Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue
I tried Winfried's "mif" fix and found/fixed the errant setting. No idea why it happened in the first place, though. Alison -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Caroline Tabach Sent: April 17, 2021 11:37 AM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue It probably won't help, but it might make you feel better, I also encountered exactly that problem some time ago. I don't remember how I fixed it... Caroline Tabach On Fri, 16 Apr 2021, 22:14 A Craig, wrote: > Thanks. > > -Original Message- > From: Framers > [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com] > On Behalf Of Fred Ridder > Sent: April 16, 2021 10:37 AM > To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' > > Subject: Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue > > The "as is" attribute is used to specify that the style will not > affect the given property when the style is applied to existing text. > If the property is set to either "yes" (checked) or "no" (unchecked), > it will either apply or clear that characteristic fro the text when the style is applied. > > -FR > > > From: Framers > > on > behalf of A Craig > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 1:05 PM > To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' > > Subject: Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue > > As this was a new style, I'm not sure that "as is" would be applicable...? > > And there wasn't any text in the paragraph when I created the style. I > copied in text that I "cleaned" in Notepad first (the text contained > both upper and lower case). > > I'll try Winfried's MIF suggestion later today. > > Alison > > > > -Original Message- > From: Framers > [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com] > On Behalf Of Mike Wickham > Sent: April 16, 2021 9:47 AM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue > > Be aware that there are three settings for the check boxes. A check > mark is on. A solid box is "keep as is." And an empty box is off. When > I first started in FrameMaker, I thought clicking the box once, so > that the check mark was gone was turning it off. It is not. It sets it > to as is, which is unchanged. It takes two checks to turn it off. > > Mike Wickham > > On 4/15/2021 8:17 PM, A Craig wrote: > > Frame 2020 (using an older Frame book/files as the base) Win 7 Pro > > (On my home computer. Win 10 on my remote, work computer - which > is where Frame resides) > > 64 bit > > > > I know I'm going to kick myself when I get the answer, but I've been > > away from Frame so long, some of the simplest things are taking a > > while to come back to me. > > > > I am editing and creating new Para styles and for some reason, when > > I set the Font characteristics for an incredibly simple (new) style, > > it won't retain a specific setting. > > > > Namely, Frame seems to be "insisting" that the style include the > > checkboxes for both Lower Case and Upper Case (all lower case is the > > winner as I can't enter an upper case letter in the text). > > > > No matter how many times I deselect the checkboxes, no matter the > > order of deselection and Update Style, they always reapply themselves. > > > > Have I found some weird bug or am I doing something wrong? > > > > Note that this hasn't affected any of the other new and updated > > styles I've worked on so far. > > > > FYI: The style uses 11 pt regular Calibri, with 12 points below and > > a 6mm hanging indent. > > > > Alison > > ___ > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's > homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's > homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.co
Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue
It probably won't help, but it might make you feel better, I also encountered exactly that problem some time ago. I don't remember how I fixed it... Caroline Tabach On Fri, 16 Apr 2021, 22:14 A Craig, wrote: > Thanks. > > -Original Message- > From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com] > On Behalf Of Fred Ridder > Sent: April 16, 2021 10:37 AM > To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' > > Subject: Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue > > The "as is" attribute is used to specify that the style will not affect the > given property when the style is applied to existing text. If the property > is set to either "yes" (checked) or "no" (unchecked), it will either apply > or clear that characteristic fro the text when the style is applied. > > -FR > > > From: Framers > on > behalf of A Craig > Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 1:05 PM > To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' > > Subject: Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue > > As this was a new style, I'm not sure that "as is" would be applicable...? > > And there wasn't any text in the paragraph when I created the style. I > copied in text that I "cleaned" in Notepad first (the text contained both > upper and lower case). > > I'll try Winfried's MIF suggestion later today. > > Alison > > > > -Original Message- > From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com] > On Behalf Of Mike Wickham > Sent: April 16, 2021 9:47 AM > To: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue > > Be aware that there are three settings for the check boxes. A check mark is > on. A solid box is "keep as is." And an empty box is off. When I first > started in FrameMaker, I thought clicking the box once, so that the check > mark was gone was turning it off. It is not. It sets it to as is, which is > unchanged. It takes two checks to turn it off. > > Mike Wickham > > On 4/15/2021 8:17 PM, A Craig wrote: > > Frame 2020 (using an older Frame book/files as the base) Win 7 Pro (On > > my home computer. Win 10 on my remote, work computer - which > is where Frame resides) > > 64 bit > > > > I know I'm going to kick myself when I get the answer, but I've been > > away from Frame so long, some of the simplest things