Re: Variable length rule below paragraph

2006-04-27 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:17 +0200 27/4/06, Yves Barbion wrote: I have done this by including the paragraph in a one-cell table. You can make a dedicated table format (with bottom ruling only) and resize it to the width of the cell's contents. I have faced the same problem, and can confirm that Yves' suggestion is

Re: Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker

2006-04-27 Thread Bill Briggs
At 9:18 PM -0500 4/26/06, Peter Gold wrote: Hi, Bill, Dan, and all: At 8:46 PM -0300 4/26/06, Bill Briggs wrote: Yeah, it would be a really great thing to have all of FrameMaker's hypertext capabilities survive to PDF. But we'll see a plethora of tiny little Photoshop-style pallets before we'll

Re: Variable length rule below paragraph

2006-04-27 Thread Rick Quatro
As Yves mentioned, this could be made possible (and practical) with FrameScript. Otherwise, it is probably not worth the trouble. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Hi all, Is there a way to create a rule below a paragraph that has a variable length? That is,

RE: Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker

2006-04-27 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Bill: At 8:23 AM -0300 4/27/06, Bill Briggs wrote: At 7:14 AM -0400 4/27/06, Batsford, Steve wrote: Rick, My sentiment exactly. The popups and all of the available links SOUND cool. But in the real world all my content to my end users is in PDF. There used to be a product called

Re: Variable length rule below paragraph

2006-04-27 Thread Peter Gold
Is there a way to create a rule below a paragraph that has a variable length? That is, its length is adjusted according to the amount of text on the line, in the paragraph above. This is one of those frilly font-twiddler typographic things that InDesign can do without blinking twice. Or even

Re: Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker

2006-04-27 Thread Rick Quatro
If I remember correctly, there was a smaller footprint program called FrameReader that could be used to view FrameMaker documents. I think it was less expensive than FrameViewer. Rick FrameViewer was FrameMaker, just crippled to prevent authoring. It was expensive to purchase for just a

Re: Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker

2006-04-27 Thread Paul Findon
On 27 Apr 2006, at 03:18, Peter Gold wrote: I'm not sure if you'd find it by digging in Wikipedia, but to put your point in context, it helps to know that in the early days of unix and FrameMaker, as with the early days of CP/M, each hardware manufacturer had a proprietary version of the OS,

RE: Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker

2006-04-27 Thread Bill Briggs
At 6:42 AM -0500 4/27/06, Peter Gold wrote: Hi, Bill: At 8:23 AM -0300 4/27/06, Bill Briggs wrote: At 7:14 AM -0400 4/27/06, Batsford, Steve wrote: Rick, My sentiment exactly. The popups and all of the available links SOUND cool. But in the real world all my content to my end users is in PDF.

Converting FM to Word (was RE: Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker)

2006-04-27 Thread Combs, Richard
David Levy wrote: I'm at the point where, if a client wants the work done in Word, I build it in FM, PDF it, and then use an OCR program to convert it to Word. The results are better than FM's Save as feature. shudder / OCR??? The PDF contains *real words*, not an *image* of the

Re: Visio (2003) drawings into FrameMaker (7.2, unstructured)?

2006-04-27 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 08:31 -0700 27/4/06, Guy K. Haas wrote: But Visio 2003 does not offer .eps among its save-as options. The most desirable of the offerings (for line drawings) seem to be .gif, .png, and .svg[z]. My guess would be .svg because it's vector. Any guidance on 1. whether FrameMaker can embed

Re: Visio (2003) drawings into FrameMaker (7.2, unstructured)?

2006-04-27 Thread Robert Kern
We also use a lot of Visio drawings, but do not yet have Visio 2003 so can not comment on any improvement (or lack thereof) for exporting to other file types. Our highest quality comes when we print Visio to press-ready PDFs, then open in Acrobat, crop as needed, and save as EPS. The only

RE: Visio (2003) drawings into FrameMaker (7.2, unstructured)?

