Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
You would lose it if another table began below the last part of the split table. On 2014-Oct-02 5:43 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: If the heading is in the header or footer, you don't lose the title. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: Not a bad idea, but this is the corporate style. We're also not single-sourcing. (We were moving to that, but then the company got acquired and the techcomm department was decentralized. But that's a whole other story.) Even if it were my call, I'm not sure I'd go that way. If the table splits across a page, you lose the title. And these tables can go on for a couple of pages, depending on the content.. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: In a situation like that, I use headings instead of table names. In a single-source environment, headings are more flexible. -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
On 2014-Oct-01 7:01 PM, Mike Wickham wrote: Stuart, I haven't had need to work with text insets, but I'm wondering if you can shorten your procedure by inserting the non-breaking space into the autonumber format for the InsetAnchor paragraph format, and setting its position to End of paragraph. It seems like that would automatically add it where you want. Have you tried it? I have. It did not work. The n-b space character appeared at the right margin, while the pilcrow remained at the left margin. When I placed the cursor ahead of the pilcrow and inserted the text inset, there was no character between it and the pilcrow. Updating the inset triggered the formatting bug. Thanks for the suggestion, though! s. -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
What is the benefit of putting a table anchor in its own paragraphs instead of putting the anchor at the end of the preceding paragraph? I've inherited lots of documents that do things like that and it seemed to me like pointless busywork, but the people who set up the templates were long gone so I couldn't ask for their rationale. On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote: If you prefer to have your tables in dedicated paragraphs ... ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
At 12:23 -0700 2/10/14, Robert Lauriston wrote: What is the benefit of putting a table anchor in its own paragraphs instead of putting the anchor at the end of the preceding paragraph? I've inherited lots of documents that do things like that and it seemed to me like pointless busywork, but the people who set up the templates were long gone so I couldn't ask for their rationale. Main reason AFAIK is what happens to the text holding a table anchor when FrameMaker moves the table to the next page: some of the para holding the anchor is dragged there too, leaving excess white space at the foot of the preceding page. There are many ways around this, but most of them become easier to manage if the table anchor lives in its own para. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
On 2014-Oct-02 3:23 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: What is the benefit of putting a table anchor in its own paragraphs instead of putting the anchor at the end of the preceding paragraph? I've inherited lots of documents that do things like that and it seemed to me like pointless busywork, but the people who set up the templates were long gone so I couldn't ask for their rationale. On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote: If you prefer to have your tables in dedicated paragraphs ... It gives you greater control over spacing and positioning, without having to override the preceding paragraph's tag settings. -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5 +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
I like to use my cursor keys to scroll from table to table, and putting each table anchor in its own paragraph lets me do that. If they're all on the same line, pressing the up or down arrow once pops you to the beginning or end of all of the tables that are anchored in the same line. I do a lot of documents with hundreds of tables that are one right after the other, so having an anchor anywhere but on its own line becomes a nuisance. Putting all the anchors in the same line also makes it much difficult to select just one table, since unless you are VERY disciplined about putting a space between them, FM drops the anchors on top of each other. And (again) if you have a lot of them, even using just a small space between can make the anchors wrap to another line (or three or four), which messes up your spacing all over again but for a different reason. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote: On 2014-Oct-02 3:23 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: What is the benefit of putting a table anchor in its own paragraphs instead of putting the anchor at the end of the preceding paragraph? I've inherited lots of documents that do things like that and it seemed to me like pointless busywork, but the people who set up the templates were long gone so I couldn't ask for their rationale. On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 2:38 PM, Stuart Rogerssrog...@phoenix-geophysics.com srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote: If you prefer to have your tables in dedicated paragraphs ... It gives you greater control over spacing and positioning, without having to override the preceding paragraph's tag settings. -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited 3781 Victoria Park Avenue, Unit 3 Toronto, ON, Canada M1W 3K5+1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 http://www.phoenix-geophysics.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as ljsims...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/ljsims.ml%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
