Re: I suspect the answer is 'no', but...

2011-03-15 Thread Bill Swallow 
Avoid human error and make the company name a variable. Plus, when they
decide to rebrand down the road (likely when and not if) you only need to
make the change in one place. :)

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Tori Muir tm...@spot-on-creative.comwrote:

  And further to this point: production artist has confirmed she was not
 using the character tag -- David's correct, if the tag is used, all works as
 it should.


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Re: I suspect the answer is 'no', but...

2011-03-15 Thread Steve Rickaby 
At 09:48 -0400 15/3/11, Bill Swallow wrote:

Avoid human error and make the company name a variable. Plus, when they decide 
to rebrand down the road (likely when and not if) you only need to make the 
change in one place. :)

And while you're at it, make all the product names variables too ;-)

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Re: I suspect the answer is 'no', but...

2011-03-15 Thread Jerilynne MamaRed Knight 
Amen...every time I think oh, those variables are not needed I get bit in
the bum! I now have a standard set of variables for company name, addresses
(physical, web, etc.), contact information, tag lines, etc. that I using as
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the tm after the tag line or whatever the could-be massive change is. I
love variables and SO miss them when I get to work with Microsoft Weird.

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 At 09:48 -0400 15/3/11, Bill Swallow wrote:

 Avoid human error and make the company name a variable. Plus, when they
 decide to rebrand down the road (likely when and not if) you only need to
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 And while you're at it, make all the product names variables too ;-)

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I suspect the answer is 'no', but...

2011-03-15 Thread Bill Swallow 
Avoid human error and make the company name a variable. Plus, when they
decide to rebrand down the road (likely when and not if) you only need to
make the change in one place. :)

On Mon, Mar 14, 2011 at 8:33 PM, Tori Muir wrote:

>  And further to this point: production artist has confirmed she was not
> using the character tag -- David's correct, if the tag is used, all works as
> it should.
>

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2011-03-15 Thread Steve Rickaby 
At 09:48 -0400 15/3/11, Bill Swallow wrote:

>Avoid human error and make the company name a variable. Plus, when they decide 
>to rebrand down the road (likely when and not if) you only need to make the 
>change in one place. :)

And while you're at it, make all the product names variables too ;-)

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I suspect the answer is 'no', but...

2011-03-15 Thread Jerilynne "MamaRed" Knight 
Amen...every time I think "oh, those variables are not needed" I get bit in
the bum! I now have a standard set of variables for company name, addresses
(physical, web, etc.), contact information, tag lines, etc. that I using as
a starting point for every project. Has saved me LOTS of headaches when a
client calls and says "oh goodness, I didn't realize  legal wanted us to use
the tm after the tag line" or whatever the could-be massive change is. I
love variables and SO miss them when I "get" to work with Microsoft Weird.

On Tue, Mar 15, 2011 at 1:00 PM, Steve Rickaby <
srickaby at wordmongers.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> At 09:48 -0400 15/3/11, Bill Swallow wrote:
>
> >Avoid human error and make the company name a variable. Plus, when they
> decide to rebrand down the road (likely when and not if) you only need to
> make the change in one place. :)
>
> And while you're at it, make all the product names variables too ;-)
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2011-03-14 Thread Tori Muir 
Client has a product whose name includes a superscript (pause for 
2-minute hate session -- why do clients think it's so clever to do that? 
Creates baskets of hassle!) When we create cross-references to text 
which includes that product name, it's not superscripted in the 
cross-ref text.


I don't suppose there's any way to get it to be superscripted in the 
cross-ref text?


If (as I suspect) there is no way to do so, the only thing I can think 
of doing is as a very last step before PDF, create a 'disposable' copy 
of the book, run thru it for all cross-refs containing that product name 
and convert them to text. Then generate PDF and manually add links to 
those cross-refs in the PDF. Is there a better way?


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Re: I suspect the answer is 'no', but...

2011-03-14 Thread Tori Muir 




Hmmm... we're using Frame 9. I know the template has a superscript
character tag in it, but the production artist might not be using it
correctly -- good thing to check! 
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David Spreadbury wrote:

  

  
Tori,
You don't mention what version of Frame you are using, but I tried it
in Frame 7.2 and it worked just fine.

You need to create a Character Format for superscript. In the Character
Designer leave everything As Is except check the Superscript check-box.

In Frame, apply the character format to the portion of your product
that is to be superscripted. Create a cross-reference to that,
typically, heading, and voila, the cross-ref looks just like the
heading.

I create a title containing My Product1, and superscripted the 1.

The cross-reference was to the title content
URL\'elemtext\' which gives me, in Blue "My Product1"
(with the 1 superscripted).

--- On Mon, 3/14/11, Tori Muir tm...@spot-on-creative.com
wrote:

From: Tori Muir tm...@spot-on-creative.com
Subject: I suspect the answer is 'no', but...
To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 6:21 PM
  
  Client has a product whose name
includes a superscript (pause for 2-minute hate session -- why do
clients think it's so clever to do that? Creates baskets of hassle!)
When we create cross-references to text which includes that product
name, it's not superscripted in the cross-ref text.
  
