I believe one or two people may have.
You may want to check the TCS User's group at
http://groups.google.com/group/TCS-Users?hl=en for details, tricks,
and traps. Smaller and more focused than Framers...
Cheers,
Art
Art Campbell
art.campb...@gmail.com
... In my opinion, there's
I'm using FrameMaker 7.1 in XP SP3.
All of a sudden, when I update my book, I'm getting error messages that say
condition indicator for FM8_Track_Changes_added is inconsistent.
Since I'm not using FM8, and FM7 does not have change tracking, I assume that
this is some recent addition that got
Hi Michael,
I do it all the time with the Tech Comm. Suite 2.0 - however if you
don't have that product I think you can import FM docs and books into
RH8. There are some tricks to it I would second Art's suggestion of
checking out the Frame Integration topics on the Adobe Forum - I get the
FM8_Track_Changes_added is the name of a condition in one or many of
your files. It has nothing to do with any updates. It's a condition
you or someone editing your files created and used. FrameMaker is
telling you that its visibility settings are inconsistently applied
throughout your book,
Hi Michael
Another manual method, perhaps easier than the one you describe, is:
1. Select the line of text.
2. Hold down Alt and user the left arrow key to move the whole line to the left
until the space is taken up.
You could perhaps semi-automate this by doing a find for that particular
Nancy Allison wrote:
I'm using FrameMaker 7.1 in XP SP3.
All of a sudden, when I update my book, I'm getting error messages that say
condition indicator for FM8_Track_Changes_added is inconsistent.
Since I'm not using FM8, and FM7 does not have change tracking, I assume
that this is
It's just a warning message that one or more component files in the
book have a Conditional text setting that is inconsistent with the
others. It's not a big deal.
I forget if you can apply Conditional text settings to all files in a
book in 7. If you can, select 'em all and do it. If not, pick
Thank you, Bill. You are of course completely correct!
Off to get my late-morning coffee . . . .
--Nancy
On Oct 1, 2009, Bill Swallow techcommd...@gmail.com wrote:
FM8_Track_Changes_added is the name of a condition in one or many of
your files. It has nothing to do with any updates. It's a
Thanks, Art.
Michael McGrail
-Original Message-
From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:19 AM
To: Michael McGrail
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Has anyone successfully converted a FM 9.0 Book to RoboHelp
8 . . .
I believe
Hi Jeff,
What is Tech Comm. Suite 2.0?
Do you recommend for me to purchase it?
Michael
-Original Message-
From: Jeff Coatsworth [mailto:jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:49 AM
To: Michael McGrail
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Has
I agree with your chronology of official releases, but I'm also
remembering a preview or proof of concept or something similar that
(*I think* -- I didn't record it in my diary) surfaced in the 94-95
time frame. I got a look at it because I was free-lancing for UNIX
World magazine at the time and
Never mind, the Tech Com. Suite is what I currently have from Adobe (I
just purchased it.). That great news.
-Original Message-
From: Michael McGrail
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 9:41 AM
To: 'Jeff Coatsworth'
Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Has anyone successfully
Frame and RoboHelp are both component parts of the TCS2.
http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/
The big advantage of the Suite over individual aps is that Adobe ads
come code and features so that moving documents and projects between
applications is easier than with
Excellent!
-Original Message-
From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 9:52 AM
To: Michael McGrail
Cc: Jeff Coatsworth; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Has anyone successfully converted a FM 9.0 Book to RoboHelp
8 . . .
Frame and
The Seventh Annual Conference on Professional Development will be held in
New Orleans on October 24th.
Choose from 60+ sessions and workshops on how to harness publishing
technologies, build your business, and more.
For example, Bernard will show how Adobe FrameMaker 9.0 can be used to
You're welcome! I'm off to get my early afternoon coffee... ;)
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Nancy Allison ma...@verizon.net wrote:
Thank you, Bill. You are of course completely correct!
Off to get my late-morning coffee . . . .
--Nancy
On Oct 1, 2009, Bill Swallow
Today seems to be my day for new, unexpected problems.
I have a List of Figures file. Some of the figure names are long and wrap to
two or three lines.
I see the leader dots just fine between the last word of the figure name and
the page number, online.