are taking a > > while to come back to me. > > > > I am editing and creating new Para styles and for some reason, when I > > set the Font characteristics for an incredibly simple (new) style, it > > won't retain a specific setting. > > > > Namely, Frame seems to be "insisting" that the style include the > > checkboxes for both Lower Case and Upper Case (all lower case is the > > winner as I can't enter an upper case letter in the text). > > > > No matter how many times I deselect the checkboxes, no matter the > > order of deselection and Update Style, they always reapply themselves. > > > > Have I found some weird bug or am I doing something wrong? > > > > Note that this hasn't affected any of the other new and updated styles > > I've worked on so far. > > > > FYI: The style uses 11 pt regular Calibri, with 12 points below and a > > 6mm hanging indent. > > > > Alison > > ___ > > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at > http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > > > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com > Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com > Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com > ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue
Thanks. -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder Sent: April 16, 2021 10:37 AM To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' Subject: Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue The "as is" attribute is used to specify that the style will not affect the given property when the style is applied to existing text. If the property is set to either "yes" (checked) or "no" (unchecked), it will either apply or clear that characteristic fro the text when the style is applied. -FR From: Framers on behalf of A Craig Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 1:05 PM To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' Subject: Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue As this was a new style, I'm not sure that "as is" would be applicable...? And there wasn't any text in the paragraph when I created the style. I copied in text that I "cleaned" in Notepad first (the text contained both upper and lower case). I'll try Winfried's MIF suggestion later today. Alison -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham Sent: April 16, 2021 9:47 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue Be aware that there are three settings for the check boxes. A check mark is on. A solid box is "keep as is." And an empty box is off. When I first started in FrameMaker, I thought clicking the box once, so that the check mark was gone was turning it off. It is not. It sets it to as is, which is unchanged. It takes two checks to turn it off. Mike Wickham On 4/15/2021 8:17 PM, A Craig wrote: > Frame 2020 (using an older Frame book/files as the base) Win 7 Pro (On > my home computer. Win 10 on my remote, work computer - which is where Frame resides) > 64 bit > > I know I'm going to kick myself when I get the answer, but I've been > away from Frame so long, some of the simplest things are taking a > while to come back to me. > > I am editing and creating new Para styles and for some reason, when I > set the Font characteristics for an incredibly simple (new) style, it > won't retain a specific setting. > > Namely, Frame seems to be "insisting" that the style include the > checkboxes for both Lower Case and Upper Case (all lower case is the > winner as I can't enter an upper case letter in the text). > > No matter how many times I deselect the checkboxes, no matter the > order of deselection and Update Style, they always reapply themselves. > > Have I found some weird bug or am I doing something wrong? > > Note that this hasn't affected any of the other new and updated styles > I've worked on so far. > > FYI: The style uses 11 pt regular Calibri, with 12 points below and a > 6mm hanging indent. > > Alison > ___ > This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue
The "as is" attribute is used to specify that the style will not affect the given property when the style is applied to existing text. If the property is set to either "yes" (checked) or "no" (unchecked), it will either apply or clear that characteristic fro the text when the style is applied. -FR From: Framers on behalf of A Craig Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 1:05 PM To: 'An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software.' Subject: Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue As this was a new style, I'm not sure that "as is" would be applicable...? And there wasn't any text in the paragraph when I created the style. I copied in text that I "cleaned" in Notepad first (the text contained both upper and lower case). I'll try Winfried's MIF suggestion later today. Alison -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham Sent: April 16, 2021 9:47 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue Be aware that there are three settings for the check boxes. A check mark is on. A solid box is "keep as is." And an empty box is off. When I first started in FrameMaker, I thought clicking the box once, so that the check mark was gone was turning it off. It is not. It sets it to as is, which is unchanged. It takes two checks to turn it off. Mike Wickham On 4/15/2021 8:17 PM, A Craig wrote: > Frame 2020 (using an older Frame book/files as the base) > Win 7 Pro (On my home computer. Win 10 on my remote, work computer - which is where Frame resides) > 64 bit > > I know I'm going to kick myself when I get the answer, but I've been > away from Frame so long, some of the simplest things are taking a > while to come back to me. > > I am editing and creating new Para styles and for some reason, when I > set the Font characteristics for an incredibly simple (new) style, it > won't retain a specific setting. > > Namely, Frame seems to be "insisting" that the style include the > checkboxes for both Lower Case and Upper Case (all lower case is the > winner as I can't enter an upper case letter in the text). > > No matter how many times I deselect the checkboxes, no matter the > order of deselection and Update Style, they always reapply themselves. > > Have I found some weird bug or am I doing something wrong? > > Note that this hasn't affected any of the other new and updated styles > I've worked on so far. > > FYI: The style uses 11 pt regular Calibri, with 12 points below and a > 6mm hanging indent. > > Alison > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's > homepage at > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.frameusers.