Re: problems creating pdf files from FM11

2013-08-26 Thread Matt Sullivan
Hi Ken, since you asked…If you're using your Fm source to create EPUB, spaces and assorted odd characters in files, directories, graphics and (spot) cross-reference markers will prevent the EPUB from validating.I'm now in the habit of using only alphanumeric names for files, directories, and markers.
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On Aug 25, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Ken Poshedly poshe...@bellsouth.net wrote:I recall in years past that a pop-up would occur if an "illegal" character was used in a filename, but I never see that anymore. At least now we know not use commas in a FrameMaker filename. Aare there any other such characters I should know about?___


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problems creating pdf files from FM11

2013-08-26 Thread Matt Sullivan
Hi Ken, since you asked?

If you're using your Fm source to create EPUB, spaces and assorted odd 
characters in files, directories, graphics and (spot) cross-reference markers 
will prevent the EPUB from validating.

I'm now in the habit of using only alphanumeric names for files, directories, 
and markers. 

-Matt

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co-author Publishing Fundamentals: Unstructured FrameMaker 11 
P: 714.798.7596 | C: 714.585.2335 | matt at mattrsullivan.com 

@mattrsullivan LinkedIn facebook mattrsullivan.com 

On Aug 25, 2013, at 8:48 AM, Ken Poshedly  wrote:

> I recall in years past that a pop-up would occur if an "illegal" character 
> was used in a filename, but I never see that anymore. At least now we know 
> not use commas in a FrameMaker filename. Aare there any other such characters 
> I should know about? 

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problems creating pdf files from FM11

2013-08-25 Thread Ken Poshedly
The subject line says just what it is.

Background:
* I'm on a Windows XP terminal with FM8 and Adobe Acrobat 9 
Professional.
* The other three writers are on Windows 7 terminals with FM11 and 
Adobe Acrobat 10 Professional.
* We create pdf files by printing to the Adobe printer to get a ps 
(postscript) file, then running that through Distiller.

All worked OK through Wednesday, but not today (Thursday).
While I _can_ continue to successfully create pdf files as described, at least 
two of the other three guys can't.

What we've done:
* Saved a sample file down to mif version 7 onto our network drive for 
me to open in FM8.
* I open the sample file in FM8 but still can't create a ps file 
(always 0 kb file size results) from that sample file.
* This is true whether I try it straight from the mif file or save it 
as an FM8 file and then try it.
Nobody had consciously changed anything on their terminals over the course of 
Wednesday to cause this today.

And yes, I've made sure that the Rely on system fonts only checkbox is 
UNchecked when they and I try to create a ps file using the sample FM11 file.

My suggested fix is for the three to remain on Windows 7 but reinstall FM8 
since we here only output pdf files for hardcopy distribution anyway. That's a 
losing battle, however, even though it would increase our productivity 
immensely -- at least in the short term.


Help please.

-- Ken in Atlanta







 From: Shmuel Wolfson shmue...@gmail.com
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 3:38 AM
Subject: Re: OT:  Font suggestions for book?
 


We use Arial for headings and Century Schoolbook for the paragraph text. 
Generally san-serif fonts are better for onscreen reading and serif fonts are 
better for print. Century Schoolbook is a serif font that is similar to Times 
New Roman but less compressed. It's very comfortable for onscreen reading and 
when printed. 

Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133 
On 19-Aug-13 2:04 AM, Scott Turner wrote:

I have a fondness for Minion or Garamond. I think you can find a free font 
that is similar to these. However, the cost is relatively small, so purchase 
should be considered.


The advantage if Minion and Garamond is that they both have a relatively low 
height to width ratio, making them very readable. If you opt for a free font, 
look for that. Avoid Times, it's narrow, designed for newspaper columns.

On Aug 15, 2013, at 17:22, VLM TechSubs 
techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org wrote:


 
Greetings everyone,
 
I’m working in FM 8, Win 7 x64 on a book that will be published this Fall. 
I’ve now been asked to do the book design, in addition to most of the 
writing and basic template design. The subject matter is primarily financial 
… it’s a book about the history of taxation. It’s not a scholarly work at 
all, but rather one designed to “wake up” American teens and young adults to 
some of the issues involved. Footnotes are used here and there, but more for 
explanation of background/details than in a traditional sense as references. 
The book will be published in a standard 6x9 format, paperback. 
 
