Re: [Framers] Numbering in an outline with numbers and small letters

2017-06-28 Thread Lin Sims
In addition to Rick's videos, try running a search for FrameMaker
autonumbering PDFs written by Dan Emory or Lester Smalley. Both provided
excellent overviews and examples of setting up autonumbering from simple to
pretty danged complex. They are out of date (chapter and section numbers
came out years after they were written), but they're still good
foundational documents.

On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 3:43 PM, Rick Quatro  wrote:

> Hi David,
>
> The letter-colon combination is called a series label. But in this case
> you don't want to have a different series label for each format. When more
> than one format has numbering that is related, they should have the same
> series label. See my videos for details.
>
> Rick
>
> -Original Message-
> From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro.com@lists.
> frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Spreadbury
> Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 3:28 PM
> To: tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: [Framers] Numbering in an outline with numbers and small
> letters
>
> Try changing where you have F: to a different letter; F for the first one,
> G for the secong, etc. Each numbering value should have it's own unique
> character. There is a name for that character but it escapes me right now.
>
> Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android
>
>   On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 2:11 PM, tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com<
> tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com> wrote:   This one has me stumped, and I
> have to believe that there is a pretty
> simple solution that I'm overlooking.
>
> I have a figure legend that has both numbered and lettered entries. Level
> 1 items are  numerals and Level 2 items are small letters. This works
> fine, as long as the level 2 items are the last items in the ordered list.
> However, if the level 2 items happen to appear in the middle somewhere,
> such as 1, 2, followed by a, b, and c, and then back to level 1 at 3, the
> ordering doesn't pick back at 3. Instead, I get 6, as in 1, 2, a, b, c
> (under 2), and 6.
>
> What do I need to do to have that 3rd level 1 item number continue from
> the last level 1 tag?
>
> For reference, here is what I have for tag coding.
>
> FigureLegend covers all level 1 numbers, as well as all that follow: F:<
> >< >.\t
>
>
> FigureLegend_alpha covers the first level 2 item, indented slightly under
> the level 1 item: F:< >< >.\sn\t
>
>
>
> FIgurelegend_alpa+ covers all level 2 items that follow the item tagged
> with the FigureLegend_alpha tag: F:< >< >.\sn\t
>
>
>
>
>
> Tom Beiswenger
> Project Manager, Manager IB Technical Documentation
>
> Emhart Glass Inc.
> 74 Kahler Road North ? Horseheads NY 14845 ? USA
> Telephone 1 607 735 2551 ? Mobile +1 607 769 4779
> Fax +1 607 735 2601
> tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com
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Re: [Framers] Numbering in an outline with numbers and small letters

2017-06-28 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi David,

The letter-colon combination is called a series label. But in this case you 
don't want to have a different series label for each format. When more than one 
format has numbering that is related, they should have the same series label. 
See my videos for details.

Rick

-Original Message-
From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] 
On Behalf Of David Spreadbury
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 3:28 PM
To: tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Numbering in an outline with numbers and small letters

Try changing where you have F: to a different letter; F for the first one, G 
for the secong, etc. Each numbering value should have it's own unique 
character. There is a name for that character but it escapes me right now.

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 2:11 PM, 
tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com wrote:   This 
one has me stumped, and I have to believe that there is a pretty 
simple solution that I'm overlooking.

I have a figure legend that has both numbered and lettered entries. Level
1 items are  numerals and Level 2 items are small letters. This works fine, as 
long as the level 2 items are the last items in the ordered list. 
However, if the level 2 items happen to appear in the middle somewhere, such as 
1, 2, followed by a, b, and c, and then back to level 1 at 3, the ordering 
doesn't pick back at 3. Instead, I get 6, as in 1, 2, a, b, c (under 2), and 6.

What do I need to do to have that 3rd level 1 item number continue from the 
last level 1 tag?

For reference, here is what I have for tag coding.

