Sharon Burton, from MadCap, did a presentation at our last STC meeting. She
said that Blaze was for people who only did print publishing and Flare was
for print and help files etc.
This was one of the disconnects I had. Why only print? Who does only
print these days? Even FrameMaker out of
You'd be better off using Flare for that than Blaze.
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Hedley Finger
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Blaze the FrameMaker killer? Don't make me laugh.
P.S. But if I want an advanced XHTML editor for my web site, this
baby will do.
--
Bill Swallow
HATT List
Vendor Post
I've been at WritersUA and away from my personal email since Sunday. I got
back late last night. I'm the product manager for Blaze. (BTW - great
conference!)
Some clarifications: Blaze is the younger sister of Flare 4. If you need
complex print and online docs, then you want
Some clarifications: Blaze is the younger sister of Flare 4. If you need
complex print and online docs, then you want Flare 4. If you only need
printed output, then you want Blaze. Everything that's in Blaze will be in
Flare 4.
I really don't understand this, I'm not trying to be
Because some people don't want or need online docs. For example, one of my
former clients was a cash register manufacturer. You can buy their products
for about $100. There is no concept of online help for these products, as
they don't come with a computer. I delivered a PDF of the manual and they
FM.8.0, Windows XP
When using the Hypertext Command Open Document and adding the target file
name to the syntax, I get a file does not exist error message and the target
filename gets truncated. Is there a limit to the filename length?
___
You
I'd like to export my Frame book (easily) to one giant Word file, and I
haven't figured out how to do it other than one file at a time, then put
them back together by hand in Word.
I have many outside reviewers who need to review and add comments
electronically, and like it or not, Word is the
Mike,
The CGM import filter comes from another company (Itedo, I think). If
you search the Adobe website for CGM Graphics you should find a couple
of articles that will have a link to another site where you can download
the latest version, which might solve your problem.
Clint
Clint Owen
I am attempting to import CGM graphics from Unigraphics to Framemaker
v 7.2. Upon import, the graphics are scaled to about 10% of their
original size and changing the Framemaker import scale settings seems
to have little effect. Any suggestions?
Mike
You do need Acrobat Professional in order to save the PDF with
commenting enabled for Adobe Reader.
-Original Message-
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Tina Ricks
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 2:01 PM
To: 'Frame Users'
Subject: Export a FM book to single
Dear Framers,
I'm working on a fun project (for an equipment manufacturer) using Frame
to author structured files that may (for a time) be published to PDF as
well as to XML. The XML files will be checked into a CMS and delivered to
the web for dynamic publication based on metadata and/or search.
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:00:38 -0700, Tina Ricks [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
I'd like to export my Frame book (easily) to one giant Word file, and I
haven't figured out how to do it other than one file at a time, then put
them back together by hand in Word.
That's possible, but not a good idea.
You may want to see if MIF2Go will write a FM book file out as a
single .RTF file.
I know it'll process books, but I don't know what the output options are.
At the same time, you may want to make sure that your reviewers can
handle the file in Word, because it's large file / long doc handling
is
Hi Deirdre,
It seems odd that there is only one date no the Revisions Page. If only one
date is used I would have thought that it would appear on the title page only
and there would be no need for a Revisions Page. From what I have seen you
only have a Revisions Page to list revision dates,
Thanks for input everyone. It seems that buying Acrobat Pro for the comments
feature is the most stable and the cheapest answer, and my Word-loving
reviewers will have to live with it. If I give them the choice of reviewing
one PDF file with comments vs. 32 separate Word files, they'll choose the
At the risk of confusing the issue, there seems to be a little bit of
conflicting information out there as to what exactly is required to
allow reviews with Adobe Reader. From
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/acrrfaq.html:
Q. Can I mark up and review files in Adobe Reader?
A. Yes, if this
Michale O'Neill write (in part):
At the risk of confusing the issue, there seems to be a little bit of
conflicting information out there as to what exactly is required to
allow reviews with Adobe Reader. From
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/acrrfaq.html:
No real confusion except for
Sweet. Just wanted to make sure I didn’t get yelled at for suggesting the most
expensive option if cheaper alternatives existed.
-Michael
From: Fred Ridder [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:23 PM
To: Michael O'Neill; Tina Ricks;
If you want to create stand-alone PDFs that people can mark up with
Reader 8, yes, you do need Pro or 3D.
