RE: Indexing Multiple Books?
Art, this is great information. I have a question. Where do I set the book title prefix for the index entries? In the index marker itself inside the books, or would I set it on the reference page so when the index is generated, we end up with book_name - page# (Admin - 35). Thanks, -Patrick -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:52 AM To: Patrick Nolan Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Indexing Multiple Books? Yes and no. Each book file is just a container for the chapters; it doesn't actually change them. ;- ) You want to be sure to mimic the chapter-page numbering style of the source book in the meta-book. Chapter 1 in Admin can still carry the label Chapter 1and the following chapters will still take their incremental numbering increase from it. And the page numbering setup should stay the same. Only difference is you restart book-level numbering with Chapter 1 from the Installation Guide and so on throughout the metabook This also makes it easier to set the book label prefix -- unless you're already using it, you can pick up the Volume numbering $volnum variable and set it to text using the string you decide to use for each book's prefix. Just as a BTW, the chapter numbering in the original books will still be valid when you operate from the original book file. You're not changing anything in THAT book; you're setting all the new properties in an entirely separate book file that just happens to contain the same chapters. The chapter files don't know about a particlar book's settings if you work on them outside that book. Art On 8/1/06, Patrick Nolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Art, What I don't understand is, if I create a new book and add all the indexable chapters, wont these chapters lose their pagination? I.e., wouldn't they get a new pagination from the new book? -Patrick -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:33 AM To: Patrick Nolan Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Indexing Multiple Books? I think it's in the manual somewhere, but all you need to do is create a meta-book that contains all the indexable chapters from your doc set member books. Nesting books isn't supported. Only extra step is when you generate the index, you'll probably need to include a prefix to ID the book before the page citation -- Admin 301, Install 3-14, etc. The metabook is also useful for updating / synching all formats and applying any other changes you want to ripple into multiple books. Art snip In other words, they are asking for a master, multi-volume index for all the books. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Indexing Multiple Books?
My first choice would be to set it in the meta file numbering properties for each chapter file. Unless you're already using it for something, use the Volume Number setting/variable to set a text string for all chapters of a component book. Then use $volnum to pull it into each listing. So you'd probably end up with something that looked like $volnum $pagenum to pull both variables in. Art On 8/3/06, Patrick Nolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Art, this is great information. I have a question. Where do I set the book title prefix for the index entries? In the index marker itself inside the books, or would I set it on the reference page so when the index is generated, we end up with book_name - page# (Admin - 35). Thanks, -Patrick -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:52 AM To: Patrick Nolan Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Indexing Multiple Books? Yes and no. Each book file is just a container for the chapters; it doesn't actually change them. ;- ) You want to be sure to mimic the chapter-page numbering style of the source book in the meta-book. Chapter 1 in Admin can still carry the label Chapter 1and the following chapters will still take their incremental numbering increase from it. And the page numbering setup should stay the same. Only difference is you restart book-level numbering with Chapter 1 from the Installation Guide and so on throughout the metabook This also makes it easier to set the book label prefix -- unless you're already using it, you can pick up the Volume numbering $volnum variable and set it to text using the string you decide to use for each book's prefix. Just as a BTW, the chapter numbering in the original books will still be valid when you operate from the original book file. You're not changing anything in THAT book; you're setting all the new properties in an entirely separate book file that just happens to contain the same chapters. The chapter files don't know about a particlar book's settings if you work on them outside that book. Art On 8/1/06, Patrick Nolan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Art, What I don't understand is, if I create a new book and add all the indexable chapters, wont these chapters lose their pagination? I.e., wouldn't they get a new pagination from the new book? -Patrick -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:33 AM To: Patrick Nolan Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Indexing Multiple Books? I think it's in the manual somewhere, but all you need to do is create a meta-book that contains all the indexable chapters from your doc set member books. Nesting books isn't supported. Only extra step is when you generate the index, you'll probably need to include a prefix to ID the book before the page citation -- Admin 301, Install 3-14, etc. The metabook is also useful for updating / synching all formats and applying any other changes you want to ripple into multiple books. Art snip In other words, they are asking for a master, multi-volume index for all the books. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Indexing Multiple Books?
I think it's in the manual somewhere, but all you need to do is create a meta-book that contains all the indexable chapters from your doc set member books. Nesting books isn't supported. Only extra step is when you generate the index, you'll probably need to include a prefix to ID the book before the page citation -- Admin 301, Install 3-14, etc. The metabook is also useful for updating / synching all formats and applying any other changes you want to ripple into multiple books. Art snip In other words, they are asking for a master, multi-volume index for all the books. snip -Patrick Nolan Senior Technical Writer Opsware, Inc. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Indexing Multiple Books?
Art, What I don't understand is, if I create a new book and add all the indexable chapters, wont these chapters lose their pagination? I.e., wouldn't they get a new pagination from the new book? -Patrick -Original Message- From: Art Campbell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, August 01, 2006 11:33 AM To: Patrick Nolan Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Indexing Multiple Books? I think it's in the manual somewhere, but all you need to do is create a meta-book that contains all the indexable chapters from your doc set member books. Nesting books isn't supported. Only extra step is when you generate the index, you'll probably need to include a prefix to ID the book before the page citation -- Admin 301, Install 3-14, etc. The metabook is also useful for updating / synching all formats and applying any other changes you want to ripple into multiple books. Art snip In other words, they are asking for a master, multi-volume index for all the books. snip -Patrick Nolan Senior Technical Writer Opsware, Inc. -- Art Campbell [EMAIL PROTECTED] ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Indexing Multiple Books?
If you want a little help with building the uber-book .. you can use our ComboBook plugin (it's free) .. http://www.leximation.com/tools/info/combobook.php Cheers! ...scott Scott Prentice Leximation, Inc. www.leximation.com +1.415.485.1892 Steve Rickaby wrote: At 10:52 -0700 1/8/06, Patrick Nolan wrote: Has anyone ever done this? Would I make multiple books inside one big book and generate an index? We're talking a few thousand pages here. I can second what Art's posted: I've done this too, and it works. Be careful not the change the pagination of your Ur-book! ;-) Put all the books on line as PDFs and include hyperlnks in the global index and you're really flying. There used to be a requirements to have all relevant files open at the same time to get the links correct, don't know if this still applies. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
