RE: My work-flow for dealing with backups from FrameMaker--getting rid of backups
I like having backups available in case of crashes or other emergencies, so I don't want to turn them off. As it's also my habit to save different versions of an active FrameMaker project in different folders, backups are only required for those emergencies. That makes a lot of clutter in the folder for my FM files, and there are times I need to see my files without the clutter. Deleting or moving backups is not easy if you have lots of files; you can reorder the files any way you like but the backups stay glued to their parent FM files. To get rid of the backups temporarily, I wrote an old-fashioned batch (BAT) file that moves backup files to a folder on my C: drive (FM_Backup) and then deletes the log file. It takes only a few seconds to run, and leaves a pristine view of the FM files. IMPORTANT: This only works when FrameMaker is closed because FM automatically regenerates backup files as soon as you touch an open file. The code I use is below. You can modify it to delete the files instead of moving them, change the backup folder name, get rid of the log deletion, whatever you'd like. 1. In Notepad or another text editor, copy the following lines: Move *.backup.fm C:\\FM_Backup Move *.backup.book C:\\FM_Backup pause Del *.log pause Exit 2. Save the file as FM_backup.bat or any other name as long as it has a BAT extension. 3. Create a backup folder on your C drive called FM_Backup. You can name this folder anything as long as it matches the folder name in the BAT file. 4. Copy or move the BAT file into the same folder as your working FrameMaker files. IMPORTANT: You must insert a separate copy of the BAT file into every folder that contains your FrameMaker files. 5. To run, double-click FM_backup.bat. The pauses stop the program to provide feedback as it moves the files. 6. Don't forget to delete the backup files when they are no longer needed, as the backup folder gets bloated quickly. I especially like using this when I save different versions of an ongoing project. When I open a folder containing an earlier version, I only see the project files. The code uses the simple DOS commands move, delete, pause, and exit. It doesn't save multiple versions of backups or work from any location except where the FM files are stored, but you could get fancy if you're inspired to take this to another level. Amy Sharp Geophysical Technical Writer ConocoPhillips Co. Work: 281-293-1819 amy.sh...@cop.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: My work-flow for dealing with backups from FrameMaker--getting rid of backups
What you wrote is conceptually similar to what I do, except that I don't put the backup files into a single location on my disk drive. As I described earlier, each document's main directory has a subdir just below where I am working, so it always puts the backup files only there. Hence the backed up files from different documents are always separated and easy to retrieve. Plus, with my copy all approach (see below), using a single location would cause common file names to cause content to be trashed. I do keep the BAT command file itself in a single location though - it is easily accessed from my DOS path as needed. Here is my BAT command file. I use copy with the /Y option to overwrite. In it, I copy all the files - not just the FrameMaker ones - since there are other files there too (for example, .ini files from tools that are used within FrameMaker): copy/y *.* .\Archive\ del *.backup.* *.log *.tps *.tpdf *.bak This gives me a clean working environment for each editing session. Then, when I am done releasing a particular document, I run another BAT file finally that does the following: rmdir/s .\Archive\ The /S option is to delete subdirectories. Z From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Sharp, Amy Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 8:20 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: My work-flow for dealing with backups from FrameMaker--getting rid of backups I like having backups available in case of crashes or other emergencies, so I don't want to turn them off. As it's also my habit to save different versions of an active FrameMaker project in different folders, backups are only required for those emergencies. That makes a lot of clutter in the folder for my FM files, and there are times I need to see my files without the clutter. Deleting or moving backups is not easy if you have lots of files; you can reorder the files any way you like but the backups stay glued to their parent FM files. To get rid of the backups temporarily, I wrote an old-fashioned batch (BAT) file that moves backup files to a folder on my C: drive (FM_Backup) and then deletes the log file. It takes only a few seconds to run, and leaves a pristine view of the FM files. IMPORTANT: This only works when FrameMaker is closed because FM automatically regenerates backup files as soon as you touch an open file. The code I use is below. You can modify it to delete the files instead of moving them, change the backup folder name, get rid of the log deletion, whatever you'd like. 1. In Notepad or another text editor, copy the following lines: Move *.backup.fm C:\\FM_Backup Move *.backup.book C:\\FM_Backup pause Del *.log pause Exit 2. Save the file as FM_backup.bat or any other name as long as it has a BAT extension. 