However, to make things a little less expensive, Standard delivers and
performs the shared review functionality that includes the ability for
reviewers to edit and comment with Reader, as
For a product that is supposedly Print oriented, HTML is a lousy
media to produce it in. There is no reason to use HTML. Even XHTML is
not the best route, nor is XML. While HTML and XHTML are presentation
based, they don't allow the same type of easy manipulation that
FrameMaker or even Word
Vendor post
Forgive me - these are straight questions. I really don't quite understand.
What's convoluted about getting printed output out of XML, HTML, or
XHTML topics
in Blaze?
You create topics, you define and assign style sheets to topics (you can also
have multiple style sheets in
leading ... kerning ... tracking ... ligatures ... this kinda stuff (and
more) is something you expect from print. HTML, even with the aid of
CSS, is not going to be able to give you the control of these that you
would get from an app designed for print.
Sharon Burton wrote:
Can you help me
In fact, we have these features and in fact you have the sort of control - and
in some cases, more control - you expect from an app designed for print. For
example, you also have short line control, missing from FrameMaker.
Really.
Quoting William Gaffga [EMAIL PROTECTED]:
leading ... kerning
Art Campbell wrote:
If you want to create stand-alone PDFs that people can mark up with
Reader 8, yes, you do need Pro or 3D.
However, to make things a little less expensive, Standard delivers and
performs the shared review functionality that includes the ability for
reviewers to edit
I think you're right, Fred.
I looked at a copy of Standard and saw that it had the entry and
assumed it worked the same way that Pro does. But I leaped to the
wrong conclusion.
Thanks,
Art
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Fred Ridder [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Art Campbell wrote:
If you
Sharon:
I concur with Bill. What I cannot understand is that this was trumpeted as a
FrameMaker killer yet its functionality falls far below. FM is very
powerful but
still needs a lot of work. For one, the presence of so many indexing add-ons
indicates that better indexing and index
Sharon:
At Friday, 21/03/2008, 11:07 AM;, you wrote:
you also have short line control, missing from FrameMaker.
Is that the same as widows and orphans? Or is it when a small word,
say all, turns over onto a new line at the end of a paragraph? If
the latter, in FM most people just put a
Blaze the FrameMaker killer? Don't make me laugh.
What about a named style for everything? What about smart
cross-references? What about variables? What about advanced search
and replace for anything? What about diagnostic reports?
XHTML, not even XML. No DITA.
Adobe will be able to
You'd be better off using Flare for that than Blaze.
On Wed, Mar 19, 2008 at 6:54 PM, Hedley Finger
wrote:
>
> Blaze the FrameMaker killer? Don't make me laugh.
>
> P.S. But if I want an advanced XHTML editor for my web site, this
> baby will do.
--
Bill Swallow
HATT List Owner
WWP-Users
Vendor Post
I've been at WritersUA and away from my personal email since Sunday. I got
back late last night. I'm the product manager for Blaze. (BTW - great
conference!)
Some clarifications: Blaze is the younger sister of Flare 4. If you need
complex print and online docs, then you want
> Some clarifications: Blaze is the younger sister of Flare 4. If you need
> complex print and online docs, then you want Flare 4. If you only need
> printed output, then you want Blaze. Everything that's in Blaze will be in
> Flare 4.
I really don't understand this, I'm not trying to be
Because some people don't want or need online docs. For example, one of my
former clients was a cash register manufacturer. You can buy their products
for about $100. There is no concept of online help for these products, as
they don't come with a computer. I delivered a PDF of the manual and they
FM.8.0, Windows XP
When using the Hypertext Command "Open Document" and adding the target file
name to the syntax, I get a "file does not exist error message" and the target
filename gets truncated. Is there a limit to the filename length?
Are you using forward slashes in the file path? You need to use forward
slashes instead of back slashes.
Rick Quatro
Carmen Publishing
585-659-8267
www.frameexpert.com
> FM.8.0, Windows XP
>
>
>
> When using the Hypertext Command "Open Document" and adding the target
> file name to the
I'd like to export my Frame book (easily) to one giant Word file, and I
haven't figured out how to do it other than one file at a time, then put
them back together by hand in Word.