All that having been said … What are people’s favorite or recommended fonts 
for such a project. And since this is being published on a shoestring budget 
with a nonprofit/educational bent, suggestions of free fonts would be most 
welcome. 
 
Well, thanks in advance!
 
Best regards,
Elchanan
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Re: problems creating pdf files from FM11

2013-08-25 Thread Art Campbell
First the two-step process you're doing is unnecessary and may
contribute to the problem Instead, try printing to the Acrobat printer
and in the FM Print dialog box, check Generate Acrobat data but UNCHECK
Print to file. Distiller will automatically generate the PS file, distill,
and delete it.

Second... are automatic updates turned on? It's possible some Adobe files
either in FM or in Acrobat changed. In any case, check manually to confirm
that both applications are fully patched.

Third, some trouble shooting -- Can y'all create PDFs from other
applications, such as Word, using the Acrobat printer instance? Are you
getting any error messages during PDF creation?

Art Campbell
  art.campb...@gmail.com
  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and
a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358

I support www.TheGrotonLine.com, hyperlocal news for Groton MA.


On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Ken Poshedly poshe...@bellsouth.netwrote:

 The subject line says just what it is.

 Background:

- I'm on a Windows XP terminal with FM8 and Adobe Acrobat 9
Professional.
- The other three writers are on Windows 7 terminals with FM11 and
Adobe Acrobat 10 Professional.
- We create pdf files by printing to the Adobe printer to get a ps
(postscript) file, then running that through Distiller.


 All worked OK through Wednesday, but not today (Thursday).
 While I _can_ continue to successfully create pdf files as described, at
 least two of the other three guys can't.

 What we've done:

- Saved a sample file down to mif version 7 onto our network drive for
me to open in FM8.
- I open the sample file in FM8 but still can't create a ps file
(always 0 kb file size results) from that sample file.
- This is true whether I try it straight from the mif file or save it
as an FM8 file and then try it.

 Nobody had consciously changed anything on their terminals over the course
 of Wednesday to cause this today.

 And yes, I've made sure that the Rely on system fonts only checkbox is
 UNchecked when they and I try to create a ps file using the sample FM11
 file.

 My suggested fix is for the three to remain on Windows 7 but reinstall FM8
 since we here only output pdf files for hardcopy distribution anyway.
 That's a losing battle, however, even though it would increase our
 productivity immensely -- at least in the short term.

 Help please.

 -- Ken in Atlanta



   --
  *From:* Shmuel Wolfson shmue...@gmail.com
 *To:* framers@lists.frameusers.com
 *Sent:* Monday, August 19, 2013 3:38 AM
 *Subject:* Re: OT: Font suggestions for book?

  We use Arial for headings and Century Schoolbook for the paragraph text.
 Generally san-serif fonts are better for onscreen reading and serif fonts
 are better for print. Century Schoolbook is a serif font that is similar to
 Times New Roman but less compressed. It's very comfortable for onscreen
 reading and when printed.

 Regards,
 Shmuel Wolfson
 Technical Writer
 052-763-7133

 On 19-Aug-13 2:04 AM, Scott Turner wrote:

 I have a fondness for Minion or Garamond. I think you can find a free font
 that is similar to these. However, the cost is relatively small, so
 purchase should be considered.

  The advantage if Minion and Garamond is that they both have a relatively
 low height to width ratio, making them very readable. If you opt for a free
 font, look for that. Avoid Times, it's narrow, designed for newspaper
 columns.

 On Aug 15, 2013, at 17:22, VLM TechSubs 
 techs...@vibrantlivingministries.org wrote:

   Greetings everyone,

 I’m working in FM 8, Win 7 x64 on a book that will be published this Fall.
 I’ve now been asked to do the book design, in addition to most of the
 writing and basic template design. The subject matter is primarily
 financial … it’s a book about the history of taxation. It’s not a scholarly
 work at all, but rather one designed to “wake up” American teens and young
 adults to some of the issues involved. Footnotes are used here and there,
 but more for explanation of background/details than in a traditional sense
 as references. The book will be published in a standard 6x9 format,
 paperback.

