Hi all,
I'll be leaving my current position as a lone writer in a couple weeks and
want to make the transition as smooth as possible for the next person in
this position. Does anyone know of any decent FrameMaker classes or other
training that might be available to a company in the Great Lakes
I forgot to mention that this is for San Jose. And is actually a very
nice and not-crazy-with-unrealistic-deadlines place to work.
Anna
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Hi Hedley,
I'm not sure why you responded so vehemently to this, though I do
understand, and agree in principle, that contract part-time jobs can be
and often are detrimental to the worker. That isn't always the case,
though. Some people, myself included for the last 10-15 years, like to
have a
Yves (and Milan),
I'd like to point out that structured Frame does not necessarily mean
topic-based authoring, XML, information mapping, or DITA. You can get lots of
benefit from it without any of those things. I think that when you present
structured Frame in this light, you misrepresent the
--- Marcus Carr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Why do you want to go to structured data?
Good question (and good thoughts on the question), but
that's a different topic. For the purposes of this
topic, let's imagine that the reasons are sound.
And in case I forget to mention it later, thanks for
all
Among other news, getting data into one structured
format makes it much easier to convert to others
later.
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Paradigm shifts and all those things the DITA camp
seems to believe are a bit frightening to the
average author, and for good reason. You can use
structured
But the point remains that the best way to prepare
depends greatly on what your goals and objectives
are. Just as one example, if you are not planning
to adopt topic-oriented authoring and topic-level
reuse, then spending time learning about DITA
would be a digression rather than progress toward
--- Ridder, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But the point remains that the best way to prepare
depends greatly on what your goals and objectives
are.
Would it be possible to discuss good ways rather
than best ones and keep it all at a fairly high
level?
Or perhaps everything at the high level
One reason many of us are strong supporters of best
practices is that it not only gets users working
faster, but provides a better introduction to the
complete theory of how to use a tool.
--- Milan Davidovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Would it be possible to discuss good ways rather
than best
Fred said:
But the point remains that the best way to prepare depends greatly on what your
goals and objectives are. Just as one example, if you are not planning to adopt
topic-oriented authoring and topic-level reuse, then spending time learning
about DITA would be a digression rather than
Morning Dave,
If you mean the Chicago area of the Great Lakes, you might take a look at
http://www.ledet.com/training/software/adobe/framemaker/ . Never used the
organization, but with our prior FrameMaker trainer gone I was looking the
other day and found this group.
Best,
Denise L.
I agree - I do not need to know THE answer; I need to know AN answer that will
do the trick.
But all I get are:
* Offerings from vendors claiming to be THE answer for all my needs even when
they don't know what my needs may be.
* Endless extensive discussions from knowledgeable folk who tell me
Hi Dave:
Bright Path Solutions holds classes regularly in our North Carolina location
(structured and regular/unstructured FrameMaker). We also hold classes in
various cities throughout the US and Canada.
We also occassionally hold classes in conjunction with organizations like
the Society for
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I'd like to point out that structured Frame does not
necessarily mean topic-based authoring, XML,
information mapping, or DITA. You can get lots of
benefit from it without any of those things.
Such as facilitating compliance with house style?
Milan
Hi Framers,
I've just installed the full WebWorks ePublisher suite (Pro, Express and
Automap). When I generate a project from a FM book, I don't get any
styles (Paragraph, Character, etc.) in the Style Designer, in ePublisher
Pro. I only get the [Prototype] value. My other colleagues, with
--- John Sgammato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
But the point remains that the best way to prepare
depends greatly on what your goals and objectives
are. Just as one example, if you are not planning to
adopt topic-oriented authoring and topic-level
reuse, then spending time learning about DITA
snipSuch as facilitating compliance with house style? /snip
Yes. It is much more difficult (some would say impossible) to use ad hoc
styling in structured Frame.
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Try WWP-users?
http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/wwp-users/
--- Nantel, Elise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
And by the way, I haven't found a specific
ePublisher/WebWorks user list
on Google. Do you know of one?
Guys,
A VP at my company wants to hire a person whose main job functions are
the following:
Translate technical writing docs to Korean
Train the Korean FSE's on the procedures in the docs.
He also wants the same position for Japanese.
Any idea the type of salary this person would command?
Let's see.
* Bilingual Korean-English (or Japanese-English)
* capable of translating proprietary technologies in optics, software
and systems integration designed to meet the process control
requirements of today’s advanced semiconductor technologies (I don't
think I even understand that in
unbidden from some dark corner of my mind, the memory
I'm looking for a man who plays alto and baritone, doubles on the clarinet,
and wears a size 37 suit.
I have no idea where I remember that from.
But whoever said it may be related to your VP...
From: [EMAIL
Fred said:
But the point remains that the best way to prepare depends greatly on
what your goals and objectives are.
... and went on to make several other excellent points.
John said:
I think the single biggest obstacle to my adoption of Structured
FrameMaker has been exactly this sort of
John wrote:
But all I get are:
* Offerings from vendors claiming to be THE answer for all my needs
even when they don't know what my needs may be.
Yes, that fits the profile of a vendor all right.
* Endless extensive discussions from knowledgeable folk who tell me
all the grand
Gillian,
Your VP doesn't want one those jobs done. There are more than enough
man-hours to be full-time at either one of those positions. So which
doesn't he want done, translation or training?
Robert McNamara insisted on making the F111 a triple mission
aircraft, reconnaissance, fighter,
I agree with the others, you are looking for 2 people.
One to handle the translation and one to train. Your trainer should
definitely be bilingual. Another thing that has not been mentioned is that
the person or persons translating the documentation has to understand the
technology that they are
I count about 2 1/2 people for each language -not counting the training.