However, when I print, the leader dots
If you're using that trick that came up a few days ago, about
inserting extra tab stops in the Ref pages to generate a leader on
lines that wrap... do all the tab stops defined in the paragraph
tagLOF for the Figures have leadering configured?
Art Campbell
art.campb...@gmail.com
I have a client running windows XP, Frame 9 and she can't print to
postscript file.
She is using acrobat 8 professional so we didn't install the pdf
creator for Frame 9. She can create a pdf if she chooses save as pdf.
I've ensured she has no other versions of acrobat installed.
When she
That did it. In updating the file, I at some point imported paragraph formats
for the LOF tags that didn't have the extra tabs. Adding the extra tabs back in
solved the problem.
Thanks.
--Nancy
On Oct 1, 2009, Art Campbell art.campb...@gmail.com wrote:
If you're using that trick that came
On the Frame Print dialog box, is Print to File checked or not checked?
It should NOT be activated in order to automatically create a PDF. If
it is active, a PS file is created but it's not distilled -- you'd
have to Distill it manually.
Art Campbell
art.campb...@gmail.com
... In
We are selecting print to file. Yes we want a postscript file so we
can use Distiller.
Scott White
Media Production EBC Manager
Implementation Coordinator
210-704-8239
swh...@alamark.com
On Oct 1, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Art Campbell wrote:
On the Frame Print dialog box, is Print to File
Does FM print other files successfully?
Will it print a newly created trivial file?
Cheers
Alan
On 2/10/2009, at 8:08 AM, Scott White wrote:
I have a client running windows XP, Frame 9 and she can't print to
postscript file.
She is using acrobat 8 professional so we didn't install the pdf
So what's really happening is that the .ps file is not being created
when you activate the Print To File checkbox, correct?
If you de-activate the Print To File checkbox it so Distiller can
produce the PDF automatically, does it work? Does Distiller produce a
PDF?
Art
Art Campbell
Correct. the .ps file is not being created.
If we use the PDF creator it does not work. I do not have the PDF
creator installed with Distiller 9. If she saves as PDF it does.
She wants to use Acrobat 8 Professional and its distiller. She can
distill a .ps file created with InDesign.
Checking the Print to File switch is not a good idea when you want to
create PostScript files.
Instead, try to connect the printer instance to the FILE: port, restart
Framemaker and then print again.
Best regards / Med venlig hilsen
Jacob Schäffer | Chief Developer
I'm asking the question to determine if both your manual distilling
process and the automatic process are broken, or if one is working.
We've already determined that your manual process is broken.
From Frame, if you Print to the Adobe PDF logical printer (which
should be set as the system
Scott White wrote:
If we use the PDF creator it does not work. I do not have the PDF
creator
installed with Distiller 9. If she saves as PDF it does.
She wants to use Acrobat 8 Professional and its distiller. She can
distill
a .ps file created with InDesign.
There is no such thing as PDF
From Frame, if you Print to the Adobe PDF logical printer (which
should be set as the system default), and do not have the Print To
File checkbox in the Frame dialog box activated, does a PDF get
generated?
Does not get created.
Scott White
Media Production EBC Manager
Implementation
In whch case there is a problem in your file you are trying to print.
Possible/probable things to look for are graphics, especially malformed eps
graphics, corrupted links and cross references, etc.
When the ps process fails it shouild be producing a log file in the same
directory as that you
OK,
First, I would check the properties of the Adobe PDF logical printer
to make sure that it is attached to a File port. You can create a port
manually.
Next, I'd pull down the Help menu and select Repair Installation (I
think that's there in 8).
If that doesn't help, I'd remove Acrobat 8,
Framemaker has an issue with its communication with some printer port types
when, - and only when, and only in certain configurations - the Print to
File switch is checked. One symptom is that Framemaker seem to hang, which
it actually doesn't - it waits for a response from the printer port.
Thanks Art. I will look into that.
Scott White
Media Production EBC Manager
Implementation Coordinator
210-704-8239
swh...@alamark.com
On Oct 1, 2009, at 3:29 PM, Art Campbell wrote:
OK,
First, I would check the properties of the Adobe PDF logical printer
to make sure that it is
Scott White wrote:
From Frame, if you Print to the Adobe PDF logical printer (which
should be set as the system default), and do not have the Print To
File
checkbox in the Frame dialog box activated, does a PDF get generated?
Does not get created.
