Re: Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-28 Thread McLean, Malcolm
I wonder how many of us might buy a Frame Light for home use, even with no output capabilities at all. I think remember a WYSINQWYG (...not quite...) editor for Interleaf, and Flare has an editor for use by reviewers. Something like that would suit me fine. In my present job I don't have a

Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-28 Thread Steve Rickaby
I think I see where Adobe are coming from here... InCopy <-> InDesign Contribute <-> Dreamweaver FrameMaker Lite <-> FrameMaker ...maybe. As a sole worker using FrameMaker mostly for textbook production, I'd have no use for a Lite version, but it's encouraging to hear that Adobe are

Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-28 Thread McLean, Malcolm
I wonder how many of us might buy a Frame Light for home use, even with no output capabilities at all. I think remember a WYSINQWYG (...not quite...) editor for Interleaf, and Flare has an editor for use by reviewers. Something like that would suit me fine. In my present job I don't have a

Re: Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-27 Thread Writer
On 22/02/2011 7:19 PM, Mike Wickham wrote: I think it was a mistake for FrameMaker 10 not to include ePub output directly from FrameMaker. I can output an ePub straight from InDesign or straight from Apple Pages, but I need the full TCS3 to output ePub through RoboHelp. When I saw the

Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-27 Thread Writer
On 22/02/2011 7:19 PM, Mike Wickham wrote: > >> I think it was a mistake for FrameMaker 10 not to include ePub output directly from FrameMaker. I can output an ePub straight from InDesign or straight from Apple Pages, but I need the full TCS3 to output ePub through RoboHelp. >> > When I

Re: Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-23 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Adobe wants you to use Acrobat for that (with PDFs). That why they incorporated comments features in Acrobat and incorporating the comments into Frame. Regards, Shmuel Wolfson Technical Writer 052-763-7133 On 2/22/2011 12:56 PM, Anthony Davey wrote:

RE: Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-23 Thread Anthony Davey
] Sent: 23 February 2011 09:17 To: Anthony Davey Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Frame Light, what's the potential market? Adobe wants you to use Acrobat for that (with PDFs). That why they incorporated comments features in Acrobat and incorporating the comments into Frame. Regards

RE: Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-23 Thread Lea Rush
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Frame Light, what's the potential market? I think it was a mistake for FrameMaker 10 not to include ePub output directly from FrameMaker. I can output an ePub straight from InDesign or straight from Apple Pages, but I need the full TCS3

Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-23 Thread Alan T Litchfield
Hi Ant, Probably not what you want to hear but... Frankly, why bother. It is reinventing the wheel that Adobe decided to let fall some years go with Frame View, et al. InDesign already has a client application for copy editing, I see no particular reason for Frame to have another

Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-23 Thread Alan T Litchfield
Totally agreeing with Rick here, and yet curiously, we are both SMEs. Go figure ;) Alan On 23/02/2011, at 10:14 AM, Dr Rick Smith wrote: > I admit I'm astonished that any software product manager could ask > about the market for a "Light" version of their product. > > I thought the industry

Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-23 Thread Alan T Litchfield
On 23/02/2011, at 11:00 AM, Milan Davidovi? wrote: > On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Dr Rick Smith > wrote: >> I admit I'm astonished that any software product manager could ask >> about the market for a "Light" version of their product. >> >> I thought the industry had already proven -

Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-23 Thread Alan T Litchfield
On 23/02/2011, at 11:20 AM, Brad Anderson wrote: > I, too, have wished for the capability for more than 10 years and > have requested it numerous times from Adobe. This would be one way > to bring back the Mac version--add FrameMaker lite to the App > store. I think a price point of $99

Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-23 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
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Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-23 Thread Anthony Davey
] Sent: 23 February 2011 09:17 To: Anthony Davey Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Frame Light, what's the potential market? Adobe wants you to use Acrobat for that (with PDFs). That why they incorporated comments features in Acrobat and incorporating the comments into Frame

Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-23 Thread Lea Rush
February 22, 2011 4:20 PM > To: framers at lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Frame Light, what's the potential market? > > > > I think it was a mistake for FrameMaker 10 not to include ePub output > > directly from FrameMaker. I can output an ePub straight from InDesign >

Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-22 Thread Anthony Davey
Cross posted to dita-frameusers, so ignore as needed ... I had an interesting discussion with the Frame Product Manager a few days ago at the London launch event for TCS3. It seems there is the motivation to develop a business case for 'Frame Light' which could be used by SMEs to create and

Re: Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-22 Thread Alan T Litchfield
Hi Ant, Probably not what you want to hear but... Frankly, why bother. It is reinventing the wheel that Adobe decided to let fall some years go with Frame View, et al. InDesign already has a client application for copy editing, I see no particular reason for Frame to have another

Re: Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-22 Thread Dr Rick Smith
I admit I'm astonished that any software product manager could ask about the market for a Light version of their product. I thought the industry had already proven - time and again - that such things never thrive. If they want to expand the market for Frame, why not bring back the Mac/Unix

Re: Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-22 Thread Alan T Litchfield
Totally agreeing with Rick here, and yet curiously, we are both SMEs. Go figure ;) Alan On 23/02/2011, at 10:14 AM, Dr Rick Smith wrote: I admit I'm astonished that any software product manager could ask about the market for a Light version of their product. I thought the industry had

RE: Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-22 Thread Rick Quatro
: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:57 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Frame Light, what's the potential market? Cross posted to dita-frameusers, so ignore as needed ... I had an interesting discussion with the Frame Product Manager a few days ago at the London launch event for TCS3

Re: Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-22 Thread Tori Muir
On the other hand, faced with clients who keep asking me to port their Frame manuals into Word so they can make text edits, I would welcome a relatively inexpensive 'Frame Light product. As it presently stands, clients will not buy Frame, and find PDF markup cumbersome for extensive edits.

