Kelly,
You wrote:
Quick Survey:
Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
computer display in preference to printing it for use? ...
Other than personal preferences and the type of content, key factors are
-- the extent to which the PDF is screen friendly (typography
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boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shlomo Perets
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:59 AM
To: kmcdan...@pavtech.com; fram...@frameusers.com
Subject: Re: PDF Documentation
Kelly,
You wrote:
Quick Survey:
Is it your experience that users view
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Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:59 AM
To: kmcdan...@pavtech.com; fram...@frameusers.com
Subject: Re: PDF Documentation
Kelly,
You wrote:
Quick Survey:
Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
computer display in preference
Kelly,
You wrote:
>Quick Survey:
>
>Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
>computer display in preference to printing it for use? ...
Other than personal preferences and the type of content, key factors are
-- the extent to which the PDF is &quo
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> bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shlomo Perets
> Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:59 AM
> To: kmcdaniel at pavtech.com; framers at frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: PDF Documentation
>
> Kelly,
>
> You wrote:
>
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at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Shlomo Perets
Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 7:59 AM
To: kmcdaniel at pavtech.com; framers at frameusers.com
Subject: Re: PDF Documentation
Kelly,
You wrote:
>Quick Survey:
>
>Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
>comp
:
Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
computer display in preference to printing it for use?
If so, by what ratio of view:print? Opinions and SWAGs are fine.
Kelly M. McDaniel
Senior Technical Writer
Pavilion Technologies
A Rockwell
Dear Kelly McDaniel,
In my experience working in the IT and telecommunications field, PDFs are
used almost exclusively. The only time I have seen hard copies used is
during eLearning courses, but that's a different context (though related)
than technical documentation.
Here's why. I am writing
...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
John Sgammato
Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 12:37 AM
To: Combs, Richard; Bill Swallow
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: PDF Documentation
Well, for what it's worth, my German service engineer said that in
Germany, his customers prefer PDFs to printed
similar it
doesn't get printed although selected pages might.
Alan
On 23/01/2009, at 5:40 AM, Kelly McDaniel wrote:
> Quick Survey:
>
>
>
> Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
> computer display in preference to printing it for use?
>
&
lto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of
> John Sgammato
> Sent: Friday, January 23, 2009 12:37 AM
> To: Combs, Richard; Bill Swallow
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: PDF Documentation
>
> Well, for what it's worth, my German service engine
Dear Kelly McDaniel,
In my experience working in the IT and telecommunications field, PDFs are
used almost exclusively. The only time I have seen hard copies used is
during eLearning courses, but that's a different context (though related)
than technical documentation.
Here's why. I am writing
Quick Survey:
Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
computer display in preference to printing it for use?
If so, by what ratio of view:print? Opinions and SWAGs are fine.
Kelly M. McDaniel
Senior Technical Writer
Pavilion Technologies
A Rockwell
No disclaimers apply.
DoD 358
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Kelly McDaniel kmcdan...@pavtech.comwrote:
Quick Survey:
Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
computer display in preference
McDaniel
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:40 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: PDF Documentation
Quick Survey:
Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
computer display in preference to printing it for use?
If so, by what ratio of view:print? Opinions and SWAGs
German culture is much more green-minded than ours, so among our German
customers, especially in manufacturing, printed docs are anathema, proof
that we ignorant Americans will destroy our planet in short order.
Huh? Is there is a shortage of trees in America?
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
On 22 Jan 2009, at 9:55 AM, Art Campbell wrote:
If it's hardware based, like how to install something -- either
computer or,
say, room lights, I'd expect it to be printed.
Just a few days ago, my MacBook Pro wouldn't finish booting.
Fortunately, I had previously installed Applejack,
...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Kelly
McDaniel
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:40 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: PDF Documentation
Quick Survey:
Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
computer display
experience that users view PDF documentation on their
computer display in preference to printing it for use?
If so, by what ratio of view:print? Opinions and SWAGs are fine.
Kelly M. McDaniel
Senior Technical Writer
Pavilion Technologies
A Rockwell Automation Company
Scott Prentice wrote (in small part):
Searching in a PDF is a fairly useless operation as well, which is
another reason I prefer to use other types of online docs.
Actually, I find Acrobat's search operation, with it's list of results
showing some of the surrounding context, to be very
11:40 AM
To
framers@lists.frameusers.com
cc
Subject
PDF Documentation
Quick Survey:
Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
computer display in preference to printing it for use?
If so, by what ratio of view:print? Opinions and SWAGs are fine.
Kelly M
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: PDF Documentation
Kelly,
My experience is that my users prefer viewing PDFs, preferring PDF over
paper.
We shifted from delivering paper operating manuals to delivering PDFs on
CD a years ago. We were worried at first, but needlessly so. We even
offered to ship
At best they are an 11-year renewable resource. So, yes.
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Rick Quatro frameexp...@truevine.net wrote:
German culture is much more green-minded than ours, so among our German
customers, especially in manufacturing, printed docs are anathema, proof
that we
@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: PDF Documentation
Bill Swallow wrote:
At best they are an 11-year renewable resource. So, yes.