FigureLegend covers all level 1 numbers, as well as all that follow: F:< 
>< >.\t


FigureLegend_alpha covers the first level 2 item, indented slightly under the 
level 1 item: F:< >< >.\sn\t



FIgurelegend_alpa+ covers all level 2 items that follow the item tagged 
with the FigureLegend_alpha tag: F:< >< >.\sn\t





Tom Beiswenger
Project Manager, Manager IB Technical Documentation

Emhart Glass Inc. 
74 Kahler Road North ? Horseheads NY 14845 ? USA
Telephone 1 607 735 2551 ? Mobile +1 607 769 4779
Fax +1 607 735 2601
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Re: [Framers] Numbering in an outline with numbers and small letters

2017-06-28 Thread Rick Quatro
 should be . The 1 doesn't have any effect on the counter.

-Original Message-
From: Framers
[mailto:framers-bounces+rick=rickquatro@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf
Of Lin Sims
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 3:17 PM
To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.
Subject: Re: [Framers] Numbering in an outline with numbers and small
letters

You need to add one more level to the F:< >< >.\sn\t.

It should be

F:< >< >*< >*.\sn\t


On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 3:10 PM,  wrote:

> This one has me stumped, and I have to believe that there is a pretty 
> simple solution that I'm overlooking.
>
> I have a figure legend that has both numbered and lettered entries. 
> Level
> 1 items are  numerals and Level 2 items are small letters. This works 
> fine, as long as the level 2 items are the last items in the ordered list.
> However, if the level 2 items happen to appear in the middle 
> somewhere, such as 1, 2, followed by a, b, and c, and then back to 
> level 1 at 3, the ordering doesn't pick back at 3. Instead, I get 6, 
> as in 1, 2, a, b, c (under 2), and 6.
>
> What do I need to do to have that 3rd level 1 item number continue 
> from the last level 1 tag?
>
> For reference, here is what I have for tag coding.
>
> FigureLegend covers all level 1 numbers, as well as all that follow: 
> F:<
> >< >.\t
>
>
> FigureLegend_alpha covers the first level 2 item, indented slightly 
> under the level 1 item: F:< >< >.\sn\t
>
>
>
> FIgurelegend_alpa+ covers all level 2 items that follow the item 
> tagged with the FigureLegend_alpha tag: F:< >< >.\sn\t
>
>
>
>
>
> Tom Beiswenger
> Project Manager, Manager IB Technical Documentation
>
> Emhart Glass Inc.
> 74 Kahler Road North ? Horseheads NY 14845 ? USA Telephone 1 607 735 
> 2551 ? Mobile +1 607 769 4779 Fax +1 607 735 2601 
> tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com www.bucheremhartglass.com 
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Re: [Framers] Numbering in an outline with numbers and small letters

2017-06-28 Thread David Spreadbury
Try changing where you have F: to a different letter; F for the first one, G 
for the secong, etc. Each numbering value should have it's own unique 
character. There is a name for that character but it escapes me right now.

Sent from Yahoo Mail on Android 
 
  On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 2:11 PM, 
tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com wrote:   This 
one has me stumped, and I have to believe that there is a pretty 
simple solution that I'm overlooking.

I have a figure legend that has both numbered and lettered entries. Level 
1 items are  numerals and Level 2 items are small letters. This works 
fine, as long as the level 2 items are the last items in the ordered list. 
However, if the level 2 items happen to appear in the middle somewhere, 
such as 1, 2, followed by a, b, and c, and then back to level 1 at 3, the 
ordering doesn't pick back at 3. Instead, I get 6, as in 1, 2, a, b, c 
(under 2), and 6.

What do I need to do to have that 3rd level 1 item number continue from 
the last level 1 tag?

For reference, here is what I have for tag coding.

