RE: MIF question

2006-05-31 Thread David Schor
Doug,

A MIF file is an alternative form of a FrameMaker file, functioning like
an INI file for a FrameMaker document. It is an ASCII text file which
contains values describing every element of a FrameMaker FM file, such
as text, formatting values of paragraphs/characters/tables, reference
pointers and links, and more. You can open it in a Text editor such as
Notepad. It is useful for troubleshooting, or transferring an FM file
for use in other applications. Many times, I converted files to MIF in
order to change link paths on a Find/Replace basis. Sometimes,
converting a weirdly behaving FM file to MIF and then back again helps
clean the file (repeat - sometimes).

HTH,
David

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Hello fellow FrameUsers

I've been a technical writer for about seven years and have followed
this
list off and on during that time. I've seen references to MIF files but
I
have no understanding as to their purpose or use. If someone would care
to
enlighten me, who knows, maybe I've been missing out on a very useful
tool
or resource.

Thanks for past help.

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AW: MIF question

2006-05-31 Thread Reng, Winfried
Hi,

A FrameMaker binary file saved as MIF will represent the
exact same info as the binary fm format in an ASCII format.
This ASCII foramt is even understandable for humans. You
can create MIF files from scratch with a text editor or a
database application.

MIF files do not need to be full FrameMaker files. They
can also contain just variable definitions or cross-reference
definitions. These small MIF files are usually called MIF
snippets. You can import them (Copy into Document) to
switch formats for another language.

When you only want to view MIF files I recommend the
free MIF viewer MIFBrowse:
http://www.wideman-one.com/gw/tech/framemaker/mifbrowse.htm

Most other tools can only import MIF files but not fm files.

Best regards

Winfried

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 Von: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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 Auftrag von John Posada
 Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. Mai 2006 17:03
 An: McKinney, Doug; 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'
 Betreff: Re: MIF question
 
 
 MIF is to FM as RTF is to DOC. It is a plain text version of a binary
 FM file.
 
 Take an FM document and save as MIF, then open in a text editor such
 as Wordpad, Crimson, Text, or something other than FM. You'll see
 what it looks like. 
 
  I've been a technical writer for about seven years and have
  followed this list off and on during that time. I've seen
  references to MIF files but I have no understanding as to their
  purpose or use. If someone would care to
  enlighten me, who knows, maybe I've been missing out on a very
  useful tool or resource.
 
 John Posada
 Senior Technical Writer
 
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MIF question

2006-05-31 Thread David Schor
Doug,

A MIF file is an alternative form of a FrameMaker file, functioning like
an INI file for a FrameMaker document. It is an ASCII text file which
contains values describing every element of a FrameMaker FM file, such
as text, formatting values of paragraphs/characters/tables, reference
pointers and links, and more. You can open it in a Text editor such as
Notepad. It is useful for troubleshooting, or transferring an FM file
for use in other applications. Many times, I converted files to MIF in
order to change link paths on a Find/Replace basis. Sometimes,
converting a weirdly behaving FM file to MIF and then back again helps
clean the file (repeat - sometimes).

HTH,
David

David Schor
Technical Communication Manager
Emblaze-VCON Ltd.
Tel: (+972) 9 7627820
Mobile: 054 4788253
davids at emblaze-vcon.com
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Behalf Of McKinney, Doug
Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 4:56 PM
To: 'framers at lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: MIF question

Hello fellow FrameUsers

I've been a technical writer for about seven years and have followed
this
list off and on during that time. I've seen references to MIF files but
I
have no understanding as to their purpose or use. If someone would care
to
enlighten me, who knows, maybe I've been missing out on a very useful
tool
or resource.

Thanks for past help.

Doug Mckinney
Technical Writer
Datron World Communications Inc.
www.dmckinney at dtwc.com

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AW: MIF question

2006-05-31 Thread Reng, Winfried
Hi,

A FrameMaker binary file saved as MIF will represent the
exact same info as the binary fm format in an ASCII format.
This ASCII foramt is even understandable for humans. You
can create MIF files from scratch with a text editor or a
database application.

MIF files do not need to be full FrameMaker files. They
can also contain just variable definitions or cross-reference
definitions. These small MIF files are usually called MIF
snippets. You can import them ("Copy into Document") to
switch formats for another language.