I would never have one table follow another without a heading or explanatory text in between. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: I like to use my cursor keys to scroll from table to table, and putting each table anchor in its own paragraph lets me do that. If they're all on the same line, pressing the up or down arrow once pops you to the beginning or end of all of the tables that are anchored in the same line. I do a lot of documents with hundreds of tables that are one right after the other, so having an anchor anywhere but on its own line becomes a nuisance. Putting all the anchors in the same line also makes it much difficult to select just one table, since unless you are VERY disciplined about putting a space between them, FM drops the anchors on top of each other. And (again) if you have a lot of them, even using just a small space between can make the anchors wrap to another line (or three or four), which messes up your spacing all over again but for a different reason. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote: On 2014-Oct-02 3:23 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: What is the benefit of putting a table anchor in its own paragraphs instead of putting the anchor at the end of the preceding paragraph? I've inherited lots of documents that do things like that and it seemed to me like pointless busywork, but the people who set up the templates were long gone so I couldn't ask for their rationale. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
I'm describing IC chip registers. There is absolutely no point in having text or a heading in between each one, and this particular piece of IP has about 500 or so of them. As always, it depends on what you're doing and who your audience is. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: I would never have one table follow another without a heading or explanatory text in between. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: I like to use my cursor keys to scroll from table to table, and putting each table anchor in its own paragraph lets me do that. If they're all on the same line, pressing the up or down arrow once pops you to the beginning or end of all of the tables that are anchored in the same line. I do a lot of documents with hundreds of tables that are one right after the other, so having an anchor anywhere but on its own line becomes a nuisance. Putting all the anchors in the same line also makes it much difficult to select just one table, since unless you are VERY disciplined about putting a space between them, FM drops the anchors on top of each other. And (again) if you have a lot of them, even using just a small space between can make the anchors wrap to another line (or three or four), which messes up your spacing all over again but for a different reason. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote: On 2014-Oct-02 3:23 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: What is the benefit of putting a table anchor in its own paragraphs instead of putting the anchor at the end of the preceding paragraph? I've inherited lots of documents that do things like that and it seemed to me like pointless busywork, but the people who set up the templates were long gone so I couldn't ask for their rationale. -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
How do users find the one they're looking for? On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: I'm describing IC chip registers. There is absolutely no point in having text or a heading in between each one, and this particular piece of IP has about 500 or so of them. As always, it depends on what you're doing and who your audience is. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: I would never have one table follow another without a heading or explanatory text in between. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: I like to use my cursor keys to scroll from table to table, and putting each table anchor in its own paragraph lets me do that. If they're all on the same line, pressing the up or down arrow once pops you to the beginning or end of all of the tables that are anchored in the same line. I do a lot of documents with hundreds of tables that are one right after the other, so having an anchor anywhere but on its own line becomes a nuisance. Putting all the anchors in the same line also makes it much difficult to select just one table, since unless you are VERY disciplined about putting a space between them, FM drops the anchors on top of each other. And (again) if you have a lot of them, even using just a small space between can make the anchors wrap to another line (or three or four), which messes up your spacing all over again but for a different reason. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote: On 2014-Oct-02 3:23 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: What is the benefit of putting a table anchor in its own paragraphs instead of putting the anchor at the end of the preceding paragraph? I've inherited lots of documents that do things like that and it seemed to me like pointless busywork, but the people who set up the templates were long gone so I couldn't ask for their rationale. -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
For the registers, we list all the table names as active links in a table upfront. But if I am simply scanning through the tables, I find it easier to use the cursor button than the mouse wheel. Your mileage may, of course, vary. There are also places where a brief paragraph introduces a set of tables. The data wouldn't work well combined into single table, and I'm not about to say, The following table describes X when I've already said it up above. It annoys my engineers and the customer engineers. If I were in a different environment producing docs for a different audience, I would very likely be introducing each table with some text. In this environment, with this highly technical audience, it is neither necessary nor wanted. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: How do users find the one they're looking for? On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: I'm describing IC chip registers. There is absolutely no point in having text or a heading in between each one, and this particular piece of IP has about 500 or so of them. As always, it depends on what you're doing and who your audience is. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: I would never have one table follow another without a heading or explanatory text in between. