At 14:39 -0400 8/6/06, Schoen, Brady wrote:
What I have is a Parts Drawing on the left, and the Parts Listing on the
right for each brand. The entire page is specific to each brand, not just a
word or the drawing, the entire page. What I did was put all 8 decal pages
(1 Drawing page and 1 parts
Hi Lin,
PageLabeler works fine with 7.2. Here are the most common causes of
problems:
1) In Acrobat, choose Edit Preferences and select the Page Display
category. Make sure that Use logical page numbers is checked.
2) If you print to PS, then distill, make sure you are using the Adobe PDF
Actually, where I have worked in the past, we used a combination of both
variables *and* conditional text for multiple versions of a product.
FWIW.
Chuck Beck
-Original Message-
Subject: RE: Hiding Pages?
In a situation where only the name changes, I find that it is *much*
more
Not to pick nits, but no, we don't all use it. In the office, I can't
use plugins at all, so I don't use any.
-Nicole
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From:
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Sent: Thursday, June 08, 2006 2:55 PM
To: Lin Surasky; Framers
My group at EMC
Not to pick nits, but no, we don't all use it. In
the office, I can't use plugins at all, so I don't use any.
Yes, we all do in this group.
John Posada
Senior Technical Writer
So long and thanks for all the fish.
___
Yep, my error in assumption was pointed out to me. Blame it on
pre-coffee state of mind!
Thanks,
Nicole
-Original Message-
From: John Posada [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 7:05 AM
To: Hales-Crotchett, Nicole; Framers (E-mail)
Subject: RE: PageLabeler Plugin
My
This might work better than text insets. I use text insets for definitions
of fields on screens and for introductory paragraphs that are used in more
than one chapter. Is there a limit to how much text you can insert with a
cross reference? My introductions often are two or three paragraphs.
No...I've imported documents that were hundreds of pages long into
another document.
Of course, everything has a limit...maybe a million pages might be a
problem?
than one chapter. Is there a limit to how much text you can insert
with a cross reference? My introductions often are two or
Wim,
I cannot imagine why you think translation and the tools used to do it
should not be discussed here. I have been answering questions about
localzation on this list for 14 years. So many questions in fact, that I
eventually compiled the answers to them into a small book, and at the
request
Is there a way import text insets by dragging and dropping them
into an open Frame document? It's irritating to have to jump
through the menu hoops when you have a large number of files to
import.
Not that I'm aware of. If there was, it WOULD save me loads of time.
FM has never been up to
See if the dpi setting you're using is 600 dpi, and if it is, set it
to a lower setting.
There was a bug that afflicted this particular combo of settings, went
away for a while, and
has manifested itself (at least on my systems) following an Acrobat 7
automatic upgrade.
The other thing to try
The text content of a cross-reference is limited by what you can build
using the Xref building blocks. It may be possible to have a Xref that
produces multiple paragraphs (Using \R in the def?) but I doubt it would
be workable.
But to combine multiple paragraphs, you need to have information
Sounds like a job for FrameScript...
Eric L. Dunn
Senior Technical Writer
Doug [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/09/2006 12:03:18 PM:
Is there a way import text insets by dragging and dropping them into
an open Frame document? It's irritating to have to jump through the
menu hoops when you have
Okay, open mouth and insert foot. I know they are different, but I made a
sloppy jump in logic and communication. Still have not grown out of that
habit. : ) I was thinking that a cross reference might solve a problem that
I have with text insets. I will open that in another thread.
Nancy
I'm trying to create some colours for a FrameMaker template which
correspond to our corporate style guide and I'm finding it rather
difficult. One of our corporate colours is Pantone 2627 which is a dark
violet. When I select Pantone 2627 in the Colour Definitions dialog box, it
does indeed look
Likewise here, as well as text insets from Reference pages.
Variables = Names, short strings (ex: Select this option to enable,
xth, For more information, refer to:, etc.)
Insets = Table cells whose contents are identical, functionality that
appears repeated times (example we have a tab that
Eric Dunn wrote:
The situation was this: hundreds of components, multiple ways
of writing their descriptions, abbreviations, and
specifications which led to an unmanageable mass of variables.
So, I turned to cross-references.
snip detailed description
What are the downsides? Well, so
I deliver primarily PDFs, and I wouldn't use xrefs in this
way because they'd become working hyperlinks in the PDFs. Ugh!
Actually they'd become BROKEN hyperlinks, since most likely the
referenced document isn't included in the doc set!
Deb Correia
Dear Edwin,
Pantone and CMYK are two completely different color (colour) schemes.