 All that having been said … What are people’s favorite or recommended
 fonts for such a project. And since this is being published on a shoestring
 budget with a nonprofit/educational bent, suggestions of free fonts would
 be most welcome.

 Well, thanks in advance!

 Best regards,
 Elchanan

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RE: problems creating pdf files from FM11

2013-08-25 Thread Jack DeLand
Interestingly, I had similar problems with FM 10 last night but not today. It 
is fully patched and running on Windows 7 Ultimate (also up to date), 3.2 GHz 
machine, 12 GB RAM, 1 terabyte of free space. I changed nothing, but got the 
message saying that an appropriate printer could not be found.  Today, it’s 
working, and all I did was to reboot.

 

Stumped in Ypsilanti. 

 

Jack DeLand, CSM | 734 972 3026 (cell) | jack.deland (skype) | 
www.linkedin.com/in/jackdeland

 

From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 11:14 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: problems creating pdf files from FM11

 

The subject line says just what it is.

 

Background:

*   I'm on a Windows XP terminal with FM8 and Adobe Acrobat 9 Professional.
*   The other three writers are on Windows 7 terminals with FM11 and Adobe 
Acrobat 10 Professional.
*   We create pdf files by printing to the Adobe printer to get a ps 
(postscript) file, then running that through Distiller.

 

All worked OK through Wednesday, but not today (Thursday).

While I _can_ continue to successfully create pdf files as described, at least 
two of the other three guys can't.

 

What we've done:

*   Saved a sample file down to mif version 7 onto our network drive for me 
to open in FM8.
*   I open the sample file in FM8 but still can't create a ps file (always 
0 kb file size results) from that sample file.
*   This is true whether I try it straight from the mif file or save it as 
an FM8 file and then try it.

Nobody had consciously changed anything on their terminals over the course of 
Wednesday to cause this today.

 

And yes, I've made sure that the Rely on system fonts only checkbox is 
UNchecked when they and I try to create a ps file using the sample FM11 file.

 

My suggested fix is for the three to remain on Windows 7 but reinstall FM8 
since we here only output pdf files for hardcopy distribution anyway. That's a 
losing battle, however, even though it would increase our productivity 
immensely -- at least in the short term.

 

Help please.

 

-- Ken in Atlanta

 

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Re: problems creating pdf files from FM11

2013-08-25 Thread Ken Poshedly
To Art, Jack and all others,

First, many thanks for the suggestions, but as it turned out, it was the 
smallest thing that tripped us up -- an illegal character in the FrameMaker 
filename.

In this case, the guy who created the files -- and has worked with FM for some 
years -- included a comma in his filename. Our filenames include the projected 
date-of-release of a manual. Thus, the filenames are (section name) (product 
name) (manual type) (date).fm

In this case, Introduction - SRC885 - SOM - August 21, 2013.fm (For those 
interested, it's the Introduction section of a Safety, Operation  Maintenance 
Manual for an 85-metric ton lifting capacity rough terrain crane to be 
released on August 21, 2013.)


I also sent this Introduction section file to my own FrameMaker guru, Tim 
Murray, here in 
Atlanta. He got back to me almost immediately that the file prints to 
postscript and then distills to pdf beautifully with the comma deleted from the 
filename.

However, I recall in years past that a pop-up would occur if an illegal 
character was used in a filename, but I never see that anymore. At least now we 
know not use commas in a FrameMaker filename. Aare there any other such 
characters I should know about? (Mine is a Windows XP platform with FrameMaker 
8 and we have 3 Windows 7 platforms with FrameMaker 11).

Second, I sent this e-mail asking for help on Wednesday, August 21, but it 
didn't appear at all until today, Sunday, August 25. And this has occurred in 
the past as well.

With not seeing my message here on Wednesday, I posted it to techwr-L the same 
day and got suggestions the same day.

I guess that if things don't change, I'll simply lurk here but depend on 
techwr-L for immediate (or at least same-day) results.