When you only want to view MIF files I recommend the
free MIF viewer MIFBrowse:
http://www.wideman-one.com/gw/tech/framemaker/mifbrowse.htm

Most other tools can only import MIF files but not fm files.

Best regards

Winfried

> -Urspr?ngliche Nachricht-
> Von: framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com
> [mailto:framers-bounces+wreng=tycoint.com at lists.frameusers.com]Im
> Auftrag von John Posada
> Gesendet: Dienstag, 30. Mai 2006 17:03
> An: McKinney, Doug; 'framers at lists.frameusers.com'
> Betreff: Re: MIF question
> 
> 
> MIF is to FM as RTF is to DOC. It is a plain text version of a binary
> FM file.
> 
> Take an FM document and save as MIF, then open in a text editor such
> as Wordpad, Crimson, Text, or something other than FM. You'll see
> what it looks like. 
> 
> > I've been a technical writer for about seven years and have
> > followed this list off and on during that time. I've seen
> > references to MIF files but I have no understanding as to their
> > purpose or use. If someone would care to
> > enlighten me, who knows, maybe I've been missing out on a very
> > useful tool or resource.
> 
> John Posada
> Senior Technical Writer
> 
> "So long and thanks for all the fish."



Re: MIF question

2006-05-30 Thread John Posada
MIF is to FM as RTF is to DOC. It is a plain text version of a binary
FM file.

Take an FM document and save as MIF, then open in a text editor such
as Wordpad, Crimson, Text, or something other than FM. You'll see
what it looks like. 

 I've been a technical writer for about seven years and have
 followed this list off and on during that time. I've seen
 references to MIF files but I have no understanding as to their
 purpose or use. If someone would care to
 enlighten me, who knows, maybe I've been missing out on a very
 useful tool or resource.

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

So long and thanks for all the fish.
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RE: MIF question

2006-05-30 Thread Fred Ridder

But you can save all files in the book in .fm format in one operation, too.
Simply hold down the Shift key when you pull down the File menu from
the book window, and you'll find that the one-file operations are now
indicated as applying to all files in book. Open them all, save them all,
or close them all with a single command.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder
Intel
Parsippany, NJ



From: Morgan Morrissette [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: John Posada [EMAIL PROTECTED], McKinney, Doug 
[EMAIL PROTECTED],framers@lists.frameusers.com

Subject: RE: MIF question
Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 10:25:13 -0500

I've found that with a book, I can use MIF Save and save the entire book 
rather than having to save one chapter at a time.  For me it has been a 
time (and grey hair) saver


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From: John Posada [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: May 30, 2006 10:03 AM
To: McKinney, Doug; 'framers@lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: Re: MIF question
Importance: High


MIF is to FM as RTF is to DOC. It is a plain text version of a binary
FM file.

Take an FM document and save as MIF, then open in a text editor such
as Wordpad, Crimson, Text, or something other than FM. You'll see
what it looks like.

 I've been a technical writer for about seven years and have
 followed this list off and on during that time. I've seen
 references to MIF files but I have no understanding as to their
 purpose or use. If someone would care to
 enlighten me, who knows, maybe I've been missing out on a very
 useful tool or resource.

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer


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MIF question

2006-05-30 Thread McKinney, Doug
Hello fellow FrameUsers

I've been a technical writer for about seven years and have followed this
list off and on during that time. I've seen references to MIF files but I
have no understanding as to their purpose or use. If someone would care to
enlighten me, who knows, maybe I've been missing out on a very useful tool
or resource.

Thanks for past help.

Doug Mckinney
Technical Writer
Datron World Communications Inc.
www.dmckinney at dtwc.com




MIF question

2006-05-30 Thread Spreadbury, David
Check out the MIF Reference Manual included with your FrameMaker
installation. It can be found in the Online Manuals folder in \Program
Files\Adobe\FrameMaker7.0\OnlineManuals.

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Sent: Tuesday, May 30, 2006 9:56 AM
To: 'framers at lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: MIF question

Hello fellow FrameUsers

I've been a technical writer for about seven years and have followed
this
list off and on during that time. I've seen references to MIF files but
I
have no understanding as to their purpose or use. If someone would care
to
enlighten me, who knows, maybe I've been missing out on a very useful
tool
or resource.

Thanks for past help.

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Technical Writer
Datron World Communications Inc.
www.dmckinney at dtwc.com

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MIF question

2006-05-30 Thread John Posada
MIF is to FM as RTF is to DOC. It is a plain text version of a binary
FM file.

