RE: Vertical Alignment Bottom

[Reng, Dr. Winfried]

Hi,

I would really love to be able to set the vertical alignment for
regular paragraphs. I enter this request regularly in the FrameMaker
wishlist:
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform

However, the idea with the table is very good. I will test it later
today. If you have to take into account that translations have less
or more lines than your source text, you cannot use a static solutions.
Thanks for this tip.

Best regards,

Winfried

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-
 boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Artman
 Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:17 PM
 To: jddav...@mmm.com; framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: RE: Vertical Alignment Bottom

 A couple of hacky ideas (I'm also copying others' ideas, to centralize
 them):

 1) Run-in para (2 pit, -2pt space below) followed by a push-down para
 with Space Above Pgf equal to line height minus text frame height.
 1a) Additional push-down paras to accommodate two, three, and more
 lines of text (fiddly).

 2) Single-cell table the size of the text frame, containing a para with
 Cell Vertical Alignment Bottom.

 3) Anchored Frame placed [wherever] with Anchoring Position set to At
 Bottom of Column, shrinkwrapped around a text frame with [whatever]
 para(s). Use the size and position of the text frame in the anchored
 frame, to control para(s)'s positioning relative to the main text frame.
 Set object properties to run around square.

 4) Redesign the master pages with two Flows: one for the top-of-page
 contents and one for the bottom-of-page contents.

 5) Typeset the bottom-of-page contents as footnotes without footnoting
 symbols (or with invisible-color symbols).

 Hell... maybe more ways, but one of those should cover you.
 David

  Original Message 
 Subject: Vertical Alignment Bottom
 From: jddav...@mmm.com
 Date: Mon, February 11, 2013 2:55 pm
 To: framers@lists.frameusers.com

 I'm hoping this email hits the list.  My last few email have not.

 Does anyone know how to force texts to vertically align with the bottom
 of the text frame?

 Thanks,
 Jess

   Jessica Davis | Technical Writer
  Motor Vehicle Systems  Services
  3M Company, 28100 Cabot Dr | Novi, MI 48377
  Office: 248 374 9652
  jddav...@mmm.com | www.3M.com

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Vertical Alignment Bottom

[Reng, Dr. Winfried]

Hi,

I would really love to be able to set the vertical alignment for
regular paragraphs. I enter this request regularly in the FrameMaker
wishlist:
https://www.adobe.com/cfusion/mmform/index.cfm?name=wishform

However, the idea with the table is very good. I will test it later
today. If you have to take into account that translations have less
or more lines than your source text, you cannot use a static solutions.
Thanks for this tip.

Best regards,

Winfried

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-
> bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of David Artman
> Sent: Wednesday, February 13, 2013 9:17 PM
> To: jddavis2 at mmm.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: RE: Vertical Alignment Bottom
>
> A couple of hacky ideas (I'm also copying others' ideas, to centralize
> them):
>
> 1) Run-in para (2 pit, -2pt space below) followed by a "push-down" para
> with Space Above Pgf equal to line height minus text frame height.
> 1a) Additional "push-down" paras to accommodate two, three, and more
> lines of text (fiddly).
>
> 2) Single-cell table the size of the text frame, containing a para with
> Cell Vertical Alignment "Bottom".
>
> 3) Anchored Frame placed [wherever] with Anchoring Position set to "At
> Bottom of Column", shrinkwrapped around a text frame with [whatever]
> para(s). Use the size and position of the text frame in the anchored
> frame, to control para(s)'s positioning relative to the main text frame.
> Set object properties to run around square.
>
> 4) Redesign the master pages with two Flows: one for the top-of-page
> contents and one for the bottom-of-page contents.
>
> 5) Typeset the bottom-of-page contents as footnotes without footnoting
> symbols (or with invisible-color symbols).
>
> Hell... maybe more ways, but one of those should cover you.
> David
>
>  Original Message 
> Subject: Vertical Alignment Bottom
> From: jddavis2 at mmm.com
> Date: Mon, February 11, 2013 2:55 pm
> To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
>
> I'm hoping this email hits the list.  My last few email have not.
>
> Does anyone know how to force texts to vertically align with the bottom
> of the text frame?
>
> Thanks,
> Jess
>
>   Jessica Davis | Technical Writer
>  Motor Vehicle Systems & Services
>  3M Company, 28100 Cabot Dr | Novi, MI 48377
>  Office: 248 374 9652
>  jddavis2 at mmm.com | www.3M.com
>
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RE: Vertical Alignment Bottom