As for Tim, he does great FM and other software contract tech writing and has 
been a wealth of support to me. His website is just great as well; it's at 
http://www.techknowledgecorp.com/ 


Give him a try, you won't be sorry.

-- Ken in Atlanta






 From: Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com
To: Ken Poshedly poshe...@bellsouth.net 
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com framers@lists.frameusers.com 
Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 10:22 AM
Subject: Re: problems creating pdf files from FM11
 


First the two-step process you're doing is unnecessary and may contribute 
to the problem Instead, try printing to the Acrobat printer and in the FM 
Print dialog box, check Generate Acrobat data but UNCHECK Print to file. 
Distiller will automatically generate the PS file, distill, and delete it.


Second... are automatic updates turned on? It's possible some Adobe files 
either in FM or in Acrobat changed. In any case, check manually to confirm 
that both applications are fully patched. 


Third, some trouble shooting -- Can y'all create PDFs from other applications, 
such as Word, using the Acrobat printer instance? Are you getting any error 
messages during PDF creation? 


Art Campbell                                                                   
       art.campb...@gmail.com
  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a 
redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
                                                      No disclaimers apply.
                                                               DoD 358

I support www.TheGrotonLine.com, hyperlocal news for Groton MA.


On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Ken Poshedly poshe...@bellsouth.net wrote:

The subject line says just what it is.


Background:
  * I'm on a Windows XP terminal with FM8 and Adobe Acrobat 9 
 Professional.
  * The other three writers are on Windows 7 terminals with FM11 and 
 Adobe Acrobat 10 Professional.
  * We create pdf files by printing to the Adobe printer to get a ps 
 (postscript) file, then running that through Distiller.


All worked OK through Wednesday, but not today (Thursday).
While I _can_ continue to successfully create pdf files as described, at 
least two of the other three guys can't.


What we've done:
  * Saved a sample file down to mif version 7 onto our network drive for 
 me to open in FM8.
  * I open the sample file in FM8 but still can't create a ps file 
 (always 0 kb file size results) from that sample file.
  * This is true whether I try it straight from the mif file or save it 
 as an FM8 file and then try it.
Nobody had consciously changed anything on their terminals over the course of 
Wednesday to cause this today.


And yes, I've made sure that the Rely on system fonts only checkbox is 
UNchecked when they and I try to create a ps file using the sample FM11 file.


My suggested fix is for the three to remain on Windows 7 but reinstall FM8 
since we here only output pdf files for hardcopy distribution anyway. That's 
a losing battle, however, even though it would increase our productivity 
immensely -- at least in the short term.



Help please.


-- Ken in Atlanta

problems creating pdf files from FM11

2013-08-25 Thread Art Campbell
First the two-step process you're doing is unnecessary and may
contribute to the problem Instead, try printing to the Acrobat printer
and in the FM Print dialog box, check Generate Acrobat data but UNCHECK
Print to file. Distiller will automatically generate the PS file, distill,
and delete it.

Second... are automatic updates turned on? It's possible some Adobe files
either in FM or in Acrobat changed. In any case, check manually to confirm
that both applications are fully patched.

Third, some trouble shooting -- Can y'all create PDFs from other
applications, such as Word, using the Acrobat printer instance? Are you
getting any error messages during PDF creation?

Art Campbell
  art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and
a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358

I support www.TheGrotonLine.com, hyperlocal news for Groton MA.


On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Ken Poshedly wrote:

