RE: Font suggestions for book?

2013-08-16 Thread Craig Ede
This is the reason people go to graphic design school and spend all that
time worrying about recognizing typefaces, the effects of leading, etc. 

 

Your audience should determine the look of the book. Check out books at your
local bm bookstore--bricks and mortar, not Barnes and Noble, tho' they
might be the same. Many books will list the typeface used at the front or
back of the book. 

 

All typefaces have a distinct character. Academic writing uses staid and
conservative type. Children's books use wacky letterforms. You want
something in between. Another alternative is to go to a site like
www.identifont.com and drill down through a series of font attributes. They
also list the most popular fonts there. (Interestingly, they use font, not
typeface, as their terminology.)

 

Printed, longer samples of type in an actual book give you a better idea of
the character of a typeface than small samples on a computer screen.

 

These are just some starting considerations.

 

Good luck.

 

Craig

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RE: Font suggestions for book?

2013-08-16 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net)
The answer is This is Your decision really!

However, I can make some personal observations.

I bought this: http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00BFOYW4K/ref=docs-os-doi_0 
quite a while back and found it a good read to understand how to make fonts in 
documents look good. (The title is Type  Layout: Are You Communicating or 
Just Making Pretty Shapes.)

Also, I bought Adobe Type Library Reference Book some months back: 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0321821254/ref=oh_details_o00_s00_i00?ie=UTF8psc=1
 just as a reference to see how their fonts would look when printed in books. 
This book is definitely overkill for most people, of course, but an interesting 
reference to have!

BTW, quite separately, this is a fun read for interesting stories on fonts - as 
I recall, someone on this list recommended it: 
http://www.amazon.com/Just-My-Type-About-ebook/dp/B00BFOYW4K/ref=sr_1_1?s=digital-textie=UTF8qid=1376695562sr=1-1keywords=Just+My+TYpe.
 (The title is Just My Type.)

Anyway, my advice is to use a Serif font for dense text (books, specifications, 
etc.) because it is believed to be easier to read (a myth according to some 
people though): 
http://blogs.adobe.com/acom/2008/07/to_serif_or_not_to_serif_regar_1.html ... 
particularly in printed text.  As I recall, that is what prompted the New York 
Times newspaper to develop the Times font years ago.

A quote from 
http://www.awaionline.com/2011/10/the-best-fonts-to-use-in-print-online-and-email/:

Best fonts for print

In his book Cashvertising, Drew Eric Whitman cites a 1986 study of fonts 
(printed on paper) that found only 12 percent of participants effectively 
comprehended a paragraph set in sans-serif type versus 67 percent who were 
given a version set in serif typeface.

Those who read the sans-serif version said they had a tough time reading the 
text and continually had to backtrack to regain comprehension.

In a test of three different fonts, two serifs (Garamond and Times New Roman) 
and one sans serif (Helvetica), he found 66 percent were able to comprehend 
Garamond; 31.5 percent Times New Roman, and 12.5 percent Helvetica (out of a 
total of 1,010,000 people surveyed).

FWIW, I believe the Serif Myth ... after doing my own comparisons. So, I use 
Palatino Linotype for my text in documents and specifications, particularly 
because symbols like copyright (c) and trademark (tm) are easier to read in 
smaller sizes (i.e., under 10pt). Just compare two pages of the same text, one 
in Palatino Linotype (or Times Roman) and one in Helvetica (or Arial) to 
understand what I mean by easier to read denser Serif text when looking at a 
full page of words in a book or document or manual.

Now, for on-screen readability, people believe that a Sans Serif font is best. 
That may well be true ... I just have not done any how does it look testing 
for myself yet.

When I need a fixed-width font (code, scripts, certain numbers, etc.), I use 
Consolas since it looks very, very good on-screen and in print (unlike 
Courier and its variants).

With text that is stretched vertically, or squeezed horizontally, at all - for 
example, for a banner or section/chapter heading - a Sans Serif font is better, 
IMHO. I used to use Arial, but switched a while back to Helvetica based on 
comments from people on this list. I compared the two fonts, and Helvetica is 
clearly better looking with rounded character structures (look at the letter 
e, for example).

And, finally, for presentations, I now find Adobe Myriad Pro Light to be very 
clean and light, so I am using it more and more of late.

Summary ... for me (YMMV):


1.  Dense text inside the books and documents: Palatino Linotype.

2.  Chapter/section header, banners: Helvetica.

3.  Fixed-width content: Consolas.

4.  Presentations: Adobe Myriad Pro Light.

Regards,

Z

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Hi everyone,

I'm not sure whether this post went through, so I'm trying again.

In the past, I've worked on writing, editing, and functional template design, 
but in general I've left pretty stuff such as font selection to others. So I 
really don't know what fonts might be most readable, or most popular, or how to 
pair a body and a heading font, or the like. Of course, much is written all 
over the Internet, but I thought that here, there would be people with specific 
experience writing and publishing books. So that is why I have directed this 
inquiry here. I hope it's okay. :)

Thanks,
Elchanan
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Subject: OT: Font suggestions for book?

Greetings everyone,

I'm working in FM 8, Win 7 x64 on a book that will be published this Fall. I've 
now been asked to do the book design, in addition to most of the