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Rick Quatro
frameexp...@truevine.net
wrote:
German culture is much more green-minded than ours, so among our
German
customers
] On Behalf Of John Sgammato
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:37 PM
To: Combs, Richard; Bill Swallow
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: PDF Documentation
Well, for what it's worth, my German service engineer said that in
Germany, his customers prefer PDFs to printed books, for all
Robert Shelton wrote:
What you say may very well be true, though I'd be reluctant to say
that
a tree farm = forested land. However, the cite you give is from John
Stossel, who is hardly unbiased when it comes to reporting
environmental
issues. Again, it may be true, but I'd take it with a
similar it
doesn't get printed although selected pages might.
Alan
On 23/01/2009, at 5:40 AM, Kelly McDaniel wrote:
Quick Survey:
Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
computer display in preference to printing it for use?
If so, by what ratio of view:print
Quick Survey:
Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
computer display in preference to printing it for use?
If so, by what ratio of view:print? Opinions and SWAGs are fine.
Kelly M. McDaniel
Senior Technical Writer
Pavilion Technologies
A Rockwell Automation
your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
> computer display in preference to printing it for use?
>
> If so, by what ratio of view:print? Opinions and SWAGs are fine.
>
>
>
> Kelly M. McDaniel
>
> Senior Technical Writer
>
>
>
> Pavilion Technologies
>
> A Rockwell Automation Company
d Thompson
No disclaimers apply.
DoD 358
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Kelly McDaniel wrote:
> Quick Survey:
>
>
>
> Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
> computer displ
McDaniel
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:40 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: PDF Documentation
Quick Survey:
Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
computer display in preference to printing it for use?
If so, by what ratio of view:print? Opinions
> German culture is much more green-minded than ours, so among our German
> customers, especially in manufacturing, printed docs are anathema, proof
> that we ignorant Americans will destroy our planet in short order.
Huh? Is there is a shortage of trees in America?
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
On 22 Jan 2009, at 9:55 AM, Art Campbell wrote:
> If it's hardware based, like how to install something -- either
> computer or,
> say, room lights, I'd expect it to be printed.
Just a few days ago, my MacBook Pro wouldn't finish booting.
Fortunately, I had previously installed Applejack,
...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Kelly
McDaniel
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:40 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: PDF Documentation
Quick Survey:
Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
computer
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>
> Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
> computer display in preference to printing it for use?
>
> If so, by what ratio of view:print? Opinions and SWAGs are fine.
>
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>
> Kelly M. McDaniel
>
> Senior Technical Writer
>
>
>
> Pavilion Technologies
>
> A Rockwell Automation Company
>
>
>
>
Scott Prentice wrote (in small part):
>Searching in a PDF is a fairly useless > operation as well, which is
> another reason I prefer to use other types > of online docs.
Actually, I find Acrobat's search operation, with it's list of results
showing some of the surrounding context, to be
eusers.com
01/22/2009 11:40 AM
To
cc
Subject
PDF Documentation
Quick Survey:
Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
computer display in preference to printing it for use?
If so, by what ratio of view:print? Opinions and SWAGs are fine.
Kelly M. McDaniel
Senio
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: PDF Documentation
Kelly,
My experience is that my users prefer viewing PDFs, preferring PDF over
paper.
We shifted from delivering paper operating manuals to delivering PDFs on
CD a years ago. We were worried at first, but needlessly so. We even
I can't speak for users but I prefer online for search and indexing.
Paper just contributes to clutter, which I have more than my fair
share of.
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 11:40 AM, Kelly McDaniel
wrote:
> Quick Survey:
>
>
>
> Is it your experience that users view PD
At best they are an 11-year renewable resource. So, yes.
On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Rick Quatro
wrote:
>> German culture is much more green-minded than ours, so among our German
>> customers, especially in manufacturing, printed docs are anathema, proof
>> that we ignorant Americans will
Bill Swallow wrote:
> At best they are an 11-year renewable resource. So, yes.
>
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Rick Quatro
> wrote:
> >> German culture is much more green-minded than ours, so among our
German
> >> customers, especially in manufacturing, printed docs are anathema,
proof
>
c: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: PDF Documentation
Bill Swallow wrote:
> At best they are an 11-year renewable resource. So, yes.
>
> On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 12:19 PM, Rick Quatro
> wrote:
> >> German culture is much more green-minded than ours, so
] On Behalf Of John Sgammato
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 6:37 PM
To: Combs, Richard; Bill Swallow
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: PDF Documentation
Well, for what it's worth, my German service engineer said that in
Germany, his customers prefer PDFs to printed books, for all
Robert Shelton wrote:
> What you say may very well be true, though I'd be reluctant to say
that
> a tree farm = forested land. However, the cite you give is from John
> Stossel, who is hardly unbiased when it comes to reporting
environmental
> issues. Again, it may be true, but I'd take it with
: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Kelly
McDaniel
Sent: Thursday, January 22, 2009 11:40 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: PDF Documentation
Quick Survey:
Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation
vey:
>
>
>
> Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their
> computer display in preference to printing it for use?
>
> If so, by what ratio of view:print? Opinions and SWAGs are fine.
>
>
>
> Kelly M. McDaniel
>
> Senior Technica
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