Framemaker classes?

2007-03-16 Thread Dave Kerschbaum
Hi all, I'll be leaving my current position as a lone writer in a couple weeks and want to make the transition as smooth as possible for the next person in this position. Does anyone know of any decent FrameMaker classes or other training that might be available to a company in the Great Lakes

Resend: Location for Job Opening: Long-Term Contract Publications Production

2007-03-16 Thread Anna Paganelli
I forgot to mention that this is for San Jose. And is actually a very nice and not-crazy-with-unrealistic-deadlines place to work. Anna -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Anna Paganelli Sent: Thursday, March 15, 2007 12:53 AM To:

RE: Job Opening: Long-Term Contract Publications Production

2007-03-16 Thread Anna Paganelli
Hi Hedley, I'm not sure why you responded so vehemently to this, though I do understand, and agree in principle, that contract part-time jobs can be and often are detrimental to the worker. That isn't always the case, though. Some people, myself included for the last 10-15 years, like to have a

Re: anticipating a move to Structured Frame

2007-03-16 Thread russ
Yves (and Milan), I'd like to point out that structured Frame does not necessarily mean topic-based authoring, XML, information mapping, or DITA. You can get lots of benefit from it without any of those things. I think that when you present structured Frame in this light, you misrepresent the

Re: anticipating a move to Structrued Frame

2007-03-16 Thread Milan Davidovic
--- Marcus Carr [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Why do you want to go to structured data? Good question (and good thoughts on the question), but that's a different topic. For the purposes of this topic, let's imagine that the reasons are sound. And in case I forget to mention it later, thanks for all

Re: anticipating a move to Structured Frame

2007-03-16 Thread Chris Borokowski
Among other news, getting data into one structured format makes it much easier to convert to others later. --- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Paradigm shifts and all those things the DITA camp seems to believe are a bit frightening to the average author, and for good reason. You can use structured

RE: anticipating a move to Structrued Frame

2007-03-16 Thread Ridder, Fred
But the point remains that the best way to prepare depends greatly on what your goals and objectives are. Just as one example, if you are not planning to adopt topic-oriented authoring and topic-level reuse, then spending time learning about DITA would be a digression rather than progress toward

RE: anticipating a move to Structrued Frame

2007-03-16 Thread Milan Davidovic
--- Ridder, Fred [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But the point remains that the best way to prepare depends greatly on what your goals and objectives are. Would it be possible to discuss good ways rather than best ones and keep it all at a fairly high level? Or perhaps everything at the high level

RE: anticipating a move to Structrued Frame

2007-03-16 Thread Chris Borokowski
One reason many of us are strong supporters of best practices is that it not only gets users working faster, but provides a better introduction to the complete theory of how to use a tool. --- Milan Davidovic [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Would it be possible to discuss good ways rather than best

RE: anticipating a move to Structrued Frame

2007-03-16 Thread John Sgammato
Fred said: But the point remains that the best way to prepare depends greatly on what your goals and objectives are. Just as one example, if you are not planning to adopt topic-oriented authoring and topic-level reuse, then spending time learning about DITA would be a digression rather than

Re: Framemaker classes?

2007-03-16 Thread d . mossfritch
Morning Dave, If you mean the Chicago area of the Great Lakes, you might take a look at http://www.ledet.com/training/software/adobe/framemaker/ . Never used the organization, but with our prior FrameMaker trainer gone I was looking the other day and found this group. Best, Denise L.

RE: anticipating a move to Structrued Frame

2007-03-16 Thread John Sgammato
I agree - I do not need to know THE answer; I need to know AN answer that will do the trick. But all I get are: * Offerings from vendors claiming to be THE answer for all my needs even when they don't know what my needs may be. * Endless extensive discussions from knowledgeable folk who tell me

RE: Framemaker classes?

2007-03-16 Thread Sales at Bright Path
Hi Dave: Bright Path Solutions holds classes regularly in our North Carolina location (structured and regular/unstructured FrameMaker). We also hold classes in various cities throughout the US and Canada. We also occassionally hold classes in conjunction with organizations like the Society for

Re: anticipating a move to Structured Frame

2007-03-16 Thread Milan Davidovic
--- [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'd like to point out that structured Frame does not necessarily mean topic-based authoring, XML, information mapping, or DITA. You can get lots of benefit from it without any of those things. Such as facilitating compliance with house style? Milan

Styles not appearing in ePublisher

2007-03-16 Thread Nantel, Elise
Hi Framers, I've just installed the full WebWorks ePublisher suite (Pro, Express and Automap). When I generate a project from a FM book, I don't get any styles (Paragraph, Character, etc.) in the Style Designer, in ePublisher Pro. I only get the [Prototype] value. My other colleagues, with

RE: anticipating a move to Structrued Frame

2007-03-16 Thread Daniel Emory
--- John Sgammato [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But the point remains that the best way to prepare depends greatly on what your goals and objectives are. Just as one example, if you are not planning to adopt topic-oriented authoring and topic-level reuse, then spending time learning about DITA

RE: anticipating a move to Structured Frame

2007-03-16 Thread Mike Feimster
snipSuch as facilitating compliance with house style? /snip Yes. It is much more difficult (some would say impossible) to use ad hoc styling in structured Frame. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] rs.com] On Behalf Of Milan Davidovic Sent: Friday, March

Re: Styles not appearing in ePublisher

2007-03-16 Thread Chris Borokowski
Try WWP-users? http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/wwp-users/ --- Nantel, Elise [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And by the way, I haven't found a specific ePublisher/WebWorks user list on Google. Do you know of one?

