Re: [Framers] FM on Next - question from a nostalgic person Was: Framers Digest, Vol 171, Issue 8
Before continuing this thread, please make sure to replace the Subject "[Framers] Framers Digest, Vol 171, Issue 8" with Subject "FM on Next - question from a nostalgic person" so that the thread archives correctly and responses can be searched for. When replying to messages, digest users should be careful to trim the digest to just a sentence or two and to change the subject. Thanks. Carol Elkins List Mom At 02:26 PM 6/18/2020, Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: Date: Thu, 18 Jun 2020 20:26:24 + Subject: Re: [Framers] Framers Digest, Vol 171, Issue 8 Phillip Norman wrote: > I address this conversation with wish the simple nearly-free tools I use, should be packaged for a large new set of users, for purchase at very small cost. If Adobe isn't interested, look for other possibilities. Indeed! I still receive this list because I am (a) a relatively early FrameMaker user - started in 1988 on a Sun 3/50, so nostalgia applies to me, and (b) still occasionally fire up version FM 12 to make *small* changes to existing older FM documents. Otherwise, due to the high cost of "upgrading" FM decision by Adobe form FM 15 onwards, I moved away from their tools some time back. Now, the last one is Acrobat Pro and I am trying other PDF tools to evaluate them as functional replacements - so far, the SoftMaker PDF tool appears to be working pretty well for my needs. My choices - and this will NOT necessarily be applicable to others for their documents, of course! - was to switch to LaTeX markup for all *my* specification documents (using a very nice editor for relatively instant and easy check of the PDF output), and various Magix/Xara tools for image editing, video editing, and brochures. The Magix/Xara tools are not free, but very low-cost, and much less expensive than Adobe ... including upgrades. I am happy with those decisions ... indeed, the experience has made me look for other lower-cost products too. So, I am also evaluating SoftMaker Office as an alternative to Microsoft tools that I still use (for presentation and spreadsheets for example). Z ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FM on Next - question from a nostalgic person
I'm pretty sure FrameMaker 3.0 will work only with legacy fonts. If you like NextStep, you ought to like OS X / MacOS. It's a direct descendant and quite recognizable as such. Lots of scorewriter / music notation software. My main problem with NextStep is that I had to use the mouse for everything. It felt like their design guideline was "never type when you can click, never click when you can click and drag." Using the mouse so much gave me a bone spur that messed up my rotator cuff. On Wed, Jun 17, 2020 at 3:18 AM Ralf Kohler wrote: > ... By the way, I really want to work with it, so it's not pure nostalgia. During the covid-19 lockdown I have sketched a music theory book which I would like to develop now further in the next month to come. I still use NextSTEP to this day because I still consider the GUI to be unsurpassed in its simplicity and functionality. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FM on Next - question from a nostalgic person
Dear List, Klaus Daube was so friendly to pass on my question. So far I am very grateful for the feedback. It helped me formulate my question more concisely: I am looking for the two tutorials “Learning FrameMaker” and “Using FrameMaker”. Both have been published by Frame Technology in 1989. From what I can see looking in the world cat database, there has been a general UNIX edition but not a specific NeXTSTEP one. Is that correct, or does anybody remember otherwise? I will try to get this issue through interlibrary loan in my local library. But if someone happens to have an e-book, I would be very grateful if I could borrow it. By the way, I really want to work with it, so it's not pure nostalgia. During the covid-19 lockdown I have sketched a music theory book which I would like to develop now further in the next month to come. I still use NextSTEP to this day because I still consider the GUI to be unsurpassed in its simplicity and functionality. Regards, Ralf > On 16. Jun 2020, at 02:07, Robert Lauriston wrote: > > There was an external SCSI CD-ROM drive later on. > > http://www.kevra.org/TheBestOfNext/NeXTProducts/NeXTHardware/ExternalCD-ROM-Drive/files/page624_2.pdf > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 5:01 PM Fred Ridder wrote: >> >> Actually, the original NeXT computer was designed before CD-ROM was >> standardized. The