RE: Replace a para tag throughout book?

2009-02-23 Thread Kelly McDaniel
That's what I do...Kelly.

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From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shmuel
Wolfson
Sent: Thursday, February 19, 2009 8:51 AM
To: Fred Ridder; Framers
Subject: Re: Replace a para tag throughout book?

Good point Fred.

But you could take a dummy file which only has the new par tag (and no 
other par tags) and import the par tags from that file to all the files 
in the book. Then do the search and replace.

-- 
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133

Fred Ridder wrote:
 Responding to Diane Gaskill's question about a method of 

 propagating a new paragraph format across a book, Art 

 Campbell wrote:


   
 Yup. Just set book to the apply range and you should be all set.
 

   
 Remember that it won't remove the old tag, but the new one should be
 

   
 in place.
 

  

   
 Can this method be used to globally rename a tag across a set of
book files?
   

  

   
 Or, create one of your Callout_Large paras, then Copy Special 
 

   
 Paragraph Format.
 

   
 In the Find dialog box, specify the book range, search for
 

   
 Callout_Regular, and replace by pasting.
 

  

 Note that while this technique does paste the new tag name and

 its format properties into each file where it makes a replacement,

 it does *not* add it to the Paragraph Catalog, so that it will show

 up as an override (asterisked) in all files except the one where you

 originally applied it. And also note that it will not add the new 

 tag name and formatting at all to any file where the old tag was 

 not actually applied to a paragraph in the document, so the new

 tag may or may not be ubiquitous after using this technique. 

  

 So while this approach may be a quick and dirty alternative to using

 a script or a plug-in to do the tag renaming/replacement, you may

 ultimately find it to be a little too far on the dirty side and not as


 quick as it first seems.

  

 -Fred Ridder

  

  

  

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Re: Replace a para tag throughout book?

2009-02-23 Thread meg miranda
Another way to replace a para tag throughout a book involves using mif files 
and maybe some scripting.

1. Make mif versions of all your book files.
2. Identify the para tag string text that you want to replace. For ex. 
'Heading2'.
3. Identify the para tag string you want to replace it with. For ex. 'Heading1'.
4. Either write a script to iterate through the files and replace the para or 
open each mif file in a text editor (not frame) and do a search/replace.

I've been writing/formatting web services operations lately, and this sort of 
trick has saved me countless hours.

If you have access to WebWorks 2003, UNIX, and perl, I can help with more 
details on efficiently doing this sort of change for a doc set.

cheers,
Meg


  
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Re: Replace a para tag throughout book?

2009-02-23 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Fri, 20 Feb 2009 09:43:07 -0800 (PST), meg miranda 
megmira...@yahoo.com wrote:

If you have access to WebWorks 2003, UNIX, and perl, I can 
help with more details on efficiently doing this sort of 
change for a doc set.

Yes, this is a good approach.  But you don't need WebWorks to
get MIF for all the files in your book, including the .book
file itself.  You can do it with the *demo* version of Mif2Go,
no need to purchase.  Just set up a project with MIF as the
output format.  For MIF, the demo and registered versions
are entirely identical.

One nice feature of Mif2Go's method is that you can save
the files as MIF in a different directory, but keep the
extensions of the Frame binary files, .fm and .book.  In
addition, this does *not* alter the relative paths.  Why?
Because that way when your script is done, you can just 
drop the altered MIF files back into the original dir,
and they Just Work.  (We did this originally to allow use
of CVS to store MIF files, so diff would work on them,
and provide for easy restore.)  This saves you the extra 
step of resaving them as Frame binary at the end; as soon
as you edit one, Frame will save it in binary automatically.

The free unlimited demo version of Mif2Go is available at:
  http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm
You might want to wait until tomorrow; we're putting
a new upgrade (53) on the site later tonight.  ;-)

HTH!

-- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc.
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Re: Replace a para tag throughout book?

2009-02-19 Thread Art Campbell
Yup. Just set book to the apply range and you should be all set.
Remember that it won't remove the old tag, but the new one should be
in place.

Art

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On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:42 PM, Diane Gaskill dgcal...@earthlink.net wrote:
 Hi Art,

 Can this method be used to globally rename a tag across a set of book files?

 Thanks,
 Diane Gaskill

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 Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:33 AM
 To: Nancy Allison
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Replace a para tag throughout book?


 Or, create one of your Callout_Large paras, then Copy Special 
 Paragraph Format.
 In the Find dialog box, specify the book range, search for
 Callout_Regular, and replace by pasting.

 Art

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 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Nancy Allison ma...@verizon.net wrote:

  Ah, thank you Yves. I knew there had to be something!

 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Yves Barbion wrote:

 Hi Nancy

 Here's the wondrous plug-in:

 http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/findchangespecial/index.htm
 http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/findchangespecial/index.htm

 Cheers

 --
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 www.scripto.nu http://www.scripto.nu  • skype: yves.barbion  • T: +32
 494 12 01 89

 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Nancy Allison  ma...@verizon.net
 mailto:ma...@verizon.net  wrote:

 Hi, everyone. I've been asked to increase the point size of my callouts,
 which I have created as a paragraph tag.

