RE: Document Revision Control

2012-09-26 Thread Craig Ede
We used to routinely save books of 1000+ and 2000+ pages into RCS as MIF. It's true that the diffs were so many that they were useless as a way of seeing what changed. But since we couldn't save the binaries in that environment, we had to use MIF for revision control. And storage was (is!)

Document Revision Control

2012-09-25 Thread Craig Ede
We used to routinely save books of 1000+ and 2000+ pages into RCS as MIF. It's true that the diffs were so many that they were useless as a way of seeing what changed. But since we couldn't save the binaries in that environment, we had to use MIF for revision control. And storage was (is!)

RE: Document revision control

2012-09-24 Thread Amy Super
links. Thanks again! Amy -Original Message- From: robert.lauris...@gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:55 PM To: Amy Super Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Document revision control Subversion

Re: Document Revision Control

2012-09-24 Thread Joseph Lorenzini
Hi Chris, This issue you raised about binary files and SVN used to be true but is somewhat inaccurate now. I stayed away from SVN for a really long time because of this very issue. I thought it was ridiculous that every time I would make a commit, SVN would commit an entirely new version of the

Re: Document Revision Control

2012-09-24 Thread Robert Lauriston
Engineers generally compile binaries from text source. Checking those binaries into source control makes no sense. When a source format is binary it belongs in source control. FM files take up more space than e.g. Java source, but hard drives are so cheap these days it's not anything anyone needs

Document revision control

2012-09-24 Thread Amy Super
links. Thanks again! Amy -Original Message- From: robert.lauriston at gmail.com [mailto:robert.lauris...@gmail.com] On Behalf Of Robert Lauriston Sent: Friday, September 21, 2012 5:55 PM To: Amy Super Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Document revision control Subversion

Document Revision Control

2012-09-24 Thread Joseph Lorenzini
Hi Chris, This issue you raised about binary files and SVN used to be true but is somewhat inaccurate now. I stayed away from SVN for a really long time because of this very issue. I thought it was ridiculous that every time I would make a commit, SVN would commit an entirely new version of the

Document Revision Control

2012-09-24 Thread Robert Lauriston
Engineers generally compile binaries from text source. Checking those binaries into source control makes no sense. When a source format is binary it belongs in source control. FM files take up more space than e.g. Java source, but hard drives are so cheap these days it's not anything anyone needs

Document Revision Control

2012-09-24 Thread Stuart Rogers
On 24/09/2012 11:59 AM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > > When a source format is binary it belongs in source control. FM files > take up more space than e.g. Java source, but hard drives are so cheap > these days it's not anything anyone needs to worry about. > And .mif files can take up more than

Re: Document revision control

2012-09-23 Thread Joseph Lorenzini
Hi Amy, I strongly recommend subversion considering that you are such a small team, especially compared to the other options. In the end, it does ultimately come down to your use case, so it in some sense depends. --Perforce: have not used this personally but i believe its a high learning curve

Re: Document revision control

2012-09-22 Thread Robert Lauriston
Subversion is good and free. Perforce is good and not free. You don't have to convert to .mif, you can check in .fm and .book files as binaries. You can't merge binaries but who's going to merge a .mif file anyway? The one other you might want to look at is Git for Windows, which is a

Document revision control

2012-09-22 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson
Hi Amy, I have used Subversion / Tortoise SVN extensively and it has never failed me. The last couple of years I have been using www.assembla.com's services to. Assembla offers hosting of your files using SVN or GIT and maybe some other options too. Assembla seems to me a very reasonable option.

Document revision control

2012-09-22 Thread Sebastian A
Hi Amy, Subversion is a good option. We have been using it for long, and we are a team of 20+ writers. We too use FM. Thanks and regards, Sebastian A On Thu, Sep 20, 2012 at 12:31 AM, Amy Super wrote: > Hi there, > > Does anyone out there use a revision control system? We are in dire

Document revision control

2012-09-22 Thread Chris Despopoulos
Just a word about MIF in source control.? It's true that storing binary files (.fm) in source control is somewhat abusive, because the system has to store a complete copy of the file for each revision.? In the old days dev would never let you do that because storage actually cost something.?

Document revision control

2012-09-22 Thread Joseph Lorenzini
Hi Amy, I strongly recommend subversion considering that you are such a small team, especially compared to the other options. In the end, it does ultimately come down to your use case, so it in some sense depends. --Perforce: have not used this personally but i believe its a high learning curve

Document revision control

2012-09-21 Thread Amy Super
Hi there, Does anyone out there use a revision control system? We are in dire need of it, as my company has recently gone up to 3 writers (from 1) and we're afraid of overwriting work. Our document repository is made up of standalone FM docs with linked images, FM books with linked images,

RE: Document revision control

2012-09-21 Thread Alison Craig
...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Amy Super Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:01 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Document revision control Hi there, Does anyone out there use a revision control system? We are in dire need of it, as my

RE: Document revision control

2012-09-21 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Document revision control Hi there, Does anyone out there use a revision control system? We are in dire need of it, as my company has recently gone up to 3 writers (from 1) and we're afraid of overwriting work. Our document repository is made up of standalone FM docs

Re: Document revision control

2012-09-21 Thread Böðvar Björgvinsson
Hi Amy, I have used Subversion / Tortoise SVN extensively and it has never failed me. The last couple of years I have been using www.assembla.com's services to. Assembla offers hosting of your files using SVN or GIT and maybe some other options too. Assembla seems to me a very reasonable option.

Document revision control

2012-09-21 Thread Alison Craig
ramers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Amy Super Sent: Wednesday, September 19, 2012 12:01 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Document revision control Hi there, Does anyone out there use a revision control system? We are in dir

Document revision control

2012-09-21 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
dnesday, September 19, 2012 12:01 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Document revision control Hi there, Does anyone out there use a revision control system? We are in dire need of it, as my company has recently gone up to 3 writers (from 1) and we're afraid of overwriting work.

Document revision control

2012-09-21 Thread Robert Lauriston
Subversion is good and free. Perforce is good and not free. You don't have to convert to .mif, you can check in .fm and .book files as binaries. You can't merge binaries but who's going to merge a .mif file anyway? The one other you might want to look at is Git for Windows, which is a