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: I like to use my cursor keys to scroll from table to table, and putting each table anchor in its own paragraph lets me do that. If they're all on the same line, pressing the up or down arrow once pops you to the beginning or end of all of the tables that are anchored in the same line. I do a lot of documents with hundreds of tables that are one right after the other, so having an anchor anywhere but on its own line becomes a nuisance. Putting all the anchors in the same line also makes it much difficult to select just one table, since unless you are VERY disciplined about putting a space between them, FM drops the anchors on top of each other. And (again) if you have a lot of them, even using just a small space between can make the anchors wrap to another line (or three or four), which messes up your spacing all over again but for a different reason. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote: On 2014-Oct-02 3:23 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: What is the benefit of putting a table anchor in its own paragraphs instead of putting the anchor at the end of the preceding paragraph? I've inherited lots of documents that do things like that and it seemed to me like pointless busywork, but the people who set up the templates were long gone so I couldn't ask for their rationale. -- Lin Sims -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
In a situation like that, I use headings instead of table names. In a single-source environment, headings are more flexible. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: For the registers, we list all the table names as active links in a table upfront. But if I am simply scanning through the tables, I find it easier to use the cursor button than the mouse wheel. Your mileage may, of course, vary. There are also places where a brief paragraph introduces a set of tables. The data wouldn't work well combined into single table, and I'm not about to say, The following table describes X when I've already said it up above. It annoys my engineers and the customer engineers. If I were in a different environment producing docs for a different audience, I would very likely be introducing each table with some text. In this environment, with this highly technical audience, it is neither necessary nor wanted. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: How do users find the one they're looking for? On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: I'm describing IC chip registers. There is absolutely no point in having text or a heading in between each one, and this particular piece of IP has about 500 or so of them. As always, it depends on what you're doing and who your audience is. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: I would never have one table follow another without a heading or explanatory text in between. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: I like to use my cursor keys to scroll from table to table, and putting each table anchor in its own paragraph lets me do that. If they're all on the same line, pressing the up or down arrow once pops you to the beginning or end of all of the tables that are anchored in the same line. I do a lot of documents with hundreds of tables that are one right after the other, so having an anchor anywhere but on its own line becomes a nuisance. Putting all the anchors in the same line also makes it much difficult to select just one table, since unless you are VERY disciplined about putting a space between them, FM drops the anchors on top of each other. And (again) if you have a lot of them, even using just a small space between can make the anchors wrap to another line (or three or four), which messes up your spacing all over again but for a different reason. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote: On 2014-Oct-02 3:23 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: What is the benefit of putting a table anchor in its own paragraphs instead of putting the anchor at the end of the preceding paragraph? I've inherited lots of documents that do things like that and it seemed to me like pointless busywork, but the people who set up the templates were long gone so I couldn't ask for their rationale. -- Lin Sims -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
Not a bad idea, but this is the corporate style. We're also not single-sourcing. (We were moving to that, but then the company got acquired and the techcomm department was decentralized. But that's a whole other story.) Even if it were my call, I'm not sure I'd go that way. If the table splits across a page, you lose the title. And these tables can go on for a couple of pages, depending on the content.. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: In a situation like that, I use headings instead of table names. In a single-source environment, headings are more flexible. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: For the registers, we list all the table names as active links in a table upfront. But if I am simply scanning through the tables, I find it easier to use the cursor button than the mouse wheel. Your mileage may, of course, vary. There are also places where a brief paragraph introduces a set of tables. The data wouldn't work well combined into single table, and I'm not about to say, The following table describes X when I've already said it up above. It annoys my engineers and the customer engineers. If I were in a different environment producing docs for a different audience, I would very likely be introducing each table with some text. In this environment, with this highly technical audience, it is neither necessary nor wanted. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: How do users find the one they're looking for? On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: I'm describing IC chip registers. There is absolutely no point in having text or a heading in between each one, and this particular piece of IP has about 500 or so of them. As always, it depends on what you're doing and who your audience is. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: I would never have one table follow another without a heading or explanatory text in between. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: I like to use my cursor keys to scroll from table to table, and putting each table anchor in its own paragraph lets me do that. If they're all on the same line, pressing the up or down arrow once pops you to the beginning or end of all of the tables that are anchored in the same line. I do a lot of documents with hundreds of tables that are one right after the other, so having an anchor anywhere but on its own line becomes a nuisance. Putting all the anchors in the same line also makes it much difficult to select just one table, since unless you are VERY disciplined about putting a space between them, FM drops the anchors on top of each other. And (again) if you have a lot of them, even using just a small space between can make the anchors wrap to another line (or three or four), which messes up your spacing all over again but for a different reason. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote: On 2014-Oct-02 3:23 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: What is the benefit of putting a table anchor in its own paragraphs instead of putting the anchor at the end of the preceding paragraph? I've inherited lots of documents that do things like that and it seemed to me like pointless busywork, but the people who set up the templates were long gone so I couldn't ask for their rationale. -- Lin Sims -- Lin Sims -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
If the heading is in the header or footer, you don't lose the title. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:19 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: Not a bad idea, but this is the corporate style. We're also not single-sourcing. (We were moving to that, but then the company got acquired and the techcomm department was decentralized. But that's a whole other story.) Even if it were my call, I'm not sure I'd go that way. If the table splits across a page, you lose the title. And these tables can go on for a couple of pages, depending on the content.. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 5:14 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: In a situation like that, I use headings instead of table names. In a single-source environment, headings are more flexible. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 2:10 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: For the registers, we list all the table names as active links in a table upfront. But if I am simply scanning through the tables, I find it easier to use the cursor button than the mouse wheel. Your mileage may, of course, vary. There are also places where a brief paragraph introduces a set of tables. The data wouldn't work well combined into single table, and I'm not about to say, The following table describes X when I've already said it up above. It annoys my engineers and the customer engineers. If I were in a different environment producing docs for a different audience, I would very likely be introducing each table with some text. In this environment, with this highly technical audience, it is neither necessary nor wanted. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:48 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: How do users find the one they're looking for? On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:34 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: I'm describing IC chip registers. There is absolutely no point in having text or a heading in between each one, and this particular piece of IP has about 500 or so of them. As always, it depends on what you're doing and who your audience is. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 4:26 PM, Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com wrote: I would never have one table follow another without a heading or explanatory text in between. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 1:20 PM, Lin Sims ljsims...@gmail.com wrote: I like to use my cursor keys to scroll from table to table, and putting each table anchor in its own paragraph lets me do that. If they're all on the same line, pressing the up or down arrow once pops you to the beginning or end of all of the tables that are anchored in the same line. I do a lot of documents with hundreds of tables that are one right after the other, so having an anchor anywhere but on its own line becomes a nuisance. Putting all the anchors in the same line also makes it much difficult to select just one table, since unless you are VERY disciplined about putting a space between them, FM drops the anchors on top of each other. And (again) if you have a lot of them, even using just a small space between can make the anchors wrap to another line (or three or four), which messes up your spacing all over again but for a different reason. On Thu, Oct 2, 2014 at 3:53 PM, Stuart Rogers srog...@phoenix-geophysics.com wrote: On 2014-Oct-02 3:23 PM, Robert Lauriston wrote: What is the benefit of putting a table anchor in its own paragraphs instead of putting the anchor at the end of the preceding paragraph? I've inherited lots of documents that do things like that and it seemed to me like pointless busywork, but the people who set up the templates were long gone so I couldn't ask for their rationale. -- Lin Sims -- Lin Sims -- Lin Sims ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Insets and Tables: container paragraphs with no additional spacing
Stuart, I haven't had need to work with text insets, but I'm wondering if you can shorten your procedure by inserting the non-breaking space into the autonumber format for the InsetAnchor paragraph format, and setting its position to End of paragraph. It seems like that would automatically add it where you want. Have you tried it? Mike Wickham On 10/1/2014 4:38 PM, Stuart Rogers wrote: For insets (harder to maintain, depending on inset content), create a pgf tag in the container document, e.g., InsetAnchor: Font Size: 12 pt Color: (something other than black) Spacing Above Pgf: --12.0 pt In the inset source document, create a variant tag based on the last paragraph of the inset (e.g., BodyInsetLast as a variant of Body): Spacing Below Pgf: --12.0 pt (negative 12 points) Apply that tag to the last paragraph of the inset. In the container document, create a new empty paragraph where you want the inset to go. Tag the paragraph InsetAnchor. In that paragraph, type a non-breaking space (to overcome the bug that reformats the paragraph on updating the inset). Place your cursor just before the non-breaking space and import the inset. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