The 1/2 is the type who has experience with translation projects and
knows the technology who dejargonizes the English original to ease
the translation process..
Then there is the translator in the home country
Milan Davidovic wrote:
> I'm looking for resources or advice on how to start
> working in unstructured Frame in anticipation of a
> move to Structured Frame.
>
> Let's imagine you're working in unstructured Frame,
> and that present circumstances prevent you from making
> the switch to
I can also walk on water and charge only $780/hour. As it happens, I have
used FM since v. 3.0 on Sun OpenLook, Solaris, HP-UX, Macintosh, and
Windows, wrote UNIX scripts to capture and automatically size screen
shots, have about 30 FM plug-ins, including IXgen, IndexRef, etc., and
have used
Yves (and Milan),
I'd like to point out that structured Frame does not necessarily mean
topic-based authoring, XML, information mapping, or DITA. You can get lots of
benefit from it without any of those things. I think that when you present
structured Frame in this light, you misrepresent the
--- Marcus Carr wrote:
> Why do you want to go to structured data?
Good question (and good thoughts on the question), but
that's a different topic. For the purposes of this
topic, let's imagine that the reasons are sound.
And in case I forget to mention it later, thanks for
all your answers.
Among other news, getting data into one structured
format makes it much easier to convert to others
later.
--- russ at weststreetconsulting.com wrote:
> "Paradigm shifts" and all those things the DITA camp
> seems to believe are a bit frightening to the
> average author, and for good reason. You
But the point remains that the best way to prepare
depends greatly on what your goals and objectives
are. Just as one example, if you are not planning
to adopt topic-oriented authoring and topic-level
reuse, then spending time learning about DITA
would be a digression rather than progress toward
--- "Ridder, Fred" wrote:
> But the point remains that the best way to prepare
> depends greatly on what your goals and objectives
> are.
Would it be possible to discuss "good" ways rather
than "best" ones and keep it all at a fairly high
level?
Or perhaps everything at the high level has
One reason many of us are strong supporters of "best
practices" is that it not only gets users working
faster, but provides a better introduction to the
complete theory of how to use a tool.
--- Milan Davidovic wrote:
> Would it be possible to discuss "good" ways rather
> than "best" ones and
Fred said:
But the point remains that the best way to prepare depends greatly on what your
goals and objectives are. Just as one example, if you are not planning to adopt
topic-oriented authoring and topic-level reuse, then spending time learning
about DITA would be a digression rather than
Morning Dave,
If you mean the Chicago area of the Great Lakes, you might take a look at
http://www.ledet.com/training/software/adobe/framemaker/ . Never used the
organization, but with our prior FrameMaker trainer gone I was looking the
other day and found this group.
Best,
Denise L.
I agree - I do not need to know THE answer; I need to know AN answer that will
do the trick.
But all I get are:
* Offerings from vendors claiming to be THE answer for all my needs even when
they don't know what my needs may be.
* Endless extensive discussions from knowledgeable folk who tell me
Hi Dave:
Bright Path Solutions holds classes regularly in our North Carolina location
(structured and regular/unstructured FrameMaker). We also hold classes in
various cities throughout the US and Canada.
We also occassionally hold classes in conjunction with organizations like
the Society for
--- russ at weststreetconsulting.com wrote:
> I'd like to point out that structured Frame does not
> necessarily mean topic-based authoring, XML,
> information mapping, or DITA. You can get lots of
> benefit from it without any of those things.
Such as facilitating compliance with house style?
Hi Framers,
I've just installed the full WebWorks ePublisher suite (Pro, Express and
Automap). When I generate a project from a FM book, I don't get any
styles (Paragraph, Character, etc.) in the Style Designer, in ePublisher
Pro. I only get the [Prototype] value. My other colleagues, with
--- John Sgammato wrote:
> But the point remains that the best way to prepare
> depends greatly on what your goals and objectives
> are. Just as one example, if you are not planning to
> adopt topic-oriented authoring and topic-level
> reuse, then spending time learning about DITA would
> be a
Such as facilitating compliance with house style?
Yes. It is much more difficult (some would say impossible) to use ad hoc
styling in structured Frame.
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From:
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Try WWP-users?
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--- "Nantel, Elise" wrote:
> And by the way, I haven't found a specific
> ePublisher/WebWorks user list
> on Google. Do you know of one?
Guys,
A VP at my company wants to hire a person whose main job functions are
the following:
Translate technical writing docs to Korean
Train the Korean FSE's on the procedures in the docs.
He also wants the same position for Japanese.
Any idea the type of salary this person would command? Know
Let's see.
* Bilingual Korean-English (or Japanese-English)
* capable of translating "proprietary technologies in optics, software
and systems integration designed to meet the process control
requirements of today?s advanced semiconductor technologies" (I don't
think I even understand that in
unbidden from some dark corner of my mind, the memory
"I'm looking for a man who plays alto and baritone, doubles on the clarinet,
and wears a size 37 suit."
I have no idea where I remember that from.
But whoever said it may be related to your VP...
From:
Gillian,
Your VP doesn't want one those jobs done. There are more than enough
man-hours to be full-time at either one of those positions. So which
doesn't he want done, translation or training?
Robert McNamara insisted on making the F111 a triple mission
aircraft, reconnaissance, fighter,
I count about 2 1/2 people for each language -not counting the training.
The 1/2 is the type who has experience with translation projects and
knows the technology who dejargonizes the English original to ease
the translation process..
Then there is the translator in the home country (Korea)
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