[Craig Ede]

 

 

From: Craig Ede [mailto:craig...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 5:54 PM
To: 'Rick Quatro'
Subject: RE: Vertical Alignment Bottom

 

I suppose you could set the space above for your paragraph tag to something
that would push the text to the bottom of the text frame. Framemaker ignores
this setting for the first para on a page, so you'd have to pair your
special paratag with another tag above it. Also, this would only work for a
single line as the text would go to the next page if it wrapped. But you
could design a sequence of blank tags with various spacing setting to go
above to allow 2, 3 or more lines. Too much work really.

 

Best to just put your text in an invisible cell that fills the frame and set
the text to align with the bottom of the cell.

 

Craig 

 

 

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Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 2:55 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Vertical Alignment Bottom

 

I'm hoping this email hits the list.  My last few email have not. 

Does anyone know how to force texts to vertically align with the bottom of
the text frame?   

Thanks, 
Jess 



Jessica Davis | Technical Writer
Motor Vehicle Systems  Services
3M Company, 28100 Cabot Dr | Novi, MI 48377
Office: 248 374 9652
 mailto:gaak...@mmm.com jddav...@mmm.com |  http://www.3m.com/
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RE: Vertical Alignment Bottom

[David Artman]

A couple of hacky ideas (I'm also copying others' ideas, to centralize
them):

1) Run-in para (2 pit, -2pt space below) followed by a push-down para
with Space Above Pgf equal to line height minus text frame height.
1a) Additional push-down paras to accommodate two, three, and more
lines of text (fiddly).

2) Single-cell table the size of the text frame, containing a para with
Cell Vertical Alignment Bottom.

3) Anchored Frame placed [wherever] with Anchoring Position set to At
Bottom of Column, shrinkwrapped around a text frame with [whatever]
para(s). Use the size and position of the text frame in the anchored
frame, to control para(s)'s positioning relative to the main text frame.
Set object properties to run around square.

4) Redesign the master pages with two Flows: one for the top-of-page
contents and one for the bottom-of-page contents.

5) Typeset the bottom-of-page contents as footnotes without footnoting
symbols (or with invisible-color symbols).

Hell... maybe more ways, but one of those should cover you.
David

 Original Message 
Subject: Vertical Alignment Bottom
From: jddav...@mmm.com
Date: Mon, February 11, 2013 2:55 pm
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com

I'm hoping this email hits the list.  My last few email have not. 
 
Does anyone know how to force texts to vertically align with the bottom
of the text frame?   
 
Thanks, 
Jess 

  Jessica Davis | Technical Writer
 Motor Vehicle Systems  Services
 3M Company, 28100 Cabot Dr | Novi, MI 48377
 Office: 248 374 9652
 jddav...@mmm.com | www.3M.com

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Vertical Alignment Bottom

[David Artman]

A couple of hacky ideas (I'm also copying others' ideas, to centralize
them):

1) Run-in para (2 pit, -2pt space below) followed by a "push-down" para
with Space Above Pgf equal to line height minus text frame height.
1a) Additional "push-down" paras to accommodate two, three, and more
lines of text (fiddly).

2) Single-cell table the size of the text frame, containing a para with
Cell Vertical Alignment "Bottom".

3) Anchored Frame placed [wherever] with Anchoring Position set to "At
Bottom of Column", shrinkwrapped around a text frame with [whatever]
para(s). Use the size and position of the text frame in the anchored
frame, to control para(s)'s positioning relative to the main text frame.
Set object properties to run around square.

4) Redesign the master pages with two Flows: one for the top-of-page
contents and one for the bottom-of-page contents.

