RE: Continuous Numbering in FrameMaker
Sorry to chime in late. Here's how I've done it when I needed a documents page count elsewhere. A paragraph with a format called PageCount placed on A REFERENCE PAGE! Then you just put the page count variable as the only text. You then Xref to the last document in a book. No need for blank paragraphs or white text (which is selectable in a PDF. Yuck!). Eric L. Dunn Senior Technical Writer Tammy Van Boening [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 10/16/2006 05:19:54 PM: Ok - a quick follow-up to this. For the empty paragraph tag, you need some kind of source text for the paragraph to select for the x-ref, so what I did was set up an auto-number format with the phrase TotalPageCount and set the color to white so it doesn't show and I have a cross-ref. format called TotalPageCount set to pick up only the page number of the paragraph. I set this up on the master page footers and it works like a charm. Thanks Fred. TVB Tammy Van Boening Engineering Technical Writer InsureWorx 303-729-7733 [EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ This e-mail communication (and any attachment/s) may contain confidential or privileged information and is intended only for the individual(s) or entity named above and to others who have been specifically authorized to receive it. If you are not the intended recipient, please do not read, copy, use or disclose the contents of this communication to others. Please notify the sender that you have received this e-mail in error by reply e-mail, and delete the e-mail subsequently. Please note that in order to protect the security of our information systems an AntiSPAM solution is in use and will browse through incoming emails. Thank you. _ Ce message (ainsi que le(s) fichier/s), transmis par courriel, peut contenir des renseignements confidentiels ou protégés et est destiné à l?usage exclusif du destinataire ci-dessus. Toute autre personne est par les présentes avisée qu?il est strictement interdit de le diffuser, le distribuer ou le reproduire. Si vous l?avez reçu par inadvertance, veuillez nous en aviser et détruire ce message. Veuillez prendre note qu'une solution antipollupostage (AntiSPAM) est utilisée afin d'assurer la sécurité de nos systems d'information et qu'elle furètera les courriels entrant. Merci. _ ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Continuous Numbering in framemaker
Tammy Van Boening wrote: Ok - a quick follow-up to this. For the empty paragraph tag, you need some kind of source text for the paragraph to select for the x-ref, so what I did was set up an auto-number format with the phrase TotalPageCount and set the color to white so it doesn't show and I have a cross-ref. format called TotalPageCount set to pick up only the page number of the paragraph. I set this up on the master page footers and it works like a charm. Thanks Fred. Stuart Rogers replied: You can also use autonumber text consisting of only a thin space (or other fixed space), by typing backslash-s-t. When you create the x-ref, you can then see and select \st in the pgf list. This avoids the risk of having your TotalPageCount autotext show up inadvertently, either in print or when selected or in search results. FWIW, neither is necessary if you're willing to insert an xref marker at the end of the book first. This method doesn't require white text (with its potential pitfalls). It doesn't even require a separate pgf. It does require continuous page numbering (unlike the FM help's method), but if you're using the $pagenum building block for the xref, I assume that isn't an issue. Here's how: 1. Go to the last file in the book and put the cursor on the last page at the end of the text flow.* 2. Open the Marker dialog (Esc s m). Set Marker Type to Cross-Ref. Type a meaningful string in the Marker Text box, such as LastPage, and click New Marker. 3. Put the cursor where you want the last page number (e.g., after # of in each master page footer throughout), and select Special Cross-Reference (Esc s c). 4. In the Cross-Reference dialog, set Document to the last document in the book, and set Source Type to Cross-Reference Markers. 5. In the Cross-Reference Markers list, find and select the marker text you inserted in step 2 (e.g., LastPage).** Then set Format to your $pagenum xref format and click Insert. * If this file is set to make page count even, and the text ends on an odd page, you have to come up with some sort of workaround. If you're putting some kind of Intentionally Blank message on that empty last page, you can add the xref marker to it. ** This is a potentially annoying part if you have many, many xrefs already. There doesn't seem to be much rhyme or reason to the order of the markers. All the ones inserted automatically when you selected a pgf as a destination start with the pgf tag name -- so don't use marker text that starts with, say, Head. :-) HTH, no warranty expressed or implied, YMMV. ;-) Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Continuous Numbering in framemaker
I wrote: It does require continuous page numbering (unlike the FM help's method), but if you're using the $pagenum building block for the xref, I assume that isn't an issue. I'll save someone else the trouble and point out the stupidity of that myself. Clearly, you're using continuous page numbering -- and the FM help's method assumes continuous numbering, too. One wouldn't use Page x of y in a folio-numbered book: Page 3-1 of 247 is just silly. I guess the coffee's just not working for me this morning. :-} Richard -- Richard G. Combs Senior Technical Writer Polycom, Inc. richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom 303-223-5111 -- rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom 303-777-0436 -- ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Continuous Numbering in framemaker
