Re: FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
I had this problem with 7.0 once, but I was trying to set the properties from within the component file. Check the settings for the file in the book file. The book file overrides the settings in the component file and changes its settings. And, IIRC, the book file wants all its components to have

Re: FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Bill Swallow
I *wonder*, though, if this isn't really an artifact of generated files. I update the pagination which fixes the problem, but then I regenerate, which creates a new, broken file. I wonder if FM is simply not smart enough to generate an extra page when it regenerates the list of tables. Anyone

Re: FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Art Campbell
First, check the internal pagination setting of the generated file and make sure it's set to double-sided, not single sided. Then check the pagination settings of the files that come before and after it in the book; ideally they should all be set the same and at the book level. Also, Art On

RE: Numbers in my book's ToC?

2006-01-25 Thread Lester C. Smalley
On TOC reference page of the Table of Contents document, you can add the $paranum or $paranumonly building blocks to the xxxTOC paragraphs (e.g., Head1TOC) to extract the number of the specific item. For example, you might have the Head1TOC paragraph as: $paranum\ $paratext\T$pagenum (where \

RE: Spam from India?

2006-01-25 Thread Bernard Aschwanden
Hi John, Hopefully the bulk of people respond directly to you and maybe you can let Lisa (and the list?) know the results... Just to avoid a flood of email as I'm sure that you're not the only one. I did get that same email so let's hope that we can track it. In their defense, the content is

Re: Spam from India?

2006-01-25 Thread Art Campbell
Last fall, yes. And thank you, gmail, for effective filtering. Art On 1/25/06, John Huntington [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did anyone else get this Framemaker Spam? Did he harvest the names from this FrameUsers list? Original Message Subject:FrameMaker Date: Wed,

RE: Numbers in my book's ToC?

2006-01-25 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 10:08 am -0500 25/1/06, Bernard Aschwanden wrote: In a total and self promting way, consider getting Advanced FrameMaker (I have copies of the book) as there is a stellar, well thought out, well written, feature rich, intelligently designed (ha-ha) chapter just on generated files. Oh ya, I

RE: Numbers in my book's ToC?

2006-01-25 Thread Combs, Richard
Murray Moore wrote: I have created a paragraph numbering tag for each type of heading in my chapter ToC, e.g. toc12 is $chapnum.n=0. I have created a paragraph numbering tag for each type of chapter text heading, e.g. Head1 is S:Section $chapnum.n=0 \t I have added the number manually

unavailable figures make Frame crash

2006-01-25 Thread Jakob Fix
Hello, we have the following problem on a couple of machines, with different documents: If, on opening a file with missing figures, the user chooses to skip this (and possibly all other figures), Frame crashes. Occurs on some machines, not all of them. Frame is +SGML 5.5.6, Windows is 2000 or

Re: batch-upgrading documents 5.5.6 to 7.2?

2006-01-25 Thread Scott Prentice
Also .. FileTools has a Force Open All Files in Book command (just open the book and click the menu item) .. http://www.leximation.com/tools/info/filetools.php This isn't free, but does have a 30-day trial period which should be sufficient to convert all of your files. Regards, Scott

Re: Spam from India?

2006-01-25 Thread Peter Gold
I just got one of these addressed to a long-gone former employee whose mail is routed to me. This person never posted to this list. This makes it seem that perhaps the mail is being sent to addressees culled from multiple sources, such as company directories, Web sites, vendor listings, and

RE: FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Joe Malin
I'm not sure if *this* was the suggestion that started things working, but now they work. Thanks to everyone who replied! As a lone writer, I absolutely depend on you for help, and you always come through... Joe Malin Technical Writer (408)625-1623 [EMAIL PROTECTED] www.tuvox.com The

RE: FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Combs, Richard
Joe Malin wrote: Uh, no, I'm not saving them. Didn't think of it. The list file is set to double-sided in the Pagination dialog. Well, I hate to ask, but have you _ever_ saved the generated file(s), or are you creating a new one each time you generate? If the latter, that would explain

