RE: Documentum and FrameMaker advice

2007-08-09 Thread Gordon McLean
The Documentum documentation is pretty good, and I think they offer an end user guide that covers all the fundamentals as well as the basics of document management. Working with FrameMaker and DCTM is another thing altogether. There was an add-on application that helped but not sure if it's still

RE: Documentum and FrameMaker advice

2007-08-09 Thread Fred Ridder
You're probably thinking of FrameLink, which was, in fact, discontinued by its publisher (Datalogics) in early 2005. It was a great product for unstructured FrameMaker, but they never really addressed the XML capabilities of FM7.x and the introduction of multiple undo in FM7.2 broke the interface

Re: FrameMaker 8 Automatic Letter Spacing Broken?

2007-08-09 Thread Mike Wickham
Rick, Zip and send me a sample document so I can see what you see. Thanks. Will do. Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to

Heading with autonumber and square bullet

2007-08-09 Thread Brenda Waltermeyer
Using Windows XP, FrameMaker 7.2 I am trying to add a graphic or a square bullet in front of all my headings. Example: ? 1.1 Heading 1 Is there a way to do this in FrameMaker. I placed the square box on my references page and then tried to put it on my numbering line in the

RE: Documentum and FrameMaker advice

2007-08-09 Thread O'Laoghaire Micheal
Courtney, We used Documentum for a number of years at two previous incarnations of my company. As a matter of fact, when we were looking at Content Management Systems (back in 2000), the Documentation Department was one of the majot internal customers and ability to handle Frame docs and books

Re: Heading with autonumber and square bullet

2007-08-09 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Here's a previously posted reply: If you don't want to mess with character codes, set your desired bullet font as a character tag (for example, Dingbats, Wingdings) and use the character tag in the Automnumber field. This way you can merely use the letter that corresponds with the character in

RE: Heading with autonumber and square bullet

2007-08-09 Thread Lester C. Smalley
Are you working in structured or unstructured files? You don't say. If structured, you can define a prefix in the EDD that appears before the autonumber, for each heading element (if you have level rules, you may only have one to worry about). Apply appropriate format rules to this for the

Re: Heading with autonumber and square bullet

2007-08-09 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
One way of messing with this would be to add a run-in heading with Dingbats before the other headings. Only allow for it when setting the indents and tabulature of the headings. Bodvar On 8/9/07, Steve Rickaby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: At 17:14 +0200 9/8/07, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: If you don't

Re: Structured Frame Question

2007-08-09 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Nancy, Yes, but the book's structure may not be valid. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com Hi all, Is it possible to mix unstructured Frame files with structured Frame files in the same book? Thanks, Nancy Adams

Re: FrameMaker 8 Automatic Letter Spacing Broken?

2007-08-09 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Mike, Yes, I can verify this behavior with FrameMaker 8 on Windows XP. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com I posted this topic a couple of days ago with no response. Probably I made it too complicated. :) Can someone please tell me if they see the same problem

Re: Heading with autonumber and square bullet

2007-08-09 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 10:48 -0400 9/8/07, Brenda Waltermeyer wrote: That is exactly what it does (rubbish). I need it to be included in the numbering string not as a character style. I already have a character style called ZHeadNum in the Character Format under Numbering tab in the Paragraph designer. I need to

RE: Structured Frame Question

2007-08-09 Thread Mike Feimster
A work around for this is to create an element that can contain ANY content. For example, our Book element contains a TOC element. In the EDD, the TOC is a container with the General rule ANY. When you add the generated toc file to the book, it's tag is Book-Component. In the structure view for

Re: FrameMaker 8 Automatic Letter Spacing Broken?

2007-08-09 Thread Mike Wickham
Justification and Automatic Letter Spacing used to work together. Now, only one or the other works. Is anyone else seeing this? Yes, I can verify this behavior with FrameMaker 8 on Windows XP. Dang. I hope Adobe fixes this soon. The feature is important enough to me that I'm going to have to

Re: FM 6 + mif2go, or just FM 8?

