Re: Importing Multi Page Tiffs, How ??

2009-01-27 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
That's a stupid Engineering Department. Maybe they should learn something about engineering -- or just leave the company. ;-) Even Boeing, when they were distributing CGM graphic with some of their documentation around 1996, they had these sometimes bundled into one file to save space. They had

Re: FM9 show stoppers

2009-01-27 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand
Am 23.01.2009 um 12:20 schrieb Klaus Daube: The second one is a tough experience: Backspace has become a nightmare on my 3MHz machine with 4GB of RAM. I can not correct input in the usual manner, because i have typed to many times until the program reacts! Do I need to switch off UNDO

Re: Find and Replace Paragraph Format Feature

2009-01-27 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Hi Mark, You don't mention the amount of files involved. If the files involved are not too many, just changing the format name in the Pgf format catalog (or global change) should do the trick. Another option is to MIF the files and search/replace the format name in a text editor. A FrameScript

RE: Outline

2009-01-27 Thread David Spreadbury
Don, Sandybrooke software (http://www.sandybrook.com/) has an Outline tool add-on that works within Framemaker. Dave Spreadbury -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Donlad W. Spencer Sent: Monday, January

Re: Outline

2009-01-27 Thread Art Campbell
Someone (or a company) was playing with an idea that would assign different levels of a doc to a conditional text setting or series of settings, so you could hide or reveal the different levels, outline style. Script driven, I think. Possibly Framescript guru Rick Quatro... (Rick, was that you?),

RE: Outline

2009-01-27 Thread Etzel, Gary
FrameMaker already does have an outline view, but you need to be using structured FrameMaker to get it. In unstructured FrameMaker, there is absolutely no difference between a Heading1 and a Heading2, or a Heading2 and a Note. You may have it all organized in your mind, but FrameMaker knows

RE: Off List

2009-01-27 Thread John Sgammato
That was a quote from my German sales engineer describing the feeling of customers he knows. Whether he was exaggerating or not, I don't know, but it is a faithful report of what was said. I should have put everything from ignorant to order in quotes. My apologies.

Re: Outline

2009-01-27 Thread Hedley Finger
Don: As I develop my personally written book in FrameMaker 7.2, especially since I have learned to create hot key macros in the customization files, there is only one thing about MS Word that I miss – Outline View. Has anybody ever written a 3rd party program that offers something akin to

RE: Find and Replace Paragraph Format Feature

2009-01-27 Thread Eichelberger, Mark
Bodvar, It is hundreds of FM files. We did decide to go with a plugin to find and replace the paragraph tags. Thanks. Mark -Original Message- From: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [mailto:bod...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 6:17 AM To: Eichelberger, Mark Cc:

RE: Outline

2009-01-27 Thread quills
Exactly! Gary has hit it on the head. What you are referring to doing, Hedley, is operating in a structured environment. Outlining is an early method used to provide structure to data. SGML and XML are later methods to do that. FrameMaker in Structured mode does it quite well. Scott At 8:29

RE: Automating the import of multi-page PDFs

2009-01-27 Thread Pinkham, Jim
Quite so, Richard, and no offense. I think the manual process you described yesterday with the anchored frame and the multiple copies would get the job done well, especially for docs that are usually no more than a few dozen pages. I only meant that I've never found a tool that would automate the

RE: Off List

2009-01-27 Thread John Sgammato
ignorant Americans will destroy our planet in short order was a quote from my German sales engineer. He had related to me the feeling among some of his customers about hardcopy documentation. It was not a political statement of any kind; it was an example of a factor to consider when deciding

RE: Outline

2009-01-27 Thread Combs, Richard
Hedley Finger wrote: Look for Enhance for FrameMaker by Sandybrook Software. You can create an outline, promote/demote, cut and paste, drag sections, etc. and it all works with the paragraph styles you have currently designed and the virtual nesting of those heading style formats.