Re: Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-22 Thread Milan Davidović
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Dr Rick Smith r...@cryptosmith.com wrote: I admit I'm astonished that any software product manager could ask about the market for a Light version of their product. I thought the industry had already proven - time and again - that such things never thrive.

Re: Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-22 Thread Alan T Litchfield
On 23/02/2011, at 11:00 AM, Milan Davidović wrote: On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Dr Rick Smith r...@cryptosmith.com wrote: I admit I'm astonished that any software product manager could ask about the market for a Light version of their product. I thought the industry had already proven

RE: Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-22 Thread Flato, Gillian
this email unless absolutely necessary. From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Brad Anderson Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 2:21 PM To: Anthony Davey Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Frame Light, what's the potential

RE: Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-22 Thread Fred Ridder
Lightroom probably is a better fit for the description Photoshop Light than Elements is... Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:00:53 -0500 Subject: Re: Frame Light, what's the potential market? From: milan.li...@gmail.com To: r...@cryptosmith.com CC: framers@lists.frameusers.com On Tue, Feb 22

Re: Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-22 Thread Scott Prentice
at http://frameautomation.com *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Anthony Davey *Sent:* Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:57 AM *To:* framers@lists.frameusers.com *Subject:* Frame Light, what's the potential market? Cross

Re: Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-22 Thread Mike Wickham
I think it was a mistake for FrameMaker 10 not to include ePub output directly from FrameMaker. I can output an ePub straight from InDesign or straight from Apple Pages, but I need the full TCS3 to output ePub through RoboHelp. When I saw the announcement of RJ Jacquez' webinar on

Re: Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-22 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:19:35 -0600, Mike Wickham i...@mikewickham.com wrote: I think it was a mistake for FrameMaker 10 not to include ePub output directly from FrameMaker. I can output an ePub straight from InDesign or straight from Apple Pages, but I need the full TCS3 to output ePub

Re: Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-22 Thread Steve Johnson
and no gasoline. Just makes no sense whatsoever. 2011/2/22 Fred Ridder docu...@hotmail.com: Lightroom probably is a better fit for the description Photoshop Light than Elements is... Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:00:53 -0500 Subject: Re: Frame Light, what's the potential market? From: milan.li

Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-22 Thread Anthony Davey
Cross posted to dita-frameusers, so ignore as needed ... I had an interesting discussion with the Frame Product Manager a few days ago at the London launch event for TCS3. It seems there is the motivation to develop a business case for 'Frame Light' which could be used by SMEs to create and

Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-22 Thread Dr Rick Smith
I admit I'm astonished that any software product manager could ask about the market for a "Light" version of their product. I thought the industry had already proven - time and again - that such things never thrive. If they want to expand the market for Frame, why not bring back the Mac/Unix

Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-22 Thread Rick Quatro
Davey Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:57 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Frame Light, what's the potential market? Cross posted to dita-frameusers, so ignore as needed ... I had an interesting discussion with the Frame Product Manager a few days ago at the London launch even

Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-22 Thread Rick Quatro
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Davey Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:57 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Frame Light, what's the potential market? Cross posted to dita-frameusers, so ignore as needed ... I had an interesting discussion

Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-22 Thread Tori Muir
On the other hand, faced with clients who keep asking me to port their Frame manuals into Word so they can make text edits, I would welcome a relatively inexpensive 'Frame Light" product. As it presently stands, clients will not buy Frame, and find PDF markup cumbersome for extensive edits.

Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-22 Thread Brad Anderson
I, too, have wished for the capability for more than 10 years and have requested it numerous times from Adobe. This would be one way to bring back the Mac version--add FrameMaker lite to the App store. I think a price point of $99 or less would be great. There are too many of our clients

Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-22 Thread Milan Davidović
On Tue, Feb 22, 2011 at 4:14 PM, Dr Rick Smith wrote: > I admit I'm astonished that any software product manager could ask about the > market for a "Light" version of their product. > > I thought the industry had already proven - time and again - that such things > never thrive. Do you

Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-22 Thread Flato, Gillian
Please don't print this email unless absolutely necessary. From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Brad Anderson Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 2:21 PM To: Anthony Davey Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Frame Light,

Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-22 Thread Fred Ridder
Lightroom probably is a better fit for the description "Photoshop Light" than Elements is... > Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2011 17:00:53 -0500 > Subject: Re: Frame Light, what's the potential market? > From: milan.lists at gmail.com > To: rick at cryptosmith.com > CC: framer

Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-22 Thread Scott Prentice
ny Davey > *Sent:* Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:57 AM > *To:* framers at lists.frameusers.com > *Subject:* Frame Light, what's the potential market? > > > > Cross posted to dita-frameusers, so ignore as needed ... > > > > I had an interesting discussion with the

Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-22 Thread Mike Wickham
> I think it was a mistake for FrameMaker 10 not to include ePub output > directly from FrameMaker. I can output an ePub straight from InDesign > or straight from Apple Pages, but I need the full TCS3 to output ePub > through RoboHelp. > When I saw the announcement of RJ Jacquez' webinar on

Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-22 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Tue, 22 Feb 2011 18:19:35 -0600, Mike Wickham wrote: > >> I think it was a mistake for FrameMaker 10 not to include ePub output >> directly from FrameMaker. I can output an ePub straight from InDesign >> or straight from Apple Pages, but I need the full TCS3 to output ePub >> through

Frame Light, what's the potential market?

2011-02-22 Thread Fei Min Lorente
n't needed by everyone, but for some of us, it would be perfect. Fei Min From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Anthony Davey Sent: Tuesday, February 22, 2011 5:57 AM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Subject: Frame Lig