A printing press operator can either buy ink in a specific Pantone color
or mix the ink from an exact recipe of colors and proportions. People
use Pantone color when they need an exact color. Pantone colors are
Combs, Richard [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 06/09/2006 01:09:11
PM:
I deliver primarily PDFs, and I wouldn't use xrefs in this way because
they'd become working hyperlinks in the PDFs. Ugh!
Not a problem. You just change all those Xrefs into text and all is good.
The Xref formats used for the
Eric,
Nice innovation.
One of the challenges some writing teams face is project portability vs.
linking to shared content on a network. Sometimes variables provide a way
to maintain portability and standards without requiring a live connection
to a LAN architecture. Single-sourcing and using
As has been repeated in this forum, time and time again, if you are
'printing' to PDF you should be using the Acrobat Distiller print
driver, and not the drivers for any specific real or generic device.
This should show up in your system (Windows) as the Adobe PDF or
Acrobat Distiller (if you have
FrameUsers:
I wanted to clarify the information on some of the pre-recorded webinars
available from www.translate.com (ENLASO.) We have conducted a number of
free webinars, several of which have centered on translating/localizing
regular and structured FrameMaker documents.
You can request any
Dear Lester,
When you send a PDF file to an outside firm for printing, such as I
suggested for Edwin's project, your choice of printer driver can make a
big difference in output quality. The Adobe PDF driver is good when your
PDF is the final deliverable in the project, meaning it will be read
Lester is right! And also be aware that NO, repeat NO,
repeat yet again NO Windows driver, whether PostScript
or otherwise, can accept CMYK from applications, except
for EPS passthrough with the PostScript driver, since
the Windows imaging model is totally RGB. Drivers can
output CMYK (as the
At 14:39 -0400 8/6/06, Schoen, Brady wrote:
>What I have is a "Parts Drawing" on the left, and the "Parts Listing" on the
>right for each brand. The entire page is specific to each brand, not just a
>word or the drawing, the entire page. What I did was put all 8 decal pages
>(1 Drawing page and 1
Hi Lin,
PageLabeler works fine with 7.2. Here are the most common causes of
problems:
1) In Acrobat, choose Edit > Preferences and select the Page Display
category. Make sure that Use logical page numbers is checked.
2) If you print to PS, then distill, make sure you are using the Adobe PDF
Actually, where I have worked in the past, we used a combination of both
variables *and* conditional text for multiple versions of a product.
FWIW.
Chuck Beck
-Original Message-
Subject: RE: Hiding Pages?
In a situation where only the name changes, I find that it is *much*
more
Not to pick nits, but no, we don't all use it. In the office, I can't
use plugins at all, so I don't use any.
-Nicole
-Original Message-
From:
framers-bounces+nicole.hales-crotchett=lmco.com at lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces+nicole.hales-crotchett=lmco.com at
Have you tried inserting the page elements in an anchored frame and then
applying the conditional text to the anchored frame tag? This may
eliminate the extra pages.
Robin Potts
Technical Writer
ADTRAN EN Tech Pubs
robin.potts at adtran.com
963-6131
Message: 11
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2006 11:01:16
"Ridder, Fred" wrote on 06/08/2006 11:57:39 AM:
> In a situation where only the name changes, I find that it is *much*
> more maintainable to use a variable for the product name because
> you only have to make a change in one place (the variable's value
> definition) when one of the names changes
My group at EMC
>
> Not to pick nits, but no, we don't all use it. In
> the office, I can't use plugins at all, so I don't use any.
>
>
> Yes, we all do in this group.
>
>
John Posada
Senior Technical Writer
"So long and thanks for all the fish."
Yep, my error in assumption was pointed out to me. Blame it on
pre-coffee state of mind!
Thanks,
Nicole
-Original Message-
From: John Posada [mailto:jposad...@yahoo.com]
Sent: Friday, June 09, 2006 7:05 AM
To: Hales-Crotchett, Nicole; Framers (E-mail)
Subject: RE: PageLabeler Plugin
This might work better than text insets. I use text insets for definitions
of fields on screens and for introductory paragraphs that are used in more
than one chapter. Is there a limit to how much text you can insert with a
cross reference? My introductions often are two or three paragraphs.
No...I've imported documents that were hundreds of pages long into
another document.
Of course, everything has a limit...maybe a million pages might be a
problem?
> than one chapter. Is there a limit to how much text you can insert
> with a cross reference? My introductions often are two or
Wim,
I cannot imagine why you think translation and the tools used to do it
should not be discussed here. I have been answering questions about
localzation on this list for 14 years. So many questions in fact, that I
eventually compiled the answers to them into a small book, and at the
request
Is there a way import text insets by dragging and dropping them into
an open Frame document? It's irritating to have to jump through the
menu hoops when you have a large number of files to import.