Re: FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Art Campbell
Joe, Any time you turn around, save the file. Changing the settings as you did is the same as altering the text in the file. If you don't save, you lose. Cheers, Art On 1/25/06, Joe Malin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm not sure if *this* was the suggestion that started things working, but now

Fw: OT: Framemaker for UNIX User's Guide, Release 5

2006-01-25 Thread Tammy . VanBoening
Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Aviation Courseware Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 [EMAIL PROTECTED] - Forwarded by Tammy VanBoening/Jeppesen/TMC on 01/25/2006 12:08 PM - Tammy VanBoening/Jeppesen/TMC 01/25/2006 12:07 PM To Framers, STC List cc Subject OT:

RE: Gage vs. Gauge

2006-01-25 Thread Chad LaCroix
Jackie wondered: Does anyone have a very specific definition and set of examples that differentiate GAGE and GAUGE? I'm no pro on this by any means but I found this by Googling and thought that it might be applicable -- Gage, Gauge- Gauge is the spelling used in Great Britain but finds some use

RE: Gage vs. Gauge

2006-01-25 Thread Grant Hogarth
It also describes the interior diameter of a shotgun barrel (12 gauge, 14 gauge) the exterior diameter of an electrical wire (16 gauge 8 gauge) NOTE: for both of these, the larger the number, the smaller the actual dimension the spacing of track rails (Narrow gauge, broad

RE: FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Ridder, Fred
FWIW, the technique I use and have disseminated to all the other writers in my group is this: - in the same directory as your book file, make a copy of each generated file template using the expected name (for example, booknameTOC.fm and booknameLOF.fm) - use the book file's Add menu to add

POLL RESULTS: Which method do you use to apply bold and italics?

2006-01-25 Thread John Wilcox
-Original Message- From: John Wilcox Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:30 PM This came up as a possible style standards issue here. ... A. Click the B and I buttons, or press Ctrl+B and Ctrl+I. B. Select Bold and Emphasis from the Character Catalog. Of the 37 responses I got, 35

Two Frame Issues

2006-01-25 Thread Doug
When I click the Format menu option in FrameMaker, the Font, Size, and Style options are available. Obviously this can lead to applying format overrides. I believe someone has created a plug-in that will disable and/or remove these options...can someone remind me what the name of it is? Also,

Re: batch-upgrading documents 5.5.6 to 7.2?

2006-01-25 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:14:44 +0100, Jakob Fix [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I guess one could save the old files in MIF, and load them in 7.x, but how can this be automated? DZBatcher? Any other ideas? Sure. Download the free demo version of Mif2Go: http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm

Comparing WebWorks versions

2006-01-25 Thread Anderson, Eileen
My team is using structured FrameMaker v7.1, Sourcerer v1.11, and WebWorks Publisher v7.0.6 to create single-source documents to output for different audiences and media (including print, PDF, and HTML). Ideally, we'd like to upgrade to the latest version of all software, including FrameMaker

Re: Comparing WebWorks versions

2006-01-25 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Eileen, I recently used Sourcerer 1.11 with FrameMaker 7.2 and it worked fine. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Ideally, we'd like to upgrade to the latest version of all software, including FrameMaker v7.2 and WebWorks ePublisher Pro. However, Sourcerer (which

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
I had this problem with 7.0 once, but I was trying to set the properties from within the component file. Check the settings for the file in the book file. The book file overrides the settings in the component file and changes its settings. And, IIRC, the book file wants all its components to have

batch-upgrading documents 5.5.6 to 7.2?

2006-01-25 Thread Jakob Fix
Hello, well, we've almost finished our migration software-wise, now we need to convert several hundreds documents to the new version. instead of opening each and every file manually, being told that it's a version 5 document, and agreeing to have it updated by clicking the OK button in the

Numbers in my book's ToC?