Take an FM document and save as MIF, then open in a text editor such
as Wordpad, Crimson, Text, or something other than FM. You'll see
what it looks like. 

> I've been a technical writer for about seven years and have
> followed this list off and on during that time. I've seen
> references to MIF files but I have no understanding as to their
> purpose or use. If someone would care to
> enlighten me, who knows, maybe I've been missing out on a very
> useful tool or resource.

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

"So long and thanks for all the fish."



MIF question

2006-05-30 Thread Morgan Morrissette
I've found that with a book, I can use MIF Save and save the entire book rather 
than having to save one chapter at a time.  For me it has been a time (and grey 
hair) saver

-Original Message-
From: John Posada [mailto:jposad...@yahoo.com]
Sent: May 30, 2006 10:03 AM
To: McKinney, Doug; 'framers at lists.frameusers.com'
Subject: Re: MIF question
Importance: High


MIF is to FM as RTF is to DOC. It is a plain text version of a binary
FM file.

Take an FM document and save as MIF, then open in a text editor such
as Wordpad, Crimson, Text, or something other than FM. You'll see
what it looks like. 

> I've been a technical writer for about seven years and have
> followed this list off and on during that time. I've seen
> references to MIF files but I have no understanding as to their
> purpose or use. If someone would care to
> enlighten me, who knows, maybe I've been missing out on a very
> useful tool or resource.

John Posada
Senior Technical Writer

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MIF question

2006-05-30 Thread Christopher Jastram
Some people use MIF to make changes to documents using a plain text editor
or a scripting language.

Chris

On 5/30/06, Morgan Morrissette  wrote:
>
> I've found that with a book, I can use MIF Save and save the entire book
> rather than having to save one chapter at a time.  For me it has been a time
> (and grey hair) saver
>
> -Original Message-
> From: John Posada [mailto:jposada01 at yahoo.com]
> Sent: May 30, 2006 10:03 AM
> To: McKinney, Doug; 'framers at lists.frameusers.com'
> Subject: Re: MIF question
> Importance: High
>
>
> MIF is to FM as RTF is to DOC. It is a plain text version of a binary
> FM file.
>
> Take an FM document and save as MIF, then open in a text editor such
> as Wordpad, Crimson, Text, or something other than FM. You'll see
> what it looks like.
>
> > I've been a technical writer for about seven years and have
> > followed this list off and on during that time. I've seen
> > references to MIF files but I have no understanding as to their
> > purpose or use. If someone would care to
> > enlighten me, who knows, maybe I've been missing out on a very
> > useful tool or resource.
>
> John Posada
> Senior Technical Writer
>
> "So long and thanks for all the fish."
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MIF question

2006-05-30 Thread Fred Ridder
But you can save all files in the book in .fm format in one operation, too.
Simply hold down the Shift key when you pull down the File menu from
the book window, and you'll find that the one-file operations are now
indicated as applying to "all files in book". Open them all, save them all,
or close them all with a single command.

My opinions only; I don't speak for Intel.
Fred Ridder
Intel
Parsippany, NJ


>From: "Morgan Morrissette" 
>To: "John Posada" , "McKinney, Doug" 
>,
>Subject: RE: MIF question
>Date: Tue, 30 May 2006 10:25:13 -0500
>
>I've found that with a book, I can use MIF Save and save the entire book 
>rather than having to save one chapter at a time.  For me it has been a 
>time (and grey hair) saver
>
>-Original Message-
>From: John Posada [mailto:jposada01 at yahoo.com]
>Sent: May 30, 2006 10:03 AM
>To: McKinney, Doug; 'framers at lists.frameusers.com'
>Subject: Re: MIF question
>Importance: High
>
>
>MIF is to FM as RTF is to DOC. It is a plain text version of a binary
>FM file.
>
>Take an FM document and save as MIF, then open in a text editor such
>as Wordpad, Crimson, Text, or something other than FM. You'll see
>what it looks like.
>
> > I've been a technical writer for about seven years and have
> > followed this list off and on during that time. I've seen
> > references to MIF files but I have no understanding as to their
> > purpose or use. If someone would care to
> > enlighten me, who knows, maybe I've been missing out on a very
> > useful tool or resource.
>
>John Posada
>Senior Technical Writer

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