2007-08-09 Thread Art Campbell
I think Mike's on track with his assessment; MIF2Go will give your more options as far as output goes, and also provide more tuning and design options within whatever format you choose. However, I think your goal of any browser would point you toward FM 8 for its better graphics handling and

Re: Structured Frame Question

2007-08-09 Thread Eric Dunn
On 8/9/07, Mike Feimster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Now the book is valid, even though the toc is an unstructured file. IMO, this is an unfortunate failing of FM or simply a missing feature. FM should be able to produce structured generated files. could be perhaps accomplished by adding element

RE: Structured Frame Question

2007-08-09 Thread Lester C. Smalley
On Thursday, August 09, 2007 12:39 PM, Eric Dunn wrote: | On 8/9/07, Mike Feimster [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | | Now the book is valid, even though the toc is an unstructured file. | | IMO, this is an unfortunate failing of FM or simply a missing feature. | | FM should be able to produce

FM8 - what are hyphens.xxx files for?

2007-08-09 Thread Klaus Daube
Dear all, especially the FM8 beta testers, Does anyone have an idea what the files hyphens.xxx in the directory dict are good for? They look very similar to *.dct (user.dct, site.dct, ...) files, but obviously are not case sensitive. Of course these files are coded in UTF-8.

FM8 welcome screen - link into nirwana

2007-08-09 Thread Klaus Daube
Dear all, The FM 8 Welcome screen (in effect a Flash file) with the message FrameMaker Complete Help-- this is a link Get the reference guides and manuals including Structured Documentation resources leads to a URL, which

first impressions of FrameMaker 8

2007-08-09 Thread Sarah O'Keefe
I've posted an overview of FrameMaker 8 with my impressions here: http://www.scriptorium.com/palimpsest/2007/08/framemaker-8-first-impressions.html Please feel free to comment on the blog or in this forum. The review itself is too long to post to the list in its entirety (and it has screen shots

How to Place an Anchored Frame in Center of Multi-column Page?

2007-08-09 Thread Mike Wickham
Is there any way to place an anchored frame in the center of a multi-column page? I use the two-cell table method for placing graphics and captions. The graphic is in the top cell and the caption in the bottom cell. It works great in-column, but I'd like to place a 1-column wide graphic and

List of Tables, List of Figures

2007-08-09 Thread Molly Keegan
Hi all, I'm trying to set up my two lists so that the figure number appears in front of the figure title (same with tables). I can't find a user variable for figure number or table number. Am I missing something? Can I create one myself? Molly Keegan | Objective Interface Systems, Inc.

Re: first impressions of FrameMaker 8

2007-08-09 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Thanks, Sarah, Lot of things here to support my suspicion that Adobe should have waited a couple of months with this release. We will probably see more than a couple of patches soon. This registering thing: does it mean that we no longer can install the same FM on two computers like the license

Re: List of Tables, List of Figures

2007-08-09 Thread Mike Wickham
I'm trying to set up my two lists so that the figure number appears in front of the figure title (same with tables). I can't find a user variable for figure number or table number. Am I missing something? Can I create one myself? Molly, Here's how I do it. 1. For my figure title paragraph

RE: List of Tables, List of Figures

2007-08-09 Thread Combs, Richard
Molly Keegan wrote: I'm trying to set up my two lists so that the figure number appears in front of the figure title (same with tables). I can't find a user variable for figure number or table number. Am I missing something? Can I create one myself? Assuming you're using autonumbered

RE: FM8 - what are hyphens.xxx files for?