 Because I cannot live an easy life (and because I am trying to create
 the perfect template), I have decided not to simply increase the point
 size of the current paragraph tag, Callout_Regular. Instead, I have
 created a new tag, Callout_Large. Seems reasonable to have two callout
 tags.

 I know I can open each file of my 22-chapter book and use Global Replace
 to change all the Callout-Regulars to Callout-Larges, but Frame won't
 let me do it at the book level. How do I do it? Copy Special? Some
 wondrous plug-in? Thanks.

 --Nancy
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RE: Replace a para tag throughout book?

2009-02-19 Thread Fred Ridder

Responding to Diane Gaskill's question about a method of 

propagating a new paragraph format across a book, Art 

Campbell wrote:


 Yup. Just set book to the apply range and you should be all set.

 Remember that it won't remove the old tag, but the new one should be

 in place.

 

  Can this method be used to globally rename a tag across a set of book files?

 

   Or, create one of your Callout_Large paras, then Copy Special 

   Paragraph Format.

   In the Find dialog box, specify the book range, search for

   Callout_Regular, and replace by pasting.

 

Note that while this technique does paste the new tag name and

its format properties into each file where it makes a replacement,

it does *not* add it to the Paragraph Catalog, so that it will show

up as an override (asterisked) in all files except the one where you

originally applied it. And also note that it will not add the new 

tag name and formatting at all to any file where the old tag was 

not actually applied to a paragraph in the document, so the new

tag may or may not be ubiquitous after using this technique. 

 

So while this approach may be a quick and dirty alternative to using

a script or a plug-in to do the tag renaming/replacement, you may

ultimately find it to be a little too far on the dirty side and not as 

quick as it first seems.

 

-Fred Ridder

 

 

 

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Re: Replace a para tag throughout book?

2009-02-19 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Good point Fred.

But you could take a dummy file which only has the new par tag (and no 
other par tags) and import the par tags from that file to all the files 
in the book. Then do the search and replace.

-- 
Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133

Fred Ridder wrote:
 Responding to Diane Gaskill's question about a method of 

 propagating a new paragraph format across a book, Art 

 Campbell wrote:


   
 Yup. Just set book to the apply range and you should be all set.
 

   
 Remember that it won't remove the old tag, but the new one should be
 

   
 in place.
 

  

   
 Can this method be used to globally rename a tag across a set of book files?
   

  

   
 Or, create one of your Callout_Large paras, then Copy Special 
 

   
 Paragraph Format.
 

   
 In the Find dialog box, specify the book range, search for
 

   
 Callout_Regular, and replace by pasting.
 

  

 Note that while this technique does paste the new tag name and

 its format properties into each file where it makes a replacement,

 it does *not* add it to the Paragraph Catalog, so that it will show

 up as an override (asterisked) in all files except the one where you

 originally applied it. And also note that it will not add the new 

 tag name and formatting at all to any file where the old tag was 

 not actually applied to a paragraph in the document, so the new

 tag may or may not be ubiquitous after using this technique. 

  

 So while this approach may be a quick and dirty alternative to using

 a script or a plug-in to do the tag renaming/replacement, you may

 ultimately find it to be a little too far on the dirty side and not as 

 quick as it first seems.

  

 -Fred Ridder

  

  

  

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Re: Replace a para tag throughout book?

2009-02-18 Thread Yves Barbion
Hi Nancy

Here's the wondrous plug-in:

http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/findchangespecial/index.htm

Cheers

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On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Nancy Allison ma...@verizon.net wrote:


 Hi, everyone. I've been asked to increase the point size of my callouts,
 which I have created as a paragraph tag.

 Because I cannot live an easy life (and because I am trying to create
 the perfect template), I have decided not to simply increase the point
 size of the current paragraph tag, Callout_Regular. Instead, I have
 created a new tag, Callout_Large. Seems reasonable to have two callout
 tags.

 I know I can open each file of my 22-chapter book and use Global Replace
 to change all the Callout-Regulars to Callout-Larges, but Frame won't
 let me do it at the book level. How do I do it? Copy Special? Some
 wondrous plug-in? Thanks.

 --Nancy
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Re: Replace a para tag throughout book?

2009-02-18 Thread Nancy Allison

  Ah, thank you Yves. I knew there had to be something!

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Yves Barbion wrote:

Hi Nancy

Here's the wondrous plug-in:

http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/findchangespecial/index.htm 
http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/findchangespecial/index.htm

Cheers

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On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Nancy Allison  ma...@verizon.net 
mailto:ma...@verizon.net  wrote:

Hi, everyone. I've been asked to increase the point size of my callouts,
which I have created as a paragraph tag.

Because I cannot live an easy life (and because I am trying to create
the perfect template), I have decided not to simply increase the point
size of the current paragraph tag, Callout_Regular. Instead, I have
created a new tag, Callout_Large. Seems reasonable to have two callout
tags.