I have many outside reviewers who need to review and add comments
electronically, and like it or not, Word is the
I am attempting to import CGM graphics from Unigraphics to Framemaker
v 7.2. Upon import, the graphics are scaled to about 10% of their
original size and changing the Framemaker import scale settings seems
to have little effect. Any suggestions?
Mike
You do need Acrobat Professional in order to save the PDF with
commenting enabled for Adobe Reader.
-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Tina Ricks
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 2:01 PM
To: 'Frame
Mike,
The CGM import filter comes from another company (Itedo, I think). If
you search the Adobe website for "CGM Graphics" you should find a couple
of articles that will have a link to another site where you can download
the latest version, which might solve your problem.
Clint
Clint Owen
Dear Framers,
I'm working on a fun project (for an equipment manufacturer) using Frame
to author structured files that may (for a time) be published to PDF as
well as to XML. The XML files will be checked into a CMS and delivered to
the web for dynamic publication based on metadata and/or search.
On Thu, 20 Mar 2008 12:00:38 -0700, "Tina Ricks"
wrote:
>I'd like to export my Frame book (easily) to one giant Word file, and I
>haven't figured out how to do it other than one file at a time, then put
>them back together by hand in Word.
That's possible, but not a good idea. Word has
You may want to see if MIF2Go will write a FM book file out as a
single .RTF file.
I know it'll process books, but I don't know what the output options are.
At the same time, you may want to make sure that your reviewers can
handle the file in Word, because it's large file / long doc handling
is
Thanks for input everyone. It seems that buying Acrobat Pro for the comments
feature is the most stable and the cheapest answer, and my Word-loving
reviewers will have to live with it. If I give them the choice of reviewing
one PDF file with comments vs. 32 separate Word files, they'll choose the
At the risk of confusing the issue, there seems to be a little bit of
conflicting information out there as to what exactly is required to
allow reviews with Adobe Reader. From
http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/acrrfaq.html:
Q. Can I mark up and review files in Adobe Reader?
A. Yes, if this
Michale O'Neill write (in part):
> At the risk of confusing the issue, there seems to be a little bit of
> conflicting information out there as to what exactly is required to
> allow reviews with Adobe Reader. From
> http://www.adobe.com/products/acrobat/acrrfaq.html:
No real confusion except
Sweet. Just wanted to make sure I didn?t get yelled at for suggesting the most
expensive option if cheaper alternatives existed.
-Michael
From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, March 20, 2008 5:23 PM
To: Michael O'Neill; Tina
If you want to create stand-alone PDFs that people can mark up with
Reader 8, yes, you do need Pro or 3D.
However, to make things a little less expensive, Standard delivers and
performs the shared review functionality that includes the ability for
reviewers to edit and comment with Reader, as
For a product that is supposedly Print oriented, HTML is a lousy
media to produce it in. There is no reason to use HTML. Even XHTML is
not the best route, nor is XML. While HTML and XHTML are presentation
based, they don't allow the same type of easy manipulation that
FrameMaker or even Word
Vendor post
Forgive me - these are straight questions. I really don't quite understand.
What's convoluted about getting printed output out of XML, HTML, or
XHTML topics
in Blaze?
You create topics, you define and assign style sheets to topics (you can also
have multiple style sheets in
leading ... kerning ... tracking ... ligatures ... this kinda stuff (and
more) is something you expect from "print". HTML, even with the aid of
CSS, is not going to be able to give you the control of these that you
would get from an app designed for "print".
Sharon Burton wrote:
> Can you help
In fact, we have these features and in fact you have the sort of control - and
in some cases, more control - you expect from an app designed for "print". For
example, you also have short line control, missing from FrameMaker.
Really.
Quoting William Gaffga :
> leading ... kerning ... tracking
Art Campbell wrote:
> If you want to create stand-alone PDFs that people can mark up with
> Reader 8, yes, you do need Pro or 3D.
>
> However, to make things a little less expensive, Standard delivers and
> performs the shared review functionality that includes the ability for
> reviewers to
I think you're right, Fred.
I looked at a copy of Standard and saw that it had the entry and
assumed it worked the same way that Pro does. But I leaped to the
wrong conclusion.
Thanks,
Art
On Thu, Mar 20, 2008 at 8:42 PM, Fred Ridder wrote:
>
> Art Campbell wrote:
>
>
>
> > If you want to
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