Re: PDF Documentation

2009-01-27 Thread Shlomo Perets
Kelly, You wrote: Quick Survey: Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their computer display in preference to printing it for use? ... Other than personal preferences and the type of content, key factors are -- the extent to which the PDF is screen friendly (typography,

Frame 9: improved CMYK

2009-01-27 Thread Mike H
Hmm - what does the 'improved CMYK support' in Frame 9 entail? MY CMYK colour definitions (Pantone Process) still get converted to RGB if I set the joboptions to, 'leave colour as is.' - And I just note that p. 446 of the manual still says that the default is CMYK - RGB conversion. However, the

Re: Outline

2009-01-27 Thread Terry Smith
Don Spencer wrote: Has anybody ever written a 3rd party program that offers something akin to Outline View? Would be nice. Yes! Enhance gives you an outline view of your FrameMaker document. It's wonderful for reorganizing large documents. In fact, I'd recommend the product just to help you

Re: Frame 9: improved CMYK

2009-01-27 Thread Art Campbell
Mike, There are a couple of threads about CMYK support on the Adobe User Forum for Frame. According to one of the moderators there (Arnis, who I'm not sure is on this list), who has played with this a bit: Yes, CMYK (and spot colours too) works when doing the Save As PDF (Adobe somehow manages to

Footnotes and paragraph formatting

2009-01-27 Thread Callie Bertsche
Does anyone know of a way to add footnotes in a FM document without disrupting the line spacing? Every time I add a footnote, it increases the line spacing just for the line that includes the footnote reference number. It's driving one of my product owners crazy, so I'm looking for a solution. We

Re: Footnotes and paragraph formatting

2009-01-27 Thread Art Campbell
In the paragraph format, check the Fixed Space checkbox. That turns off the extra space used by the superscript characters. Art Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson

Re: Footnotes and paragraph formatting

2009-01-27 Thread Mike Wickham
Does anyone know of a way to add footnotes in a FM document without disrupting the line spacing? Every time I add a footnote, it increases the line spacing just for the line that includes the footnote reference number. Click in the paragraph holding the footnote marker. Open the Paragraph

Still no Hebrew/Arabic?

2009-01-27 Thread Combs, Richard
I'm pretty certain FM9 still doesn't support right-to-left languages, but before giving someone a definitive answer, I thought I'd double-check with the list. I know this is a frequently-requested feature, and now that the code base has been rewritten and Unicode is supported, it should be

RE: Footnotes and paragraph formatting

2009-01-27 Thread Callie Bertsche
Thanks Art and others who replied! Such a great solution. It does drive my page count up (I wish there was also a way to make the footnote number itself not as super of a superscript in line with the text), but definitely a relief to easily fix the problem! How could I have missed that little

RE: PDF Documentation

2009-01-27 Thread Lea Rush
Sweet example of a screen-optimized manual, Shlomo. Thank you! _ Lea Rush Software and Documentation Specialist Astoria-Pacific International PO Box 830 Clackamas OR 97015 PH: 800-657-3010 FAX: 503-655-7367 -Original Message- From:

RE: PDF Documentation

2009-01-27 Thread Syed.Hosain
Both the Agilent examples are good demonstrations of how to do a screen-readable PDF. Very nice! The funniest part of this, though, is that I have the original printed version (of the AN-91-1 document only, not the second one) before the concept of PDF formats even existed! :) It was *totally*

FM9 Upgrade

2009-01-27 Thread Howard Rauch
I am currently using FM 7.0 and Windows XP Pro operating system. I am having a problem with setting up documents for offset printing for one of my clients. My responsibility is to set up the document in Frame and prepare PDF files with separations (using Distiller) for printing. I then turn 

TCS 2 Trial Download

2009-01-27 Thread Pinkham, Jim
For the full TCS 2, is the suite available only for trial via DVD, rather than download? That's what appears to be the case at adobe.com, but I thought the reality was otherwise. Am I misreading or simply not in the right place

