Re: Fixing Numbers in PDF Bookmarks

2007-11-01 Thread Shmuel Wolfson

I think the soft return is the simplest and most elegant solution.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



William Abernathy wrote:
Here's an annoyance I'm stumped on. I've been working on updating my 
group's template, which is a unification of two work groups' templates.


One group had chapter title paragraph tags that addressed chapter 
numbering with  a simple auto-number, after which the writer was 
required to enter a soft (linefeed) return to enter the chapter title. 
The other group had a special frame on the First master page that 
contained the chapter number, which would appear automatically, with 
writers simply required to enter the chapter title in the adjacent 
title line field. I proposed a simple alternative, which eliminated 
the first group's required user input and the complexity of the second 
group's extra master pages and paragraph tags. This was to use a 
Chapter title paragraph tag that had the chapter number, a tab, and 
the text.


Would that life were so simple.

The group decided that for readability, the chapter/appendix number 
and the text should appear on the right margin. FrameMaker does not 
like line feeds in the autonumber fields, so I accomplished this by 
cunning subterkludge: I defined the Chapter and Appendix paragraph 
tags as:

C:$chapnum =0 =0 =0 =0 =0[ and 46 spaces ]

The 46 spaces forced a new line, everything stuck to the right margin, 
and peace and love ruled the stars...


Until we output the thing to PDF. [Frame 7.x outputting to PDF 5.0 
using Distiller 7.0 on Windows XP]


The space-forced line feed results in repeated chapter numbers in the 
PDF bookmarks. For example:


1 1 Chapter Title
A A Appendix Title

Does anyone know alternatives for:
* Forcing a line feed in a chapter-heading paragraph format?
* Suppressing this bizarre repeated numbering?

Thanks in advance,

--William



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Fixing Numbers in PDF Bookmarks

2007-11-01 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
I think the soft return is the simplest and most elegant solution.

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson



William Abernathy wrote:
> Here's an annoyance I'm stumped on. I've been working on updating my 
> group's template, which is a unification of two work groups' templates.
>
> One group had chapter title paragraph tags that addressed chapter 
> numbering with  a simple auto-number, after which the writer was 
> required to enter a soft (linefeed) return to enter the chapter title. 
> The other group had a special frame on the First master page that 
> contained the chapter number, which would appear automatically, with 
> writers simply required to enter the chapter title in the adjacent 
> title line field. I proposed a simple alternative, which eliminated 
> the first group's required user input and the complexity of the second 
> group's extra master pages and paragraph tags. This was to use a 
> Chapter title paragraph tag that had the chapter number, a tab, and 
> the text.
>
> Would that life were so simple.
>
> The group decided that for readability, the chapter/appendix number 
> and the text should appear on the right margin. FrameMaker does not 
> like line feeds in the autonumber fields, so I accomplished this by 
> cunning subterkludge: I defined the Chapter and Appendix paragraph 
> tags as:
> "C:<$chapnum>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>[ and 46 spaces ]"
>
> The 46 spaces forced a new line, everything stuck to the right margin, 
> and peace and love ruled the stars...
>
> Until we output the thing to PDF. [Frame 7.x outputting to PDF 5.0 
> using Distiller 7.0 on Windows XP]
>
> The space-forced line feed results in repeated chapter numbers in the 
> PDF bookmarks. For example:
>
> 1 1 Chapter Title
> A A Appendix Title
>
> Does anyone know alternatives for:
> * Forcing a line feed in a chapter-heading paragraph format?
> * Suppressing this bizarre repeated numbering?
>
> Thanks in advance,
>
> --William
>
>
>
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Fixing Numbers in PDF Bookmarks

2007-10-31 Thread William Abernathy
Here's an annoyance I'm stumped on. I've been working on updating my group's 
template, which is a unification of two work groups' templates.


One group had chapter title paragraph tags that addressed chapter numbering with 
 a simple auto-number, after which the writer was required to enter a soft 
(linefeed) return to enter the chapter title. The other group had a special 
frame on the First master page that contained the chapter number, which would 
appear automatically, with writers simply required to enter the chapter title in 
the adjacent title line field. I proposed a simple alternative, which eliminated 
the first group's required user input and the complexity of the second group's 
extra master pages and paragraph tags. This was to use a Chapter title paragraph 
tag that had the chapter number, a tab, and the text.


Would that life were so simple.

The group decided that for readability, the chapter/appendix number and the text 
should appear on the right margin. FrameMaker does not like line feeds in the 
autonumber fields, so I accomplished this by cunning subterkludge: I defined the 
Chapter and Appendix paragraph tags as:

C:$chapnum =0 =0 =0 =0 =0[ and 46 spaces ]

The 46 spaces forced a new line, everything stuck to the right margin, and peace 
and love ruled the stars...


Until we output the thing to PDF. [Frame 7.x outputting to PDF 5.0 using 
Distiller 7.0 on Windows XP]


The space-forced line feed results in repeated chapter numbers in the PDF 
bookmarks. For example:


1 1 Chapter Title
A A Appendix Title

Does anyone know alternatives for:
* Forcing a line feed in a chapter-heading paragraph format?
* Suppressing this bizarre repeated numbering?

Thanks in advance,

--William



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Fixing Numbers in PDF Bookmarks

2007-10-31 Thread William Abernathy
Here's an annoyance I'm stumped on. I've been working on updating my group's 
template, which is a unification of two work groups' templates.

One group had chapter title paragraph tags that addressed chapter numbering 
with 
  a simple auto-number, after which the writer was required to enter a soft 
(linefeed) return to enter the chapter title. The other group had a special 
frame on the First master page that contained the chapter number, which would 
appear automatically, with writers simply required to enter the chapter title 
in 
the adjacent title line field. I proposed a simple alternative, which 
eliminated 
the first group's required user input and the complexity of the second group's 
extra master pages and paragraph tags. This was to use a Chapter title 
paragraph 
tag that had the chapter number, a tab, and the text.

Would that life were so simple.

The group decided that for readability, the chapter/appendix number and the 
text 
should appear on the right margin. FrameMaker does not like line feeds in the 
autonumber fields, so I accomplished this by cunning subterkludge: I defined 
the 
Chapter and Appendix paragraph tags as:
"C:<$chapnum>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>< =0>[ and 46 spaces ]"

The 46 spaces forced a new line, everything stuck to the right margin, and 
peace 
and love ruled the stars...

Until we output the thing to PDF. [Frame 7.x outputting to PDF 5.0 using 
Distiller 7.0 on Windows XP]

The space-forced line feed results in repeated chapter numbers in the PDF 
bookmarks. For example:

1 1 Chapter Title
A A Appendix Title

Does anyone know alternatives for:
* Forcing a line feed in a chapter-heading paragraph format?
* Suppressing this bizarre repeated numbering?

Thanks in advance,

--William