RE: Trying out CHM generation in Frame12

2014-05-08 Thread Davis, David
Thanks for the reply, Amit!

I am pleased to hear that Master Page support for CHMs is planned to be added 
to the next update - have you an idea of the rough timescale for this?
(I do not think I could migrate to Frame12 until this feature is present, I 
would need to just keep using TSC4)

I still do not quite understand the Glossary behaviour, I have replied on the 
forum

Thanks

_

David

From: Amit Jha [mailto:amit...@adobe.com]
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Subject: RE: Trying out CHM generation in Frame12


Hi David



Thanks for reporting these issues.



1.   Master page support to have boilerplate footer in each CHM topic.

We are working on this and it will be available in next update soon.



2.   Glossary options as tool tip, etc,

FM 12 support 4 types Hyperlink, popup, tooltip, expanding text for glossary.

I have replied with steps on the thread 
https://forums.adobe.com/message/6344474.

Please let me know if it is not working for you.



Thanks  Regards

Amit Jha







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Hello frameusers.

This week I've been playing with the 30 day trial of FrameMaker 12.



Most of my work at the moment has been generating HTML Help: my existing 
workflow has been with TechComm Suite 4, authoring in Frame 11, linking the 
books into RoboHelp 10 and generating CHMs from there.

I've found that workflow a bit cumbersome, and struggled quite a bit to get my 
CHM files looking the same as my Frame source (although I mostly got there in 
the end, not least with some help from others on this list...)



I'm trying to see whether I could just use Frame 12 instead, and forget about 
RoboHelp and TechComm Suite. (As I don't need the multiplicity of output 
formats the latter can produce.)



The dialog boxes for configuring CHM output from Frame 12 look very familiar ( 
:)  yes, they're straight out of RoboHelp) and I was quickly and easily able to 
achieve about 95% of what I'd been doing in TCS4.



The only 'gotcha' I have encountered is this:

Creating a CHM from Frame12 still ignores anything that was on a Master Page or 
Reference Page - so any 'boilerplate' graphics etc get ditched.

In TCS4, I'd instead used RoboHelp Master Pages to append a boilerplate 
footer to each CHM topic.

Am I right that I can't do this with Frame12 alone?  Or is there some 
workaround I'm overlooking?

(Sadly I don't think I can do without this feature, so if it can't be done in 
Frame12 alone I'll need to stick with TCS4...  TCS5 is no good as it doesn't 
have Illustrator, as many of you have already noted..)



Also, the Glossary feature in Frame12 seems to be broken - I ought to be able 
to include GlossaryTerm markers on words, and have the marker text displayed 
in the CHM as tooltips, pop-ups, etc. It doesn't appear to work though (other 
people have confirmed the same issue on the Adobe Forums). Has anyone here 
tried this successfully?





David





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RE: Trying out CHM generation in Frame12

2014-05-05 Thread Amit Jha
Hi David



Thanks for reporting these issues.



1.   Master page support to have boilerplate footer in each CHM topic.

We are working on this and it will be available in next update soon.



2.   Glossary options as tool tip, etc,

FM 12 support 4 types Hyperlink, popup, tooltip, expanding text for glossary.

I have replied with steps on the thread 
https://forums.adobe.com/message/6344474.

Please let me know if it is not working for you.



Thanks  Regards

Amit Jha







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Hello frameusers.

This week I've been playing with the 30 day trial of FrameMaker 12.



Most of my work at the moment has been generating HTML Help: my existing 
workflow has been with TechComm Suite 4, authoring in Frame 11, linking the 
books into RoboHelp 10 and generating CHMs from there.

I've found that workflow a bit cumbersome, and struggled quite a bit to get my 
CHM files looking the same as my Frame source (although I mostly got there in 
the end, not least with some help from others on this list...)



I'm trying to see whether I could just use Frame 12 instead, and forget about 
RoboHelp and TechComm Suite. (As I don't need the multiplicity of output 
formats the latter can produce.)



The dialog boxes for configuring CHM output from Frame 12 look very familiar ( 
:)  yes, they're straight out of RoboHelp) and I was quickly and easily able to 
achieve about 95% of what I'd been doing in TCS4.



The only 'gotcha' I have encountered is this:

Creating a CHM from Frame12 still ignores anything that was on a Master Page or 
Reference Page - so any 'boilerplate' graphics etc get ditched.

In TCS4, I'd instead used RoboHelp Master Pages to append a boilerplate 
footer to each CHM topic.

Am I right that I can't do this with Frame12 alone?  Or is there some 
workaround I'm overlooking?