so-called Yellow Book that contained the CD-ROM standards >> was published in 1988, the same year that the NeXT was introduced. Instead, >> the original NeXT computer came with a magneto-optical disc drive that used >> removable disc cartridges as both the primary storage and the external media >> device while a magnetic hard drive was an option. >> >> In 1990, the second generation NeXT -- the one that was officially named the >> NeXTcube -- dropped the MO drive in favor of a conventional hard disc as the >> primary storage. A 3.5" HD floppy drive was available as an option and every >> cube I saw was fitted with one. The NeXTstation (the pizza box) came with a >> 3.5" floppy standard. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FM on Next - question from a nostalgic person
There was an external SCSI CD-ROM drive later on. http://www.kevra.org/TheBestOfNext/NeXTProducts/NeXTHardware/ExternalCD-ROM-Drive/files/page624_2.pdf On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 5:01 PM Fred Ridder wrote: > > Actually, the original NeXT computer was designed before CD-ROM was > standardized. The so-called Yellow Book that contained the CD-ROM standards > was published in 1988, the same year that the NeXT was introduced. Instead, > the original NeXT computer came with a magneto-optical disc drive that used > removable disc cartridges as both the primary storage and the external media > device while a magnetic hard drive was an option. > > In 1990, the second generation NeXT -- the one that was officially named the > NeXTcube -- dropped the MO drive in favor of a conventional hard disc as the > primary storage. A 3.5" HD floppy drive was available as an option and every > cube I saw was fitted with one. The NeXTstation (the pizza box) came with a > 3.5" floppy standard. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FM on Next - question from a nostalgic person
Actually, the original NeXT computer was designed before CD-ROM was standardized. The so-called Yellow Book that contained the CD-ROM standards was published in 1988, the same year that the NeXT was introduced. Instead, the original NeXT computer came with a magneto-optical disc drive that used removable disc cartridges as both the primary storage and the external media device while a magnetic hard drive was an option. In 1990, the second generation NeXT -- the one that was officially named the NeXTcube -- dropped the MO drive in favor of a conventional hard disc as the primary storage. A 3.5" HD floppy drive was available as an option and every cube I saw was fitted with one. The NeXTstation (the pizza box) came with a 3.5" floppy standard. -FR From: Framers on behalf of Grant Hogarth Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 6:53 PM To: Robert Lauriston Cc: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. ; Ralf Kohler Subject: Re: [Framers] FM on Next - question from a nostalgic person Well, Huh! Guess my memory isn't all that reliable. I had it in my head that the NeXT only had a CDROM drive for external media. Thanks for this, Robert. On 6/15/20 2:16 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > FM3 for NextStep came on five floppy disks. > > https://fsck.technology/software/NeXT/NeXTSTEP%20Applications/Framemaker%203.0%20NeXTSTEP/ > > On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 12:39 PM Grant Hogarth wrote: >> As one of the writers who wrote the documentation for that generation of >> FM (Chris Despopoulos was part of that crew), I recall that most of the >> documentation was included on the delivery media (for NeXT, that would >> have been a CD). Unfortunately, I don't have (that I know of), a copy >> any more. As Robert Lauriston notes, that documentation should be in the >> FrameMaker directories (under "Manuals", as I recall). ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FM on Next - question from a nostalgic person
Well, Huh! Guess my memory isn't all that reliable. I had it in my head that the NeXT only had a CDROM drive for external media. Thanks for this, Robert. On 6/15/20 2:16 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: FM3 for NextStep came on five floppy disks. https://fsck.technology/software/NeXT/NeXTSTEP%20Applications/Framemaker%203.0%20NeXTSTEP/ On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 12:39 PM Grant Hogarth wrote: As one of the writers who wrote the documentation for that generation of FM (Chris Despopoulos was part of that crew), I recall that most of the documentation was included on the delivery media (for NeXT, that would have been a CD). Unfortunately, I don't have (that I know of), a copy any more. As Robert Lauriston notes, that documentation should be in the FrameMaker directories (under "Manuals", as I recall). ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FM on Next - question from a nostalgic person