3. Create a backup folder on your C drive called FM_Backup. You can name this folder anything as long as it matches the folder name in the BAT file. 4. Copy or move the BAT file into the same folder as your working FrameMaker files. IMPORTANT: You must insert a separate copy of the BAT file into every folder that contains your FrameMaker files. 5. To run, double-click FM_backup.bat. The pauses stop the program to provide feedback as it moves the files. 6. Don't forget to delete the backup files when they are no longer needed, as the backup folder gets bloated quickly. I especially like using this when I save different versions of an ongoing project. When I open a folder containing an earlier version, I only see the project files. The code uses the simple DOS commands move, delete, pause, and exit. It doesn't save multiple versions of backups or work from any location except where the FM files are stored, but you could get fancy if you're inspired to take this to another level. Amy Sharp Geophysical Technical Writer ConocoPhillips Co. Work: 281-293-1819 amy.sh...@cop.commailto:amy.sh...@cop.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: My work-flow for dealing with backups from FrameMaker--getting rid of backups
Hi Amy, I have been messing around with your batch file idea but I am having an issue with it. I want to create a batch file to copy all files in the current directory EXCEPT for the actual batch file, and no matter what I do using the copy command it simply does not work. So, do you know how I can exclude the .bat file when copying files? Thanks in advance, Jaime From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Sharp, Amy Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:20 AM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: My work-flow for dealing with backups from FrameMaker--getting rid of backups I like having backups available in case of crashes or other emergencies, so I don't want to turn them off. As it's also my habit to save different versions of an active FrameMaker project in different folders, backups are only required for those emergencies. That makes a lot of clutter in the folder for my FM files, and there are times I need to see my files without the clutter. Deleting or moving backups is not easy if you have lots of files; you can reorder the files any way you like but the backups stay glued to their parent FM files. To get rid of the backups temporarily, I wrote an old-fashioned batch (BAT) file that moves backup files to a folder on my C: drive (FM_Backup) and then deletes the log file. It takes only a few seconds to run, and leaves a pristine view of the FM files. IMPORTANT: This only works when FrameMaker is closed because FM automatically regenerates backup files as soon as you touch an open file. The code I use is below. You can modify it to delete the files instead of moving them, change the backup folder name, get rid of the log deletion, whatever you'd like. 1. In Notepad or another text editor, copy the following lines: Move *.backup.fm C:\\FM_Backup Move *.backup.book C:\\FM_Backup pause Del *.log pause Exit 2. Save the file as FM_backup.bat or any other name as long as it has a BAT extension. 3. Create a backup folder on your C drive called FM_Backup. You can name this folder anything as long as it matches the folder name in the BAT file. 4. Copy or move the BAT file into the same folder as your working FrameMaker files. IMPORTANT: You must insert a separate copy of the BAT file into every folder that contains your FrameMaker files. 5. To run, double-click FM_backup.bat. The pauses stop the program to provide feedback as it moves the files. 6. Don't forget to delete the backup files when they are no longer needed, as the backup folder gets bloated quickly. I especially like using this when I save different versions of an ongoing project. When I open a folder containing an earlier version, I only see the project files. The code uses the simple DOS commands move, delete, pause, and exit. It doesn't save multiple versions of backups or work from any location except where the FM files are stored, but you could get fancy if you're inspired to take this to another level. Amy Sharp Geophysical Technical Writer ConocoPhillips Co. Work: 281-293-1819 amy.sh...@cop.commailto:amy.sh...@cop.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
[EXTERNAL]RE: My work-flow for dealing with backups from FrameMaker--getting rid of backups
Syed, Good stuff. This is why it's so nice to have a little DOS in your pocket so you can customize it for the way you work. Jaime, Are you copying *.*? That copies everything. I don't know of an exclusionary command with copy, but it may exist-I'm not an expert, I just troll the web until I find what I need. ;-) For now, to copy everything except *.bat, you would need to specify only the file types to be copied, as in *.fm, *.backup.fm, *.backup.book, *.log, etc. For example: Copy *.backup.fm *.backup.book *.log *.pdf .\ProjectBackup\ Amy Sharp Geophysical Technical Writer ConocoPhillips Co. MO1050 Work: 281-293-1819 Mobile: 713-724-8485 amy.sh...@cop.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: [EXTERNAL]RE: My work-flow for dealing with backups from FrameMaker--getting rid of backups