2007-08-09 Thread Fred Ridder
I don't think this has changed in FrameMaker 8.0. In older versions, the hyphens.* files are the standard, editable language-specific hyphenation dictionaries as opposed to the spelling dictionaries (*.lex binary dictionaries, *.dct editable dictionaries), the binary hyphenation dictionaries

Re: first impressions of FrameMaker 8

2007-08-09 Thread Kenneth C. Benson
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: This registering thing: does it mean that we no longer can install the same FM on two computers like the license used to be (one at work or main computer and one at home or on a laptop, IIRC)? If the FM8 standalone license is consistent with licenses for other

RE: first impressions of FrameMaker 8

2007-08-09 Thread Dov Isaacs
The activation mechanism supports two activations such that you can use the software per the EULA. Note that if you need to move from a system to another (i.e., a third system), there is a function to DE-activate on a system which adds one back to your available activation count. That system does

Re: first impressions of FrameMaker 8

2007-08-09 Thread Bill Swallow
Yes, it works well in Acrobat. Or is this activation thing different from what was in Acrobat 8? On 8/9/07, Dov Isaacs [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The activation mechanism supports two activations such that you can use the software per the EULA. Note that if you need to move from a system to

RE: first impressions of FrameMaker 8

2007-08-09 Thread Dov Isaacs
Same - Dov -Original Message- From: Bill Swallow [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 3:29 PM To: Dov Isaacs Cc: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson; Sarah O'Keefe; [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: first impressions of FrameMaker 8 Yes, it works well in Acrobat. Or is

Re: List of Tables, List of Figures

2007-08-09 Thread Fred Ridder
Mike's explanation is basically correct, but I'd like to amplify and hopefully clarify a couple of issues. The letter label that Mike suggests using is officially called a series label. I'd *strenuously* suggest that you not adopt Mike's usage of thinking of the numbering series as a flow, since

Re: first impressions of FrameMaker 8

2007-08-09 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
Hi, Dov, et. al. Dov Isaacs wrote: The activation mechanism supports two activations such that you can use the software per the EULA. Note that if you need to move from a system to another (i.e., a third system), there is a function to DE-activate on a system which adds one back to your

RE: first impressions of FrameMaker 8

2007-08-09 Thread Dov Isaacs
If you in fact go over the two activation limit due to equipment failure, call the phone number that appears on your screen to talk with the Adobe Activation Center. They are very understanding about such situations and unless you abuse the privilege (such as having a hardware failure every week),

Re: first impressions of FrameMaker 8

2007-08-09 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
Hi, Dov. Dov Isaacs wrote: If you in fact go over the two activation limit due to equipment failure, call the phone number that appears on your screen to talk with the Adobe Activation Center. They are very understanding about such situations and unless you abuse the privilege (such as having a

RE: Frame Licenses

2007-08-09 Thread O'Laoghaire Micheal
I think Frame licenses allowed one install on a desktop and one on a laptop. It was not legal to install it on two desktops - even if one was at work and the other at home! Micheal O'Laoghaire KBS Documentation Comverse Inc. Cambridge, MA. -Original Message- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

TOC help in Framemaker 8

2007-08-09 Thread Catherine Christiaanse
hi all, I have just upgraded to Framemaker version 8 (from 7.2) and I am am having issues building one of my manuals. I have successfully updated and built two Framemaker manuals. Unfortunately, I am having no end of difficulty creating a third PFD using an identical method (Save AsPDF and

Documentum and FrameMaker advice

2007-08-09 Thread Gordon McLean
The Documentum documentation is pretty good, and I think they offer an end user guide that covers all the fundamentals as well as the basics of document management. Working with FrameMaker and DCTM is another thing altogether. There was an add-on application that helped but not sure if it's still

Documentum and FrameMaker advice

2007-08-09 Thread Mark Poston
Hi, If you are refering to FrameLink from Datalogics, my understanding is that this no longer exists. It's been a few years since I looked at FrameMaker and DCTM but I believe there used to be an ODMA client supplied with FrameMaker that could be installed to provide basic integration with DCTM.

Documentum and FrameMaker advice

2007-08-09 Thread Fred Ridder
You're probably thinking of FrameLink, which was, in fact, discontinued by its publisher (Datalogics) in early 2005. It was a great product for unstructured FrameMaker, but they never really addressed the XML capabilities of FM7.x and the introduction of multiple undo in FM7.2 broke the interface

FrameMaker 8 Automatic Letter Spacing Broken?

