RE: how do people copy-protect their PDFs?
I think that's an excellent question. Could you post answers on-list or forward copies to me? Right now I just use standard Adobe Acrobat security for my Frame generated PDFs (I need printable and digital manuals for the Medical Device industry). But we all know how easy that is to crack. Alison -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins Sent: Sunday, May 05, 2013 1:20 PM To: fram...@omsys.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: how do people copy-protect their PDFs? Does anyone use Adobe LiveCycle as a digital rights management (DRM) solution for selling/distributing their documents? If so, I'd appreciate your emailing me off-list so that I can ask a couple of questions. Thanks in advance, Carol ** Carol J. Elkins---A Written Word LLC Making Information Understandable mailto:celk...@awrittenword.com http://www.awrittenword.com *** ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as alison.cr...@ultrasonix.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alison.craig%40ultrasonix.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: how do people copy-protect their PDFs?
Hi Alison, So far, the only response has been from someone who uses LiveCycle Designer for forms but has no experience with it for ecommerce. Like you, I use Acrobat security for PDFs to prevent changing the docs or copying the content to clipboard, but it cannot prevent copying the entire file. For instance, Company Z has in the past purchased 200 PDF versions of a book of regulatory standards. My client wants to prevent Company Z from simply making copies of the PDF instead of buying all 200 copies. Multiply that by thousands of ecommerce customers to understand the potential revenue that can be lost. My client also wants to begin selling individual standards in addition to books of standards, much like IEEE does with its Xplore Digital Library Subscription Service (http://www.ieee.org/publications_standards/publications/subscriptions/ieee_standards_online_subscription_information.pdf). I have no clue where to begin to research how to accomplish the DRM for this, but I know it is not something in a Technical Writer's general tool kit. Several years ago I read about dongles, encryption, and password management systems, but from a user's perspective they are a burden. I want to find a resource/service that makes it easy to purchase and download a PDF and hard/impossible to copy the PDF. Minimally, I'd like to be able to tell my client how other companies do this; if it is impossible to protect the PDF, then at least he'll know he's in good company. If anyone knows of other solutions to accomplish this, I'd appreciate your insight. I'm treading way outside my skillset here but would like to be able to give my client some basic direction. I wanted to ask fellow Framers first; then I'll move on to the LiveCycle forum or whatever direction you folks point me in. Carol At 03:21 PM 5/6/2013, Alison Craig wrote: I think that's an excellent question. Could you post answers on-list or forward copies to me? Right now I just use standard Adobe Acrobat security for my Frame generated PDFs (I need printable and digital manuals for the Medical Device industry). But we all know how easy that is to crack. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: how do people copy-protect their PDFs?
ebooks? All these issues are solved if you publish to Amazon and bn.com. They manage all the DRM and selling and all that stuff. sharon Sharon Burton 951-369-8590 www.sharonburton.com Twitter: sharonburton Author of 8 Steps to Amazing Webinars, available on Amazon and bn.com -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 3:26 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: how do people copy-protect their PDFs? Hi Alison, So far, the only response has been from someone who uses LiveCycle Designer for forms but has no experience with it for ecommerce. Like you, I use Acrobat security for PDFs to prevent changing the docs or copying the content to clipboard, but it cannot prevent copying the entire file. For instance, Company Z has in the past purchased 200 PDF versions of a book of regulatory standards. My client wants to prevent Company Z from simply making copies of the PDF instead of buying all 200 copies. Multiply that by thousands of ecommerce customers to understand the potential revenue that can be lost. My client also wants to begin selling individual standards in addition to books of standards, much like IEEE does with its Xplore Digital Library Subscription Service (http://www.ieee.org/publications_standards/publications/subscriptions/ieee_ standards_online_subscription_information.pdf). I have no clue where to begin to research how to accomplish the DRM for this, but I know it is not something in a Technical Writer's general tool kit. Several years ago I read about dongles, encryption, and password management systems, but from a user's perspective they are a burden. I want to find a resource/service that makes it easy to purchase and download a PDF and hard/impossible to copy the PDF. Minimally, I'd like to be able to tell my client how other companies do this; if it is impossible to protect the PDF, then at least he'll know he's in good company. If anyone knows of other solutions to accomplish this, I'd appreciate your insight. I'm treading way outside my skillset here but would like to be able to give my client some basic direction. I wanted to ask fellow Framers first; then I'll move on to the LiveCycle forum or whatever direction you folks point me in. Carol At 03:21 PM 5/6/2013, Alison Craig wrote: I think that's an excellent question. Could you post answers on-list or forward copies to me? Right now I just use standard Adobe Acrobat security for my Frame generated PDFs (I need printable and digital manuals for the Medical Device industry). But we all know how easy that is to crack. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as sha...@anthrobytes.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sharon%40anthrobytes.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: how do people copy-protect their PDFs?
Carol, I googled DRM Management PDF and found this: http://www.locklizard.com/pdf_security.htm?gclid=CJmi3pXFgrcCFYN7QgodIxIAmg http://www.drumlinsecurity.com/ -Gillian -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Carol J. Elkins Sent: Monday, May 06, 2013 3:26 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: how do people copy-protect their PDFs? Hi Alison, So far, the only response has been from someone who uses LiveCycle Designer for forms but has no experience with it for ecommerce. Like you, I use Acrobat security for PDFs to prevent changing the docs or copying the content to clipboard, but it cannot prevent copying the entire file. For instance, Company Z has in the past purchased 200 PDF versions of a book of regulatory standards. My client wants to prevent Company Z from simply making copies of the PDF instead of buying all 200 copies. Multiply that by thousands of ecommerce customers to understand the potential revenue that can be lost. My client also wants to begin selling individual standards in addition to books of standards, much like IEEE does with its Xplore Digital Library Subscription Service (http://www.ieee.org/publications_standards/publications/subscriptions/ieee_standards_online_subscription_information.pdf). I have no clue where to begin to research how to accomplish the DRM for this, but I know it is not something in a Technical Writer's general tool kit. Several years ago I read about dongles, encryption, and password management systems, but from a user's perspective they are a burden. I want to find a resource/service that makes it easy to purchase and download a PDF and hard/impossible to copy the PDF. Minimally, I'd like to be able to tell my client how other companies do this; if it is impossible to protect the PDF, then at least he'll know he's in good company. If anyone knows of other solutions to accomplish this, I'd appreciate your insight. I'm treading way outside my skillset here but would like to be able to give my client some basic direction. I wanted to ask fellow Framers first; then I'll move on to the LiveCycle forum or whatever direction you folks point me in. Carol At 03:21 PM 5/6/2013, Alison Craig wrote: I think that's an excellent question. Could you post answers on-list or forward copies to me? Right now I just use standard Adobe Acrobat security for my Frame generated PDFs (I need printable and digital manuals for the Medical Device industry). But we all know how easy that is to crack. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as gillian.fl...@nexenta.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/gillian.flato%40nexenta.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: how do people copy-protect their PDFs?
I think their DRM isn't much harder to crack than PDF passwords. On Mon, May 6, 2013 at 3:37 PM, Sharon Burton sha...@anthrobytes.com wrote: ebooks? All these issues are solved if you publish to Amazon and bn.com. They manage all the DRM and selling and all that stuff. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