RE: TCS 2 Trial Download

2009-01-27 Thread Owen, Clint
The trial download page on adobe.com lists all of the individual products, including FM 9.0, but you can only get TC2 on a DVD. The download size for FM 9.0 is given as 1000 MB, so maybe the suite is just too large. Also, every time I try to download FM 9.0 I get an error from my

Re: FM9 Upgrade

2009-01-27 Thread Alan Litchfield
Howard, Let's just say first that there is a lot of confusion about how to deal with RGB channels in print nearly ready pdfs. But you say you are able to output separations (two plates, I take it from your description - one spot and one black) so the plate makers should be able to convert any RGB

RE: FM9 Upgrade

2009-01-27 Thread Jacob Schäffer
Howard, It's possible to do what you want to do with our Publi PDF software. Although it's a quite expensive tool you may want to give it a try. There is a free 30-day live trial available including full e-mail support (which you *do* need to set-up Publi PDF for this task). See:

Re: FM9 Upgrade

2009-01-27 Thread Scott White
We get this exact same response with all but one printer we use, These are RGB you need to fix. I don't understand why they give us the runaround as they have the software and ability to take just about any rgb pdf and make the necessary plates for printing. I have to get on the phone with

RE: FM9 Upgrade

2009-01-27 Thread Jacob Schäffer
FM9 will undoubtedly do a generally more prepress-friendly job during Save as PDF operations. My tests so far documents huge improvements, but there are still unresolved issues. I'll drop a post when I've finished testing. Best regards / Med venlig hilsen Jacob Schäffer | Chief Developer

Re: FM9 Upgrade

2009-01-27 Thread Scott White
I just got this back from my printer. Hey Scott! Hope all are doing well - looks like you've got a winner! I ran your PDF through our RIP and there was no RGB conflicts at all - excellent! Good news. Scott White Media Production Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239

FM9 DITA integration

2009-01-27 Thread John Sgammato
I have been hoping FM9 would make it easier to get into DITA / Structured Authoring. In the online help, I found this helpful tidbit: FrameMaker 9 provides complete support for DITA v1.1. For more information on DITA integration with FrameMaker see the online manual Integrating DITA with Adobe

Re: Outline

2009-01-27 Thread Hedley Finger
Scott, Gary: What you are referring to doing, Hedley, is operating in a structured environment. You have misrepresented what I actually said. I have used the DITA XML schema and the DITA-FMx plug-in for FrameMaker to develop structured documentation. But it is certainly a far from trivial

Re: FM9 DITA integration

2009-01-27 Thread Scott Prentice
I don't think that there is anything in FM9 that makes it easier to get into DITA or structured authoring. It offers support for the DITA 1.1 specification, but migration is still the same effort that it has been in earlier versions. ...scott John Sgammato wrote: I have been hoping FM9

RE: Frame 9: improved CMYK

2009-01-27 Thread Reng, Winfried
Hi, Here is another post from Arnis Gubins from the Adobe FrameMaker forum: ... After extensive testing with his files and others, using imported PDFs with the new CMYK SaveAsPDF is broken from the get go. When using imported PDFs in FM, the CMYK SaveAsPDF option renders these imported PDFs as

FM9 show stoppers

2009-01-27 Thread Alan Litchfield
Kelly McDaniel wrote: > "A third great annoyance: > The new buttons are gray in normal state and coloured if hovered over." > > I thought that maybe I was too picky, but this bothers me, too. > Just about this, I thought that in 'normal' UI design terms a button is greyed out if it is *not*

Importing Multi Page Tiffs, How ??

2009-01-27 Thread Alan Litchfield
Multi-page tiffs are pretty common really. I remember replying to this, so I am not certain why it has come up again. But anyway I suggested opening the tiff in an application that supports multi-page tiffs (probably *not* Photoshop) and print the file to PDF (press-quality settings if you want

[Fwd: RE: Importing Multi Page Tiffs, How ??]