Ok - a quick follow-up to this. For the empty paragraph tag, you need some kind of source text for the paragraph to select for the x-ref, so what I did was set up an auto-number format with the phrase TotalPageCount and set the color to white so it doesn't show and I have a cross-ref. format called TotalPageCount set to pick up only the page number of the paragraph. I set this up on the master page footers and it works like a charm. Thanks Fred. TVB Tammy Van Boening Engineering Technical Writer InsureWorx 303-729-7733 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Keep Smiling - At least until you get your own way -Original Message- From: Ridder, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 2:47 PM To: Tammy Van Boening; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Continuous Numbering in framemaker One way is to insert an empty paragraph with a special tag at the end of the chapter file, and then use a cross-reference (with an x-ref format that picks up only the page number via the $pagenum building block) whenever you need the total page count. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Staff Information Services Analyst Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 1:41 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Continuous Numbering in framemaker Hi All, I am in the process of migrating existing draft documentation in Word to final version documentation in Framemaker. The old Word documentation was but a single file - the first page was reserved for cover information, the second page was Word's TOC, and the remaining pages were the content of the document. The old numbering scheme, beginning with the first page was Page # of #, which for a single document in Word, worked fine. In Framemaker, I have split up this large document into three separate files - Cover File, TOC, and the Chapter document. I have been asked to keep the numbering scheme the same - Page # of Total Page Count. I know how to keep the numbering continuous across the files, but the system variable that keeps total page count is obviously on a per file basis. For example, the singe Cover page file has no number, but the first page of the TOC says page 2 of 4 (because it is the second page in the book, and there are four pages in the TOC total), so the next page says Page 3 of 4 and the final page says Page 4 of 4. When I open the document chapter, it says Page 5 of 19, because the first page of the content chapter is indeed the fifth page in the book, but there are 19 pages in the Content chapter. What do I need to do to get this to number the same way as Word - if it's possible for files in a book? I want the first page of the TOC to say page 4 of 24, the second page to say page 5 of 24, etc. and I want the first page of the Content Chapter to say Page 5 of 24, etc. TIA, TVB Tammy Van Boening Engineering Technical Writer InsureWorx 303-729-7733 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Keep Smiling - At least until you get your own way ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/fred.ridder%40intel. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Continuous Numbering in framemaker
This a bit tricky. I haven't done it before, but I found instructions for it in the Adobe FrameMaker help. The topic title is Including the total page count of a book in a header or footer The Page Count ($lastpagenum) variable ordinarily resets on a file-by-file basis, but you can make it do otherwise. Joe Tammy Van Boening wrote: Tammy Van Boening Engineering Technical Writer InsureWorx 303-729-7733 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Keep Smiling - At least until you get your own way From: Tammy Van Boening [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 11:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [techcomm-discuss] Continuous Numbering in framemaker Oops - fat-fingered some numbers in my statement. see corrections below. Thanks! Hi All, I am in the process of migrating existing draft documentation in Word to final version documentation in Framemaker. The old Word documentation was but a single file - the first page was reserved for cover information, the second page was Word's TOC, and the remaining pages were the content of the document. The old numbering scheme, beginning with the first page was Page # of #, which for a single document in Word, worked fine. In Framemaker, I have split up this large document into three separate files - Cover File, TOC, and the Chapter document. I have been asked to keep the numbering scheme the same - Page # of Total Page Count. I know how to keep the numbering continuous across the files, but the system variable that keeps total page count is obviously on a per file basis. For example, the singe Cover page file has no number, but the first page of the TOC says page 2 of 4 (because it is the second page in the book, and there are four pages in the TOC total), so the next page says Page 3 of 4 and the final page says Page 4 of 4. When I open the document chapter, it says Page 5 of 19, because the first page of the content chapter is indeed the fifth page in the book, but there are 19 pages in the Content chapter. What do I need to do to get this to number the same way as Word - if it's possible for files in a book? I want the first page of the TOC to say page 2 of 24, the second page to say page 3 of 24, etc. and I want the first page of the Content Chapter to say Page 5 of 24, etc. TIA, TVB Tammy Van Boening Engineering Technical Writer InsureWorx 303-729-7733 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Keep Smiling - At least until you get your own way ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jmalin%40jmalin.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Continuous Numbering in framemaker