FigureLegend covers all level 1 numbers, as well as all that follow: F:< 
>< >.\t


FigureLegend_alpha covers the first level 2 item, indented slightly under 
the level 1 item: F:< >< >.\sn\t



FIgurelegend_alpa+ covers all level 2 items that follow the item tagged 
with the FigureLegend_alpha tag: F:< >< >.\sn\t





Tom Beiswenger
Project Manager, Manager IB Technical Documentation

Emhart Glass Inc. 
74 Kahler Road North ? Horseheads NY 14845 ? USA
Telephone 1 607 735 2551 ? Mobile +1 607 769 4779
Fax +1 607 735 2601
tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com
www.bucheremhartglass.com
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Re: [Framers] Numbering in an outline with numbers and small letters

2017-06-28 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Tom,

Try something like this:

FigureLegend:
F:< >< >< =0>

FigureLegend_alpha:
F:< >< >< >

Without seeing the rest of the numbering, I am not sure if you need the
first two place holders (< >) in each one.

For a good understanding of FrameMaker autonumbers, you should watch my 20
minute video:

http://frameautomation.com/framemaker-autonumber-primer/

Then, watch this follow up video, which is about 16 minutes:

http://frameautomation.com/advanced-autonumber-concepts/

In just over a half-an-hour, you will be an autonumber expert!

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
r...@frameexpert.com
585-366-4017






-Original Message-
From: Framers
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Of tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com
Sent: Wednesday, June 28, 2017 3:11 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: [Framers] Numbering in an outline with numbers and small letters

This one has me stumped, and I have to believe that there is a pretty simple
solution that I'm overlooking.

I have a figure legend that has both numbered and lettered entries. Level
1 items are  numerals and Level 2 items are small letters. This works fine,
as long as the level 2 items are the last items in the ordered list. 
However, if the level 2 items happen to appear in the middle somewhere, such
as 1, 2, followed by a, b, and c, and then back to level 1 at 3, the
ordering doesn't pick back at 3. Instead, I get 6, as in 1, 2, a, b, c
(under 2), and 6.

What do I need to do to have that 3rd level 1 item number continue from the
last level 1 tag?

For reference, here is what I have for tag coding.

FigureLegend covers all level 1 numbers, as well as all that follow: F:< 
>< >.\t


FigureLegend_alpha covers the first level 2 item, indented slightly under
the level 1 item: F:< >< >.\sn\t



FIgurelegend_alpa+ covers all level 2 items that follow the item tagged 
with the FigureLegend_alpha tag: F:< >< >.\sn\t





Tom Beiswenger
Project Manager, Manager IB Technical Documentation

Emhart Glass Inc. 
74 Kahler Road North ? Horseheads NY 14845 ? USA
Telephone 1 607 735 2551 ? Mobile +1 607 769 4779
Fax +1 607 735 2601
tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com
www.bucheremhartglass.com
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Re: [Framers] Numbering in an outline with numbers and small letters

2017-06-28 Thread tom . beiswenger
Thanks, Lin!  knew it had to be something simple.



Tom Beiswenger
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Emhart Glass Inc. 
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www.bucheremhartglass.com
www.bucherindustries.com



From:   Lin Sims 
To: "An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software." 

Date:   06/28/2017 03:16 PM
Subject:Re: [Framers] Numbering in an outline with numbers and 
small letters
Sent by:"Framers" 




You need to add one more level to the F:< >< >.\sn\t.

It should be

F:< >< >*< >*.\sn\t


On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 3:10 PM,  wrote:

