RE: What is the recommended way of having a TOC appear in multiple places of a book?

2013-03-19 Thread john . x . posada
Making it a text insert seems to have worked fine, including the TOC
hyperlinks in each copy of the TOC.


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John Posada wrote
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> I have a 1,500+ FM11 book that is divided into two volumes. The book has
a TOC
> and Index with both volumes. Both Volume 1 and 2 have covers and the
pagination
> starts at 1 for each volume. Everything good. It's also conceivable that
I'll eventually
> have Volumes 3, 4, 5, and 6.
>
> Now, I want to put the same TOC in the front of both Volumes and the
Index at the
> end of both volume.. What is the suggested approach?


Are both volumes in a single .book file? Or do you have separate .books for
each volume?

If it's one book:
1. create the TOC and place it in Volume 1.
2. create an empty file where the TOC for volume 2 should go.
3. In this empty file, place the Volume 1 TOC as a text inset.

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What is the recommended way of having a TOC appear in multiple places of a book?

2013-03-18 Thread john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com
Making it a text insert seems to have worked fine, including the TOC
hyperlinks in each copy of the TOC.


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John Posada wrote
>
> I have a 1,500+ FM11 book that is divided into two volumes. The book has
a TOC
> and Index with both volumes. Both Volume 1 and 2 have covers and the
pagination
> starts at 1 for each volume. Everything good. It's also conceivable that
I'll eventually
> have Volumes 3, 4, 5, and 6.
>
> Now, I want to put the same TOC in the front of both Volumes and the
Index at the
> end of both volume.. What is the suggested approach?


Are both volumes in a single .book file? Or do you have separate .books for
each volume?

If it's one book:
1. create the TOC and place it in Volume 1.
2. create an empty file where the TOC for volume 2 should go.
3. In this empty file, place the Volume 1 TOC as a text inset.

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RE: What is the recommended way of having a TOC appear in multiple places of a book?

2013-03-18 Thread David Artman
In Structured FrameMaker:

* Put all the files in one "super book"
* Set the Pagination and Numbering settings, particularly the Volume
settings
* Generate a single TOC and Index for the super book
* Place TOC and Index in both sub-books
* Print to PDF
* Split into separate PDFs in Acrobat

You'll probably want to money with the Index specification, as
multi-book indexing references can be... trying.

This will work in any version of FrameMaker that supports Volume naming
and numbering (7.0+, IIRC).

The Structured method is totally different (and I only know IBMIDDOC's
method, not DITA/FM-XML).

HTH;
David

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Subject: What is the recommended way of having a TOC appear in multiple
places of a book?
From: john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com
Date: Thu, March 14, 2013 3:53 pm
To: "framers@lists.frameusers.com" 

Hi, guys...

I have a 1,500+ FM11 book that is divided into two volumes. The book has
a
TOC and Index with both volumes. Both Volume 1 and 2 have covers and the
pagination starts at 1 for each volume. Everything good. It's also
conceivable that I'll eventually have Volumes 3, 4, 5, and 6.

Now, I want to put the same TOC in the front of both Volumes and the
Index
at the end of both volume.. What is the suggested approach?

Thanks

John Posada
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Re: What is the recommended way of having a TOC appear in multiple places of a book?

2013-03-18 Thread Robert Lauriston
You could have a third book including all non-generated files from
both books and incorporate its TOC and index by reference in the two
real books.

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:53 PM,   wrote:
> Hi, guys...
>
> I have a 1,500+ FM11 book that is divided into two volumes. The book has a
> TOC and Index with both volumes. Both Volume 1 and 2 have covers and the
> pagination starts at 1 for each volume. Everything good. It's also
> conceivable that I'll eventually have Volumes 3, 4, 5, and 6.
>
> Now, I want to put the same TOC in the front of both Volumes and the Index
> at the end of both volume.. What is the suggested approach?
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RE: What is the recommended way of having a TOC appear in multiple places of a book?

2013-03-18 Thread Harro de Jong
John Posada wrote
> 
> I have a 1,500+ FM11 book that is divided into two volumes. The book has a TOC
> and Index with both volumes. Both Volume 1 and 2 have covers and the 
> pagination
> starts at 1 for each volume. Everything good. It's also conceivable that I'll 
> eventually
> have Volumes 3, 4, 5, and 6.
> 
> Now, I want to put the same TOC in the front of both Volumes and the Index at 
> the
> end of both volume.. What is the suggested approach?


Are both volumes in a single .book file? Or do you have separate .books for 
each volume? 

If it's one book: 
1. create the TOC and place it in Volume 1.
2. create an empty file where the TOC for volume 2 should go.
3. In this empty file, place the Volume 1 TOC as a text inset. 

