammato%40actifio.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- http://www.actifio.com/*John Sgammato, Documentation Architect* *e* john.sgamm...@actifio.com *c* 508.927.2083 *t* @actifiodocs http://twitter.com/actifiodocs 333 Wyman Street, Waltham, MA 02451 http://twitter.com/actifiohttp://www.linkedin.com/company/399246 https://plus.google.com/102870897962348937868/posts http://www.youtube.com/user/actifiohttp://www.actifio.com/ *Radically simple copy data management * *.* ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
