FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats

[Martinek, Carla]

Has anyone else noticed a delay when using F8/F9 for apply formats in FM11?

We set up the shortcuts for styles years ago so we only had to 1-3 keys for 
applying them.  It seems to me in FM11 with the format list popping up, there's 
a 1/2 second or longer delay when trying to apply styles.

For example, we use the key combo F8b4ENTER to apply one of our bullet 
styles. BUT.. in FM11, I've been ending up with our 1_Heading1 style (since its 
first in line of style names) because the system is playing catch up. It's 
registering F8, but then has to display the list, so b4 is missed and it just 
registers the ENTER, applying the first style in the list.

-Carla


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RE: FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Carla,

Yes, I have seen this, particularly with long lists of formats. It is very
frustrating. I have been thinking of writing a script that will mimic the
old behavior, but I am not sure what is possible.

Rick

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Subject: FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats 

Has anyone else noticed a delay when using F8/F9 for apply formats in FM11?

We set up the shortcuts for styles years ago so we only had to 1-3 keys for
applying them.  It seems to me in FM11 with the format list popping up,
there's a 1/2 second or longer delay when trying to apply styles.

For example, we use the key combo F8b4ENTER to apply one of our bullet
styles. BUT.. in FM11, I've been ending up with our 1_Heading1 style (since
its first in line of style names) because the system is playing catch up.
It's registering F8, but then has to display the list, so b4 is missed and
it just registers the ENTER, applying the first style in the list.

-Carla


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Re: FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Carla

Yes, I see this too, also in Structured mode, when I'm using CTRL+1, 2 or 3
to insert, wrap or change elements. Very annoying indeed. The shortcut
menu with the list of formats or elements isn't really a shortcut menu
anymore. I want the good old (but fast!) Fm8 behavior back.

Cheers

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www.scripto.nu



On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Martinek, Carla cmarti...@zebra.com wrote:

 Has anyone else noticed a delay when using F8/F9 for apply formats in FM11?

 We set up the shortcuts for styles years ago so we only had to 1-3 keys
 for applying them.  It seems to me in FM11 with the format list popping up,
 there's a 1/2 second or longer delay when trying to apply styles.

 For example, we use the key combo F8b4ENTER to apply one of our bullet
 styles. BUT.. in FM11, I've been ending up with our 1_Heading1 style (since
 its first in line of style names) because the system is playing catch up.
 It's registering F8, but then has to display the list, so b4 is missed
 and it just registers the ENTER, applying the first style in the list.

 -Carla


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Re: FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats

[Klaus Daube]

On 1 Apr 2013 at 10:01, Martinek, Carla wrote:

 Has anyone else noticed a delay when using F8/F9 for apply formats in
 FM11?
 
 We set up the shortcuts for styles years ago so we only had to 1-3 keys
 for applying them.  It seems to me in FM11 with the format list popping
 up, there's a 1/2 second or longer delay when trying to apply styles.

Yes, Carla, this delay is very frustrating - especially the delay appearing for 
the first use of F8/F9 
etc. In may case this may be up to 10 seconds. It seems that the internal table 
with the style names 
is built up only on first use of the 'short cut' and not just after opening the 
file.

Klaus Daube
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Re: FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats

[john . x . posada]

Not really...I press F9 and the menu pops up almost immediately




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Has anyone else noticed a delay when using F8/F9 for apply formats in FM11?

We set up the shortcuts for styles years ago so we only had to 1-3 keys for
applying them.  It seems to me in FM11 with the format list popping up,
there's a 1/2 second or longer delay when trying to apply styles.

For example, we use the key combo F8b4ENTER to apply one of our bullet
styles. BUT.. in FM11, I've been ending up with our 1_Heading1 style (since
its first in line of style names) because the system is playing catch up.
It's registering F8, but then has to display the list, so b4 is missed
and it just registers the ENTER, applying the first style in the list.

-Carla





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Re: FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats

[Matt Sullivan]

Hi Carla,Yes, there's a delay the first time you use Smart Insert in a doc, and if you type too rapidly, there's usually an error in which tag is selected. I've also seen where the correct tag is visible (perhaps at the bottom of the list of available tags, but a different tag is actually selected.
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On Apr 1, 2013, at 8:06 AM, john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com wrote:Not really...I press F9 and the menu pops up almost immediately From: "Martinek, Carla" cmarti...@zebra.com  To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" framers@lists.frameusers.com  Date: 04/01/2013 11:00 AM  Subject: FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats  Sent by: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com Has anyone else noticed a delay when using F8/F9 for apply formats in FM11?We set up the shortcuts for styles years ago so we only had to 1-3 keys forapplying them. It seems to me in FM11 with the format list popping up,there's a 1/2 second or longer delay when trying to apply styles.For example, we use the key combo F8b4ENTER to apply one of our bulletstyles. BUT.. in FM11, I've been ending up with our 1_Heading1 style (sinceits first in line of style names) because the system is playing catch up.It's registering F8, but then has to display the list, so "b4" is missedand it just registers the ENTER, applying the first style in the list.-Carla-**This E-mail is confidential. It may also be legally privileged. Ifyou are not the addressee you may not copy, forward, disclose oruse any part of it. If you have received this message in error,please delete it and all copies from your system and notify thesender immediately by return E-mail.Internet communications cannot be guaranteed to be timely, secure,error or virus-free. The sender does not accept liability for anyerrors or omissions.**SAVE PAPER - THINK BEFORE YOU PRINT!___You are currently subscribed to framers as m...@mattrsullivan.com.Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com.To unsubscribe send a blank email toframers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.comor visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/matt%40mattrsullivan.comSend administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visithttp://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.___


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FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Carla,

Yes, I have seen this, particularly with long lists of formats. It is very
frustrating. I have been thinking of writing a script that will mimic the
old behavior, but I am not sure what is possible.