> This one has me stumped, and I have to believe that there is a pretty
> simple solution that I'm overlooking.
>
> I have a figure legend that has both numbered and lettered entries. 
Level
> 1 items are  numerals and Level 2 items are small letters. This works
> fine, as long as the level 2 items are the last items in the ordered 
list.
> However, if the level 2 items happen to appear in the middle somewhere,
> such as 1, 2, followed by a, b, and c, and then back to level 1 at 3, 
the
> ordering doesn't pick back at 3. Instead, I get 6, as in 1, 2, a, b, c
> (under 2), and 6.
>
> What do I need to do to have that 3rd level 1 item number continue from
> the last level 1 tag?
>
> For reference, here is what I have for tag coding.
>
> FigureLegend covers all level 1 numbers, as well as all that follow: F:<
> >< >.\t
>
>
> FigureLegend_alpha covers the first level 2 item, indented slightly 
under
> the level 1 item: F:< >< >.\sn\t
>
>
>
> FIgurelegend_alpa+ covers all level 2 items that follow the item tagged
> with the FigureLegend_alpha tag: F:< >< >.\sn\t
>
>
>
>
>
> Tom Beiswenger
> Project Manager, Manager IB Technical Documentation
>
> Emhart Glass Inc.
> 74 Kahler Road North ? Horseheads NY 14845 ? USA
> Telephone 1 607 735 2551 ? Mobile +1 607 769 4779
> Fax +1 607 735 2601
> tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com
> www.bucheremhartglass.com
> www.bucherindustries.com
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Re: [Framers] Numbering in an outline with numbers and small letters

2017-06-28 Thread Lin Sims
You need to add one more level to the F:< >< >.\sn\t.

It should be

F:< >< >*< >*.\sn\t


On Wed, Jun 28, 2017 at 3:10 PM,  wrote:

> This one has me stumped, and I have to believe that there is a pretty
> simple solution that I'm overlooking.
>
> I have a figure legend that has both numbered and lettered entries. Level
> 1 items are  numerals and Level 2 items are small letters. This works
> fine, as long as the level 2 items are the last items in the ordered list.
> However, if the level 2 items happen to appear in the middle somewhere,
> such as 1, 2, followed by a, b, and c, and then back to level 1 at 3, the
> ordering doesn't pick back at 3. Instead, I get 6, as in 1, 2, a, b, c
> (under 2), and 6.
>
> What do I need to do to have that 3rd level 1 item number continue from
> the last level 1 tag?
>
> For reference, here is what I have for tag coding.
>
> FigureLegend covers all level 1 numbers, as well as all that follow: F:<
> >< >.\t
>
>
> FigureLegend_alpha covers the first level 2 item, indented slightly under
> the level 1 item: F:< >< >.\sn\t
>
>
>
> FIgurelegend_alpa+ covers all level 2 items that follow the item tagged
> with the FigureLegend_alpha tag: F:< >< >.\sn\t
>
>
>
>
>
> Tom Beiswenger
> Project Manager, Manager IB Technical Documentation
>
> Emhart Glass Inc.
> 74 Kahler Road North ? Horseheads NY 14845 ? USA
> Telephone 1 607 735 2551 ? Mobile +1 607 769 4779
> Fax +1 607 735 2601
> tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com
> www.bucheremhartglass.com
> www.bucherindustries.com
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[Framers] Numbering in an outline with numbers and small letters

2017-06-28 Thread tom . beiswenger
This one has me stumped, and I have to believe that there is a pretty 
simple solution that I'm overlooking.

I have a figure legend that has both numbered and lettered entries. Level 
1 items are  numerals and Level 2 items are small letters. This works 
fine, as long as the level 2 items are the last items in the ordered list. 
However, if the level 2 items happen to appear in the middle somewhere, 
such as 1, 2, followed by a, b, and c, and then back to level 1 at 3, the 
ordering doesn't pick back at 3. Instead, I get 6, as in 1, 2, a, b, c 
(under 2), and 6.

What do I need to do to have that 3rd level 1 item number continue from 
the last level 1 tag?

For reference, here is what I have for tag coding.

FigureLegend covers all level 1 numbers, as well as all that follow: F:< 
>< >.\t


FigureLegend_alpha covers the first level 2 item, indented slightly under 
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Tom Beiswenger
Project Manager, Manager IB Technical Documentation

Emhart Glass Inc. 
74 Kahler Road North ? Horseheads NY 14845 ? USA
Telephone 1 607 735 2551 ? Mobile +1 607 769 4779
Fax +1 607 735 2601
tom.beiswen...@emhartglass.com
www.bucheremhartglass.com
www.bucherindustries.com
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