2006-01-25 Thread Murray Moore
I have created a paragraph numbering tag for each type of heading in my chapter ToC, e.g. toc12 is

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Bill Swallow
> I *wonder*, though, if this isn't really an artifact of generated files. > I update the pagination which fixes the problem, but then I regenerate, > which creates a new, "broken" file. I wonder if FM is simply not smart > enough to generate an extra page when it regenerates the list of tables. >

batch-upgrading documents 5.5.6 to 7.2?

2006-01-25 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Jakob: Yes, you can automate this process. Search Google for "DoBatch," and "DZBatcher," two free utilities that work on Windows FM, like the FM-unix utility, fmbatch. At 12:14 PM +0100 1/25/06, Jakob Fix wrote: > >So, to restate my question, is there a "silent option" to open files

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Art Campbell
First, check the internal pagination setting of the generated file and make sure it's set to double-sided, not single sided. Then check the pagination settings of the files that come before and after it in the book; ideally they should all be set the same and at the book level. Also, Art On

Numbers in my book's ToC?

2006-01-25 Thread Lester C. Smalley
On TOC reference page of the Table of Contents document, you can add the <$paranum> or <$paranumonly> building blocks to the xxxTOC paragraphs (e.g., Head1TOC) to extract the number of the specific item. For example, you might have the Head1TOC paragraph as: <$paranum>\ <$paratext>\T<$pagenum>

Numbers in my book's ToC?

2006-01-25 Thread Bernard Aschwanden
In the reference page of the TOC find the code that looks like this: <$paratext> <$pagenum> Then add this to it: <$paranum> or <$paranumonly> where you feel it would do the most good :) Likely you'll end up with this: <$paranum> <$paratext> <$pagenum> or <$paranumonly> <$paratext>

Spam from India?

2006-01-25 Thread John Huntington
Did anyone else get this Framemaker Spam? Did he harvest the names from this FrameUsers list? Original Message Subject:FrameMaker Date: Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:49:58 +0530 From: Aggarwal, Dhiraj To: XXX Hi, I apologize for intruding

Spam from India?

2006-01-25 Thread Bernard Aschwanden
Hi John, Hopefully the bulk of people respond directly to you and maybe you can let Lisa (and the list?) know the results... Just to avoid a flood of email as I'm sure that you're not the only one. I did get that same email so let's hope that we can track it. In their defense, the content is

Spam from India?

2006-01-25 Thread Art Campbell
Last fall, yes. And thank you, gmail, for effective filtering. Art On 1/25/06, John Huntington wrote: > Did anyone else get this Framemaker Spam? Did he harvest the names from > this FrameUsers list? > > Original Message > Subject:FrameMaker > Date: Wed, 25 Jan

Spam from India?

2006-01-25 Thread John Huntington
Bernard Aschwanden wrote: > Hi John, Hopefully the bulk of people respond directly to you and maybe you > can let Lisa (and the list?) know the results... Just to avoid a flood of > email as I'm sure that you're not the only one. Yep, I've already gotten about 10 messages and it's about 50/50.

Numbers in my book's ToC?

2006-01-25 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 10:08 am -0500 25/1/06, Bernard Aschwanden wrote: >In a total and self promting way, consider getting Advanced FrameMaker (I have >copies of the book) as there is a stellar, well thought out, well written, >feature rich, intelligently designed (ha-ha) chapter just on generated files. >Oh

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Combs, Richard
Joe Malin wrote: > I'm trying to update a book with several files in it. One > file has only one page in it. I set the pagination properties > in Format > Page Layout > > Pagination to "Make Page Count Even" so it will add an extra blank > page. But every time I update the book, this file is

Spam from India?

2006-01-25 Thread John Huntington
Fred Ridder wrote: > That's an unrealistic attitude, John. I think not, I have been on literally 20+ lists since about 1987 and this is now the THIRD Spam message ever I have gotten from a mailing list. In each of those other cases, the member was disciplined or removed. If not, it just

Numbers in my book's ToC?

