RE: Confirmation: : Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-20 Thread Diane Gaskill
Gaskill; Framers List Subject: Re: Confirmation: : Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals At 3:10 AM -0700 5/19/06, Diane Gaskill wrote: ALL of the documentation within the company - literally a billion pages or more - uses numbered headings. Yes, some of the docs are written by engineers

Confirmation: : Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-20 Thread Diane Gaskill
Gaskill; Framers List Subject: Re: Confirmation: : Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals At 3:10 AM -0700 5/19/06, Diane Gaskill wrote: > ALL of the >documentation within the company - literally a billion pages or more - uses >numbered headings. Yes, some of the docs ar

RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-19 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 11:16 -0700 18/5/06, Daniel Emory wrote: Nevertheless, this issue about numbering of titled headings, tables and graphics seems to come up frequently. It's a valid issue, and it deserves more discussion on the list. Surely the answer here is 'horses for courses'? There are many areas where

FM help and more: WAS: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-19 Thread Diane Gaskill
- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:08 PM To: Framers@frameusers.com Subject: RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals I'm not familiar with versions of FM help prior to vers. 7, which I am using. That, I can agree

Confirmation: : Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-19 Thread Diane Gaskill
or online. We use links in the online docs too, but they are xrefs and include the numbered headings they refer to. Diane === -Original Message- From: Daniel Emory Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 8:31 AM To: Framers List Subject: RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service

Re: Confirmation: : Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-19 Thread Peter Gold
At 3:10 AM -0700 5/19/06, Diane Gaskill wrote: ALL of the documentation within the company - literally a billion pages or more - uses numbered headings. Yes, some of the docs are written by engineers to other engineers, but much of the product documentation goes to the customers, most of whom

Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-19 Thread Gillian Flato
I appreciate everyone's feedback on this issue. I have learned a lot. So here's the long and short of what I did. After taking the numbered heads out of a very technical manual, my engineers asked me to put them back in. I talked to the software manager and he said that for this manual,

RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-19 Thread Daniel Emory
--- Steve Rickaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Surely the answer here is 'horses for courses'? There are many areas where numbering is either appropriate or essential (engineering manuals,legal documents, political documents, medical documents, repair manuals, ya-de-yah), and others where it is

Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-19 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 11:16 -0700 18/5/06, Daniel Emory wrote: >Nevertheless, this issue about numbering of titled headings, tables and >graphics seems to come up frequently. It's a valid issue, and it deserves more >discussion on the list. Surely the answer here is 'horses for courses'? There are many areas

FM help and more: WAS: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-19 Thread Diane Gaskill
Original Message- From: framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+dgcaller=earthlink.net at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Laura_J_Kirk at bd.com Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:08 PM To: Framers at frameusers.com Subject: RE: Numbering Systems f

Confirmation: : Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-19 Thread Diane Gaskill
or online. We use links in the online docs too, but they are xrefs and include the numbered headings they refer to. Diane === -Original Message- From: Daniel Emory Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 8:31 AM To: Framers List Subject: RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service

Confirmation: : Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-19 Thread Peter Gold
At 3:10 AM -0700 5/19/06, Diane Gaskill wrote: > ALL of the >documentation within the company - literally a billion pages or more - uses >numbered headings. Yes, some of the docs are written by engineers to other >engineers, but much of the product documentation goes to the customers, most >of

Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-19 Thread Gillian Flato
I appreciate everyone's feedback on this issue. I have learned a lot. So here's the long and short of what I did. After taking the numbered heads out of a very technical manual, my engineers asked me to put them back in. I talked to the software manager and he said that for this manual, (which

Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-19 Thread Daniel Emory
--- Steve Rickaby wrote: > Surely the answer here is 'horses for courses'? > There are many areas where numbering is either > appropriate or essential (engineering manuals,legal > documents, political documents, medical documents, > repair manuals, ya-de-yah), and others where it is > not. Legal

RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-18 Thread Daniel Emory
--- Linda G. Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it was necessary to single out my response and call what I said laughable. Your unqualified statement that the only people left who use such numbering schemes are engineers communicating with other

RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-18 Thread Anne Robotti
] meusers.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Emory Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 11:31 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Framers List Subject: RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals --- Linda G. Gallagher [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I don't think it was necessary to single out my response and call

RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-18 Thread Daniel Emory
--- Anne Robotti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this a private email from Linda that you posted to the list? How completely rude. = My mistake, and I apologize to Linda. The Framer's list, unlike some others, identifies the sender's name, not the list's name as the

RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-18 Thread Laura_J_Kirk
To Framers List framers@FrameUsers.com cc Subject RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals --- Anne Robotti [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is this a private email from Linda that you posted to the list? How completely rude. = My mistake, and I apologize to Linda

RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-18 Thread eric . dunn
Excellent post Dan. Your post was exactly what I wanted (but was too lazy) to post as soon as I saw the original post about numbering. Far too often I see technical writers complaining about layout, format, or organisation because they simply don't like it or it doesn't look right. And then

Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-18 Thread Daniel Emory
--- "Linda G. Gallagher" wrote: > I don't think it was necessary to single out my > response and call what I > said laughable. Your unqualified statement that the only people left who use such numbering schemes are engineers communicating with other engineers is

Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-18 Thread Anne Robotti
ister.com at lists.frameusers. > com > [mailto:framers-bounces+arobotti=journalregister.com at lists.fra meusers.com] On Behalf Of Daniel Emory > Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 11:31 AM > To: lindag at techcomplus.com > Cc: Framers List > Subject: RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Servic

Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-18 Thread Daniel Emory
--- Anne Robotti wrote: > Is this a private email from Linda that you posted > to the list? How > completely rude. = My mistake, and I apologize to Linda. The Framer's list, unlike some others, identifies the sender's name, not the list's name as the sender. My default

Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-18 Thread laura_j_k...@bd.com
ers.com 05/18/2006 02:16 PM To Framers List cc Subject RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals --- Anne Robotti wrote: > Is this a private email from Linda that you posted > to the list? How > completely rude. = My mistake, and I

"Intuitive software" WAS: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-18 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Laura: At 3:08 PM -0400 5/18/06, Laura_J_Kirk at bd.com wrote: >I'm not familiar with versions of FM help prior to vers. 7, which I am >using. That, I can agree wholeheartedly, sucks. > >As a self-taught FM user, it takes hours, literally hours to figure out >some new operation or feature in

Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-18 Thread eric.d...@ca.transport.bombardier.com
Excellent post Dan. Your post was exactly what I wanted (but was too lazy) to post as soon as I saw the original post about numbering. Far too often I see "technical" writers complaining about layout, format, or organisation because they simply "don't like it" or "it doesn't look right".

RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-17 Thread nancy carpenter
@frameusers.com Subject: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals Guys, When you write a Technical Manual do you number heads and sections with 1.1, 1.2, 1.2.1 etc. I have a manual which is essentially an API and it's numbered that way. It looks very cluttered to me. By taking that out and using

Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-17 Thread nancy carpenter
t lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Gillian Flato Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:09 PM To: framers at frameusers.com Subject: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals Guys, When you write a Technical Manual do you number heads and sections with 1.1, 1.2, 1.2.1 etc. I have a manual whic

Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-17 Thread Daniel Emory
--- "Linda G. Gallagher" wrote: > I only use that type of numbering when a client > insists on it. Typically, > those clients are engineers with content targeting > other engineers. == The complaint that prompted Ms. Gallagher's response was that multi-level

Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-16 Thread Gillian Flato
Guys, When you write a Technical Manual do you number heads and sections with 1.1, 1.2, 1.2.1 etc. I have a manual which is essentially an API and it's numbered that way. It looks very cluttered to me. By taking that out and using conventional styles, it has an easier UI to me. What's the

Re: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-16 Thread Art Campbell
I think it's still mostly used in environments where the manuals are written to a standard that requires it: MilSpec, BellCore, whatever In civilian docs, I think it's largely faded away. Art On 5/16/06, Gillian Flato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Guys, snip What's the general consensus on

RE: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-16 Thread Grant Hogarth
PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:20 PM To: Gillian Flato Cc: framers@frameusers.com Subject: Re: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals I think it's still mostly used in environments where the manuals are written to a standard

Re: Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-16 Thread Laura_J_Kirk
., and there was no fourth level). ljk ___ Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before. Gillian Flato [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent by: [EMAIL PROTECTED] 05/16/2006 03:09 PM To framers@frameusers.com cc Subject Numbering Systems for Technical Service

Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-16 Thread Gillian Flato
Guys, When you write a Technical Manual do you number heads and sections with 1.1, 1.2, 1.2.1 etc. I have a manual which is essentially an API and it's numbered that way. It looks very cluttered to me. By taking that out and using conventional styles, it has an easier UI to me. What's the

Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-16 Thread Art Campbell
I think it's still mostly used in environments where the manuals are written to a standard that requires it: MilSpec, BellCore, whatever In "civilian" docs, I think it's largely faded away. Art On 5/16/06, Gillian Flato wrote: > Guys, > What's the general consensus on numbering with the

Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-16 Thread Grant Hogarth
Original Message- From: framers-bounces+grant.hogarth=reuters@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+grant.hogarth=reuters.com at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:20 PM To: Gillian Flato Cc: framers at frameusers.com Subject: Re: Numbering

Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-16 Thread laura_j_k...@bd.com
., and there was no fourth level). ljk ___ Deja Moo: The feeling that you've heard this bull before. "Gillian Flato" Sent by: framers-bounces+laura_j_kirk=bd.com at lists.frameusers.com 05/16/2006 03:09 PM To cc Subject Numbering Systems for

Numbering Systems for Technical Service Manuals

2006-05-16 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
~~ -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+lindag=techcomplus@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+lindag=techcomplus.com at lists.frameusers.com]On Behalf Of Gillian Flato Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2006 1:09 PM To: framers at frameusers.com Subject: Numbering Systems for Technical Service