2009-01-27 Thread Alan Litchfield
OK. Leave the tiff. Don't delete it or change its name ;) Print it to PDF and use that by reference in your Frame document. When the tiff is updated, update the pdf. There are no other changes that need to be made to the file. Cheers Alan Richard Melanson wrote: > Thank you all very much for

Importing Multi Page Tiffs, How ??

2009-01-27 Thread Alan Litchfield
If you were on a Mac I would say to just use Preview ;) However on Windows, Corel products handle and write to Multi-page tiff (which is where I have had them produced from by various clients). Otherwise there are (and in all cases YMMV, of course): http://www.informatik.com/imagistik.html

Importing Multi Page Tiffs, How ??

2009-01-27 Thread Jacob Schäffer
Thanks for the brush-up, Alan. I stand corrected :-) Best regards / Med venlig hilsen Jacob Sch?ffer | Chief Developer Grafikhuset (House of Graphics) Paradis All? 22, Raml?se DK-3200 Helsinge, Denmark Phone: +45 4439 4400 Email: js at grafikhuset.dk Web:

Importing Multi Page Tiffs, How ??

2009-01-27 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
That's a stupid Engineering Department. Maybe they should learn something about engineering -- or just leave the company. ;-) Even Boeing, when they were distributing CGM graphic with some of their documentation around 1996, they had these sometimes bundled into one file to save space. They had

FM9 show stoppers

2009-01-27 Thread Michael Müller-Hillebrand
Am 23.01.2009 um 12:20 schrieb Klaus Daube: > The second one is a tough experience: > Backspace has become a nightmare on my 3MHz machine with 4GB of RAM. I > can not correct input in the usual manner, because i have typed to > many > times until the program reacts! Do I need to switch off UNDO

Find and Replace Paragraph Format Feature

2009-01-27 Thread Bodvar Bjorgvinsson
Hi Mark, You don't mention the amount of files involved. If the files involved are not too many, just changing the format name in the Pgf format catalog (or global change) should do the trick. Another option is to MIF the files and search/replace the format name in a text editor. A FrameScript

Outline

2009-01-27 Thread David Spreadbury
Don, Sandybrooke software (http://www.sandybrook.com/) has an Outline tool add-on that works within Framemaker. Dave Spreadbury -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Donlad W. Spencer Sent: Monday,

Outline

2009-01-27 Thread Art Campbell
Someone (or a company) was playing with an idea that would assign different levels of a doc to a conditional text setting or series of settings, so you could hide or reveal the different levels, outline style. Script driven, I think. Possibly Framescript guru Rick Quatro... (Rick, was that you?),

Outline

2009-01-27 Thread Etzel, Gary
FrameMaker already does have an "outline" view, but you need to be using structured FrameMaker to get it. In unstructured FrameMaker, there is absolutely no difference between a Heading1 and a Heading2, or a Heading2 and a Note. You may have it all organized in your mind, but FrameMaker knows

Off List

2009-01-27 Thread John Sgammato
That was a quote from my German sales engineer describing the feeling of customers he knows. Whether he was exaggerating or not, I don't know, but it is a faithful report of what was said. I should have put everything from "ignorant" to "order" in quotes. My apologies.

Outline

2009-01-27 Thread Hedley Finger
Don: > As I develop my personally written book in FrameMaker 7.2, especially since > I have learned to create hot key macros in the customization files, there is > only one thing about MS Word that I miss ? Outline View. > > Has anybody ever written a 3rd party program that offers something akin

Find and Replace Paragraph Format Feature

2009-01-27 Thread Eichelberger, Mark
Bodvar, It is hundreds of FM files. We did decide to go with a plugin to find and replace the paragraph tags. Thanks. Mark -Original Message- From: Bodvar Bjorgvinsson [mailto:bod...@gmail.com] Sent: Tuesday, January 27, 2009 6:17 AM To: Eichelberger, Mark Cc: framers at

