Re: Importing single variable values?
Hi Chuck, My ImportFormatsSpecial plugin gives you separate checkboxes for importing user variables and system variables. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Esteemed Framers, I think I once knew the answer to this question, but it escapes me now, and I can find nothing in the Frame documentation: Is there any way to import a single or a selected subset of variable values from one document to another? I tend to think there is not, that it is all-or-nothing, but I thought I'd check to be sure. Anyone out there know for sure? Chuck Beck Sr. Technical Writer | Infor | Office: 614.523.7302 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Importing single variable values?
Would this also work for importing select paragraph formats? Diane Schaefer Senior Technical Writer Sandvine Technologies Ltd. [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] tel. 972-2-540-090, ext. 125 From: rebecca officer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 22:22 To: Charles Beck; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Importing single variable values? Hi Charles If all your system variables have the same value in all files in the book, you can make an import-from FM file and delete the variables you don't want, then import variable definitions from that file. Problem is, you can't delete system variables. But you can with a mif fragment. Create a .mif file by saving from FM, then gut it in a text editor so that it only has the variables you want to change. That removes the system variables that you don't want to change, so you can import into all files in the book. Works beautifully. You can use it to change just user variables, just system variables, or a mix. For example, to just change a variable called BookName, one of our mif fragments has this stuff: MIFFile 7.00 VariableFormats VariableFormat VariableName `BookName' VariableDef `Rapier i Switch Software Reference' # end of VariableFormat # end of VariableFormats # End of MIFFile Once you've gutted your mif file, you musn't ever save it from FrameMaker, or it adds in values for the system variables, and a pile of other stuff. Cheers, Rebecca Charles Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14/01/08 16:08 Esteemed Framers, I think I once knew the answer to this question, but it escapes me now, and I can find nothing in the Frame documentation: Is there any way to import a single or a selected subset of variable values from one document to another? I tend to think there is not, that it is all-or-nothing, but I thought I'd check to be sure. Anyone out there know for sure? ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Importing single variable values?
Hello, i have a set of FrameScript-scripts for import of many formats (character formats, colors, conditional formats, variable formats etc.) http://framescript.natebus.de/index.php?navi=superimportbundle#ImportSelVarFmt Best regards Karsten Esteemed Framers, I think I once knew the answer to this question, but it escapes me now, and I can find nothing in the Frame documentation: Is there any way to import a single or a selected subset of variable values from one document to another? I tend to think there is not, that it is all-or-nothing, but I thought I'd check to be sure. Anyone out there know for sure? Chuck Beck Sr. Technical Writer | Infor | Office: 614.523.7302 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/frameusers%40natebus.de Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Importing single variable values?
A third variant --- 1. Create and save a new temporary document that has the new variables/variable definitions that you want. 2. Import *only* the variables from that document into the existing document/book that you want changed. Grant -Original Message- From: Fred Ridder Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 8:37 PM To: Charles Beck; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: Importing single variable values? Chuck Beck asked: I think I once knew the answer to this question, but it escapes me now, and I can find nothing in the Frame documentation: Is there any way to import a single or a selected subset of variable values from one document to another? I tend to think there is not, that it is all-or-nothing, but I thought I'd check to be sure. Are you talking about importing a handful of new variables or redefining the values for a handful of existing variables? If it's the former, there is a workaround that isn't too onerous, but if it's the latter there are only two indirect solutions I'm aware of: A) script it with FrameScript(fine if you have the tool...) B) do it as text replacements in MIF (not much easier than doing it manually, it seems to me...) The workaqround for importing new variables (names not yet defined in the target document) is this: 1) In the document that contains the variables, create a temporary paragraph that contains each of the desired variables. 2) Copy that paragraph and paste it into the other document. The variable names and definitions will be added to that document's list of user variables. If any variable's name is already defined in the second document, the paste operation will only insert a reference to the existing variable without changing its definition. -Fred Ridder ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Importing single variable values?
Diane Schaefer asked: Would this [importing a MIF fragment] also work for importing select paragraph formats? Yes, it would work for that but there is a much more direct approach that I think is a lot easier. Just make a special file (consider it a template since it need not contain any text content, although I always recommend using the body of template files to self-document the template's design and features) whose Paragraph Catalog contains *only* the styles you want to import. Simple and much more foolproof than poking around in the MIF code, IMO. Note that this is basically the same as the third variant technique that Grant Hogarth suggested in his post earlier today. (I am really embarassed to have forgotten that approach when I posted my reply in this thread last evening, since I've been using the technique for at least 6 or 7 years. Must be an early sign of what's-his-name's disease...) Fred Ridder _ Watch “Cause Effect,” a show about real people making a real difference. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_watchcause ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Importing single variable values?