2006-04-27 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
Guy, I know that folks will likely tell you that it's not the recommended way, but I have embedded Visio objects into a couple of FM books successfully. I learned about it from another list member (John, are you out there?), and it has been fine. Other than that, the recommended procedure is

RE: Visio (2003) drawings into FrameMaker (7.2, unstructured)?

2006-04-27 Thread Hales-Crotchett, Nicole
For what it's worth, I haven't had any troubles either embedding Visio objects and I've done it numerous times in several books. Nicole -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] .com] On Behalf Of Linda G. Gallagher Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 9:53 AM To:

RE: Visio (2003) drawings into FrameMaker (7.2, unstructured)?

2006-04-27 Thread Jim Light
This is not a problem. I have Visio 2003 (SP2) and it allows me to export as tif, gif, png. You can check to see if the quality is a problem, but you don't have to do that at all, really. You can import the vsd file as an object into FrameMaker. Click File Import Object. In the Insert Object

RE: Visio (2003) drawings into FrameMaker (7.2, unstructured)?

2006-04-27 Thread Neil Tubb
I find it interesting that a few of you are saving your illustrations as EPS instead of leaving them as PDF and importing that into Frame. Is there an advantage to using EPS? I didn't even know you could save as EPS in Acrobat. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Converting FM to Word (was RE: Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker)

2006-04-27 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
Hi, Richard Combs, Richard wrote: David Levy wrote: I'm at the point where, if a client wants the work done in Word, I build it in FM, PDF it, and then use an OCR program to convert it to Word. The results are better than FM's Save as feature. shudder / OCR??? The PDF contains *real

RE: Visio (2003) drawings into FrameMaker (7.2, unstructured)?

2006-04-27 Thread Ridder, Fred
It depends on the version of Acrobat. In older versions you had to use the FileExport command to turn a PDF into an EPS. In Acrobat 7.0, you do it right from the Save As dialog. Just be sure you click the Settings button right below the Save as type list box so that you can properly

RE: OCR (was: Converting FM to Word and previously: Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker)

2006-04-27 Thread Kristina McCook
OmniPage 15 is about the best OCR program out there, and it is nearly perfect., if you're going to OCR anything. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Combs, Richard Sent: Thursday, April 27, 2006 12:37 PM To: David Levy; Framers List; Free

Re: Visio (2003) drawings into FrameMaker (7.2, unstructured)?

2006-04-27 Thread Robert Kern
Neil, Frame turns all images into EPS (even PDF) when it rips them. Therefore, if you have many images, you might run into performance issues if using formats other than EPS. -bob __ Robert Kern President, TIPS Technical Publishing, Inc. 108 E. Main Street,

Re: Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker

2006-04-27 Thread Peter Gold
NeXT even bundled FrameMaker 3.x with its machines. I don't remember FrameMaker being bundled with NeXT boxes. Was it a trial version? We bought all of our licenses (could have been a site license). Should I call tech support? I remember the word processor Write Now was bundled. It was

Defaults on importing graphics

2006-04-27 Thread Kevin Hunter
Hi all, I've been lurking on the digest version for a couple of months now, and have really appreciated everyone's contributions. Now I have a couple of questions relating to default settings on importing files. I mainly work on user's guides with walk-through type instructions with many

RE: Converting FM to Word (was RE: Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker)

2006-04-27 Thread Combs, Richard
Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: Hmmm ... I would be surprised if he is using a true image OCR program. I suspect a mis-speak! :) Perhaps you're right. But in fact, there's no _other_ kind of OCR program. OCR stands for optical character recognition. It's the process of converting an _image_ or

Re: Converting FM to Word (was RE: Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker)

2006-04-27 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
Hi, Richard Combs, Richard wrote: Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: Hmmm ... I would be surprised if he is using a true image OCR program. I suspect a mis-speak! :) Perhaps you're right. But in fact, there's no _other_ kind of OCR program. OCR stands for optical character recognition. It's the