OK, try this:
1) Select File Print
I think we are getting some where. Let me check on this.
Scott White
Media Production EBC Manager
Implementation Coordinator
210-704-8239
swh...@alamark.com
On Oct 1, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Fred Ridder wrote:
Also, make sure that there really is a FILE: (all caps, with the
colon) port set
I'm using FrameMaker 7.1 in XP SP3.
All of a sudden, when I update my book, I'm getting error messages that say
"condition indicator for FM8_Track_Changes_added is inconsistent."
Since? I'm not using FM8, and FM7 does not have change tracking, I assume that
this is some recent addition that
Hi Michael,
I do it all the time with the Tech Comm. Suite 2.0 - however if you
don't have that product I think you can import FM docs and books into
RH8. There are some tricks to it & I would second Art's suggestion of
checking out the Frame Integration topics on the Adobe Forum - I get the
"FM8_Track_Changes_added" is the name of a condition in one or many of
your files. It has nothing to do with any updates. It's a condition
you or someone editing your files created and used. FrameMaker is
telling you that its visibility settings are inconsistently applied
throughout your book,
Hi Michael
Another manual method, perhaps easier than the one you describe, is:
1. Select the line of text.
2. Hold down Alt and user the left arrow key to move the whole line to the left
until the space is taken up.
You could perhaps semi-automate this by doing a find for that particular
Nancy Allison wrote:
> I'm using FrameMaker 7.1 in XP SP3.
>
> All of a sudden, when I update my book, I'm getting error messages that say
> "condition indicator for FM8_Track_Changes_added is inconsistent."
>
> Since? I'm not using FM8, and FM7 does not have change tracking, I assume
> that
It's just a warning message that one or more component files in the
book have a Conditional text setting that is inconsistent with the
others. It's not a big deal.
I forget if you can apply Conditional text settings to all files in a
book in 7. If you can, select 'em all and do it. If not, pick
Thank you, Bill. You are of course completely correct!
Off to get my late-morning coffee . . . .
--Nancy
On Oct 1, 2009, Bill Swallow wrote:
"FM8_Track_Changes_added" is the name of a condition in one or many of
your files. It has nothing to do with any updates. It's a condition
you or
Did you try setting it up with n-dashes instead of m? Because they're
smaller, you may get a smoother line because they can adjust to the
length in smaller increments...
Art Campbell
art.campbell at gmail.com
"... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52
Vincent
Thanks, Art.
Michael McGrail
-Original Message-
From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 7:19 AM
To: Michael McGrail
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Has anyone successfully converted a FM 9.0 Book to RoboHelp
8 . . .
I believe
Hi Jeff,
What is Tech Comm. Suite 2.0?
Do you recommend for me to purchase it?
Michael
-Original Message-
From: Jeff Coatsworth [mailto:jeff.coatswo...@jonassoftware.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 8:49 AM
To: Michael McGrail
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Has
I agree with your chronology of official releases, but I'm also
remembering a preview or proof of concept or something similar that
(*I think* -- I didn't record it in my diary) surfaced in the 94-95
time frame. I got a look at it because I was free-lancing for UNIX
World magazine at the time and
Never mind, the Tech Com. Suite is what I currently have from Adobe (I
just purchased it.). That great news.
-Original Message-
From: Michael McGrail
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 9:41 AM
To: 'Jeff Coatsworth'
Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: RE: Has anyone successfully
Frame and RoboHelp are both component parts of the TCS2.
http://www.adobe.com/products/technicalcommunicationsuite/
The big advantage of the Suite over individual aps is that Adobe ads
come code and features so that moving documents and projects between
applications is easier than with
Excellent!
-Original Message-
From: Art Campbell [mailto:art.campb...@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, October 01, 2009 9:52 AM
To: Michael McGrail
Cc: Jeff Coatsworth; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Has anyone successfully converted a FM 9.0 Book to RoboHelp
8 . . .
Frame and
The Seventh Annual Conference on Professional Development will be held in
New Orleans on October 24th.
Choose from 60+ sessions and workshops on how to harness publishing
technologies, build your business, and more.
For example, Bernard will show how Adobe FrameMaker 9.0 can be used to
You're welcome! I'm off to get my early afternoon coffee... ;)
On Thu, Oct 1, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Nancy Allison wrote:
> Thank you, Bill. You are of course completely correct!
