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Subject: RE: How many FM users are there?
Hi Diane,
[snip]
Incidentally, I had a sneak peak of the next release of FrameMaker at a
session today and I got permission from the PM to share this much: DITA will be
bundled with the next release and end the 5 minutes or so
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From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Maxwell Hoffmann
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 10:45 PM
To: Diane Gaskill; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: How many FM users are there?
Hi Diane,
Thank you
Subject: RE: How many FM users are there?
Hi Diane,
Thank you for checking with me; your timing could not be better. I am at the
STC Annual Convention in Minneapolis, where I've had an opportunity to peak in
on several DITA presentations and solicit feedback on FrameMaker's DITA
capabilities from
On 16 May 2007, at 16:00, Bernard Aschwanden wrote:
Just as a further note to the info Max passed on, I'm happy to say
that several of the features shown included some awesome tools that
Frame has been missing for years. While it was demo of a pre-
release and not all versions may make it
I will hazard the guess that this assertion is based on the same
argument ArborText used to (maybe still does?) make about FrameMaker not
being real SGML (or XML) because it saves files in its own internal
format.
Now that is no longer true for XML w/ version 7+, but it would not
surprise me that
Hi Max,
The PTC rep told me today that FM DITA is proprietary and not compatible with
anything else. Is this true? She also told me that the PTC version of DITA is
standard (whatever that means).
One of our divisions in Japan has decided to go with AT. We are leaning toward
structured FM.
/in/maxwellhoffmann
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From: Diane Gaskill [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Tuesday, May 15, 2007 6:09 PM
To: Diane Gaskill; Maxwell Hoffmann; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: How many FM users are there?
Hi Max,
The PTC rep told me today that FM DITA is proprietary
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Subject: Re: How many FM users are there?
Hi Bodvar,
Given that many FrameMaker users are in the software industry (at least here
in Northern California), the number of unused licenses may be higher than
you think. For example, as the manager of the Pubs department
Diane,
When I left Frame Tech in 1994, internal metrics and intelligent speculation
put the total number of worldwide licenses at around 300K. With Wanock's
listing of 500K 5 years later, you could assume liberal growth of 40,000
licenses per year which would put the probable current figure
Diane,
A friend forwarded an article to me with more substantial and credible
statistics. Econtent magazine ran an article June of last year which quoted
800,000 FrameMaker users and 50,000 Arbortext Users. (Ironically, my liberal
extrapolation would have put users at 780,000, so I wasn't too
Totally random point of interest---that is also roughly the number of
certificated pilots in the US.
Maxwell Hoffmann wrote:
I think 650,000 total licenses would be a safe, conservative figure.
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Subject: RE: How many FM users are there?
Diane,
When I left Frame Tech in 1994, internal metrics and intelligent speculation
put the total number of worldwide licenses at around 300K. With Wanock's
listing of 500K 5 years later, you could assume liberal growth
an application runs.
Thanks lots!
Diane
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From: Maxwell Hoffmann [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: May 10, 2007 10:07 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: How many FM users are there?
Diane,
A friend forwarded an article to me with more substantial and credible
Totally random point of interest---that is also roughly the number of
certificated pilots in the US.
Maxwell Hoffmann wrote:
> I think 650,000 total licenses would be a safe, conservative figure.
>
Hi Diane,
Adobe should know how many licenses they have _sold_. How many are
_using_ FM is a different matter. I guess they are somewhat fewer. I
base that assumption on the fact that you can get used FM second hand
(including all paperwork). This leads me to assume that a (small?)
number of
At the 1999 FrameUsers Conference in Minneapolis, somebody posed this
question to Adobe co-founder and then-CEO John Warnock in a public Q/A
session. He responded that FrameMaker had about a half-million
installed seats worldwide.
This information is a bit old, but it is the only public
FrameMaker licenses on UNIX can be shared or personal.
Users can check out a shared license when they need it, then
check it back in when they're done. Depending on demand, the
number of users of a single shared license can vary, so it's
difficult to be precise.
Personal licenses are
My guess is that there are some exceptions to this.
People who routinely try out software are good at
reading online help and figuring out software even
more complex (gasp!) than FrameMaker. This is not an
endorsement of piracy, but were I Adobe, I might
encourage this behavior, because people who
Sent: Wednesday, May 9, 2007 3:20:53 AM
Subject: Re: How many FM users are there?
Hi Diane,
Adobe should know how many licenses they have _sold_. How many are
_using_ FM is a different matter. I guess they are somewhat fewer. I
base that assumption on the fact that you can get used FM second hand
Susan Modlin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Hi Bodvar,
Given that many FrameMaker users are in the software
industry (at least here in Northern California), the number
of unused licenses may be higher than you think. For
example, as the manager of the Pubs department at Company
A, I bought nine
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