Frame crashes when Paragraph Designer opens

2006-04-27 Thread Wilson, Dennis
There are two files (of about 12 in this book) which, when opened, and then Paragraph Designer is opened, it causes FM to crash. Anyone had a similar experience? FM 7.0p576, Windows XP Dennis Wilson Technical Publications Spirent Communications Performance Analysis - Broadband (818) 676-2358

Re: Frame crashes when Paragraph Designer opens

2006-04-27 Thread Rick Quatro
Dennis, Try saving the documents as MIF. Open the MIFs and save them over the FM files and try it again. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com There are two files (of about 12 in this book) which, when opened, and then Paragraph Designer is opened, it causes FM to

Re: Variable length rule below paragraph

2006-04-27 Thread Alan Litchfield
Thanks guys, I thought it would not be possible. I really dislike the imposition of using the table solution to create something like this, partly because it would not be that much of a problem to add a parameter to the Reference Frame that, say, made it a rubber length based on the

Re: Variable length rule below paragraph

2006-04-27 Thread Alan Litchfield
On Apr 28, 2006, at 9:56 AM, Scott Prentice wrote: This may be too obvious, and not customizable, but the use of a Numeric Underline does basically what you're asking for (as long as the line doesn't wrap). Might have been an option if one were able to adjust the distance of the

A couple (digest) items

2006-04-27 Thread Alan Litchfield
On Apr 27, 2006, at 12:41 AM, Beck, Charles wrote: > Is anyone at Adobe listening? > We did have an evangelist from Adobe, but he has been somewhat silent on this. Alan

Variable length rule below paragraph

2006-04-27 Thread Alan Litchfield
Hi all, Is there a way to create a rule below a paragraph that has a variable length? That is, its length is adjusted according to the amount of text on the line, in the paragraph above. Thanks Alan

Variable length rule below paragraph

2006-04-27 Thread Yves Barbion
Hello Alan, I have done this by including the paragraph in a one-cell table. You can make a dedicated table format (with bottom ruling only) and resize it to the width of the cell's contents. I guess it must be possible to run a Framescript every now and then to resize ALL these tables in a

Variable length rule below paragraph

2006-04-27 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 09:17 +0200 27/4/06, Yves Barbion wrote: >I have done this by including the paragraph in a one-cell table. You can >make a dedicated table format (with bottom ruling only) and resize it to the >width of the cell's contents. I have faced the same problem, and can confirm that Yves' suggestion

Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker

2006-04-27 Thread Bill Briggs
At 9:18 PM -0500 4/26/06, Peter Gold wrote: >Hi, Bill, Dan, and all: > >At 8:46 PM -0300 4/26/06, Bill Briggs wrote: >>Yeah, it would be a really great thing to have all of FrameMaker's hypertext >>capabilities survive to PDF. But we'll see a plethora of tiny little >>Photoshop-style pallets

Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker

2006-04-27 Thread Bill Briggs
At 7:14 AM -0400 4/27/06, Batsford, Steve wrote: >Rick, > >My sentiment exactly. >The popups and all of the available links SOUND cool. But in the real >world all my content to my end users is in PDF. There used to be a product called FrameViewer, and you could view other people's FrameMaker

Variable length rule below paragraph

2006-04-27 Thread Rick Quatro
As Yves mentioned, this could be made possible (and practical) with FrameScript. Otherwise, it is probably not worth the trouble. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com > Hi all, > > Is there a way to create a rule below a paragraph that has a variable > length? That

Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker

2006-04-27 Thread Peter Gold
Hi, Bill: At 8:23 AM -0300 4/27/06, Bill Briggs wrote: >At 7:14 AM -0400 4/27/06, Batsford, Steve wrote: >>Rick, >> >>My sentiment exactly. >>The popups and all of the available links SOUND cool. But in the real >>world all my content to my end users is in PDF. > > There used to be a product