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cbe4a2ecfaf864513d21508d900f9d4ec%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637541895278910469%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=Ubn5yERvbbZyZqtz4TY5Olij26SOKi%2BDRLKOuz%2Ffafg%3Dreserved=0 > Archives located at > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fframers%2540lists.frameusers.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cbe4a2ecfaf864513d21508d900f9d4ec%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637541895278915447%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=Y3irgi4epHE7GPhhMQC4pITnyDZmPALHyMB1bAJaG44%3Dreserved=0 > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Flists.frameusers.com%2Flistinfo.cgi%2Fframers-frameusers.comdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cbe4a2ecfaf864513d21508d900f9d4ec%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637541895278915447%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=tThyBdosknAwtQIVb5Ii7stl30e7XQmUX6tUFBKsrrI%3Dreserved=0 > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.frameusers.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cbe4a2ecfaf864513d21508d900f9d4ec%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb435%7C1%7C0%7C637541895278915447%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C1000sdata=44h42%2F9YgRpVMVzSOA1fSuHR18WwUuxPi3TO1O4inMU%3Dreserved=0 Archives located at https://na01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.mail-archive.com%2Fframers%2540lists.frameusers.com%2Fdata=04%7C01%7C%7Cbe4a2ecfaf864513d21508d900f9d4ec%7C84df9e7fe9f640afb4
Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue
As this was a new style, I'm not sure that "as is" would be applicable...? And there wasn't any text in the paragraph when I created the style. I copied in text that I "cleaned" in Notepad first (the text contained both upper and lower case). I'll try Winfried's MIF suggestion later today. Alison -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Mike Wickham Sent: April 16, 2021 9:47 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue Be aware that there are three settings for the check boxes. A check mark is on. A solid box is "keep as is." And an empty box is off. When I first started in FrameMaker, I thought clicking the box once, so that the check mark was gone was turning it off. It is not. It sets it to as is, which is unchanged. It takes two checks to turn it off. Mike Wickham On 4/15/2021 8:17 PM, A Craig wrote: > Frame 2020 (using an older Frame book/files as the base) > Win 7 Pro (On my home computer. Win 10 on my remote, work computer - which is where Frame resides) > 64 bit > > I know I'm going to kick myself when I get the answer, but I've been > away from Frame so long, some of the simplest things are taking a > while to come back to me. > > I am editing and creating new Para styles and for some reason, when I > set the Font characteristics for an incredibly simple (new) style, it > won't retain a specific setting. > > Namely, Frame seems to be "insisting" that the style include the > checkboxes for both Lower Case and Upper Case (all lower case is the > winner as I can't enter an upper case letter in the text). > > No matter how many times I deselect the checkboxes, no matter the > order of deselection and Update Style, they always reapply themselves. > > Have I found some weird bug or am I doing something wrong? > > Note that this hasn't affected any of the other new and updated styles > I've worked on so far. > > FYI: The style uses 11 pt regular Calibri, with 12 points below and a > 6mm hanging indent. > > Alison > ___ > > This message is from the Framers mailing list > > Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's > homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at > http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ > Subscribe and unsubscribe at > http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue
Hi Winifred It's not that I have more than one checkbox checked, it's that the checkmark shows for both Lower Case and Upper case when I select each option from the dropdown menu (which is truly weird). This hasn't affected any of the other new styles I created or the ones I updated. I won't get back to the template until late this afternoon, at which point I'll give your MIF scenario a try. Thanks, Alison -Original Message- From: Framers [mailto:framers-bounces+acraig=shaw...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Reng Winfried Sent: April 15, 2021 11:43 PM To: An email list for people using Adobe FrameMaker software. Subject: Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue Hi Alison, Do you have this issue for all paragraphs? No matter in which paragraph your insertion mark is? If only in a specific paragraph, there is a special paragraph property which you can see only in MIF. This would allow only that you enter text, but you cannot change the paragraph format. Enter some characters which you can find easily, e.g. ü. Then convert to MIF, open in a text editor and search for these characters. The paragraph could have a property nach . Just change this to No. Save and open in FrameMaker. If this is not the case, your description does not match my Paragraph Designer. I have only a single checkbox for Small Caps/Uppercase/Lowercase and not two as you describe. Best regards Winfried -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of A Craig Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:18 