2007-08-09 Thread Mike Wickham
Rick, > Zip and send me a sample document so I can see what you see. Thanks. Will do. Mike Wickham

FM 6 + mif2go, or just FM 8?

2007-08-09 Thread ri...@inficon.com
I'm using FrameMaker 6.0p405 on a Windows XP Dell 450 workstation. I've just been asked to supply manuals in HTML. Currently, my deliverable is PDF. I am seriously considering mif2go for producing the HTML. But, before I invest the time and money, I wondering if FrameMaker 8 with its XML

Heading with autonumber and square bullet

2007-08-09 Thread Brenda Waltermeyer
Using Windows XP, FrameMaker 7.2 I am trying to add a graphic or a square bullet in front of all my headings. Example: ? 1.1 Heading 1 Is there a way to do this in FrameMaker. I placed the square box on my references page and then tried to put it on my numbering line in the

Documentum and FrameMaker advice

2007-08-09 Thread O'Laoghaire Micheal
Courtney, We used Documentum for a number of years at two previous incarnations of my company. As a matter of fact, when we were looking at Content Management Systems (back in 2000), the Documentation Department was one of the majot internal customers and ability to handle Frame docs and books

Heading with autonumber and square bullet

2007-08-09 Thread Shmuel Wolfson
Here's a previously posted reply: If you don't want to mess with character codes, set your desired bullet font as a character tag (for example, Dingbats, Wingdings) and use the character tag in the Automnumber field. This way you can merely use the letter that corresponds with the character in

Heading with autonumber and square bullet

2007-08-09 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 17:14 +0200 9/8/07, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: >If you don't want to mess with character codes, set your desired bullet >font as a character tag (for example, Dingbats, Wingdings) and use the >character tag in the Automnumber field. This way you can merely use the >letter that corresponds with the

Structured Frame Question

2007-08-09 Thread acti...@aol.com
Hi all, Is it possible to mix unstructured Frame files with structured Frame files in the same book? Thanks, Nancy Adams ** Get a sneak peek of the all-new AOL at http://discover.aol.com/memed/aolcom30tour

Heading with autonumber and square bullet

2007-08-09 Thread Lester C. Smalley
Are you working in structured or unstructured files? You don't say. If structured, you can define a prefix in the EDD that appears before the autonumber, for each heading element (if you have level rules, you may only have one to worry about). Apply appropriate format rules to this for the

Heading with autonumber and square bullet

2007-08-09 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
One way of messing with this would be to add a run-in heading with Dingbats before the other headings. Only allow for it when setting the indents and tabulature of the headings. Bodvar On 8/9/07, Steve Rickaby wrote: > At 17:14 +0200 9/8/07, Shmuel Wolfson wrote: > > >If you don't want to mess

Structured Frame Question

2007-08-09 Thread Mark Poston
Yes! That's how you would add generated lists into a structured book HTH Mark Poston On 9/8/07 15:58, "ActionA at aol.com" wrote: > Hi all, > > Is it possible to mix unstructured Frame files with structured Frame files > in the same book? > > Thanks, > Nancy Adams > > > >

Structured Frame Question

2007-08-09 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Nancy, Yes, but the book's structure may not be valid. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com > Hi all, > > Is it possible to mix unstructured Frame files with structured Frame files > in the same book? > > Thanks, > Nancy Adams

FrameMaker 8 Automatic Letter Spacing Broken?

2007-08-09 Thread Rick Quatro
Hi Mike, Yes, I can verify this behavior with FrameMaker 8 on Windows XP. Rick Quatro Carmen Publishing 585-659-8267 www.frameexpert.com >I posted this topic a couple of days ago with no response. Probably I made >it too complicated. :) Can someone please tell me if they see the same >problem

Heading with autonumber and square bullet

2007-08-09 Thread Steve Rickaby
At 10:48 -0400 9/8/07, Brenda Waltermeyer wrote: >That is exactly what it does (rubbish). I need it to be included in the >numbering string not as a character style. I already have a character style >called ZHeadNum in the Character Format under Numbering tab in the Paragraph >designer. I need to

Structured Frame Question

2007-08-09 Thread Mike Feimster
A work around for this is to create an element that can contain ANY content. For example, our element contains a element. In the EDD, the is a container with the General rule . When you add the generated toc file to the book, it's tag is Book-Component. In the structure view for the book

FrameMaker 8 Automatic Letter Spacing Broken?