Outline

2009-01-27 Thread qui...@airmail.net
Exactly! Gary has hit it on the head. What you are referring to doing, Hedley, is operating in a structured environment. Outlining is an early method used to provide structure to data. SGML and XML are later methods to do that. FrameMaker in Structured mode does it quite well. Scott At 8:29

Automating the import of multi-page PDFs

2009-01-27 Thread Pinkham, Jim
Quite so, Richard, and no offense. I think the manual process you described yesterday with the anchored frame and the multiple copies would get the job done well, especially for docs that are usually no more than a few dozen pages. I only meant that I've never found a tool that would automate the

Off List

2009-01-27 Thread John Sgammato
"ignorant Americans will destroy our planet in short order" was a quote from my German sales engineer. He had related to me the feeling among some of his customers about hardcopy documentation. It was not a political statement of any kind; it was an example of a factor to consider when deciding

Outline

2009-01-27 Thread Combs, Richard
Hedley Finger wrote: > Look for Enhance for FrameMaker by Sandybrook Software. You can create > an outline, promote/demote, cut and paste, drag sections, etc. and it > all works with the paragraph styles you have currently designed and the > virtual nesting of those heading style formats.

PDF Documentation

2009-01-27 Thread Shlomo Perets
Kelly, You wrote: >Quick Survey: > >Is it your experience that users view PDF documentation on their >computer display in preference to printing it for use? ... Other than personal preferences and the type of content, key factors are -- the extent to which the PDF is "screen friendly"

Frame 9: improved CMYK

2009-01-27 Thread Mike H
Hmm - what does the 'improved CMYK support' in Frame 9 entail? MY CMYK colour definitions (Pantone Process) still get converted to RGB if I set the joboptions to, 'leave colour as is.' - And I just note that p. 446 of the manual still says that the default is CMYK -> RGB conversion. However, the

Outline

2009-01-27 Thread Terry Smith
Don Spencer wrote: > Has anybody ever written a 3rd party program that offers something akin to > Outline View? Would be nice. Yes! Enhance gives you an outline view of your FrameMaker document. It's wonderful for reorganizing large documents. In fact, I'd recommend the product just to help you

Frame 9: improved CMYK

2009-01-27 Thread Art Campbell
Mike, There are a couple of threads about CMYK support on the Adobe User Forum for Frame. According to one of the moderators there (Arnis, who I'm not sure is on this list), who has played with this a bit: "Yes, CMYK (and spot colours too) works when doing the Save As PDF (Adobe somehow manages

Footnotes and paragraph formatting

2009-01-27 Thread Callie Bertsche
Does anyone know of a way to add footnotes in a FM document without disrupting the line spacing? Every time I add a footnote, it increases the line spacing just for the line that includes the footnote reference number. It's driving one of my product owners crazy, so I'm looking for a solution. We

Footnotes and paragraph formatting

2009-01-27 Thread Art Campbell
In the paragraph format, check the Fixed Space checkbox. That turns off the extra space used by the superscript characters. Art Art Campbell art.campbell at gmail.com "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson

Footnotes and paragraph formatting

2009-01-27 Thread Mike Wickham
> Does anyone know of a way to add footnotes in a FM document without > disrupting the line spacing? Every time I add a footnote, it increases > the line spacing just for the line that includes the footnote reference > number. Click in the paragraph holding the footnote marker. Open the

Still no Hebrew/Arabic?