FM3 for NextStep came on five floppy disks. https://fsck.technology/software/NeXT/NeXTSTEP%20Applications/Framemaker%203.0%20NeXTSTEP/ On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 12:39 PM Grant Hogarth wrote: > > As one of the writers who wrote the documentation for that generation of > FM (Chris Despopoulos was part of that crew), I recall that most of the > documentation was included on the delivery media (for NeXT, that would > have been a CD). Unfortunately, I don't have (that I know of), a copy > any more. As Robert Lauriston notes, that documentation should be in the > FrameMaker directories (under "Manuals", as I recall). ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FM on Next - question from a nostalgic person
As one of the writers who wrote the documentation for that generation of FM (Chris Despopoulos was part of that crew), I recall that most of the documentation was included on the delivery media (for NeXT, that would have been a CD). Unfortunately, I don't have (that I know of), a copy any more. As Robert Lauriston notes, that documentation should be in the FrameMaker directories (under "Manuals", as I recall). Good luck! On 6/15/20 12:23 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: I wrote software reviews for Nextworld back in those days, and I don't recall any printed documentation. The documentation for the operating system, FrameMaker, etc. was all on disk. If you rummage around in the FrameMaker directories, you should find it somewhere. Next's own docs are online: http://www.nextcomputers.org/NeXTfiles/Docs/ NextStep is still in development. The latest release is MacOS 10.15. On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 8:53 AM Klaus Daube wrote: Dear friends I got the following mail (see the original at the end): My name is Dr Ralf Alexander Kohler and by chance I visited your website. Although, technically, it wasn't a coincidence at all, because I was searching the Internet for documentation for FrameMaker 3.2 20 years ago I bought a NextStation with Framemaker 3.2 installed. The plan at the time was to use it to write my dissertation. Unfortunately, the computer broke down and I had to switch to Linux/Latex. But now I have succeeded to build a Next computer emulation with the exact working environment I had back then. While it's not more than just a gimmick, I still would like to continue using FrameMaker. Now my question: Do you happen to know if there is any documentation for NextStation at all? And if so, how can I get it? I only found documentation for FM version 5.0 on the net, but not anything to Next Computer. I would be very interested in your answer. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FM on Next - question from a nostalgic person
I wrote software reviews for Nextworld back in those days, and I don't recall any printed documentation. The documentation for the operating system, FrameMaker, etc. was all on disk. If you rummage around in the FrameMaker directories, you should find it somewhere. Next's own docs are online: http://www.nextcomputers.org/NeXTfiles/Docs/ NextStep is still in development. The latest release is MacOS 10.15. On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 8:53 AM Klaus Daube wrote: > > Dear friends > I got the following mail (see the original at the end): > > > My name is Dr Ralf Alexander Kohler and by chance I visited your website. > > Although, technically, it wasn't a coincidence at all, because I was > > searching > > the Internet for documentation for FrameMaker 3.2 20 years ago I bought a > > NextStation with Framemaker 3.2 installed. The plan at the time was to use > > it to > > write my dissertation. Unfortunately, the computer broke down and I had to > > switch to Linux/Latex. But now I have succeeded to build a Next computer > > emulation with the exact working environment I had back then. While it's not > > more than just a gimmick, I still would like to continue using FrameMaker. > > Now > > my question: Do you happen to know if there is any documentation for > > NextStation > > at all? And if so, how can I get it? I only found documentation for FM > > version > > 5.0 on the net, but not anything to Next Computer. I would be very > > interested in > > your answer. ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FM on Next - question from a nostalgic person