--Doug
> Is there a way import text insets by dragging and dropping them
> into an open Frame document? It's irritating to have to jump
> through the menu hoops when you have a large number of files to
> import.
Not that I'm aware of. If there was, it WOULD save me loads of time.
FM has never been up
See if the dpi setting you're using is 600 dpi, and if it is, set it
to a lower setting.
There was a bug that afflicted this particular combo of settings, went
away for a while, and
has manifested itself (at least on my systems) following an Acrobat 7
automatic upgrade.
The other thing to try is
The text content of a cross-reference is limited by what you can build
using the Xref building blocks. It may be possible to have a Xref that
produces multiple paragraphs (Using \R in the def?) but I doubt it would
be workable.
But to combine multiple paragraphs, you need to have information
Sounds like a job for FrameScript...
Eric L. Dunn
Senior Technical Writer
Doug wrote on 06/09/2006 12:03:18 PM:
> Is there a way import text insets by dragging and dropping them into
> an open Frame document? It's irritating to have to jump through the
> menu hoops when you have a large
Okay, open mouth and insert foot. I know they are different, but I made a
sloppy jump in logic and communication. Still have not grown out of that
habit. : ) I was thinking that a cross reference might solve a problem that
I have with text insets. I will open that in another thread.
Nancy
I'm trying to create some colours for a FrameMaker template which
correspond to our corporate style guide and I'm finding it rather
difficult. One of our corporate colours is "Pantone 2627" which is a dark
violet. When I select Pantone 2627 in the Colour Definitions dialog box, it
does indeed
Likewise here, as well as text insets from Reference pages.
Variables = Names, short strings (ex: "Select this option to enable",
"xth", "For more information, refer to:", etc.)
Insets = Table cells whose contents are identical, functionality that
appears repeated times (example we have a tab
Eric Dunn wrote:
> The situation was this: hundreds of components, multiple ways
> of writing their descriptions, abbreviations, and
> specifications which led to an unmanageable mass of variables.
>
> So, I turned to cross-references.
> What are the downsides? Well, so far nothing. But I
> I deliver primarily PDFs, and I wouldn't use xrefs in this
> way because they'd become working hyperlinks in the PDFs. Ugh!
Actually they'd become BROKEN hyperlinks, since most likely the
referenced document isn't included in the doc set!
Deb Correia
Dear Edwin,
Pantone and CMYK are two completely different color (colour) schemes.
A printing press operator can either buy ink in a specific Pantone color
or mix the ink from an exact recipe of colors and proportions. People
use Pantone color when they need an exact color. Pantone colors are
"Combs, Richard" wrote on 06/09/2006 01:09:11
PM:
> I deliver primarily PDFs, and I wouldn't use xrefs in this way because
> they'd become working hyperlinks in the PDFs. Ugh!
Not a problem. You just change all those Xrefs into text and all is good.
The Xref formats used for the purpose of
Changing to text destroys the purpose of using the xref (e.g., one-stop
updating/changes). I think you can modify PDF setup not to convert xrefs
to hyperlinks... but if you have functional xrefs for other purposes, you
might not want to do that. So much depends on what you've already done in
the
As has been repeated in this forum, time and time again, if you are
'printing' to PDF you should be using the Acrobat Distiller print
driver, and not the drivers for any specific real or generic device.
This should show up in your system (Windows) as the "Adobe PDF" or
"Acrobat Distiller" (if you
This isn't drag and drop, but you could use the shortcut keys for
importing files -
ESC f-i-f. It's faster than going to the menu, anyway. -Shelly
-Original Message-
Doug wrote on 06/09/2006 12:03:18 PM:
> Is there a way import text insets by dragging and dropping them into
> an
FrameUsers:
I wanted to clarify the information on some of the pre-recorded webinars
available from www.translate.com (ENLASO.) We have conducted a number of
free webinars, several of which have centered on translating/localizing
regular and structured FrameMaker documents.
You can request any
Dear Lester,
When you send a PDF file to an outside firm for printing, such as I
suggested for Edwin's project, your choice of printer driver can make a
big difference in output quality. The Adobe PDF driver is good when your
PDF is the final deliverable in the project, meaning it will be read
Lester is right! And also be aware that NO, repeat NO,
repeat yet again NO Windows driver, whether PostScript
or otherwise, can accept CMYK from applications, except
for EPS passthrough with the PostScript driver, since
the Windows imaging model is totally RGB. Drivers can
output CMYK (as the
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