> The subject line says just what it is.
>
> Background:
>
>- I'm on a Windows XP terminal with FM8 and Adobe Acrobat 9
>Professional.
>- The other three writers are on Windows 7 terminals with FM11 and
>Adobe Acrobat 10 Professional.
>- We create pdf files by printing to the Adobe "printer" to get a ps
>(postscript) file, then running that through Distiller.
>
>
> All worked OK through Wednesday, but not today (Thursday).
> While I _can_ continue to successfully create pdf files as described, at
> least two of the other three guys can't.
>
> What we've done:
>
>- Saved a sample file down to mif version 7 onto our network drive for
>me to open in FM8.
>- I open the sample file in FM8 but still can't create a ps file
>(always "0 kb" file size results) from that sample file.
>- This is true whether I try it straight from the mif file or save it
>as an FM8 file and then try it.
>
> Nobody had consciously changed anything on their terminals over the course
> of Wednesday to cause this today.
>
> And yes, I've made sure that the "Rely on system fonts only" checkbox is
> UNchecked when they and I try to create a ps file using the sample FM11
> file.
>
> My suggested fix is for the three to remain on Windows 7 but reinstall FM8
> since we here only output pdf files for hardcopy distribution anyway.
> That's a losing battle, however, even though it would increase our
> productivity immensely -- at least in the short term.
>
> Help please.
>
> -- Ken in Atlanta
>
>
>
>   --
>  *From:* Shmuel Wolfson 
> *To:* framers at lists.frameusers.com
> *Sent:* Monday, August 19, 2013 3:38 AM
> *Subject:* Re: OT: Font suggestions for book?
>
>  We use Arial for headings and Century Schoolbook for the paragraph text.
> Generally san-serif fonts are better for onscreen reading and serif fonts
> are better for print. Century Schoolbook is a serif font that is similar to
> Times New Roman but less compressed. It's very comfortable for onscreen
> reading and when printed.
>
> Regards,
> Shmuel Wolfson
> Technical Writer
> 052-763-7133
>
> On 19-Aug-13 2:04 AM, Scott Turner wrote:
>
> I have a fondness for Minion or Garamond. I think you can find a free font
> that is similar to these. However, the cost is relatively small, so
> purchase should be considered.
>
>  The advantage if Minion and Garamond is that they both have a relatively
> low height to width ratio, making them very readable. If you opt for a free
> font, look for that. Avoid Times, it's narrow, designed for newspaper
> columns.
>
> On Aug 15, 2013, at 17:22, "VLM TechSubs" <
> TechSubs at VibrantLivingMinistries.org> wrote:
>
>   Greetings everyone,
>
> I?m working in FM 8, Win 7 x64 on a book that will be published this Fall.
> I?ve now been asked to do the book design, in addition to most of the
> writing and basic template design. The subject matter is primarily
> financial ? it?s a book about the history of taxation. It?s not a scholarly
> work at all, but rather one designed to ?wake up? American teens and young
> adults to some of the issues involved. Footnotes are used here and there,
> but more for explanation of background/details than in a traditional sense
> as references. The book will be published in a standard 6x9 format,
> paperback.
>
> All that having been said ? What are people?s favorite or recommended
> fonts for such a project. And since this is being published on a shoestring
> budget with a nonprofit/educational bent, suggestions of free fonts would
> be most welcome.
>
> Well, thanks in advance!
>
> Best regards,
> Elchanan
>
>  ___
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problems creating pdf files from FM11

2013-08-25 Thread Jack DeLand
Interestingly, I had similar problems with FM 10 last night but not today. It 
is fully patched and running on Windows 7 Ultimate (also up to date), 3.2 GHz 
machine, 12 GB RAM, 1 terabyte of free space. I changed nothing, but got the 
message saying that an appropriate printer could not be found.  Today, it?s 
working, and all I did was to reboot.



Stumped in Ypsilanti. 



Jack DeLand, CSM | 734 972 3026 (cell) | jack.deland (skype) | 
www.linkedin.com/in/jackdeland



From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com 
[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Ken Poshedly
Sent: Wednesday, August 21, 2013 11:14 AM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: problems creating pdf files from FM11



The subject line says just what it is.



Background:

*   I'm on a Windows XP terminal with FM8 and Adobe Acrobat 9 Professional.
*   The other three writers are on Windows 7 terminals with FM11 and Adobe 
Acrobat 10 Professional.
*   We create pdf files by printing to the Adobe "printer" to get a ps 
(postscript) file, then running that through Distiller.



All worked OK through Wednesday, but not today (Thursday).

While I _can_ continue to successfully create pdf files as described, at least 
two of the other three guys can't.



What we've done:

*   Saved a sample file down to mif version 7 onto our network drive for me 
to open in FM8.
*   I open the sample file in FM8 but still can't create a ps file (always 
"0 kb" file size results) from that sample file.
*   This is true whether I try it straight from the mif file or save it as 
an FM8 file and then try it.