There is a copy of FM4 Windows (sealed in the box) on ebay for $15.99 (or best offer); I'd offer them $5. Also, there is a copy of The Frame Handbook by Linda Branagan (circa 1994) for less than $11 w/free shipping. I have seen the Branagan book in some college libraries. My recollection is that is slanted to UNIX. Craig ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] FM on Next - question from a nostalgic person
Since NeXTSTEP OS was based on UNIX, I think the Unix FM manual instructions probably cover most of the functioning of the FM program. One thing to watch out for in such an old version of FrameMaker is the 'grey box' problem that used to crop up where graphics would suddenly become grey boxes. That problem gave us all fits back then in the early 90s This can be solved by increasing the temp space allocated to the user. Something would max out the temp space, and BOOM, grey boxes. Good luck. FM5 is pretty close in features. You can look at the feature set difference between the two versions and that will tell you what to ignore in the manual. I do have a set of those manuals in English, but they are a couple of hundred miles away at this time. Craig From: Framers on behalf of Lin Sims Sent: Monday, June 15, 2020 12:32 PM To: kl...@daube.ch ; An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] FM on Next - question from a nostalgic person Is he asking for documentation on the Nextstation itself, or for *FrameMaker for* the Nextstation? On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 12:18 PM Klaus Daube wrote: > Dear friends > I got the following mail (see the original at the end): > > > My name is Dr Ralf Alexander Kohler and by chance I visited your website. > > Although, technically, it wasn't a coincidence at all, because I was > searching > > the Internet for documentation for FrameMaker 3.2 20 years ago I bought > a > > NextStation with Framemaker 3.2 installed. The plan at the time was to > use it to > > write my dissertation. Unfortunately, the computer broke down and I had > to > > switch to Linux/Latex. But now I have succeeded to build a Next computer > > emulation with the exact working environment I had back then. While it's > not > > more than just a gimmick, I still would like to continue using > FrameMaker. Now > > my question: Do you happen to know if there is any documentation for > NextStation > > at all? And if so, how can I get it? I only found documentation for FM > version > > 5.0 on the net, but not anything to Next Computer. I would be very > interested in > > your answer. > > Has anybody of you old hares something hidden in the book shelves? > I would volunteer to scan it and send the paper back (as a retired person > i have time > for such). > > Thank you > Klaus > > > Mein Name ist Dr Ralf Alexander Kohler und ich bin durch Zufall auf Ihre > website > gestoßen. Wobei es genau genommen gar kein Zufall war, denn ich habe mit > einer > Suchmaschine im Internet nach einer Dokumentation für FrameMaker 3.2 > gesucht. > Ich habe vor 20 Jahren eine gebrauche NextStation gekauft, die dieses > Programm > installiert hatte. Der Plan war damals, meine Doktorarbeit damit zu > schreiben. > Leider hat der Rechner vorher seinen Geist aufgegeben und ich bin dann auf > Linux/Latex umgestiegen. Nun ist es mir aber gelungen, einen Next Rechner > zu > emulieren mit genau der Arbeitsumgebung, die ich damals hatte. Es ist zwar > nicht > mehr als eine Spielerei, aber dennoch würde ich mich gerne weiter mit dem > Programm FrameMaker beschäftigen. Nun meine Frage: Wissen Sie zufällig, ob > es > für Next Rechner überhaupt eine Dokumentation gab? Und wenn ja, wie wurde > diese vertrieben? Ich habe im Netz nur Dokumentationen zu Version 5.0 > gefunden, > nicht aber irgendetwas zu Next Computer. Ich würde mich sehr auf Ihre > Antwort > freuen. > Herzlichst, > Ralf Alexander Kohler > > ~~ > Klaus Daube Phone: +41-44-381 37 77 > Schäracher 11 Mail: kl...@daube.ch > CH-8053 Zürich Web:www.daube.ch<http://www.daube.ch> > > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameuse
Re: [Framers] FM on Next - question from a nostalgic person