Variable length rule below paragraph

2006-04-27 Thread Peter Gold
>Is there a way to create a rule below a paragraph that has a >variable length? That is, its length is adjusted according to the >amount of text on the line, in the paragraph above. This is one of those "frilly font-twiddler typographic things" that InDesign can do without blinking twice. Or

Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker

2006-04-27 Thread Rick Quatro
If I remember correctly, there was a smaller footprint program called FrameReader that could be used to view FrameMaker documents. I think it was less expensive than FrameViewer. Rick > FrameViewer was FrameMaker, just crippled to prevent authoring. It was > expensive to purchase for just a

Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker

2006-04-27 Thread Paul Findon
On 27 Apr 2006, at 03:18, Peter Gold wrote: > > I'm not sure if you'd find it by digging in Wikipedia, but to put your > point in context, it helps to know that in the early days of unix and > FrameMaker, as with the early days of CP/M, each hardware manufacturer > had a proprietary version of

Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker

2006-04-27 Thread Bill Briggs
At 6:42 AM -0500 4/27/06, Peter Gold wrote: >Hi, Bill: > >At 8:23 AM -0300 4/27/06, Bill Briggs wrote: >>At 7:14 AM -0400 4/27/06, Batsford, Steve wrote: >>>Rick, >>> >>>My sentiment exactly. >>>The popups and all of the available links SOUND cool. But in the real >>>world all my content to my end

Visio (2003) drawings into FrameMaker (7.2, unstructured)?

2006-04-27 Thread Guy K. Haas
My developers give me design files in Word containing embedded Visio objects to show UML and the like. While there are not very many, I WOULD like to use as delayed a binding as possible, to facilitate the updating of such drawings from (ever?)-changing engineering docs. I do not believe one

Converting FM to Word (was RE: Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker)

2006-04-27 Thread Combs, Richard
David Levy wrote: > I'm at the point where, if a client wants the work done in > Word, I build it in FM, PDF it, and then use an OCR program > to convert it to Word. The results are better than FM's > "Save as" feature. OCR??? The PDF contains *real words*, not an *image* of the words!

Visio (2003) drawings into FrameMaker (7.2, unstructured)?

2006-04-27 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 08:31 -0700 27/4/06, Guy K. Haas wrote: >But Visio 2003 does not offer .eps among its save-as options. The most >desirable of the offerings (for line drawings) seem to be .gif, .png, and >.svg[z]. My guess would be .svg because it's vector. > >Any guidance on >1. whether FrameMaker can

Visio (2003) drawings into FrameMaker (7.2, unstructured)?

2006-04-27 Thread Robert Kern
We also use a lot of Visio drawings, but do not yet have Visio 2003 so can not comment on any improvement (or lack thereof) for exporting to other file types. Our highest quality comes when we print Visio to press-ready PDFs, then open in Acrobat, crop as needed, and save as EPS. The only

Visio (2003) drawings into FrameMaker (7.2, unstructured)?

2006-04-27 Thread Linda G. Gallagher
Guy, I know that folks will likely tell you that it's not the recommended way, but I have embedded Visio objects into a couple of FM books successfully. I learned about it from another list member (John, are you out there?), and it has been fine. Other than that, the recommended procedure is

Visio (2003) drawings into FrameMaker (7.2, unstructured)?

2006-04-27 Thread Hales-Crotchett, Nicole
For what it's worth, I haven't had any troubles either embedding Visio objects and I've done it numerous times in several books. Nicole -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+nicole.hales-crotchett=lmco.com at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+nicole.hales-crotchett=lmco.com

Visio (2003) drawings into FrameMaker (7.2, unstructured)?

2006-04-27 Thread Jim Light
This is not a problem. I have Visio 2003 (SP2) and it allows me to export as tif, gif, png. You can check to see if the quality is a problem, but you don't have to do that at all, really. You can import the vsd file as an object into FrameMaker. Click File > Import > Object. In the Insert

Visio (2003) drawings into FrameMaker (7.2, unstructured)?