2006-01-25 Thread Combs, Richard
Murray Moore wrote: > I have created a paragraph numbering tag for each type of > heading in my chapter ToC, e.g. toc12 is

Numbers in my book's ToC?

2006-01-25 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 9:28 am -0700 25/1/06, Combs, Richard wrote: >If that's really true, you're doing something seriously wrong. The whole >point of adding an autonumber to a paragraph tag definition is so that >it will -- you know -- automatically have a number. Are you really >manually adding numbers? If so,

unavailable figures make Frame crash

2006-01-25 Thread Jakob Fix
Hello, we have the following problem on a couple of machines, with different documents: If, on opening a file with missing figures, the user chooses to skip this (and possibly all other figures), Frame crashes. Occurs on some machines, not all of them. Frame is +SGML 5.5.6, Windows is 2000 or

batch-upgrading documents 5.5.6 to 7.2?

2006-01-25 Thread Scott Prentice
Also .. FileTools has a "Force Open All Files in Book" command (just open the book and click the menu item) .. http://www.leximation.com/tools/info/filetools.php This isn't free, but does have a 30-day trial period which should be sufficient to convert all of your files. Regards, Scott

Spam from India?

2006-01-25 Thread Peter Gold
I just got one of these addressed to a long-gone former employee whose mail is routed to me. This person never posted to this list. This makes it seem that perhaps the mail is being sent to addressees culled from multiple sources, such as company directories, Web sites, vendor listings, and

unavailable figures make Frame crash

2006-01-25 Thread Shlomo Perets
Jakob, You wrote: >we have the following problem on a couple of machines, with different >documents: > >If, on opening a file with missing figures, the user chooses to skip >this (and possibly all other figures), Frame crashes. > >Occurs on some machines, not all of them. Frame is +SGML 5.5.6,

unavailable figures make Frame crash

2006-01-25 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Jakob, This is a known bug with Frame 5.5.6 and 6 with Windows XP. There is a patch for 6 but I don't think there is one for 5.5.6. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Hello, we have the following problem on a couple of machines, with different documents: If,

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Joe Malin
Yes, I've tried that. It works, but the next time I generate files, the setting goes back. Joe Joe Malin Technical Writer (408)625-1623 jmalin at tuvox.com www.tuvox.com The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not necessarily reflect those of TuVox,

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Art Campbell
Are you saving the files after you change the setting, before you update the second time. And, is the List file set to double-sided pagination? Art On 1/25/06, Joe Malin wrote: > Yes, I've tried that. It works, but the next time I generate files, the > setting goes back. > > Joe -- Art

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Joe Malin
Uh, no, I'm not saving them. Didn't think of it. The list file is set to double-sided in the Pagination dialog. Joe Malin Technical Writer (408)625-1623 jmalin at tuvox.com www.tuvox.com The views expressed in this document are those of the sender, and do not necessarily reflect those

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Bill Swallow
Save it. ;-) On 1/25/06, Joe Malin wrote: > Uh, no, I'm not saving them. Didn't think of it. The list file is set to > double-sided in the Pagination dialog. -- Bill Swallow HATT List Owner WWP-Users List Owner 42.8162,-73.7736 http://techcommdood.blogspot.com I

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Joe Malin
I'm not sure if *this* was the suggestion that started things working, but now they work. Thanks to everyone who replied! As a lone writer, I absolutely depend on you for help, and you always come through... Joe Malin Technical Writer (408)625-1623 jmalin at tuvox.com www.tuvox.com

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Combs, Richard
Joe Malin wrote: > Uh, no, I'm not saving them. Didn't think of it. The list > file is set to double-sided in the Pagination dialog. > Well, I hate to ask, but have you _ever_ saved the generated file(s), or are you creating a new one each time you generate? If the latter, that would

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Art Campbell
Joe, Any time you turn around, save the file. Changing the settings as you did is the same as altering the text in the file. If you don't save, you lose. Cheers, Art On 1/25/06, Joe Malin wrote: > I'm not sure if *this* was the suggestion that started things working, > but now they work. Thanks

