RE: Creating special bullets
Hi, Yes, you can enter the hex code directly in dialog boxes. However, the hex code of the Windows character map often does not match the character which is then shown in FrameMaker. If the character is not listed in the FrameMaker Character Sets PDF file, I usually test all characters on my keyboard until I find the correct one. Best regards Winfried -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ]On Behalf Of Shlomo Perets Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 7:58 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Cc: Framers@FrameUsers.com Subject: Re: Creating special bullets Linda, You wrote: ... I've found the FrameMaker Character Sets document that is available under the Help menu, but even when I tried entering the hex or ANSI codes from it with a Zapf Dingbats char tag in the para style, I still did not get a match between the code I put in and the resulting bullet symbol as listed in the document. ... You can directly specify the hex code shown in Windows built-in Character Map in FrameMaker dialog boxes. For example, the Windows icon in Wingdings is reported in the Character Map as Character code: 0xFF. In FrameMaker, Autonumber Format box, use \xFF to refer to the same character; it will show in the document as the Windows icon if the font defined for the autonumber is Wingdings. [ Starting with FM6.0, the FrameMaker Character Sets PDF has some inaccuracies --see http://www.microtype.com/Hmmms.html#0312 . The Windows Character Map is recommended instead ] Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker FrameMaker/Acrobat training consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Creating special bullets
My disconnect is between the character map when it shows the hex code for a symbol I select and how to get that hex code into the Autonumbering setting of the Paragraph Designer (from Wingdings, for example). If you want something a little easier... I have a PDF showing the standard keyboard characters and what they look like in Zapf Dingbats, Wingdings (1, 2, 3), and Webdings. It is under the Download Tips link on my website. If you have another symbol font you want to use, I can email you the original Excel file. David Creamer I.D.E.A.S. - Results-Oriented Training http://www.IDEAStraining.com Adobe Certified Trainer Expert (since 1995) Authorized Quark Training Provider (since 1988) Markzware, Enfocus, FileMaker Certified Apple Consultant Network member (since 1990) ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Creating special bullets
At 17:34 -0600 11/3/07, Linda G. Gallagher wrote: I could swear I've done this before, but how to do it is eluding me. I was trying to show someone how to create bulleted lists with different types of bullet symbols. I have a couple of examples from existing documents that worked, but I wanted to show them how to figure out how to set it up from scratch. If you don't want to mess with character codes, set your desired bullet font as a character tag (for example, Dingbats, Wingdings) and use the character tag in the Automnumber field. This way you can merely use the letter that corresponds with the character in the bullet font that you want. For example, the letter 'N' equates with the large square in Zapf Dingbats. You can also use this method to set a different font size for the bullet if you wish, although you may get baseline alignment problems. There is a MIF hack for this which I forget but which has been documented here before. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Creating special bullets
Rick, At the risk of sounding stupid, how do you know what letter corresponds to the symbol you want? That's the crux of my question. Thanks to Ann and Shlomo for reminding me of how to use the hex code. That worked just fine and was the method I'd used before, but I'd forgotten the formula for how to use the hex code. ~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates Manager, STC Consulting and Independent Contracting SIG http://www.stcsig.org/cic/index.html -Original Message- From: Steve Rickaby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 7:22 AM To: Linda G. Gallagher Cc: framers@FrameUsers.com Subject: Re: Creating special bullets At 17:34 -0600 11/3/07, Linda G. Gallagher wrote: I could swear I've done this before, but how to do it is eluding me. I was trying to show someone how to create bulleted lists with different types of bullet symbols. I have a couple of examples from existing documents that worked, but I wanted to show them how to figure out how to set it up from scratch. If you don't want to mess with character codes, set your desired bullet font as a character tag (for example, Dingbats, Wingdings) and use the character tag in the Automnumber field. This way you can merely use the letter that corresponds with the character in the bullet font that you want. For example, the letter 'N' equates with the large square in Zapf Dingbats. You can also use this method to set a different font size for the bullet if you wish, although you may get baseline alignment problems. There is a MIF hack for this which I forget but which has been documented here before. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Creating special bullets
David Creamer just sent around a great little resource for just that purpose: http://www.ideastraining.com/PDFs/DingbatSamples.pdf -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Linda G. Gallagher Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 10:48 AM To: 'Steve Rickaby' Cc: framers@FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: Creating special bullets Rick, At the risk of sounding stupid, how do you know what letter corresponds to the symbol you want? That's the crux of my question. Thanks to Ann and Shlomo for reminding me of how to use the hex code. That worked just fine and was the method I'd used before, but I'd forgotten the formula for how to use the hex code. ~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates Manager, STC Consulting and Independent Contracting SIG http://www.stcsig.org/cic/index.html -Original Message- From: Steve Rickaby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 7:22 AM To: Linda G. Gallagher Cc: framers@FrameUsers.com Subject: Re: Creating special bullets At 17:34 -0600 11/3/07, Linda G. Gallagher wrote: I could swear I've done this before, but how to do it is eluding me. I was trying to show someone how to create bulleted lists with different types of bullet symbols. I have a couple of examples from existing documents that worked, but I wanted to show them how to figure out how to set it up from scratch. If you don't want to mess with character codes, set your desired bullet font as a character tag (for example, Dingbats, Wingdings) and use the character tag in the Automnumber field. This way you can merely use the letter that corresponds with the character in the bullet font that you want. For example, the letter 'N' equates with the large square in Zapf Dingbats. You can also use this method to set a different font size for the bullet if you wish, although you may get baseline alignment problems. There is a MIF hack for this which I forget but which has been documented here before. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/jsgammato%40imprivat a.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Creating special bullets