Rick

Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing Inc.
585-283-5045
rick at frameexpert.com



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[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Martinek, Carla
Sent: Monday, April 01, 2013 11:02 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats 

Has anyone else noticed a delay when using F8/F9 for apply formats in FM11?

We set up the shortcuts for styles years ago so we only had to 1-3 keys for
applying them.  It seems to me in FM11 with the format list popping up,
there's a 1/2 second or longer delay when trying to apply styles.

For example, we use the key combo F8>b4>ENTER to apply one of our bullet
styles. BUT.. in FM11, I've been ending up with our 1_Heading1 style (since
its first in line of style names) because the system is playing catch up.
It's registering F8, but then has to display the list, so "b4" is missed and
it just registers the ENTER, applying the first style in the list.

-Carla


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FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats

[Yves Barbion]

Hi Carla

Yes, I see this too, also in Structured mode, when I'm using CTRL+1, 2 or 3
to insert, wrap or change elements. Very annoying indeed. The "shortcut"
menu with the list of formats or elements isn't really a shortcut menu
anymore. I want the good old (but fast!) Fm8 behavior back.

Cheers

Yves Barbion
www.scripto.nu



On Mon, Apr 1, 2013 at 5:01 PM, Martinek, Carla  wrote:

> Has anyone else noticed a delay when using F8/F9 for apply formats in FM11?
>
> We set up the shortcuts for styles years ago so we only had to 1-3 keys
> for applying them.  It seems to me in FM11 with the format list popping up,
> there's a 1/2 second or longer delay when trying to apply styles.
>
> For example, we use the key combo F8>b4>ENTER to apply one of our bullet
> styles. BUT.. in FM11, I've been ending up with our 1_Heading1 style (since
> its first in line of style names) because the system is playing catch up.
> It's registering F8, but then has to display the list, so "b4" is missed
> and it just registers the ENTER, applying the first style in the list.
>
> -Carla
>
>
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[Klaus Daube]

On 1 Apr 2013 at 10:01, Martinek, Carla wrote:

> Has anyone else noticed a delay when using F8/F9 for apply formats in
> FM11?
> 
> We set up the shortcuts for styles years ago so we only had to 1-3 keys
> for applying them.  It seems to me in FM11 with the format list popping
> up, there's a 1/2 second or longer delay when trying to apply styles.

Yes, Carla, this delay is very frustrating - especially the delay appearing for 
the first use of F8/F9 
etc. In may case this may be up to 10 seconds. It seems that the internal table 
with the style names 
is built up only on first use of the 'short cut' and not just after opening the 
file.

Klaus Daube
~~
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Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper
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FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats

[john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com]

Not really...I press F9 and the menu pops up almost immediately



  From:   "Martinek, Carla" 
   

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  Subject:    FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats  


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Has anyone else noticed a delay when using F8/F9 for apply formats in FM11?

We set up the shortcuts for styles years ago so we only had to 1-3 keys for
applying them.  It seems to me in FM11 with the format list popping up,
there's a 1/2 second or longer delay when trying to apply styles.

For example, we use the key combo F8>b4>ENTER to apply one of our bullet
styles. BUT.. in FM11, I've been ending up with our 1_Heading1 style (since
its first in line of style names) because the system is playing catch up.
It's registering F8, but then has to display the list, so "b4" is missed
and it just registers the ENTER, applying the first style in the list.

-Carla





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FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats

[Matt Sullivan]

Hi Carla, 

Yes, there's a delay the first time you use Smart Insert in a doc, and if you 
type too rapidly, there's usually an error in which tag is selected. I've also 
seen where the correct tag is visible (perhaps at the bottom of the list of 
available tags, but a different tag is actually selected.

-Matt

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On Apr 1, 2013, at 8:06 AM, john.x.posada at us.hsbc.com wrote:

> Not really...I press F9 and the menu pops up almost immediately
> 
> 
> 
>  From:   "Martinek, Carla"
> 
> 
>  To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com"  lists.frameusers.com> 
> 
> 
>  Date:   04/01/2013 11:00 AM  
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>  Subject:FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats 
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> 
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> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Has anyone else noticed a delay when using F8/F9 for apply formats in FM11?
> 
> We set up the shortcuts for styles years ago so we only had to 1-3 keys for
> applying them.  It seems to me in FM11 with the format list popping up,
> there's a 1/2 second or longer delay when trying to apply styles.
> 
> For example, we use the key combo F8>b4>ENTER to apply one of our bullet
> styles. BUT.. in FM11, I've been ending up with our 1_Heading1 style (since
> its first in line of style names) because the system is playing catch up.
> It's registering F8, but then has to display the list, so "b4" is missed
> and it just registers the ENTER, applying the first style in the list.
> 
> -Carla
> 
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FM11 - Delay with F8 and F9 applying formats

[Martinek, Carla]

Has anyone else noticed a delay when using F8/F9 for apply formats in FM11?

We set up the shortcuts for styles years ago so we only had to 1-3 keys for 
applying them.  It seems to me in FM11 with the format list popping up, there's 
a 1/2 second or longer delay when trying to apply styles.

For example, we use the key combo F8>b4>ENTER to apply one of our bullet 
styles. BUT.. in FM11, I've been ending up with our 1_Heading1 style (since its 
first in line of style names) because the system is playing catch up. It's 
registering F8, but then has to display the list, so "b4" is missed and it just 
registers the ENTER, applying the first style in the list.

-Carla


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