I know I can open each file of my 22-chapter book and use Global Replace
to change all the Callout-Regulars to Callout-Larges, but Frame won't
let me do it at the book level. How do I do it? Copy Special? Some
wondrous plug-in? Thanks.

--Nancy
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Re: Replace a para tag throughout book?

2009-02-18 Thread Art Campbell
Or, create one of your Callout_Large paras, then Copy Special 
Paragraph Format.
In the Find dialog box, specify the book range, search for
Callout_Regular, and replace by pasting.

Art

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Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
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On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Nancy Allison ma...@verizon.net wrote:

  Ah, thank you Yves. I knew there had to be something!

 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Yves Barbion wrote:

 Hi Nancy

 Here's the wondrous plug-in:

 http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/findchangespecial/index.htm
 http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/findchangespecial/index.htm

 Cheers

 --
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 www.scripto.nu http://www.scripto.nu  • skype: yves.barbion  • T: +32
 494 12 01 89

 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Nancy Allison  ma...@verizon.net
 mailto:ma...@verizon.net  wrote:

 Hi, everyone. I've been asked to increase the point size of my callouts,
 which I have created as a paragraph tag.

 Because I cannot live an easy life (and because I am trying to create
 the perfect template), I have decided not to simply increase the point
 size of the current paragraph tag, Callout_Regular. Instead, I have
 created a new tag, Callout_Large. Seems reasonable to have two callout
 tags.

 I know I can open each file of my 22-chapter book and use Global Replace
 to change all the Callout-Regulars to Callout-Larges, but Frame won't
 let me do it at the book level. How do I do it? Copy Special? Some
 wondrous plug-in? Thanks.

 --Nancy
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Re: Replace a para tag throughout book?

2009-02-18 Thread Nancy Allison

  Oh, thank you, thank you, better yet, no exchange of hard-won dollars 
required!

On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:32 AM, Art Campbell wrote:

 Or, create one of your Callout_Large paras, then Copy Special 
Paragraph Format.
In the Find dialog box, specify the book range, search for
Callout_Regular, and replace by pasting.

Art

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Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
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apply.
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On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Nancy Allison ma...@verizon.net 
mailto:ma...@verizon.net   mailto:ma...@verizon.net  wrote:

   Ah, thank you Yves. I knew there had to be something!

 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Yves Barbion wrote:

 Hi Nancy

 Here's the wondrous plug-in:

 http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/findchangespecial/index.htm 
 http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/findchangespecial/index.htm   
 http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/findchangespecial/index.htm 
 http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/findchangespecial/index.htm 
 http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/findchangespecial/index.htm   
 http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/findchangespecial/index.htm 

 Cheers

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 callouts,
 which I have created as a paragraph tag.

 Because I cannot live an easy life (and because I am trying to create
 the perfect template), I have decided not to simply increase the point
 size of the current paragraph tag, Callout_Regular. Instead, I have
 created a new tag, Callout_Large. Seems reasonable to have two callout
 tags.

 I know I can open each file of my 22-chapter book and use Global 
 Replace
 to change all the Callout-Regulars to Callout-Larges, but Frame won't
 let me do it at the book level. How do I do it? Copy Special? Some
 wondrous plug-in? Thanks.

 --Nancy
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RE: Replace a para tag throughout book?

2009-02-18 Thread Diane Gaskill
Hi Art,

Can this method be used to globally rename a tag across a set of book files?

Thanks,
Diane Gaskill

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Or, create one of your Callout_Large paras, then Copy Special 
Paragraph Format.
In the Find dialog box, specify the book range, search for
Callout_Regular, and replace by pasting.

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On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:29 AM, Nancy Allison ma...@verizon.net wrote:

  Ah, thank you Yves. I knew there had to be something!

 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 10:24 AM, Yves Barbion wrote:

 Hi Nancy

 Here's the wondrous plug-in:

 http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/findchangespecial/index.htm
 http://www.frameexpert.com/plugins/findchangespecial/index.htm

 Cheers

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 www.scripto.nu http://www.scripto.nu  • skype: yves.barbion  • T: +32
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 On Wed, Feb 18, 2009 at 4:08 PM, Nancy Allison  ma...@verizon.net
 mailto:ma...@verizon.net  wrote:

 Hi, everyone. I've been asked to increase the point size of my callouts,
 which I have created as a paragraph tag.

 Because I cannot live an easy life (and because I am trying to create
 the perfect template), I have decided not to simply increase the point
 size of the current paragraph tag, Callout_Regular. Instead, I have
 created a new tag, Callout_Large. Seems reasonable to have two callout
 tags.

 I know I can open each file of my 22-chapter book and use Global Replace
 to change all the Callout-Regulars to Callout-Larges, but Frame won't
 let me do it at the book level. How do I do it? Copy Special? Some
 wondrous plug-in? Thanks.

 --Nancy
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