RE: Character formatting problem
Hi Peter, This did the trick, thanks! (I used option one, clicking into the page margin area, and defining the style there before updating all.) I *figured* it had to be some nitnoid little thing like this. Thanks again, Chuck -Original Message- From: Peter Gold [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 5:43 PM To: Charles Beck Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Character formatting problem Hi, Charles: Charles Beck wrote: Fellow Framers, I am trying to create a new character format, called Subscript. This format should only make the selected text appear in a subscript, same (relative) size, font, weight, color, etc. with respect to the default paragraph font. However, Frame (7.0) does not allow me to use the As Is option for the Size attribute. Whenever I try to select it (As Is) and Apply/Update All, Frame fills in this field with the text size for the paragraph I am currently in. It IS confusing, because the designer's feedback includes all formatting at the cursor/insertion point. Most likely you're creating the character tag correctly, but, because it's not applied to the selected text or to the cursor position when you choose Update All, the feedback from the designer reverts to the non-subscripted property. One way to do do this with certainty is to move the cursor out of all text by clicking into the page margin area, then choosing the character format's tag name in the designer. Another way is to leave the cursor in the text, and choose Commands Set Window to As Is. After either of these actions, set the subscript ON, and choose Update All. To verify your work, click into margin area again and choose the character tag in the designer. That then becomes the default font size for this character format from that point on. How do I get it so that this character format does not mess with the font size, but leaves it alone? I'm stumped on this one... What am I missing? HTH Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Character formatting problem
Hi, Charles: Charles Beck wrote: Fellow Framers, I am trying to create a new character format, called Subscript. This format should only make the selected text appear in a subscript, same (relative) size, font, weight, color, etc. with respect to the default paragraph font. However, Frame (7.0) does not allow me to use the As Is option for the Size attribute. Whenever I try to select it (As Is) and Apply/Update All, Frame fills in this field with the text size for the paragraph I am currently in. It IS confusing, because the designer's feedback includes all formatting at the cursor/insertion point. Most likely you're creating the character tag correctly, but, because it's not applied to the selected text or to the cursor position when you choose Update All, the feedback from the designer reverts to the non-subscripted property. One way to do do this with certainty is to move the cursor out of all text by clicking into the page margin area, then choosing the character format's tag name in the designer. Another way is to leave the cursor in the text, and choose Commands Set Window to As Is. After either of these actions, set the subscript ON, and choose Update All. To verify your work, click into margin area again and choose the character tag in the designer. That then becomes the default font size for this character format from that point on. How do I get it so that this character format does not mess with the font size, but leaves it alone? I'm stumped on this one... What am I missing? HTH Regards, Peter Gold KnowHow ProServices ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Character formatting problem
You're not missing anything. The FM interface is quite confusing for this task. I do character tags with the following steps: 1. Open the Character Designer (I use CTRL+D) 2. In the document, click to clear any selections. To verify you've done it correctly, the *Character Tag* text box in the Designer should be blank. 3. Select *Commands New Format*. 4. Enter a name for the new tag. In your case, it would be Subscript. 5. Set *Store in Catalog*, but _clear_ *Apply to Selection*. 6. Click *Create*. _Notice that the *Character Tag* text box is still blank._ 7. With the insertion point still outside a selection, select *Subscript* from the Designer dropdown box. 8. Set or clear the options you want. For a plain subscript, set everything to *As Is*, and set the *Spread* and *Stretch* fields to blank. Also clear all the options at the right of the Designer. 9. Set the checkbox next to *Superscript/Subscript*, then select *Subscript* from the dropdown box. 10.Click *Update All*. Test this. You should see a subscript. _Notice that the Character Designer shows you all the other settings that previously applied to your selection_. That is, Character Designer does *not* switch to *As Is* when you make a selection. Instead, it shows the _current state_. That's the confusing part of the UI. FM dialogs work that way. FM didn't start out as a Windows app, so its UI does not show a Microsoft influence. You may find it confusing; when I was first starting, I sure did! In fairness to both Adobe and FM, it is confusing because it is not what we expect. Joe Malin Technical Writer (408)625-1623 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.tuvox.com The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not necessarily reflect those of TuVox, Inc. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Charles Beck Sent: Thursday, August 24, 2006 7:48 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Character formatting problem Fellow Framers, I am trying to create a new character format, called Subscript. This format should only make the selected text appear in a subscript, same (relative) size, font, weight, color, etc. with respect to the default paragraph font. However, Frame (7.0) does not allow me to use the As Is option for the Size attribute. Whenever I try to select it (As Is) and Apply/Update All, Frame fills in this field with the text size for the paragraph I am currently in. That then becomes the default font size for this character format from that point on. How do I get it so that this character format does not mess with the font size, but leaves it alone? I'm stumped on this one... What am I missing? Chuck Chuck Beck | Sr. Information Developer | Infor Global Solutions, Inc. | Office: 614-523-7302 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jmalin%40tuvox.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