Translation question

2007-03-16 Thread Gillian Flato
Guys, A VP at my company wants to hire a person whose main job functions are the following: Translate technical writing docs to Korean Train the Korean FSE's on the procedures in the docs. He also wants the same position for Japanese. Any idea the type of salary this person would command?

Re: Translation question

2007-03-16 Thread Sarah O'Keefe
Let's see. * Bilingual Korean-English (or Japanese-English) * capable of translating proprietary technologies in optics, software and systems integration designed to meet the process control requirements of today’s advanced semiconductor technologies (I don't think I even understand that in

RE: Translation question

2007-03-16 Thread John Sgammato
unbidden from some dark corner of my mind, the memory I'm looking for a man who plays alto and baritone, doubles on the clarinet, and wears a size 37 suit. I have no idea where I remember that from. But whoever said it may be related to your VP... From: [EMAIL

Re: anticipating a move to Structrued Frame

2007-03-16 Thread mcarr
Fred said: But the point remains that the best way to prepare depends greatly on what your goals and objectives are. ... and went on to make several other excellent points. John said: I think the single biggest obstacle to my adoption of Structured FrameMaker has been exactly this sort of

Re: anticipating a move to Structrued Frame

2007-03-16 Thread mcarr
John wrote: But all I get are: * Offerings from vendors claiming to be THE answer for all my needs even when they don't know what my needs may be. Yes, that fits the profile of a vendor all right. * Endless extensive discussions from knowledgeable folk who tell me all the grand

Re: Translation question

2007-03-16 Thread quills
Gillian, Your VP doesn't want one those jobs done. There are more than enough man-hours to be full-time at either one of those positions. So which doesn't he want done, translation or training? Robert McNamara insisted on making the F111 a triple mission aircraft, reconnaissance, fighter,

RE: Translation question

2007-03-16 Thread Ann Zdunczyk
I agree with the others, you are looking for 2 people. One to handle the translation and one to train. Your trainer should definitely be bilingual. Another thing that has not been mentioned is that the person or persons translating the documentation has to understand the technology that they are

Re: Translation question

2007-03-16 Thread Whites
I count about 2 1/2 people for each language -not counting the training. The 1/2 is the type who has experience with translation projects and knows the technology who dejargonizes the English original to ease the translation process.. Then there is the translator in the home country

anticipating a move to Structrued Frame

2007-03-16 Thread Marcus Carr
Milan Davidovic wrote: > I'm looking for resources or advice on how to start > working in unstructured Frame in anticipation of a > move to Structured Frame. > > Let's imagine you're working in unstructured Frame, > and that present circumstances prevent you from making > the switch to

Job Opening: Long-Term Contract Publications Production

2007-03-16 Thread hedley.fin...@myob.com
I can also walk on water and charge only $780/hour. As it happens, I have used FM since v. 3.0 on Sun OpenLook, Solaris, HP-UX, Macintosh, and Windows, wrote UNIX scripts to capture and automatically size screen shots, have about 30 FM plug-ins, including IXgen, IndexRef, etc., and have used

anticipating a move to Structured Frame

2007-03-16 Thread r...@weststreetconsulting.com
Yves (and Milan), I'd like to point out that structured Frame does not necessarily mean topic-based authoring, XML, information mapping, or DITA. You can get lots of benefit from it without any of those things. I think that when you present structured Frame in this light, you misrepresent the

anticipating a move to Structrued Frame

2007-03-16 Thread Milan Davidovic
--- Marcus Carr wrote: > Why do you want to go to structured data? Good question (and good thoughts on the question), but that's a different topic. For the purposes of this topic, let's imagine that the reasons are sound. And in case I forget to mention it later, thanks for all your answers.