Is he asking for documentation on the Nextstation itself, or for *FrameMaker for* the Nextstation? On Mon, Jun 15, 2020 at 12:18 PM Klaus Daube wrote: > Dear friends > I got the following mail (see the original at the end): > > > My name is Dr Ralf Alexander Kohler and by chance I visited your website. > > Although, technically, it wasn't a coincidence at all, because I was > searching > > the Internet for documentation for FrameMaker 3.2 20 years ago I bought > a > > NextStation with Framemaker 3.2 installed. The plan at the time was to > use it to > > write my dissertation. Unfortunately, the computer broke down and I had > to > > switch to Linux/Latex. But now I have succeeded to build a Next computer > > emulation with the exact working environment I had back then. While it's > not > > more than just a gimmick, I still would like to continue using > FrameMaker. Now > > my question: Do you happen to know if there is any documentation for > NextStation > > at all? And if so, how can I get it? I only found documentation for FM > version > > 5.0 on the net, but not anything to Next Computer. I would be very > interested in > > your answer. > > Has anybody of you old hares something hidden in the book shelves? > I would volunteer to scan it and send the paper back (as a retired person > i have time > for such). > > Thank you > Klaus > > > Mein Name ist Dr Ralf Alexander Kohler und ich bin durch Zufall auf Ihre > website > gestoßen. Wobei es genau genommen gar kein Zufall war, denn ich habe mit > einer > Suchmaschine im Internet nach einer Dokumentation für FrameMaker 3.2 > gesucht. > Ich habe vor 20 Jahren eine gebrauche NextStation gekauft, die dieses > Programm > installiert hatte. Der Plan war damals, meine Doktorarbeit damit zu > schreiben. > Leider hat der Rechner vorher seinen Geist aufgegeben und ich bin dann auf > Linux/Latex umgestiegen. Nun ist es mir aber gelungen, einen Next Rechner > zu > emulieren mit genau der Arbeitsumgebung, die ich damals hatte. Es ist zwar > nicht > mehr als eine Spielerei, aber dennoch würde ich mich gerne weiter mit dem > Programm FrameMaker beschäftigen. Nun meine Frage: Wissen Sie zufällig, ob > es > für Next Rechner überhaupt eine Dokumentation gab? Und wenn ja, wie wurde > diese vertrieben? Ich habe im Netz nur Dokumentationen zu Version 5.0 > gefunden, > nicht aber irgendetwas zu Next Computer. Ich würde mich sehr auf Ihre > Antwort > freuen. > Herzlichst, > Ralf Alexander Kohler > > ~~ > Klaus Daube Phone: +41-44-381 37 77 > Schäracher 11 Mail: kl...@daube.ch > CH-8053 Zürich Web:www.daube.ch > > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > -- Lin Sims ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] FM on Next - question from a nostalgic person
Dear friends I got the following mail (see the original at the end): > My name is Dr Ralf Alexander Kohler and by chance I visited your website. > Although, technically, it wasn't a coincidence at all, because I was searching > the Internet for documentation for FrameMaker 3.2 20 years ago I bought a > NextStation with Framemaker 3.2 installed. The plan at the time was to use it > to > write my dissertation. Unfortunately, the computer broke down and I had to > switch to Linux/Latex. But now I have succeeded to build a Next computer > emulation with the exact working environment I had back then. While it's not > more than just a gimmick, I still would like to continue using FrameMaker. Now > my question: Do you happen to know if there is any documentation for > NextStation > at all? And if so, how can I get it? I only found documentation for FM version > 5.0 on the net, but not anything to Next Computer. I would be very interested > in > your answer. Has anybody of you old hares something hidden in the book shelves? I would volunteer to scan it and send the paper back (as a retired person i have time for such). Thank you Klaus Mein Name ist Dr Ralf Alexander Kohler und ich bin durch Zufall auf Ihre website gestoßen. Wobei es genau genommen gar kein Zufall war, denn ich habe mit einer Suchmaschine im Internet nach einer Dokumentation für FrameMaker 3.2 gesucht. Ich habe vor 20 Jahren eine gebrauche NextStation gekauft, die dieses Programm installiert hatte. Der Plan war damals, meine Doktorarbeit damit zu schreiben. Leider hat der Rechner vorher seinen Geist aufgegeben und ich bin dann auf Linux/Latex umgestiegen. Nun ist es mir aber gelungen, einen Next Rechner zu emulieren mit genau der Arbeitsumgebung, die ich damals hatte. Es ist zwar nicht mehr als eine Spielerei, aber dennoch würde ich mich gerne weiter mit dem Programm FrameMaker beschäftigen. Nun meine Frage: Wissen Sie zufällig, ob es für Next Rechner überhaupt eine Dokumentation gab? Und wenn ja, wie wurde diese vertrieben? Ich habe im Netz nur Dokumentationen zu Version 5.0 gefunden, nicht aber irgendetwas zu Next Computer. Ich würde mich sehr auf Ihre Antwort freuen. Herzlichst, Ralf Alexander Kohler ~~ Klaus Daube Phone: +41-44-381 37 77 Schäracher 11 Mail: kl...@daube.ch CH-8053 Zürich Web:www.daube.ch ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
