Re: Text Insets: Any Gotchas?

2007-05-16 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 13:22 -0700 15/5/07, Angela Akridge wrote:

Are there any gotchas with using text insets? For example, can I insert
xrefs so long as all books that use the text inset have the section to which
the text entity references? I assume that I'd need to regenerate to get the
appropriate page number as the page number will vary from book to book.

Yes, there are, although it depends a lot whether the inset files are pure text 
(plain ASCII) or formatted text such as another FrameMaker file. It's a pity 
that the term 'text inset' is used, rather than, say, 'file insets', as the 
fact that text insets are most often *not* pure text is confusing:

. There is a bug in FrameMaker that causes an inset of a FrameMaker file to 
apply the paragraph formatting to the line following the inset. There are 
workarounds to this, which you should be able to find in the archives.

. For the same or a related reason, consecutive text insets can pose problems.

. A normal FrameMaker cross-reference into a text inset will break when/if the 
inset is updated. The workaround for this is the create an explicit 
cross-reference to a named marker. That is, you must create a named marker in 
the FrameMaker file to be inset, import it, and then explicitly reference that 
marker in your cross-reference(s). You cannot, of course, create a 
cross-reference into an ASCII inset.

. Search/replace and spell checking don't look inside text insets. A way around 
this is to separately create an ur-book that contains all your text inset 
files, and spell check/search that. The ur-book is merely a maintenance device, 
and has no relationship to your working book(s).

. The inheritance of variables in text insets is complex and depends on the 
formatting options of the inset. It could therefore pose a maintenance headache.

. Ditto conditional text settings.

I recently wrote an article about the use of text insets to construct modular 
books. Mail me off list if you'd like a copy.

I don't really understand your point about page numbering, other than to say 
yes, you always have to update a book to get correct page numbering.

-- 
Steve
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Text Insets: Any Gotchas?

2007-05-16 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 13:22 -0700 15/5/07, Angela Akridge wrote:

>Are there any gotchas with using text insets? For example, can I insert
>xrefs so long as all books that use the text inset have the section to which
>the text entity references? I assume that I'd need to regenerate to get the
>appropriate page number as the page number will vary from book to book.

Yes, there are, although it depends a lot whether the inset files are pure text 
(plain ASCII) or formatted text such as another FrameMaker file. It's a pity 
that the term 'text inset' is used, rather than, say, 'file insets', as the 
fact that text insets are most often *not* pure text is confusing:

. There is a bug in FrameMaker that causes an inset of a FrameMaker file to 
apply the paragraph formatting to the line following the inset. There are 
workarounds to this, which you should be able to find in the archives.

. For the same or a related reason, consecutive text insets can pose problems.

. A normal FrameMaker cross-reference into a text inset will break when/if the 
inset is updated. The workaround for this is the create an explicit 
cross-reference to a named marker. That is, you must create a named marker in 
the FrameMaker file to be inset, import it, and then explicitly reference that 
marker in your cross-reference(s). You cannot, of course, create a 
cross-reference into an ASCII inset.

. Search/replace and spell checking don't look inside text insets. A way around 
this is to separately create an ur-book that contains all your text inset 
files, and spell check/search that. The ur-book is merely a maintenance device, 
and has no relationship to your working book(s).

. The inheritance of variables in text insets is complex and depends on the 
formatting options of the inset. It could therefore pose a maintenance headache.

. Ditto conditional text settings.

I recently wrote an article about the use of text insets to construct modular 
books. Mail me off list if you'd like a copy.

I don't really understand your point about page numbering, other than to say 
yes, you always have to update a book to get correct page numbering.

-- 
Steve



Text Insets: Any Gotchas?

2007-05-15 Thread Angela Akridge

Are there any gotchas with using text insets? For example, can I insert
xrefs so long as all books that use the text inset have the section to which
the text entity references? I assume that I'd need to regenerate to get the
appropriate page number as the page number will vary from book to book.

Thank you,

Angela
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Text Insets: Any Gotchas?

2007-05-15 Thread Angela Akridge
Are there any gotchas with using text insets? For example, can I insert
xrefs so long as all books that use the text inset have the section to which
the text entity references? I assume that I'd need to regenerate to get the
appropriate page number as the page number will vary from book to book.

Thank you,

Angela