Hi Amy, Yes, sorry, I tried the *.* option to copy all files, and as I mentioned it copies ALL files including the .bat file. If I limit it to finding only the types of files I want to copy then it works, in my case*.xml. But it is rather limiting in the case that I had, say, 10 different file types I would have liked. Anyway, I'll keep playing with it. Thanks, Jaime From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Sharp, Amy Sent: Tuesday, September 16, 2014 3:34 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: [EXTERNAL]RE: My work-flow for dealing with backups from FrameMaker--getting rid of backups Syed, Good stuff. This is why it's so nice to have a little DOS in your pocket so you can customize it for the way you work. Jaime, Are you copying *.*? That copies everything. I don't know of an exclusionary command with copy, but it may exist-I'm not an expert, I just troll the web until I find what I need. ;-) For now, to copy everything except *.bat, you would need to specify only the file types to be copied, as in *.fm, *.backup.fm, *.backup.book, *.log, etc. For example: Copy *.backup.fm *.backup.book *.log *.pdf .\ProjectBackup\ Amy Sharp Geophysical Technical Writer ConocoPhillips Co. MO1050 Work: 281-293-1819 Mobile: 713-724-8485 amy.sh...@cop.commailto:amy.sh...@cop.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: My work-flow for dealing with backups from FrameMaker--getting rid of backups
Hi Jamie, You could also add a couple of lines to the script: cd to the drive you copy to, and from there del the .bat file. Cheers, Bodvar On Tue, Sep 16, 2014 at 7:04 PM, Jaime Zuniga jzun...@protranslating.com wrote: Hi Amy, I have been messing around with your batch file idea but I am having an issue with it. I want to create a batch file to copy all files in the current directory EXCEPT for the actual batch file, and no matter what I do using the copy command it simply does not work. So, do you know how I can exclude the .bat file when copying files? Thanks in advance, Jaime *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Sharp, Amy *Sent:* Tuesday, September 16, 2014 11:20 AM *To:* framers@lists.frameusers.com *Subject:* RE: My work-flow for dealing with backups from FrameMaker--getting rid of backups I like having backups available in case of crashes or other emergencies, so I don’t want to turn them off. As it’s also my habit to save different “versions” of an active FrameMaker project in different folders, backups are only required for those emergencies. That makes a lot of clutter in the folder for my FM files, and there are times I need to see my files without the clutter. Deleting or moving backups is not easy if you have lots of files; you can reorder the files any way you like but the backups stay glued to their parent FM files. To get rid of the backups temporarily, I wrote an old-fashioned batch (BAT) file that moves backup files to a folder on my C: drive (FM_Backup) and then deletes the log file. It takes only a few seconds to run, and leaves a pristine view of the FM files. IMPORTANT: This only works when FrameMaker is closed because FM automatically regenerates backup files as soon as you touch an open file. The code I use is below. You can modify it to delete the files instead of moving them, change the backup folder name, get rid of the log deletion, whatever you’d like. 1. In Notepad or another text editor, copy the following lines: Move *.backup.fm C:\\FM_Backup Move *.backup.book C:\\FM_Backup pause Del *.log pause Exit 2. Save the file as “FM_backup.bat” or any other name as long as it has a BAT extension. 3. Create a backup folder on your C drive called “FM_Backup.” You can name this folder anything as long as it matches the folder name in the BAT file. 4. Copy or move the BAT file into the same folder as your working FrameMaker files. IMPORTANT: You must insert a separate copy of the BAT file into every folder that contains your FrameMaker files. 5. To run, double-click “FM_backup.bat.” The pauses stop the program to provide feedback as it moves the files. 6. Don’t forget to delete the backup files when they are no longer needed, as the backup folder gets bloated quickly. I especially like using this when I save different “versions” of an ongoing project. When I open a folder containing an earlier version, I only see the project files. The code uses the simple DOS commands move, delete, pause, and exit. It doesn’t save multiple versions of backups or work from any location except where the FM files are stored, but you could get fancy if you’re inspired to take this to another level. *Amy Sharp* Geophysical Technical Writer ConocoPhillips Co. Work: 281-293-1819 amy.sh...@cop.com ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as bod...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/bodvar%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