Linda, A nifty little site that I have bookmarked that provides just such information: http://www.zakie.fsnet.co.uk/ChatRoomsStuff/Help/wingdingsfontchart.htm HTH, TVB Tammy L. Van Boening Engineering Technical Writer Fiserv Insurance Solutions Property and Casualty Division 303-729-7733 [EMAIL PROTECTED] *** Keep smiling, at least until you get your own way. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ] On Behalf Of Linda G. Gallagher Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 8:48 AM To: 'Steve Rickaby' Cc: framers@FrameUsers.com Subject: RE: Creating special bullets Rick, At the risk of sounding stupid, how do you know what letter corresponds to the symbol you want? That's the crux of my question. Thanks to Ann and Shlomo for reminding me of how to use the hex code. That worked just fine and was the method I'd used before, but I'd forgotten the formula for how to use the hex code. ~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates Manager, STC Consulting and Independent Contracting SIG http://www.stcsig.org/cic/index.html -Original Message- From: Steve Rickaby [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 7:22 AM To: Linda G. Gallagher Cc: framers@FrameUsers.com Subject: Re: Creating special bullets At 17:34 -0600 11/3/07, Linda G. Gallagher wrote: I could swear I've done this before, but how to do it is eluding me. I was trying to show someone how to create bulleted lists with different types of bullet symbols. I have a couple of examples from existing documents that worked, but I wanted to show them how to figure out how to set it up from scratch. If you don't want to mess with character codes, set your desired bullet font as a character tag (for example, Dingbats, Wingdings) and use the character tag in the Automnumber field. This way you can merely use the letter that corresponds with the character in the bullet font that you want. For example, the letter 'N' equates with the large square in Zapf Dingbats. You can also use this method to set a different font size for the bullet if you wish, although you may get baseline alignment problems. There is a MIF hack for this which I forget but which has been documented here before. -- Steve ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/tammy.vanboening%40f iserv.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Creating special bullets
At the risk of sounding stupid, how do you know what letter corresponds to the symbol you want? That's the crux of my question. If you're running Windows, load Character Map. Then click on any character in the display array. At the bottom of the window, you'll see the Unicode value and the keyboard character. Example: U+0051: Latin Capital Letter Q That's if the Character Set dropdown is set to Unicode. If you set it to Windows:Western, you'll also get the decimal value: Example: U+0051 (0x51): Latin Capital Letter Q Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Creating special bullets
Most of the time, I only see the code with no letter associated with it, and the Character set drop-down list is grayed out. That's what I see when I select any of the Webdings, Wingdings, or Zapf Dingbats fonts. I noticed that when I select Verdana or Times New Roman, I do see the actual letter information. That makes it easy. Thanks for all these additional resources and ideas, Tammy, Mike, John, and Steve. Very helpful! ~ Linda G. Gallagher TechCom Plus, LLC lindag at techcomplus dot com www.techcomplus.com 303-450-9076 or 800-500-3144 User guides, online help, FrameMaker and WebWorks ePublisher templates Manager, STC Consulting and Independent Contracting SIG http://www.stcsig.org/cic/index.html -Original Message- From: Mike Wickham [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Monday, March 12, 2007 9:51 AM To: Linda G. Gallagher Cc: framers@FrameUsers.com Subject: Re: Creating special bullets At the risk of sounding stupid, how do you know what letter corresponds to the symbol you want? That's the crux of my question. If you're running Windows, load Character Map. Then click on any character in the display array. At the bottom of the window, you'll see the Unicode value and the keyboard character. Example: U+0051: Latin Capital Letter Q That's if the Character Set dropdown is set to Unicode. If you set it to Windows:Western, you'll also get the decimal value: Example: U+0051 (0x51): Latin Capital Letter Q Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Creating special bullets
Linda, You wrote: ... I've found the FrameMaker Character Sets document that is available under the Help menu, but even when I tried entering the hex or ANSI codes from it with a Zapf Dingbats char tag in the para style, I still did not get a match between the code I put in and the resulting bullet symbol as listed in the document. ... You can directly specify the hex code shown in Windows built-in Character Map in FrameMaker dialog boxes. For example, the Windows icon in Wingdings is reported in the Character Map as Character code: 0xFF. In FrameMaker, Autonumber Format box, use \xFF to refer to the same character; it will show in the document as the Windows icon if the font defined for the autonumber is Wingdings. [ Starting with FM6.0, the FrameMaker Character Sets PDF has some inaccuracies --see http://www.microtype.com/Hmmms.html#0312 . The Windows Character Map is recommended instead ] Shlomo Perets MicroType, http://www.microtype.com * ToolbarPlus Express for FrameMaker FrameMaker/Acrobat training consulting * FrameMaker-to-Acrobat TimeSavers/Assistants ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