5) Typeset the bottom-of-page contents as footnotes without footnoting
symbols (or with invisible-color symbols).

Hell... maybe more ways, but one of those should cover you.
David

 Original Message ----
Subject: Vertical Alignment Bottom
From: jddav...@mmm.com
Date: Mon, February 11, 2013 2:55 pm
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com

I'm hoping this email hits the list.  My last few email have not. 

Does anyone know how to force texts to vertically align with the bottom
of the text frame?   

Thanks, 
Jess 

  Jessica Davis | Technical Writer
 Motor Vehicle Systems & Services
 3M Company, 28100 Cabot Dr | Novi, MI 48377
 Office: 248 374 9652
 jddavis2 at mmm.com | www.3M.com

Vertical Alignment Bottom

[Craig Ede]

From: Craig Ede [mailto:craig...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Tuesday, February 12, 2013 5:54 PM
To: 'Rick Quatro'
Subject: RE: Vertical Alignment Bottom



I suppose you could set the space above for your paragraph tag to something
that would push the text to the bottom of the text frame. Framemaker ignores
this setting for the first para on a page, so you'd have to pair your
special paratag with another tag above it. Also, this would only work for a
single line as the text would go to the next page if it wrapped. But you
could design a sequence of "blank" tags with various spacing setting to go
above to allow 2, 3 or more lines. Too much work really.



Best to just put your text in an invisible cell that fills the frame and set
the text to align with the bottom of the cell.



Craig 





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mmm.com
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 2:55 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Vertical Alignment Bottom



I'm hoping this email hits the list.  My last few email have not. 

Does anyone know how to force texts to vertically align with the bottom of
the text frame?   

Thanks, 
Jess 



Jessica Davis | Technical Writer
Motor Vehicle Systems & Services
3M Company, 28100 Cabot Dr | Novi, MI 48377
Office: 248 374 9652
 <mailto:gaakins at mmm.com> jddavis2 at mmm.com |  <http://www.3m.com/>
www.3M.com

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RE: Vertical Alignment Bottom

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Jess,

 

FrameMaker doesn't have this feature. You can change vertical alignment in
table cells but not text frames.

 

Rick

 

Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-283-5045

r...@frameexpert.com

 

 

 

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Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 2:55 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Vertical Alignment Bottom

 

I'm hoping this email hits the list.  My last few email have not. 

Does anyone know how to force texts to vertically align with the bottom of
the text frame?   

Thanks, 
Jess 



Jessica Davis | Technical Writer
Motor Vehicle Systems  Services
3M Company, 28100 Cabot Dr | Novi, MI 48377
Office: 248 374 9652
 mailto:gaak...@mmm.com jddav...@mmm.com |  http://www.3m.com/
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Vertical Alignment Bottom

[jddav...@mmm.com]

I'm hoping this email hits the list.  My last few email have not.

Does anyone know how to force texts to vertically align with the bottom of 
the text frame? 

Thanks,
Jess


Jessica Davis | Technical Writer
Motor Vehicle Systems & Services
3M Company, 28100 Cabot Dr | Novi, MI 48377
Office: 248 374 9652
jddavis2 at mmm.com | www.3M.com
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Vertical Alignment Bottom

[Rick Quatro]

Hi Jess,



FrameMaker doesn't have this feature. You can change vertical alignment in
table cells but not text frames.



Rick



Rick Quatro

Carmen Publishing Inc.

585-283-5045

rick at frameexpert.com







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mmm.com
Sent: Monday, February 11, 2013 2:55 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Vertical Alignment Bottom



I'm hoping this email hits the list.  My last few email have not. 

Does anyone know how to force texts to vertically align with the bottom of
the text frame?   

Thanks, 
Jess 



Jessica Davis | Technical Writer
Motor Vehicle Systems & Services
3M Company, 28100 Cabot Dr | Novi, MI 48377
Office: 248 374 9652
 <mailto:gaakins at mmm.com> jddavis2 at mmm.com |  <http://www.3m.com/>
www.3M.com

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