(Sadly I don't think I can do without this feature, so if it can't be done in 
Frame12 alone I'll need to stick with TCS4...  TCS5 is no good as it doesn't 
have Illustrator, as many of you have already noted..)



Also, the Glossary feature in Frame12 seems to be broken - I ought to be able 
to include GlossaryTerm markers on words, and have the marker text displayed 
in the CHM as tooltips, pop-ups, etc. It doesn't appear to work though (other 
people have confirmed the same issue on the Adobe Forums). Has anyone here 
tried this successfully?





David





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RE: Trying out CHM generation in Frame12

2014-05-02 Thread Jeff Coatsworth
Don't let the absence of Illustrator in TCS5 put you off - just keep your older 
TCS4 version around; that's what I've done with my TCS3 version of Photoshop ;)

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Subject: Trying out CHM generation in Frame12

Hello frameusers.
This week I've been playing with the 30 day trial of FrameMaker 12.

Most of my work at the moment has been generating HTML Help: my existing 
workflow has been with TechComm Suite 4, authoring in Frame 11, linking the 
books into RoboHelp 10 and generating CHMs from there.
I've found that workflow a bit cumbersome, and struggled quite a bit to get my 
CHM files looking the same as my Frame source
(although I mostly got there in the end, not least with some help from others 
on this list...)

I'm trying to see whether I could just use Frame 12 instead, and forget about 
RoboHelp and TechComm Suite. (As I don't need the multiplicity of output 
formats the latter can produce.)

The dialog boxes for configuring CHM output from Frame 12 look very familiar ( 
:)  yes, they're straight out of RoboHelp) and I was quickly and easily able to 
achieve about 95% of what I'd been doing in TCS4.

The only 'gotcha' I have encountered is this:
Creating a CHM from Frame12 still ignores anything that was on a Master Page or 
Reference Page - so any 'boilerplate' graphics etc get ditched.
In TCS4, I'd instead used RoboHelp Master Pages to append a boilerplate 
footer to each CHM topic.
Am I right that I can't do this with Frame12 alone?  Or is there some 
workaround I'm overlooking?
(Sadly I don't think I can do without this feature, so if it can't be done in 
Frame12 alone I'll need to stick with TCS4...  TCS5 is no good as it doesn't 
have Illustrator, as many of you have already noted..)

Also, the Glossary feature in Frame12 seems to be broken - I ought to be able 
to include GlossaryTerm markers on words, and have the marker text displayed 
in the CHM as tooltips, pop-ups, etc. It doesn't appear to work though (other 
people have confirmed the same issue on the Adobe Forums). Has anyone here 
tried this successfully?


David


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Trying out CHM generation in Frame12

2014-05-01 Thread Davis, David
Hello frameusers.
This week I've been playing with the 30 day trial of FrameMaker 12.

Most of my work at the moment has been generating HTML Help: my existing 
workflow has been with TechComm Suite 4, authoring in Frame 11, linking the 
books into RoboHelp 10 and generating CHMs from there.
I've found that workflow a bit cumbersome, and struggled quite a bit to get my 
CHM files looking the same as my Frame source
(although I mostly got there in the end, not least with some help from others 
on this list...)

I'm trying to see whether I could just use Frame 12 instead, and forget about 
RoboHelp and TechComm Suite. (As I don't need the multiplicity of output 
formats the latter can produce.)

The dialog boxes for configuring CHM output from Frame 12 look very familiar ( 
:)  yes, they're straight out of RoboHelp) and I was quickly and easily able to 
achieve about 95% of what I'd been doing in TCS4.

The only 'gotcha' I have encountered is this:
Creating a CHM from Frame12 still ignores anything that was on a Master Page or 
Reference Page - so any 'boilerplate' graphics etc get ditched.
In TCS4, I'd instead used RoboHelp Master Pages to append a boilerplate 
footer to each CHM topic.
Am I right that I can't do this with Frame12 alone?  Or is there some 
workaround I'm overlooking?
(Sadly I don't think I can do without this feature, so if it can't be done in 
Frame12 alone I'll need to stick with TCS4...  TCS5 is no good as it doesn't 
have Illustrator, as many of you have already noted..)

Also, the Glossary feature in Frame12 seems to be broken - I ought to be able 
to include GlossaryTerm markers on words, and have the marker text displayed 
in the CHM as tooltips, pop-ups, etc. It doesn't appear to work though (other 
people have confirmed the same issue on the Adobe Forums). Has anyone here 
tried this successfully?


David


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