anticipating a move to Structured Frame

2007-03-16 Thread Chris Borokowski
Among other news, getting data into one structured format makes it much easier to convert to others later. --- russ at weststreetconsulting.com wrote: > "Paradigm shifts" and all those things the DITA camp > seems to believe are a bit frightening to the > average author, and for good reason. You

anticipating a move to Structrued Frame

2007-03-16 Thread Ridder, Fred
But the point remains that the best way to prepare depends greatly on what your goals and objectives are. Just as one example, if you are not planning to adopt topic-oriented authoring and topic-level reuse, then spending time learning about DITA would be a digression rather than progress toward

anticipating a move to Structrued Frame

2007-03-16 Thread Milan Davidovic
--- "Ridder, Fred" wrote: > But the point remains that the best way to prepare > depends greatly on what your goals and objectives > are. Would it be possible to discuss "good" ways rather than "best" ones and keep it all at a fairly high level? Or perhaps everything at the high level has

anticipating a move to Structrued Frame

2007-03-16 Thread Chris Borokowski
One reason many of us are strong supporters of "best practices" is that it not only gets users working faster, but provides a better introduction to the complete theory of how to use a tool. --- Milan Davidovic wrote: > Would it be possible to discuss "good" ways rather > than "best" ones and

anticipating a move to Structrued Frame

2007-03-16 Thread John Sgammato
Fred said: But the point remains that the best way to prepare depends greatly on what your goals and objectives are. Just as one example, if you are not planning to adopt topic-oriented authoring and topic-level reuse, then spending time learning about DITA would be a digression rather than

Framemaker classes?

2007-03-16 Thread d.mossfri...@comcast.net
Morning Dave, If you mean the Chicago area of the Great Lakes, you might take a look at http://www.ledet.com/training/software/adobe/framemaker/ . Never used the organization, but with our prior FrameMaker trainer gone I was looking the other day and found this group. Best, Denise L.

anticipating a move to Structrued Frame

2007-03-16 Thread John Sgammato
I agree - I do not need to know THE answer; I need to know AN answer that will do the trick. But all I get are: * Offerings from vendors claiming to be THE answer for all my needs even when they don't know what my needs may be. * Endless extensive discussions from knowledgeable folk who tell me

Framemaker classes?

2007-03-16 Thread Sales@Bright Path
Hi Dave: Bright Path Solutions holds classes regularly in our North Carolina location (structured and regular/unstructured FrameMaker). We also hold classes in various cities throughout the US and Canada. We also occassionally hold classes in conjunction with organizations like the Society for

anticipating a move to Structured Frame

2007-03-16 Thread Milan Davidovic
--- russ at weststreetconsulting.com wrote: > I'd like to point out that structured Frame does not > necessarily mean topic-based authoring, XML, > information mapping, or DITA. You can get lots of > benefit from it without any of those things. Such as facilitating compliance with house style?

Styles not appearing in ePublisher

2007-03-16 Thread Nantel, Elise
Hi Framers, I've just installed the full WebWorks ePublisher suite (Pro, Express and Automap). When I generate a project from a FM book, I don't get any styles (Paragraph, Character, etc.) in the Style Designer, in ePublisher Pro. I only get the [Prototype] value. My other colleagues, with

anticipating a move to Structrued Frame

2007-03-16 Thread Daniel Emory
--- John Sgammato wrote: > But the point remains that the best way to prepare > depends greatly on what your goals and objectives > are. Just as one example, if you are not planning to > adopt topic-oriented authoring and topic-level > reuse, then spending time learning about DITA would > be a

anticipating a move to Structured Frame

2007-03-16 Thread Mike Feimster
Such as facilitating compliance with house style? Yes. It is much more difficult (some would say impossible) to use ad hoc styling in structured Frame. -Original Message- From: framers-bounces+mike.feimster=acstechnologies.com at lists.frameusers.com

Styles not appearing in ePublisher

2007-03-16 Thread Chris Borokowski
Try WWP-users? http://groups.yahoo.com/subscribe/wwp-users/ --- "Nantel, Elise" wrote: > And by the way, I haven't found a specific > ePublisher/WebWorks user list > on Google. Do you know of one?

Translation question

2007-03-16 Thread Gillian Flato
Guys, A VP at my company wants to hire a person whose main job functions are the following: Translate technical writing docs to Korean Train the Korean FSE's on the procedures in the docs. He also wants the same position for Japanese. Any idea the type of salary this person would command? Know

Translation question

2007-03-16 Thread Sarah O'Keefe
Let's see. * Bilingual Korean-English (or Japanese-English) * capable of translating "proprietary technologies in optics, software and systems integration designed to meet the process control requirements of today?s advanced semiconductor technologies" (I don't think I even understand that in

Translation question

2007-03-16 Thread John Sgammato
unbidden from some dark corner of my mind, the memory "I'm looking for a man who plays alto and baritone, doubles on the clarinet, and wears a size 37 suit." I have no idea where I remember that from. But whoever said it may be related to your VP... From:

Translation question

2007-03-16 Thread qui...@airmail.net
Gillian, Your VP doesn't want one those jobs done. There are more than enough man-hours to be full-time at either one of those positions. So which doesn't he want done, translation or training? Robert McNamara insisted on making the F111 a triple mission aircraft, reconnaissance, fighter,

Translation question

2007-03-16 Thread Whites
I count about 2 1/2 people for each language -not counting the training. The 1/2 is the type who has experience with translation projects and knows the technology who dejargonizes the English original to ease the translation process.. Then there is the translator in the home country (Korea)