Nobody had consciously changed anything on their terminals over the course of 
Wednesday to cause this today.



And yes, I've made sure that the "Rely on system fonts only" checkbox is 
UNchecked when they and I try to create a ps file using the sample FM11 file.



My suggested fix is for the three to remain on Windows 7 but reinstall FM8 
since we here only output pdf files for hardcopy distribution anyway. That's a 
losing battle, however, even though it would increase our productivity 
immensely -- at least in the short term.



Help please.



-- Ken in Atlanta



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problems creating pdf files from FM11

2013-08-25 Thread Art Campbell
Ken,

A comma has never been a legal character in a Windows file name, AFAIK. Nor
UNIX or Linux MS kind of says it's legal in a long file name, but
whether FM tripped on it or Windows did is kind of irrelevant...

See
http://msdn.microsoft.com/en-us/library/windows/desktop/aa368590(v=vs.85).aspx
for
more info.

My $0.02 would be to use the strictest file naming convention, UNIX or
Linux, because you never know when your files may end up in HTML, even if
you're not doing that currently. Much easier to be tighter on file names
from the beginning than have to rename them later...

Art Campbell
  art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and
a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358

I support www.TheGrotonLine.com, hyperlocal news for Groton MA.


On Sun, Aug 25, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Ken Poshedly wrote:

> To Art, Jack and all others,
>
> First, many thanks for the suggestions, but as it turned out, it was the
> smallest thing that tripped us up -- an "illegal" character in the
> FrameMaker filename.
>
> In this case, the guy who created the files -- and has worked with FM for
> some years -- included a comma in his filename. Our filenames include the
> projected date-of-release of a manual. Thus, the filenames are (section
> name) (product name) (manual type) (date).fm
>
> In this case, Introduction - SRC885 - SOM - August 21, 2013.fm (For those
> interested, it's the Introduction section of a "Safety, Operation &
> Maintenance Manual" for an 85-metric ton lifting capacity rough terrain
> crane to be released on August 21, 2013.)
>
> I also sent this Introduction section file to my own FrameMaker guru, Tim
> Murray, here in Atlanta. He got back to me almost immediately that the file
> prints to postscript and then distills to pdf beautifully with the comma
> deleted from the filename.
>
> However, I recall in years past that a pop-up would occur if an "illegal"
> character was used in a filename, but I never see that anymore. At least
> now we know not use commas in a FrameMaker filename. Aare there any other
> such characters I should know about? (Mine is a Windows XP platform with
> FrameMaker 8 and we have 3 Windows 7 platforms with FrameMaker 11).
>
> Second, I sent this e-mail asking for help on Wednesday, August 21, but it
> didn't appear at all until today, Sunday, August 25. And this has occurred
> in the past as well.
>
> With not seeing my message here on Wednesday, I posted it to techwr-L the
> same day and got suggestions the same day.
>
> I guess that if things don't change, I'll simply lurk here but depend on
> techwr-L for immediate (or at least same-day) results.
>
> As for Tim, he does great FM and other software contract tech writing and
> has been a wealth of support to me. His website is just great as well; it's
> at http://www.techknowledgecorp.com/
>
> Give him a try, you won't be sorry.
>
> -- Ken in Atlanta
>
>
>   ----------
>  *From:* Art Campbell 
> *To:* Ken Poshedly 
> *Cc:* "framers at lists.frameusers.com" 
> *Sent:* Sunday, August 25, 2013 10:22 AM
> *Subject:* Re: problems creating pdf files from FM11
>
> First the two-step process you're doing is unnecessary and may
> contribute to the problem Instead, try printing to the Acrobat printer
> and in the FM Print dialog box, check Generate Acrobat data but UNCHECK
> Print to file. Distiller will automatically generate the PS file, distill,
> and delete it.
>
> Second... are automatic updates turned on? It's possible some Adobe files
> either in FM or in Acrobat changed. In any case, check manually to confirm
> that both applications are fully patched.
>
> Third, some trouble shooting -- Can y'all create PDFs from other
> applications, such as Word, using the Acrobat printer instance? Are you
> getting any error messages during PDF creation?
>
> Art Campbell
> art.campbell at gmail.com
>   "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent
> and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>   No disclaimers apply.
>DoD 358
>
> I support www.TheGrotonLine.com <http://www.thegrotonline.com/>,
> hyperlocal news for Groton MA.
>
>
> On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Ken Poshedly  bellsouth.net>wrote:
>
> The subject line says just what it is.
>
> Background:
>
>- I'm on a Windows XP terminal with FM8 and Adobe Acrobat 9
>Profes