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue Frame 2020 (using an older Frame book/files as the base) Win 7 Pro (On my home computer. Win 10 on my remote, work computer - which is where Frame resides) 64 bit I know I'm going to kick myself when I get the answer, but I've been away from Frame so long, some of the simplest things are taking a while to come back to me. I am editing and creating new Para styles and for some reason, when I set the Font characteristics for an incredibly simple (new) style, it won't retain a specific setting. Namely, Frame seems to be "insisting" that the style include the checkboxes for both Lower Case and Upper Case (all lower case is the winner as I can't enter an upper case letter in the text). No matter how many times I deselect the checkboxes, no matter the order of deselection and Update Style, they always reapply themselves. Have I found some weird bug or am I doing something wrong? Note that this hasn't affected any of the other new and updated styles I've worked on so far. FYI: The style uses 11 pt regular Calibri, with 12 points below and a 6mm hanging indent. Alison ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue
Be aware that there are three settings for the check boxes. A check mark is on. A solid box is "keep as is." And an empty box is off. When I first started in FrameMaker, I thought clicking the box once, so that the check mark was gone was turning it off. It is not. It sets it to as is, which is unchanged. It takes two checks to turn it off. Mike Wickham On 4/15/2021 8:17 PM, A Craig wrote: Frame 2020 (using an older Frame book/files as the base) Win 7 Pro 64 bit I know I'm going to kick myself when I get the answer, but I've been away from Frame so long, some of the simplest things are taking a while to come back to me. I am editing and creating new Para styles and for some reason, when I set the Font characteristics for an incredibly simple (new) style, it won't retain a specific setting. Namely, Frame seems to be "insisting" that the style include the checkboxes for both Lower Case and Upper Case (all lower case is the winner as I can't enter an upper case letter in the text). No matter how many times I deselect the checkboxes, no matter the order of deselection and Update Style, they always reapply themselves. Have I found some weird bug or am I doing something wrong? Note that this hasn't affected any of the other new and updated styles I've worked on so far. FYI: The style uses 11 pt regular Calibri, with 12 points below and a 6mm hanging indent. Alison ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
Re: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue
Hi Alison, Do you have this issue for all paragraphs? No matter in which paragraph your insertion mark is? If only in a specific paragraph, there is a special paragraph property which you can see only in MIF. This would allow only that you enter text, but you cannot change the paragraph format. Enter some characters which you can find easily, e.g. ü. Then convert to MIF, open in a text editor and search for these characters. The paragraph could have a property nach . Just change this to No. Save and open in FrameMaker. If this is not the case, your description does not match my Paragraph Designer. I have only a single checkbox for Small Caps/Uppercase/Lowercase and not two as you describe. Best regards Winfried -Original Message- From: Framers On Behalf Of A Craig Sent: Friday, April 16, 2021 3:18 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [Framers] Paragraph Style Issue Frame 2020 (using an older Frame book/files as the base) Win 7 Pro 64 bit I know I'm going to kick myself when I get the answer, but I've been away from Frame so long, some of the simplest things are taking a while to come back to me. I am editing and creating new Para styles and for some reason, when I set the Font characteristics for an incredibly simple (new) style, it won't retain a specific setting. Namely, Frame seems to be "insisting" that the style include the checkboxes for both Lower Case and Upper Case (all lower case is the winner as I can't enter an upper case letter in the text). No matter how many times I deselect the checkboxes, no matter the order of deselection and Update Style, they always reapply themselves. Have I found some weird bug or am I doing something wrong? Note that this hasn't affected any of the other new and updated styles I've worked on so far. FYI: The style uses 11 pt regular Calibri, with 12 points below and a 6mm hanging indent. Alison ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
[Framers] Paragraph Style Issue
Frame 2020 (using an older Frame book/files as the base) Win 7 Pro 64 bit I know I'm going to kick myself when I get the answer, but I've been away from Frame so long, some of the simplest things are taking a while to come back to me. I am editing and creating new Para styles and for some reason, when I set the Font characteristics for an incredibly simple (new) style, it won't retain a specific setting. Namely, Frame seems to be "insisting" that the style include the checkboxes for both Lower Case and Upper Case (all lower case is the winner as I can't enter an upper case letter in the text). No matter how many times I deselect the checkboxes, no matter the order of deselection and Update Style, they always reapply themselves. Have I found some weird bug or am I doing something wrong? Note that this hasn't affected any of the other new and updated styles I've worked on so far. FYI: The style uses 11 pt regular Calibri, with 12 points below and a 6mm hanging indent. Alison ___ This message is from the Framers mailing list Send messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com Visit the list's homepage at http://www.frameusers.com Archives located at http://www.mail-archive.com/framers%40lists.frameusers.com/ Subscribe and unsubscribe at http://lists.frameusers.com/listinfo.cgi/framers-frameusers.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com
