RE: re-use 101

2009-03-16 Thread Guy K. Haas
Inset Plus [sic] is free, and looks very interesting, but the site does not indicate whether it is a product one can just inject into one's Structured FrameMaker system, of if one needs to BUY any of the other West Street Consulting products in order to make use of it. Kristy, can you

RE: re-use 101

2009-03-12 Thread Caroline Tabach
: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Susan Modlin Sent: Wednesday, March 11, 2009 7:46 PM To: Flato, Gillian; Joel; framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: re-use 101 Joel, I'm with Gillian on this one. Using this approach (and variables

Re: re-use 101

2009-03-11 Thread Jerilynne Knight
Hi Joel In my opinion, there are ways you could use several unstructured Frame features to eliminate some of the repetitiveness and cumbersome maintenance. XML is a fabulous choice if there is enough work and other applications to justify doing the development for it. I don't know enough about

RE: re-use 101

2009-03-11 Thread Fei Min Lorente
Hi Joel: I have an incomplete answer, but I'd like to get the ball rolling. I'm still using FrameMaker 7.2, so that's one of my knowledge limitations. I'm counting on others to fill in the gaps. (a) I wouldn't recommend using conditional text because you'd have seven variations and possibly

Re: re-use 101

2009-03-11 Thread Jerilynne Knight
You make excellent points Fei, especially about the conditional text. Another thing: I didn't mention that I often review the content to see if text can be arranged in a different way, or different order, to achieve the results needed (without, of course, compromising readability or usability). I

RE: re-use 101

2009-03-11 Thread Martinek, Carla
-Original Message- I am using Frame 8. I have a set of seven manuals that are close to 100 pages each. Many sections of these manuals are identical, some sections differ in detail in minor ways, and fewer sections differ in more substantial ways. Currently they are all Frame books with

RE: re-use 101

2009-03-11 Thread Kristy Nolan
Hi, Joel! Are you using structured or unstructured Frame? Have you considered using text insets? I found this useful when I had a similar scenario a few years ago on unstructured Frame. If you are on structured, check out InsetPlus at West Street Consulting. We have found this to be very useful

RE: re-use 101

2009-03-11 Thread Kristy Nolan
@lists.frameusers.com Subject: RE: re-use 101 Inset Plus [sic] is free, and looks very interesting, but the site does not indicate whether it is a product one can just inject into one's Structured FrameMaker system, of if one needs to BUY any of the other West Street Consulting products in order to make

RE: re-use 101

2009-03-11 Thread Flato, Gillian
The easiest way to do it is the following: 1. Have 7 Frame book files 2. The book files can share chapter files that are mostly similar; likewise, they don't share chapters that are radically different for each manual. 3. Within the chapters, apply conditional text to the minor differences With

Re: re-use 101

2009-03-11 Thread Joel
Thank you to everyone who has replied. I am going to game plan a little, and do some version of insets or smaller topics that can be combined in the final book. I am on structured Frame, for those who asked, but I don't use the structure, elements, or XML. I just default to strucure in case I use

Re: re-use 101

2009-03-11 Thread Susan Modlin
Joel, I'm with Gillian on this one. Using this approach (and variables on title pages and in running headers and footers for book titles) I managed a pretty complex set of deliverables: two versions each of 10 major guides, and three versions of a training guide that contained pared-down

RE: re-use 101

2009-03-11 Thread Mollye Barrett
Joel, There are so many ways to meet your goals using FrameMaker... You asked for unstructured Frame and reuse so here's a take: When using unstructured Frame I've solved this problem using text insets and a simple spreadsheet for tracking where used information. I have a client that wanted to