2007-08-09 Thread Mike Wickham
>> Justification and Automatic Letter Spacing used to work together. Now, >> only one or the other works. Is anyone else seeing this? > Yes, I can verify this behavior with FrameMaker 8 on Windows XP. Dang. I hope Adobe fixes this soon. The feature is important enough to me that I'm going to

FM 6 + mif2go, or just FM 8?

2007-08-09 Thread Mike Feimster
Richard, Yes, but It is possible to save a file as HTML from FM8 (or FM6 for that matter) without a tool or saving as XML, but it's unlikely that it will meet your needs. You can also use the free version of WebWorks that shiped with FM6, but you might find that limiting. If you upgrade to

FrameMaker 8 Automatic Letter Spacing Broken?

2007-08-09 Thread Daniel Emory
--- Mike Wickham wrote: > >> Justification and Automatic Letter Spacing used > to work together. Now, > >> only one or the other works. Is anyone else > seeing this? > > > Yes, I can verify this behavior with FrameMaker 8 > on Windows XP. > > Dang. I hope Adobe fixes this soon. The feature is

FM 6 + mif2go, or just FM 8?

2007-08-09 Thread Art Campbell
I think Mike's on track with his assessment; MIF2Go will give your more options as far as output goes, and also provide more tuning and design options within whatever format you choose. However, I think your goal of "any browser" would point you toward FM 8 for its better graphics handling and

Structured Frame Question

2007-08-09 Thread Eric Dunn
On 8/9/07, Mike Feimster wrote: > Now the book is valid, even > though the toc is an unstructured file. > IMO, this is an unfortunate failing of FM or simply a missing feature. FM should be able to produce structured generated files. could be perhaps accomplished by adding element information

Structured Frame Question

2007-08-09 Thread Lester C. Smalley
On Thursday, August 09, 2007 12:39 PM, Eric Dunn wrote: | On 8/9/07, Mike Feimster wrote: | | > Now the book is valid, even though the toc is an unstructured file. | | IMO, this is an unfortunate failing of FM or simply a missing feature. | | FM should be able to produce structured generated

first impressions of FrameMaker 8

2007-08-09 Thread Sarah O'Keefe
I've posted an overview of FrameMaker 8 with my impressions here: http://www.scriptorium.com/palimpsest/2007/08/framemaker-8-first-impressions.html Please feel free to comment on the blog or in this forum. The review itself is too long to post to the list in its entirety (and it has screen shots

How to Place an Anchored Frame in Center of Multi-column Page?

2007-08-09 Thread Mike Wickham
Is there any way to place an anchored frame in the center of a multi-column page? I use the two-cell table method for placing graphics and captions. The graphic is in the top cell and the caption in the bottom cell. It works great in-column, but I'd like to place a 1-column wide graphic and

Heading with autonumber and square bullet

2007-08-09 Thread Brenda Waltermeyer
Steve, That is exactly what it does (rubbish). I need it to be included in the numbering string not as a character style. I already have a character style called ZHeadNum in the Character Format under Numbering tab in the Paragraph designer. I need to include it some where for my Heading numbers.