Tammy, If you import (by reference) the Cover File and then the TOC before the text content, you should get the effect you're looking for. Then, update the TOC to reflect the changed page numbers of headings in the expanded document. Then, double-click the referenced TOC in the expanded doc and select Update Now. This way, whenever a content change requires a change in the TOC, you can update the TOC file, and in the main document, simply update the referenced TOC file. Meanwhile, your page numbering will be as it should be. HTH, David David Schor Technical Communication Manager Emblaze-VCON Ltd. Tel: (+972) 9 7627820 Mobile: 054 4788253 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.emblaze-vcon.com Wisdom is the quality that keeps you from getting into situations where you need it. Doug Larson -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 7:47 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Continuous Numbering in framemaker Tammy Van Boening Engineering Technical Writer InsureWorx 303-729-7733 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Keep Smiling - At least until you get your own way From: Tammy Van Boening [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 11:42 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [techcomm-discuss] Continuous Numbering in framemaker Oops - fat-fingered some numbers in my statement. see corrections below. Thanks! Hi All, I am in the process of migrating existing draft documentation in Word to final version documentation in Framemaker. The old Word documentation was but a single file - the first page was reserved for cover information, the second page was Word's TOC, and the remaining pages were the content of the document. The old numbering scheme, beginning with the first page was Page # of #, which for a single document in Word, worked fine. In Framemaker, I have split up this large document into three separate files - Cover File, TOC, and the Chapter document. I have been asked to keep the numbering scheme the same - Page # of Total Page Count. I know how to keep the numbering continuous across the files, but the system variable that keeps total page count is obviously on a per file basis. For example, the singe Cover page file has no number, but the first page of the TOC says page 2 of 4 (because it is the second page in the book, and there are four pages in the TOC total), so the next page says Page 3 of 4 and the final page says Page 4 of 4. When I open the document chapter, it says Page 5 of 19, because the first page of the content chapter is indeed the fifth page in the book, but there are 19 pages in the Content chapter. What do I need to do to get this to number the same way as Word - if it's possible for files in a book? I want the first page of the TOC to say page 2 of 24, the second page to say page 3 of 24, etc. and I want the first page of the Content Chapter to say Page 5 of 24, etc. TIA, TVB Tammy Van Boening Engineering Technical Writer InsureWorx 303-729-7733 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Keep Smiling - At least until you get your own way ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/davids%40emblaze-vco n.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Continuous Numbering in framemaker
Thank you Fred - as usual, you come through and it's appreciated. I will give this a shot! TVB Tammy Van Boening Engineering Technical Writer InsureWorx 303-729-7733 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Keep Smiling - At least until you get your own way -Original Message- From: Ridder, Fred [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 2:47 PM To: Tammy Van Boening; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Continuous Numbering in framemaker One way is to insert an empty paragraph with a special tag at the end of the chapter file, and then use a cross-reference (with an x-ref format that picks up only the page number via the $pagenum building block) whenever you need the total page count. Fred Ridder (fred dot ridder at intel dot com) Staff Information Services Analyst Intel Parsippany, NJ -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tammy Van Boening Sent: Monday, October 16, 2006 1:41 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Continuous Numbering in framemaker Hi All, I am in the process of migrating existing draft documentation in Word to final version documentation in Framemaker. The old Word documentation was but a single file - the first page was reserved for cover information, the second page was Word's TOC, and the remaining pages were the content of the document. The old numbering scheme, beginning with the first page was Page # of #, which for a single document in Word, worked fine. In Framemaker, I have split up this large document into three separate files - Cover File, TOC, and the Chapter document. I have been asked to keep the numbering scheme the same - Page # of Total Page Count. I know how to keep the numbering continuous across the files, but the system variable that keeps total page count is obviously on a per file basis. For example, the singe Cover page file has no number, but the first page of the TOC says page 2 of 4 (because it is the second page in the book, and there are four pages in the TOC total), so the next page says Page 3 of 4 and the final page says Page 4 of 4. When I open the document chapter, it says Page 5 of 19, because the first page of the content chapter is indeed the fifth page in the book, but there are 19 pages in the Content chapter. What do I need to do to get this to number the same way as Word - if it's possible for files in a book? I want the first page of the TOC to say page 4 of 24, the second page to say page 5 of 24, etc. and I want the first page of the Content Chapter to say Page 5 of 24, etc. TIA, TVB Tammy Van Boening Engineering Technical Writer InsureWorx 303-729-7733 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Keep Smiling - At least until you get your own way ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/fred.ridder%40intel. com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
