RE: Something that makes no sense in spell check
Hi Steve, The first thing I would do is save the file as MIF and reopen it. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing Inc. 585-659-8267 r...@frameexpert.com www.frameexpert.com http://www.frameexpert.com/peace/ FrameMaker 7.0p577, Mac OS X 10.4.11, FrameMaker files possibly with some Word dross. (Yes, i know it's an old version, best I can do at present.) The spell check stops in the space before a cross-reference, showing 'Extra space?'. There is no supernumary space in the text on screen. The objects displayed in the spell check dialog show a period followed by a character that looks like a small circle with an arrow at about 320 degrees. Neither of these objects occur in the text on screen. Repeatedly clicking 'Start checking' does not move the spell check past the offending text. Retyping the relevant text and reinserting the cross-reference does not affect this behavior. The text in the file is fine on the screen and in PDF, but the spell check is responding to something invisible in the file that appears to be resistant to removal. Anyone any ideas? This sort of thing spooks me. I am already aware of the adjudications for safe handling of material from Word, but it's far too late to redo any of this. -- Steve ___ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Something that makes no sense in spell check
At 09:50 -0500 22/12/09, Rick Quatro wrote: The first thing I would do is save the file as MIF and reopen it. Thanks Rick... but, following earlier oddities, all the files in this book have been thoroughly MIFfed. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Something that makes no sense in spell check
Steve Rickaby wrote: FrameMaker 7.0p577, Mac OS X 10.4.11, FrameMaker files possibly with some Word dross. (Yes, i know it's an old version, best I can do at present.) The spell check stops in the space before a cross-reference, showing 'Extra space?'. There is no supernumary space in the text on screen. The objects displayed in the spell check dialog show a period followed by a character that looks like a small circle with an arrow at about 320 degrees. Neither of these objects occur in the text on screen. Repeatedly clicking 'Start checking' does not move the spell check past the offending text. Retyping the relevant text and reinserting the cross-reference does not affect this behavior. The text in the file is fine on the screen and in PDF, but the spell check is responding to something invisible in the file that appears to be resistant to removal. Anyone any ideas? This sort of thing spooks me. I am already aware of the adjudications for safe handling of material from Word, but it's far too late to redo any of this. Have you tried saving as MIF and then examining the MIF file in a plain text editor? Search for the text surrounding the problem area and see if there's anything unusual. You might be able to do a find/replace operation within the text editor if you uncover some weird characters. Good luck, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com Developers explain How the Product Works. Technical writers explain How to Work the Product. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Something that makes no sense in spell check
At 10:23 -0500 22/12/09, Stuart Rogers wrote: Have you tried saving as MIF and then examining the MIF file in a plain text editor? Search for the text surrounding the problem area and see if there's anything unusual. You might be able to do a find/replace operation within the text editor if you uncover some weird characters. No: great idea. [Does that...] Here is the relevant bit of text, complete with the cross-reference and the table anchor that follows it. The spell checker stops between the words 'shown in' and the figure reference. There is nothing odd that I can see here, but I'm not an expert at reading MIF. Turning on display of non-printing characters shows nothing odd either. Which is odd... ParaLine String `channels shared by client and server. The remote procedure call can therefore implement ' # end of ParaLine ParaLine String `the interface shown in ' XRef XRefName `Figure' XRefSrcText `51945: FigureTitle: Figure 5.26:' XRefSrcIsElem No XRefSrcFile `' XRefLastUpdate 1261493773 0 Unique 1042923 # end of XRef String `Figure 5.26' XRefEnd String `. ' Font FTag `' FLanguage UKEnglish FLocked No # end of Font ATbl 45 # end of ParaLine -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Something that makes no sense in spell check
Steve Rickaby wrote: At 10:23 -0500 22/12/09, Stuart Rogers wrote: Have you tried saving as MIF and then examining the MIF file in a plain text editor? Search for the text surrounding the problem area and see if there's anything unusual. You might be able to do a find/replace operation within the text editor if you uncover some weird characters. No: great idea. [Does that...] Here is the relevant bit of text, complete with the cross-reference and the table anchor that follows it. The spell checker stops between the words 'shown in' and the figure reference. There is nothing odd that I can see here, but I'm not an expert at reading MIF. Turning on display of non-printing characters shows nothing odd either. Which is odd... ParaLine String `channels shared by client and server. The remote procedure call can therefore implement ' # end of ParaLine ParaLine String `the interface shown in ' XRef XRefName `Figure' XRefSrcText `51945: FigureTitle: Figure 5.26:' XRefSrcIsElem No XRefSrcFile `' XRefLastUpdate 1261493773 0 Unique 1042923 # end of XRef String `Figure 5.26' XRefEnd String `. ' Font FTag `' FLanguage UKEnglish FLocked No # end of Font ATbl 45 # end of ParaLine Looks perfectly normal (compared to a test file I just made). Have you tried typing something in the Correction box and clicking Correct? After that, I'm out of ideas, sorry. Good luck, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com Developers explain How the Product Works. Technical writers explain How to Work the Product. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Something that makes no sense in spell check
On Tue, 22 Dec 2009 17:27:40 +, Steve Rickaby srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk wrote: You *do* have an extra space after the period after the xref: String `. ' You might try removing it in the MIF. It might be something other than a space, though it comes across as one in the email; try replacing both chars with a real space. HTH! -- Jeremy H. Griffith, at Omni Systems Inc. jer...@omsys.com http://www.omsys.com/ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Something that makes no sense in spell check: resolved, sort of
At 12:51 -0500 22/12/09, Stuart Rogers wrote: Looks perfectly normal (compared to a test file I just made). Have you tried typing something in the Correction box and clicking Correct? After that, I'm out of ideas, sorry. The suggested correction is the non-existent period following by one space and then the weird circle character. Accepting it does not change the on-screen text *or* clear the imaginary spelling violation. Entering some random text in the correction field and clicking 'Correct' has the same result - that is, nothing changes on screen and the imaginary condition doesn't clear. I'm out of ideas too, but the book is on its way to press. I guess it just goes to prove that we come across something new every day, whether we like it or not. At 14:06 -0800 22/12/09, Jeremy H. Griffith wrote: You *do* have an extra space after the period after the xref: String `. ' Yes - and this is present in the on-screen text too. Actually whatever is there is two invisible characters. You might try removing it in the MIF. It might be something other than a space, though it comes across as one in the email; try replacing both chars with a real space. Bravo, Jeremy... fixed. There must have been something lurking in the trailing 'spaces' that didn't show up as invisibles in the text editor (nor was it removed either by zapping non-ASCII characters or zapping control characters). Editing the FrameMaker file on screen to remove the trailing 'spaces' had the same effect, clearing the imagined spelling violation. It is of interest that the spell check stopped before the xref, although the troublesome characters followed it. I guess Word is the culprit - as usual. Or poltergeists. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
