RE: Re: Cannot import a .jpg
Hi, Nancy. Re-saving a JPEG original as another JPEG can be "further" lossy (compounding the initial drop in quality) ... you might want to make sure that the image quality has not degraded too far. Assuming you did not go back to the original image source material, of course! You can introduce bits of fluff pixels in places that did not have them before - particularly in sharp edges or steep color transition points. Or you can save in another graphics format - like PNG - that is not lossy. Z -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 1:38 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Re: Cannot import a .jpg Woohoo! Thanks, all -- I downloaded an evaluation copy of SnagIt, opened and saved the file in the same format, and this time FrameMaker imported it with no problem. I suppose any graphics tool might do; SnagIt just happened to be easy. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Cannot import a .jpg
Responding to Nancy Allison, Ed. wrote: > I agree with Art that opening and re-saving the file is your best bet. If > possible, save in another file format than JPG, such as PNG or GIF, as > you'll lose data as a result of compression. You're essentially "re-jpeging > a jpeg", which throws out some pixels each time. That's not quite accurate. JPEG never "throws out" any pixels, because that would change the dimensions of the image itself. What happens is that it throws out some of the information (typically color information) *about* some of the pixels based on its area-based image compression algorithm, which assumes that the vast majority of individual pixels in a photograph will be pretty close in color and brightness to the other pixels that immediately surround it. Yes, it is lossy; and yes, it does cause progressive degradation. But it doesn't do this by reducing the number of pixels, only by reducing the amount of information it records about each pixel. And note that this kind of *image* compression, which is inherently lossy, is a completely different concept than the lossless *data* compression that is used to produce zip files (among other things). In data compression, no data is ever thrown away; it is just stored in a more efficient format. -Fred Ridder ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Re: Cannot import a .jpg
Woohoo! Thanks, all -- I downloaded an evaluation copy of SnagIt, opened and saved the file in the same format, and this time FrameMaker imported it with no problem. I suppose any graphics tool might do; SnagIt just happened to be easy. --Nancy ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Cannot import a .jpg
I agree with Art that opening and re-saving the file is your best bet. If possible, save in another file format than JPG, such as PNG or GIF, as you'll lose data as a result of compression. You're essentially "re-jpeging a jpeg", which throws out some pixels each time. -=Ed. > -Original Message- > From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers- > boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell > Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 4:04 PM > To: Nancy Allison > Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com > Subject: Re: Cannot import a .jpg > > I've run into this a couple times when an application didn't create the .jpg > as the import filter expected it... > Try opening and SaveAs a new file name in Photoshop, or SnagIt Editor, or > another editor that you have on hand to see if a different editor makes a > difference. > > Art > > Art Campbell > art.campb...@gmail.com > "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a > redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson > No disclaimers apply. > DoD 358 > > > On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Nancy Allison wrote: > > > Hi, all. > > > > I am using FrameMaker 7.1 on Windows XP SP3. I've just received many zipped > > .jpgs from someone else; FrameMaker gives me this error message when I try > > to import one: > > > > "The filter encountered an error and could not complete the translation." > > > > They are displayed with no problem in Windows Picture and Fax Viewer. > > > > Any ideas as to what is going on and how I fix the problem? I don't know > > how the jpgs were produced initially but can go back to the source if need > > be. > > > > --Nancy > > ___ > > > > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. > > > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > > or visit > > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as hamonwr...@hotmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/hamonwry12%40hotmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Cannot import a .jpg
I've run into this a couple times when an application didn't create the .jpg as the import filter expected it... Try opening and SaveAs a new file name in Photoshop, or SnagIt Editor, or another editor that you have on hand to see if a different editor makes a difference. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson No disclaimers apply. DoD 358 On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Nancy Allison wrote: > Hi, all. > > I am using FrameMaker 7.1 on Windows XP SP3. I've just received many zipped > .jpgs from someone else; FrameMaker gives me this error message when I try > to import one: > > "The filter encountered an error and could not complete the translation." > > They are displayed with no problem in Windows Picture and Fax Viewer. > > Any ideas as to what is going on and how I fix the problem? I don't know > how the jpgs were produced initially but can go back to the source if need > be. > > --Nancy > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to Framers as art.campb...@gmail.com. > > Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/art.campbell%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to fram...@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