problems creating pdf files from FM11

2013-08-25 Thread Ken Poshedly
To Art, Jack and all others,

First, many thanks for the suggestions, but as it turned out, it was the 
smallest thing that tripped us up -- an "illegal" character in the FrameMaker 
filename.

In this case, the guy who created the files -- and has worked with FM for some 
years -- included a comma in his filename. Our filenames include the projected 
date-of-release of a manual. Thus, the filenames are (section name) (product 
name) (manual type) (date).fm

In this case, Introduction - SRC885 - SOM - August 21, 2013.fm (For those 
interested, it's the Introduction section of a "Safety, Operation & Maintenance 
Manual" for an 85-metric ton lifting capacity rough terrain crane to be 
released on August 21, 2013.)


I also sent this Introduction section file to my own FrameMaker guru, Tim 
Murray, here in 
Atlanta. He got back to me almost immediately that the file prints to 
postscript and then distills to pdf beautifully with the comma deleted from the 
filename.

However, I recall in years past that a pop-up would occur if an "illegal" 
character was used in a filename, but I never see that anymore. At least now we 
know not use commas in a FrameMaker filename. Aare there any other such 
characters I should know about? (Mine is a Windows XP platform with FrameMaker 
8 and we have 3 Windows 7 platforms with FrameMaker 11).

Second, I sent this e-mail asking for help on Wednesday, August 21, but it 
didn't appear at all until today, Sunday, August 25. And this has occurred in 
the past as well.

With not seeing my message here on Wednesday, I posted it to techwr-L the same 
day and got suggestions the same day.

I guess that if things don't change, I'll simply lurk here but depend on 
techwr-L for immediate (or at least same-day) results.

As for Tim, he does great FM and other software contract tech writing and has 
been a wealth of support to me. His website is just great as well; it's at 
http://www.techknowledgecorp.com/ 


Give him a try, you won't be sorry.

-- Ken in Atlanta





>
> From: Art Campbell 
>To: Ken Poshedly  
>Cc: "framers at lists.frameusers.com"  
>Sent: Sunday, August 25, 2013 10:22 AM
>Subject: Re: problems creating pdf files from FM11
> 
>
>
>First the two-step process you're doing is unnecessary and may contribute 
>to the problem Instead, try printing to the Acrobat printer and in the FM 
>Print dialog box, check Generate Acrobat data but UNCHECK Print to file. 
>Distiller will automatically generate the PS file, distill, and delete it.
>
>
>Second... are automatic updates turned on? It's possible some Adobe files 
>either in FM or in Acrobat changed. In any case, check manually to confirm 
>that both applications are fully patched.?
>
>
>Third, some trouble shooting -- Can y'all create PDFs from other applications, 
>such as Word, using the Acrobat printer instance? Are you getting any error 
>messages during PDF creation??
>
>
>Art Campbell? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? 
>? ? ? ? art.campbell at gmail.com
>? "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a 
>redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? No disclaimers apply.
>? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?? DoD 358
>
>I support www.TheGrotonLine.com, hyperlocal news for Groton MA.
>
>
>On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 11:13 AM, Ken Poshedly  
>wrote:
>
>The subject line says just what it is.
>>
>>
>>Background:
>>  * I'm on a Windows XP terminal with FM8 and Adobe Acrobat 9 
>> Professional.
>>  * The other three writers are on Windows 7 terminals with FM11 and 
>> Adobe Acrobat 10 Professional.
>>  * We create pdf files by printing to the Adobe "printer" to get a ps 
>> (postscript) file, then running that through Distiller.
>>
>>
>>All worked OK through Wednesday, but not today (Thursday).
>>While I _can_ continue to successfully create pdf files as described, at 
>>least two of the other three guys can't.
>>
>>
>>What we've done:
>>  * Saved a sample file down to mif version 7 onto our network drive for 
>> me to open in FM8.
>>  * I open the sample file in FM8 but still can't create a ps file 
>> (always "0 kb" file size results) from that sample file.
>>  * This is true whether I try it straight from the mif file or save it 
>> as an FM8 file and then try it.
>>Nobody had consciously changed anything on their terminals over the course of 
>>Wednesday to cause this today.
>>
>>
>>And yes, I've made sure that the "Rely on system fonts only" checkbox is 
>>UNchecke