2006-04-27 Thread Neil Tubb
I find it interesting that a few of you are saving your illustrations as EPS instead of leaving them as PDF and importing that into Frame. Is there an advantage to using EPS? I didn't even know you could save as EPS in Acrobat. -Original Message- From:

Converting FM to Word (was RE: Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker)

2006-04-27 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
Hi, Richard Combs, Richard wrote: > David Levy wrote: >> I'm at the point where, if a client wants the work done in >> Word, I build it in FM, PDF it, and then use an OCR program >> to convert it to Word. The results are better than FM's >> "Save as" feature. > > OCR??? The PDF contains

Visio (2003) drawings into FrameMaker (7.2, unstructured)?

2006-04-27 Thread Ridder, Fred
It depends on the version of Acrobat. In older versions you had to use the File>Export command to turn a PDF into an EPS. In Acrobat 7.0, you do it right from the Save As dialog. Just be sure you click the Settings button right below the "Save as type" list box so that you can properly

OCR (was: Converting FM to Word and previously: Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker)

2006-04-27 Thread Kristina McCook
OmniPage 15 is about the best OCR program out there, and it is nearly perfect., if you're going to OCR anything. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+convextech=alltel@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces+convextech=alltel.net at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Combs,

Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker

2006-04-27 Thread Peter Gold
At 8:17 AM -0400 4/27/06, Rick Quatro wrote: >If I remember correctly, there was a smaller footprint program >called FrameReader that could be used to view FrameMaker documents. >I think it was less expensive than FrameViewer. I think it was FV with even more FrameMaker stuff removed. As

Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker

2006-04-27 Thread Peter Gold
>> NeXT even bundled FrameMaker 3.x with its machines. > >I don't remember FrameMaker being bundled with NeXT boxes. Was it a >trial version? We bought all of our licenses (could have been a site >license). Should I call tech support? > >I remember the word processor Write Now was bundled. It

Defaults on importing graphics

2006-04-27 Thread Kevin Hunter
Hi all, I've been lurking on the digest version for a couple of months now, and have really appreciated everyone's contributions. Now I have a couple of questions relating to default settings on importing files. I mainly work on user's guides with walk-through type instructions with many

Converting FM to Word (was RE: Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker)

2006-04-27 Thread Combs, Richard
Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: > Hmmm ... I would be surprised if he is using a true "image" > OCR program. I suspect a mis-speak! :) Perhaps you're right. But in fact, there's no _other_ kind of OCR program. OCR stands for "optical character recognition." It's the process of converting an _image_

Converting FM to Word (was RE: Creating Popup menus in FrameMaker)

2006-04-27 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
Hi, Richard Combs, Richard wrote: > Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: > >> Hmmm ... I would be surprised if he is using a true "image" >> OCR program. I suspect a mis-speak! :) > > Perhaps you're right. But in fact, there's no _other_ kind of OCR > program. OCR stands for "optical character

Frame crashes when Paragraph Designer opens

2006-04-27 Thread Wilson, Dennis
There are two files (of about 12 in this book) which, when opened, and then Paragraph Designer is opened, it causes FM to crash. Anyone had a similar experience? FM 7.0p576, Windows XP Dennis Wilson Technical Publications Spirent Communications Performance Analysis - Broadband (818) 676-2358

Frame crashes when Paragraph Designer opens

2006-04-27 Thread Rick Quatro
Dennis, Try saving the documents as MIF. Open the MIFs and save them over the FM files and try it again. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com There are two files (of about 12 in this book) which, when opened, and then Paragraph Designer is opened, it causes FM to

Variable length rule below paragraph

2006-04-27 Thread Scott Prentice
This may be too obvious, and not customizable, but the use of a Numeric Underline does basically what you're asking for (as long as the line doesn't wrap). In addition to the table method described, I've also seen this done using an anchored frame (At Insertion Point) at the end of the