I don't suppose there's any way to get it to be superscripted in the
cross-ref text?
  
If (as I suspect) there is no way to do so, the only thing I can think
of doing is as a very last step before PDF, create a 'disposable' copy
of the book, run thru it for all cross-refs containing that product
name and convert them to text. Then generate PDF and manually add links
to those cross-refs in the PDF. Is there a better way?
  
-- Tori Muir
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• 650.430.8674
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Re: I suspect the answer is 'no', but...

2011-03-14 Thread Tori Muir 




And further to this point: production artist has confirmed she was not
using the character tag -- David's correct, if the tag is used, all
works as it should. 
Tori Muir
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www.spot-on-creative.com 


Tori Muir wrote:

  
Hmmm... we're using Frame 9. I know the template has a superscript
character tag in it, but the production artist might not be using it
correctly -- good thing to check! 
  Tori Muir
tm...@spot-on-creative.com • 650.430.8674
www.spot-on-creative.com 
  
  
David Spreadbury wrote:
  

  

  Tori,
You don't mention what version of Frame you are using, but I tried it
in Frame 7.2 and it worked just fine.
  
You need to create a Character Format for superscript. In the Character
Designer leave everything As Is except check the Superscript check-box.
  
In Frame, apply the character format to the portion of your product
that is to be superscripted. Create a cross-reference to that,
typically, heading, and voila, the cross-ref looks just like the
heading.
  
I create a title containing My Product1, and superscripted the 1.
  
The cross-reference was to the title content
URL\'elemtext\' which gives me, in Blue "My Product1"
(with the 1 superscripted).
  
--- On Mon, 3/14/11, Tori Muir tm...@spot-on-creative.com
wrote:
  
From: Tori Muir tm...@spot-on-creative.com
Subject: I suspect the answer is 'no', but...
To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com"
framers@lists.frameusers.com
Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 6:21 PM

Client has a product whose name
includes a superscript (pause for 2-minute hate session -- why do
clients think it's so clever to do that? Creates baskets of hassle!)
When we create cross-references to text which includes that product
name, it's not superscripted in the cross-ref text.

I don't suppose there's any way to get it to be superscripted in the
cross-ref text?

If (as I suspect) there is no way to do so, the only thing I can think
of doing is as a very last step before PDF, create a 'disposable' copy
of the book, run thru it for all cross-refs containing that product
name and convert them to text. Then generate PDF and manually add links
to those cross-refs in the PDF. Is there a better way?

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I suspect the answer is 'no', but...

2011-03-14 Thread Tori Muir 
Client has a product whose name includes a superscript (pause for 
2-minute hate session -- why do clients think it's so clever to do that? 
Creates baskets of hassle!) When we create cross-references to text 
which includes that product name, it's not superscripted in the 
cross-ref text.

I don't suppose there's any way to get it to be superscripted in the 
cross-ref text?

If (as I suspect) there is no way to do so, the only thing I can think 
of doing is as a very last step before PDF, create a 'disposable' copy 
of the book, run thru it for all cross-refs containing that product name 
and convert them to text. Then generate PDF and manually add links to 
those cross-refs in the PDF. Is there a better way?

-- 
Tori Muir
tmuir at spot-on-creative.com ? 650.430.8674
www.spot-on-creative.com

I suspect the answer is 'no', but...

2011-03-14 Thread David Spreadbury 
Tori,
You don't mention what version of Frame you are using, but I tried it in Frame 
7.2 and it worked just fine.

You need to create a Character Format for superscript. In the Character 
Designer leave everything As Is except check the Superscript check-box.

In Frame, apply the character format to the portion of your product that is to 
be superscripted. Create a cross-reference to that, typically, heading, and 
voila, the cross-ref looks just like the heading.

I create a title containing My Product1, and superscripted the 1.

The cross-reference was to the title content \'\' which gives 
me, in Blue "My Product1" (with the 1 superscripted).

--- On Mon, 3/14/11, Tori Muir  wrote:

From: Tori Muir <tm...@spot-on-creative.com>
Subject: I suspect the answer is 'no', but...
To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" 
Date: Monday, March 14, 2011, 6:21 PM

Client has a product whose name includes a superscript (pause for 2-minute hate 
session -- why do clients think it's so clever to do that? Creates baskets of 
hassle!) When we create cross-references to text which includes that product 
name, it's not superscripted in the cross-ref text.

I don't suppose there's any way to get it to be superscripted in the cross-ref 
text?

If (as I suspect) there is no way to do so, the only thing I can think of doing 
is as a very last step before PDF, create a 'disposable' copy of the book, run 
thru it for all cross-refs containing that product name and convert them to 
text. Then generate PDF and manually add links to those cross-refs in the PDF. 
Is there a better way?

-- Tori Muir
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