problems creating pdf files from FM11

2013-08-21 Thread Ken Poshedly
The subject line says just what it is.

Background:
* I'm on a Windows XP terminal with FM8 and Adobe Acrobat 9 
Professional.
* The other three writers are on Windows 7 terminals with FM11 and 
Adobe Acrobat 10 Professional.
* We create pdf files by printing to the Adobe "printer" to get a ps 
(postscript) file, then running that through Distiller.

All worked OK through Wednesday, but not today (Thursday).
While I _can_ continue to successfully create pdf files as described, at least 
two of the other three guys can't.

What we've done:
* Saved a sample file down to mif version 7 onto our network drive for 
me to open in FM8.
* I open the sample file in FM8 but still can't create a ps file 
(always "0 kb" file size results) from that sample file.
* This is true whether I try it straight from the mif file or save it 
as an FM8 file and then try it.
Nobody had consciously changed anything on their terminals over the course of 
Wednesday to cause this today.

And yes, I've made sure that the "Rely on system fonts only" checkbox is 
UNchecked when they and I try to create a ps file using the sample FM11 file.

My suggested fix is for the three to remain on Windows 7 but reinstall FM8 
since we here only output pdf files for hardcopy distribution anyway. That's a 
losing battle, however, even though it would increase our productivity 
immensely -- at least in the short term.


Help please.

-- Ken in Atlanta






>
> From: Shmuel Wolfson 
>To: framers at lists.frameusers.com 
>Sent: Monday, August 19, 2013 3:38 AM
>Subject: Re: OT:  Font suggestions for book?
> 
>
>
>We use Arial for headings and Century Schoolbook for the paragraph text. 
>Generally san-serif fonts are better for onscreen reading and serif fonts are 
>better for print. Century Schoolbook is a serif font that is similar to Times 
>New Roman but less compressed. It's very comfortable for onscreen reading and 
>when printed. 
>
>Regards,
Shmuel Wolfson
Technical Writer
052-763-7133 
On 19-Aug-13 2:04 AM, Scott Turner wrote:
>
>I have a fondness for Minion or Garamond. I think you can find a free font 
>that is similar to these. However, the cost is relatively small, so purchase 
>should be considered.
>>
>>
>>The advantage if Minion and Garamond is that they both have a relatively low 
>>height to width ratio, making them very readable. If you opt for a free font, 
>>look for that. Avoid Times, it's narrow, designed for newspaper columns.
>>
>>On Aug 15, 2013, at 17:22, "VLM TechSubs" >VibrantLivingMinistries.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> 
>>>Greetings everyone,
>>>?
>>>I?m working in FM 8, Win 7 x64 on a book that will be published this Fall. 
>>>I?ve now been asked to do the book design, in addition to most of the 
>>>writing and basic template design. The subject matter is primarily financial 
>>>? it?s a book about the history of taxation. It?s not a scholarly work at 
>>>all, but rather one designed to ?wake up? American teens and young adults to 
>>>some of the issues involved. Footnotes are used here and there, but more for 
>>>explanation of background/details than in a traditional sense as references. 
>>>The book will be published in a standard 6x9 format, paperback. 
>>>?
>>>All that having been said ? What are people?s favorite or recommended fonts 
>>>for such a project. And since this is being published on a shoestring budget 
>>>with a nonprofit/educational bent, suggestions of free fonts would be most 
>>>welcome. 
>>>?
>>>Well, thanks in advance!
>>>?
>>>Best regards,
>>>Elchanan
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