2009-01-27 Thread Combs, Richard
I'm pretty certain FM9 still doesn't support right-to-left languages, but before giving someone a definitive answer, I thought I'd double-check with the list. I know this is a frequently-requested feature, and now that the code base has been rewritten and Unicode is supported, it should be

Footnotes and paragraph formatting

2009-01-27 Thread Callie Bertsche
Thanks Art and others who replied! Such a great solution. It does drive my page count up (I wish there was also a way to make the footnote number itself not as "super" of a superscript in line with the text), but definitely a relief to easily fix the problem! How could I have missed that little

PDF Documentation

2009-01-27 Thread Lea Rush
Sweet example of a screen-optimized manual, Shlomo. Thank you! _ Lea Rush Software and Documentation Specialist Astoria-Pacific International PO Box 830 Clackamas OR 97015 PH: 800-657-3010 FAX: 503-655-7367 > -Original Message- > From: framers-bounces at

PDF Documentation

2009-01-27 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
Both the Agilent examples are good demonstrations of how to do a screen-readable PDF. Very nice! The funniest part of this, though, is that I have the original printed version (of the AN-91-1 document only, not the second one) before the concept of PDF formats even existed! :) It was *totally*

FM9 Upgrade

2009-01-27 Thread Howard Rauch
I am currently using?FM 7.0?and Windows XP Pro operating system. I am having a problem with setting up?documents for offset printing for one of my clients. My responsibility?is to set up?the document in Frame and prepare PDF files with separations (using Distiller) for printing. I then

TCS 2 Trial Download

2009-01-27 Thread Pinkham, Jim
For the full TCS 2, is the suite available only for trial via DVD, rather than download? That's what appears to be the case at adobe.com, but I thought the reality was otherwise. Am I misreading or simply not in the right place

TCS 2 Trial Download

2009-01-27 Thread Owen, Clint
The trial download page on adobe.com lists all of the individual products, including FM 9.0, but you can only get TC2 on a DVD. The download size for FM 9.0 is given as 1000 MB, so maybe the suite is just too large. Also, every time I try to download FM 9.0 I get an error from my

FM9 Upgrade

2009-01-27 Thread Jacob Schäffer
Howard, It's possible to do what you want to do with our Publi PDF software. Although it's a quite expensive tool you may want to give it a try. There is a free 30-day live trial available including full e-mail support (which you *do* need to set-up Publi PDF for this task). See:

FM9 Upgrade

2009-01-27 Thread Scott White
We get this exact same response with all but one printer we use, "These are RGB you need to fix." I don't understand why they give us the runaround as they have the software and ability to take just about any rgb pdf and make the necessary plates for printing. I have to get on the phone with

FM9 Upgrade

2009-01-27 Thread Jacob Schäffer
FM9 will undoubtedly do a generally more prepress-friendly job during "Save as PDF" operations. My tests so far documents huge improvements, but there are still unresolved issues. I'll drop a post when I've finished testing. Best regards / Med venlig hilsen Jacob Sch?ffer | Chief Developer

FM9 Upgrade

2009-01-27 Thread Scott White
I just got this back from my printer. "Hey Scott! Hope all are doing well - looks like you've got a winner! I ran your PDF through our RIP and there was no RGB conflicts at all - excellent!" Good news. Scott White Media Production Manager Implementation Coordinator 210-704-8239 swhite at

FM9 DITA integration

2009-01-27 Thread John Sgammato
I have been hoping FM9 would make it easier to get into DITA / Structured Authoring. In the online help, I found this helpful tidbit: FrameMaker 9 provides complete support for DITA v1.1. For more information on DITA integration with FrameMaker see the online manual Integrating DITA with Adobe

FM9 DITA integration

2009-01-27 Thread Scott Prentice
I don't think that there is anything in FM9 that makes it easier to get into DITA or structured authoring. It offers support for the DITA 1.1 specification, but migration is still the same effort that it has been in earlier versions. ...scott John Sgammato wrote: > I have been hoping FM9

Ctrl-Alt-u shortcut bug

2009-01-27 Thread Klaus Daube
On 22 Jan 2009 at 11:12, Heidi Bailey wrote: > Has anyone seen or got a solution to the Ctrl-Alt-u shortcut bug? When I > use it, FM places a ? > > in front of the word following the selected text. IN FM8.0 p277 it's all OK, the shortcut sets the selection to UPPR CASE. - do you have another