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Joe Malin
Oh yeah I save them. In fact, when I'm initially creating a generated file, I do the trick of generating, saving, overwriting the file with my own template file, and then regenerating. Joe Malin Technical Writer (408)625-1623 jmalin at tuvox.com www.tuvox.com The views expressed in

Fw: OT: Framemaker for UNIX User's Guide, Release 5

2006-01-25 Thread tammy.vanboen...@jeppesen.com
Tammy Van Boening Senior Technical Writer Aviation Courseware Development Jeppesen Sanderson, Inc. 303-328-4420 tammy.vanboening at jeppesen.com - Forwarded by Tammy VanBoening/Jeppesen/TMC on 01/25/2006 12:08 PM - Tammy VanBoening/Jeppesen/TMC 01/25/2006 12:07 PM To Framers, STC List

Gage vs. Gauge

2006-01-25 Thread Chad LaCroix
Jackie wondered: "Does anyone have a very specific definition and set of examples that differentiate GAGE and GAUGE?" I'm no pro on this by any means but I found this by Googling and thought that it might be applicable --> "Gage, Gauge- Gauge is the spelling used in Great Britain but finds some

Gage vs. Gauge

2006-01-25 Thread Grant Hogarth
It also describes the interior diameter of a shotgun barrel ("12 gauge", "14 gauge") the exterior diameter of an electrical wire ("16 gauge" "8 gauge") NOTE: for both of these, the larger the number, the smaller the actual dimension the spacing of track rails ("Narrow gauge",

FM driving me crazy!

2006-01-25 Thread Ridder, Fred
FWIW, the technique I use and have disseminated to all the other writers in my group is this: - in the same directory as your book file, make a copy of each generated file template using the expected name (for example, booknameTOC.fm and booknameLOF.fm) - use the book file's "Add" menu to

POLL RESULTS: Which method do you use to apply bold and italics?

2006-01-25 Thread John Wilcox
> -Original Message- > From: John Wilcox > Sent: Monday, January 16, 2006 3:30 PM > This came up as a possible style standards issue here. ... > A. Click the B and I buttons, or press Ctrl+B and Ctrl+I. > B. Select Bold and Emphasis from the Character Catalog. Of the 37 responses I got,

Two Frame Issues

2006-01-25 Thread Doug
When I click the Format menu option in FrameMaker, the Font, Size, and Style options are available. Obviously this can lead to applying format overrides. I believe someone has created a plug-in that will disable and/or remove these options...can someone remind me what the name of it is? Also,

batch-upgrading documents 5.5.6 to 7.2?

2006-01-25 Thread Jeremy H. Griffith
On Wed, 25 Jan 2006 12:14:44 +0100, Jakob Fix wrote: >I guess one could save the old files in MIF, and load them in 7.x, >but how can this be automated? DZBatcher? Any other ideas? Sure. Download the free demo version of Mif2Go: http://www.omsys.com/dcl/download.htm Install it; you only

Comparing WebWorks versions

2006-01-25 Thread Anderson, Eileen
My team is using structured FrameMaker v7.1, Sourcerer v1.11, and WebWorks Publisher v7.0.6 to create single-source documents to output for different audiences and media (including print, PDF, and HTML). Ideally, we'd like to upgrade to the latest version of all software, including FrameMaker

Comparing WebWorks versions

2006-01-25 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Eileen, I recently used Sourcerer 1.11 with FrameMaker 7.2 and it worked fine. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Ideally, we'd like to upgrade to the latest version of all software, including FrameMaker v7.2 and WebWorks ePublisher Pro. However, Sourcerer (which

AW: batch-upgrading documents 5.5.6 to 7.2?

2006-01-25 Thread Reng, Winfried
Hi, > >So, to restate my question, is there a "silent option" to open files > >created in a previous version in 7.x? You might test Mif2Go. It has a feature to "Wash via MIF" which works also on book files and in demo mode. The description in the help file is below. Best regards Winfried ---