You only need to muck with MIF files when importing variable formats because FM has this really annoying feature of not letting you remove the system variables, so a MIF fragment is the only way to make a template that doesn't have them. That's the problem with the third variant from Grant and others, and it's only a problem if your system variables change across the book. Ours did - we changed page number styles. With paragraph styles this issue doesn't exist, so you could use MIF fragments but don't have to. Importing from an FM file is fine and certainly simpler! Rick's ImportFormatsSpecial plugin sounds interesting for letting you separate the system and user variables. Cheers, Rebecca Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED] 15/01/08 06:56 Diane Schaefer asked: Would this [importing a MIF fragment] also work for importing select paragraph formats? Yes, it would work for that but there is a much more direct approach that I think is a lot easier. Just make a special file (consider it a template since it need not contain any text content, although I always recommend using the body of template files to self-document the template's design and features) whose Paragraph Catalog contains *only* the styles you want to import. Simple and much more foolproof than poking around in the MIF code, IMO. Note that this is basically the same as the third variant technique that Grant Hogarth suggested in his post earlier today. (I am really embarassed to have forgotten that approach when I posted my reply in this thread last evening, since I've been using the technique for at least 6 or 7 years. Must be an early sign of what's-his-name's disease...) Fred Ridder _ Watch “Cause Effect,” a show about real people making a real difference. http://im.live.com/Messenger/IM/MTV/?source=text_watchcause ___ NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Importing single variable values?
Hi Charles If all your system variables have the same value in all files in the book, you can make an import-from FM file and delete the variables you don't want, then import variable definitions from that file. Problem is, you can't delete system variables. But you can with a mif fragment. Create a .mif file by saving from FM, then gut it in a text editor so that it only has the variables you want to change. That removes the system variables that you don't want to change, so you can import into all files in the book. Works beautifully. You can use it to change just user variables, just system variables, or a mix. For example, to just change a variable called BookName, one of our mif fragments has this stuff: MIFFile 7.00 VariableFormats VariableFormat VariableName `BookName' VariableDef `Rapier i Switch Software Reference' # end of VariableFormat # end of VariableFormats # End of MIFFile Once you've gutted your mif file, you musn't ever save it from FrameMaker, or it adds in values for the system variables, and a pile of other stuff. Cheers, Rebecca Charles Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14/01/08 16:08 Esteemed Framers, I think I once knew the answer to this question, but it escapes me now, and I can find nothing in the Frame documentation: Is there any way to import a single or a selected subset of variable values from one document to another? I tend to think there is not, that it is all-or-nothing, but I thought I'd check to be sure. Anyone out there know for sure? Chuck Beck Sr. Technical Writer | Infor | Office: 614.523.7302 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rebecca.officer%40alliedtelesis.co.nz Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Importing single variable values?
Thanks, Rebecca! This sounds like an excellent and workable (if a bit roundabout) solution. I'll give it a try tomorrow and let you know how it goes. Thanks again! Chuck -Original Message- From: rebecca officer [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, January 13, 2008 22:22 To: Charles Beck; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Importing single variable values? Hi Charles If all your system variables have the same value in all files in the book, you can make an import-from FM file and delete the variables you don't want, then import variable definitions from that file. Problem is, you can't delete system variables. But you can with a mif fragment. Create a .mif file by saving from FM, then gut it in a text editor so that it only has the variables you want to change. That removes the system variables that you don't want to change, so you can import into all files in the book. Works beautifully. You can use it to change just user variables, just system variables, or a mix. For example, to just change a variable called BookName, one of our mif fragments has this stuff: MIFFile 7.00 VariableFormats VariableFormat VariableName `BookName' VariableDef `Rapier i Switch Software Reference' # end of VariableFormat # end of VariableFormats # End of MIFFile Once you've gutted your mif file, you musn't ever save it from FrameMaker, or it adds in values for the system variables, and a pile of other stuff. Cheers, Rebecca Charles Beck [EMAIL PROTECTED] 14/01/08 16:08 Esteemed Framers, I think I once knew the answer to this question, but it escapes me now, and I can find nothing in the Frame documentation: Is there any way to import a single or a selected subset of variable values from one document to another? I tend to think there is not, that it is all-or-nothing, but I thought I'd check to be sure. Anyone out there know for sure? Chuck Beck Sr. Technical Writer | Infor | Office: 614.523.7302 | [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/rebecca.officer%40al liedtelesis.co.nz Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. NOTICE: This message contains privileged and confidential information intended only for the use of the addressee named above. If you are not the intended recipient of this message you are hereby notified that you must not disseminate, copy or take any action in reliance on it. If you have received this message in error please notify Allied Telesis Labs Ltd immediately. Any views expressed in this message are those of the individual sender, except where the sender has the authority to issue and specifically states them to be the views of Allied Telesis Labs. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Importing single variable values?
Chuck Beck asked: I think I once knew the answer to this question, but it escapes me now, and I can find nothing in the Frame documentation: Is there any way to import a single or a selected subset of variable values from one document to another? I tend to think there is not, that it is all-or-nothing, but I thought I'd check to be sure. Are you talking about importing a handful of new variables or redefining the values for a handful of existing variables? If it's the former, there is a workaround that isn't too onerous, but if it's the latter there are only two indirect solutions I'm aware of: A) script it with FrameScript(fine if you have the tool...) B) do it as text replacements in MIF (not much easier than doing it manually, it seems to me...) The workaqround for importing new variables (names not yet defined in the target document) is this: 1) In the document that contains the variables, create a temporary paragraph that contains each of the desired variables. 2) Copy that paragraph and paste it into the other document. The variable names and definitions will be added to that document's list of user variables. If any variable's name is already defined in the second document, the paste operation will only insert a reference to the existing variable without changing its definition. -Fred Ridder _ Get the power of Windows + Web with the new Windows Live. http://www.windowslive.com?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_Wave2_powerofwindows_012008 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