If it's two books:
1. create a third book that contains both volumes. Make sure the page numbering 
settings are consistent with your volumes.. 
2. add a TOC to this book and generate it.
3. take this TOC and add it to both volumes as an ordinary (non-generated) FM 
file. 

In both cases, you may have to update the book multiple times until all the 
page numbers are correct. 


Harro de Jong
Triview


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What is the recommended way of having a TOC appear in multiple places of a book?

2013-03-18 Thread David Artman
In Structured FrameMaker:

* Put all the files in one "super book"
* Set the Pagination and Numbering settings, particularly the Volume
settings
* Generate a single TOC and Index for the super book
* Place TOC and Index in both sub-books
* Print to PDF
* Split into separate PDFs in Acrobat

You'll probably want to money with the Index specification, as
multi-book indexing references can be... trying.

This will work in any version of FrameMaker that supports Volume naming
and numbering (7.0+, IIRC).

The Structured method is totally different (and I only know IBMIDDOC's
method, not DITA/FM-XML).

HTH;
David

 Original Message --------
Subject: What is the recommended way of having a TOC appear in multiple
places of a book?
From: john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com
Date: Thu, March 14, 2013 3:53 pm
To: "framers at lists.frameusers.com" 

Hi, guys...

I have a 1,500+ FM11 book that is divided into two volumes. The book has
a
TOC and Index with both volumes. Both Volume 1 and 2 have covers and the
pagination starts at 1 for each volume. Everything good. It's also
conceivable that I'll eventually have Volumes 3, 4, 5, and 6.

Now, I want to put the same TOC in the front of both Volumes and the
Index
at the end of both volume.. What is the suggested approach?

Thanks

John Posada


What is the recommended way of having a TOC appear in multiple places of a book?

2013-03-18 Thread Harro de Jong
John Posada wrote
> 
> I have a 1,500+ FM11 book that is divided into two volumes. The book has a TOC
> and Index with both volumes. Both Volume 1 and 2 have covers and the 
> pagination
> starts at 1 for each volume. Everything good. It's also conceivable that I'll 
> eventually
> have Volumes 3, 4, 5, and 6.
> 
> Now, I want to put the same TOC in the front of both Volumes and the Index at 
> the
> end of both volume.. What is the suggested approach?


Are both volumes in a single .book file? Or do you have separate .books for 
each volume? 

If it's one book: 
1. create the TOC and place it in Volume 1.
2. create an empty file where the TOC for volume 2 should go.
3. In this empty file, place the Volume 1 TOC as a text inset. 

If it's two books:
1. create a third book that contains both volumes. Make sure the page numbering 
settings are consistent with your volumes.. 
2. add a TOC to this book and generate it.
3. take this TOC and add it to both volumes as an ordinary (non-generated) FM 
file. 

In both cases, you may have to update the book multiple times until all the 
page numbers are correct. 


Harro de Jong
Triview




What is the recommended way of having a TOC appear in multiple places of a book?

2013-03-18 Thread Robert Lauriston
You could have a third book including all non-generated files from
both books and incorporate its TOC and index by reference in the two
real books.

On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:53 PM,   wrote:
> Hi, guys...
>
> I have a 1,500+ FM11 book that is divided into two volumes. The book has a
> TOC and Index with both volumes. Both Volume 1 and 2 have covers and the
> pagination starts at 1 for each volume. Everything good. It's also
> conceivable that I'll eventually have Volumes 3, 4, 5, and 6.
>
> Now, I want to put the same TOC in the front of both Volumes and the Index
> at the end of both volume.. What is the suggested approach?


What is the recommended way of having a TOC appear in multiple places of a book?

2013-03-15 Thread john . x . posada
Hi, guys...

I have a 1,500+ FM11 book that is divided into two volumes. The book has a
TOC and Index with both volumes. Both Volume 1 and 2 have covers and the
pagination starts at 1 for each volume. Everything good. It's also
conceivable that I'll eventually have Volumes 3, 4, 5, and 6.

Now, I want to put the same TOC in the front of both Volumes and the Index
at the end of both volume.. What is the suggested approach?

Thanks

John Posada

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What is the recommended way of having a TOC appear in multiple places of a book?

2013-03-14 Thread john.x.pos...@us.hsbc.com
Hi, guys...

I have a 1,500+ FM11 book that is divided into two volumes. The book has a
TOC and Index with both volumes. Both Volume 1 and 2 have covers and the
pagination starts at 1 for each volume. Everything good. It's also
conceivable that I'll eventually have Volumes 3, 4, 5, and 6.

Now, I want to put the same TOC in the front of both Volumes and the Index
at the end of both volume.. What is the suggested approach?

Thanks

John Posada

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