List of Tables, List of Figures

2007-08-09 Thread Molly Keegan
Hi all, I'm trying to set up my two lists so that the figure number appears in front of the figure title (same with tables). I can't find a user variable for figure number or table number. Am I missing something? Can I create one myself? Molly Keegan | Objective Interface Systems, Inc.

first impressions of FrameMaker 8

2007-08-09 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Thanks, Sarah, Lot of things here to support my suspicion that Adobe should have waited a couple of months with this release. We will probably see more than a couple of patches soon. This registering thing: does it mean that we no longer can install the same FM on two computers like the license

List of Tables, List of Figures

2007-08-09 Thread Mike Wickham
> I'm trying to set up my two lists so that the figure number appears in > front > of the figure title (same with tables). I can't find a user variable for > figure number or table number. Am I missing something? Can I create one > myself? Molly, Here's how I do it. 1. For my figure title

List of Tables, List of Figures

2007-08-09 Thread Combs, Richard
Molly Keegan wrote: > I'm trying to set up my two lists so that the figure number > appears in front of the figure title (same with tables). I > can't find a user variable for figure number or table number. > Am I missing something? Can I create one myself? Assuming you're using

FM8 - what are hyphens.xxx files for?

2007-08-09 Thread Fred Ridder
I don't think this has changed in FrameMaker 8.0. In older versions, the hyphens.* files are the standard, editable language-specific hyphenation dictionaries as opposed to the spelling dictionaries (*.lex binary dictionaries, *.dct editable dictionaries), the binary hyphenation dictionaries

first impressions of FrameMaker 8

2007-08-09 Thread Kenneth C. Benson
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote: > This registering thing: does it mean that we no longer can install the > same FM on two computers like the license used to be (one at work or > main computer and one at home or on a laptop, IIRC)? If the FM8 standalone license is consistent with licenses for other

first impressions of FrameMaker 8

2007-08-09 Thread Dov Isaacs
The activation mechanism supports two activations such that you can use the software per the EULA. Note that if you need to move from a system to another (i.e., a third system), there is a function to DE-activate on a system which adds one back to your available activation count. That system does

first impressions of FrameMaker 8

2007-08-09 Thread Bill Swallow
Yes, it works well in Acrobat. Or is this activation thing different from what was in Acrobat 8? On 8/9/07, Dov Isaacs wrote: > The activation mechanism supports two activations such > that you can use the software per the EULA. Note that if > you need to move from a system to another (i.e., a

first impressions of FrameMaker 8

2007-08-09 Thread Dov Isaacs
Same - Dov > -Original Message- > From: Bill Swallow [mailto:techcommdood at gmail.com] > Sent: Thursday, August 09, 2007 3:29 PM > To: Dov Isaacs > Cc: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson; Sarah O'Keefe; framers at frameusers.com > Subject: Re: first impressions of FrameMaker 8 > > Yes, it

first impressions of FrameMaker 8

2007-08-09 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
Hi, Dov, et. al. Dov Isaacs wrote: > The activation mechanism supports two activations such > that you can use the software per the EULA. Note that if > you need to move from a system to another (i.e., a third > system), there is a function to DE-activate on a system > which adds one back to your

first impressions of FrameMaker 8

2007-08-09 Thread Dov Isaacs
If you in fact go over the two activation limit due to equipment failure, call the phone number that appears on your screen to talk with the Adobe Activation Center. They are very understanding about such situations and unless you abuse the privilege (such as having a hardware failure every week),

first impressions of FrameMaker 8

2007-08-09 Thread Syed Zaeem Hosain
Hi, Dov. Dov Isaacs wrote: > If you in fact go over the two activation limit due to > equipment failure, call the phone number that appears on > your screen to talk with the Adobe Activation Center. > They are very understanding about such situations and > unless you abuse the privilege (such as

Frame Licenses

2007-08-09 Thread O'Laoghaire Micheal
I think Frame licenses allowed one install on a desktop and one on a laptop. It was not legal to install it on two desktops - even if one was at work and the other at home! Micheal O'Laoghaire KBS Documentation Comverse Inc. Cambridge, MA. -Original Message- From:

TOC help in Framemaker 8

2007-08-09 Thread Catherine Christiaanse
hi all, I have just upgraded to Framemaker version 8 (from 7.2) and I am am having issues building one of my manuals. I have successfully updated and built two Framemaker manuals. Unfortunately, I am having no end of difficulty creating a third PFD using an identical method (Save As>PDF and