Re: Paragraph catalog sort order

2008-12-09 Thread Jim Owens
The writer who reported this problem tells me she solved it by uninstalling and reinstalling FrameMaker. I asked whether she applied any patches to the new install. She says that FrameMaker updates were automatically cued and applied shortly after the software was installed. Jim Owens wrote:

Re: Paragraph catalog sort order

2008-12-09 Thread Klaus Daube
On 9 Dec 2008 at 1:00, Fred Ridder wrote: Has anyone found a workaround for the change in the sort order used in the Paragraph Catalog and other listings of paragraph tags? Friends, I have made the same experience with my format names ... Someone mentioned that the difference of ASCII sort

RE: Paragraph catalog sort order

2008-12-09 Thread Martinek, Carla
I have reported this as a bug since FM 8 was released, and also in beta testing of FM 9. I have let Adobe developers know, in no uncertain terms, that this is a MAJOR issue. This sort order issue can invalidate a user's templates which they have used for years. Please see my entry on the

Paragraph catalog sort order

2008-12-09 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
s-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Fred Ridder > Sent: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:01 PM > To: framers at frameusers.com > Subject: Paragraph catalog sort order > > > Has anyone found a workaround for the change in the sort > order used in the Paragraph Catalog and other

Paragraph catalog sort order

2008-12-09 Thread Jim Owens
The writer who reported this problem tells me she solved it by uninstalling and reinstalling FrameMaker. I asked whether she applied any patches to the new install. She says that FrameMaker updates "were automatically cued and applied shortly after the software was installed." Jim Owens

Paragraph catalog sort order

2008-12-09 Thread Fred Ridder
Jim Owens wrote (in two postings):> The writer who reported this problem tells me she solved it by > uninstalling and reinstalling FrameMaker. I asked whether she applied > any patches to the new install. She says that FrameMaker updates "were > automatically cued and applied shortly after

Paragraph catalog sort order

2008-12-09 Thread Klaus Daube
On 9 Dec 2008 at 1:00, Fred Ridder wrote: > Has anyone found a workaround for the change in the sort > order used in the Paragraph Catalog and other listings of > paragraph tags? Friends, I have made the same experience with my format names ... Someone mentioned that the difference of ASCII

Paragraph catalog sort order

2008-12-09 Thread Martinek, Carla
I have reported this as a bug since FM 8 was released, and also in beta testing of FM 9. I have let Adobe developers know, in no uncertain terms, that this is a MAJOR issue. This sort order issue can invalidate a user's templates which they have used for years. Please see my entry on the

Paragraph catalog sort order

2008-12-08 Thread Fred Ridder
Has anyone found a workaround for the change in the sort order used in the Paragraph Catalog and other listings of paragraph tags? Our company's templates were set up with 1- or 2-character prefixes for all the common paragraph tags to facilitate keyboard selection via the F9 key. The most

Re: Paragraph catalog sort order

2008-12-08 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Fred: Just off the top of my head I wonder if the change is from an ASCII sort order to a Unicode sort order. Have you tried choosing a different character set for your OS (I'm on my Mac right now, and can't remember the exact name or location on a Windows machine.) On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at

Re: Paragraph catalog sort order

2008-12-08 Thread Jim Owens
FWIW, one of our writers reported that the paragraph catalog sorts differently on her home PC than her work PC. At first glance, it appeared to be a simple reverse sort, but it was her home PC so we did not investigate closely. The tag tp, table para was showing up at the bottom of the list

RE: Paragraph catalog sort order

2008-12-08 Thread Fred Ridder
I think you might be on the right track, Peter, given someone else's observation that they have seen FM8 behave differently in this regard on two different machnies. But I have to say that I have no clue about where/how to change to a different character set for my OS (Windows XP Pro SP2).

Re: Paragraph catalog sort order

2008-12-08 Thread Stuart Rogers
Fred Ridder wrote: I think you might be on the right track, Peter, given someone else's observation that they have seen FM8 behave differently in this regard on two different machnies. But I have to say that I have no clue about where/how to change to a different character set for my OS

Re: Paragraph catalog sort order

2008-12-08 Thread Peter Gold
Stuart gives me more credit than I deserve for my wild guess. I dreamed this up by remembering some of the reported problems with Unicode-aware FM and spurious characters in PDF bookmarks, and in moving legacy files created in earlier versions into FM 8. On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Stuart

RE: Paragraph catalog sort order

2008-12-08 Thread Reng, Dr. Winfried
: Monday, December 08, 2008 8:01 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Paragraph catalog sort order Has anyone found a workaround for the change in the sort order used in the Paragraph Catalog and other listings of paragraph tags? Our company's templates were set up with 1- or 2-character

Paragraph catalog sort order

2008-12-08 Thread Fred Ridder
Has anyone found a workaround for the change in the sort order used in the Paragraph Catalog and other listings of paragraph tags? Our company's templates were set up with 1- or 2-character prefixes for all the common paragraph tags to facilitate keyboard selection via the F9 key. The most

Paragraph catalog sort order

2008-12-08 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Fred: Just off the top of my head I wonder if the change is from an ASCII sort order to a Unicode sort order. Have you tried choosing a different character set for your OS (I'm on my Mac right now, and can't remember the exact name or location on a Windows machine.) On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at

Paragraph catalog sort order

2008-12-08 Thread Jim Owens
FWIW, one of our writers reported that the paragraph catalog sorts differently on her home PC than her work PC. At first glance, it appeared to be a simple reverse sort, but it was her home PC so we did not investigate closely. The tag "tp, table para" was showing up at the bottom of the list

Paragraph catalog sort order

2008-12-08 Thread Fred Ridder
I think you might be on the right track, Peter, given someone else's observation that they have seen FM8 behave differently in this regard on two different machnies. But I have to say that I have no clue about where/how to change to a different character set for my OS (Windows XP Pro SP2).

Paragraph catalog sort order

2008-12-08 Thread Stuart Rogers
Fred Ridder wrote: > I think you might be on the right track, Peter, given someone else's > observation that they have seen FM8 behave differently in this regard > on two different machnies. > > But I have to say that I have no clue about where/how to change to > a different character set for

Paragraph catalog sort order

2008-12-08 Thread Peter Gold
Stuart gives me more credit than I deserve for my wild guess. I dreamed this up by remembering some of the reported problems with Unicode-aware FM and spurious characters in PDF bookmarks, and in moving legacy files created in earlier versions into FM 8. On Mon, Dec 8, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Stuart