>
> Off to get my late-morning coffee . . . .
>
> --Nancy
>
> On Oct 1, 2009, Bill Swallow wrote:
>
>
Today seems to be my day for new, unexpected problems.
I have a List of Figures file. Some of the figure names are long and wrap to
two or three lines.
I see the leader dots just fine between the last word of the figure name and
the page number, online.
However, when I print, the leader dots
If you're using that trick that came up a few days ago, about
inserting extra tab stops in the Ref pages to generate a leader on
lines that wrap... do all the tab stops defined in the paragraph
tagLOF for the Figures have leadering configured?
Art Campbell
art.campbell at
I have a client running windows XP, Frame 9 and she can't print to
postscript file.
She is using acrobat 8 professional so we didn't install the pdf
creator for Frame 9. She can create a pdf if she chooses save as pdf.
I've ensured she has no other versions of acrobat installed.
When she
That did it. In updating the file, I at some point imported paragraph formats
for the LOF tags that didn't have the extra tabs. Adding the extra tabs back in
solved the problem.
Thanks.
--Nancy
On Oct 1, 2009, Art Campbell wrote:
If you're using that trick that came up a few days ago,
On the Frame Print dialog box, is Print to File checked or not checked?
It should NOT be activated in order to automatically create a PDF. If
it is active, a PS file is created but it's not distilled -- you'd
have to Distill it manually.
Art Campbell
art.campbell at gmail.com
We are selecting print to file. Yes we want a postscript file so we
can use Distiller.
Scott White
Media Production & EBC Manager
Implementation Coordinator
210-704-8239
swhite at alamark.com
-- next part --
On Oct 1, 2009, at 2:12 PM, Art Campbell wrote:
> On the
So what's really happening is that the .ps file is not being created
when you activate the Print To File checkbox, correct?
If you de-activate the Print To File checkbox it so Distiller can
produce the PDF automatically, does it work? Does Distiller produce a
PDF?
Art
Art Campbell
Correct. the .ps file is not being created.
If we use the PDF creator it does not work. I do not have the PDF
creator installed with Distiller 9. If she saves as PDF it does.
She wants to use Acrobat 8 Professional and its distiller. She can
distill a .ps file created with InDesign.
Scott
Checking the "Print to File" switch is not a good idea when you want to
create PostScript files.
Instead, try to connect the printer instance to the FILE: port, restart
Framemaker and then print again.
Best regards / Med venlig hilsen
Jacob Sch?ffer? |? Chief Developer
I'm asking the question to determine if both your manual distilling
process and the automatic process are broken, or if one is working.
We've already determined that your manual process is broken.
>From Frame, if you Print to the Adobe PDF logical printer (which
should be set as the system
Scott White wrote:
> If we use the PDF creator it does not work. I do not have the PDF
creator
> installed with Distiller 9. If she saves as PDF it does.
> She wants to use Acrobat 8 Professional and its distiller. She can
distill
> a .ps file created with InDesign.
There is no such thing as
> From Frame, if you Print to the Adobe PDF logical printer (which
should be set as the system default), and do not have the Print To
File checkbox in the Frame dialog box activated, does a PDF get
generated?
Does not get created.
Scott White
Media Production & EBC Manager
Implementation
OK,
First, I would check the properties of the Adobe PDF logical printer
to make sure that it is attached to a File port. You can create a port
manually.
Next, I'd pull down the Help menu and select Repair Installation (I
think that's there in 8).
If that doesn't help, I'd remove Acrobat 8,
Framemaker has an issue with its communication with some printer port types
when, - and only when, and only in certain configurations - the Print to
File switch is checked. One symptom is that Framemaker seem to "hang", which
it actually doesn't - it waits for a response from the printer port.
Thanks Art. I will look into that.
Scott White
Media Production & EBC Manager
Implementation Coordinator
210-704-8239
swhite at alamark.com
-- next part --
On Oct 1, 2009, at 3:29 PM, Art Campbell wrote:
> OK,
>
> First, I would check the properties of the Adobe PDF
Also, make sure that there really is a FILE: (all caps, with the colon) port
set up on the system. I recall that there used to be a problem with one
generation of FrameMaker/Distiller installation where the FILE: port was being
deleted, and this broke the ability to print to file or to create
Scott White wrote:
> > From Frame, if you Print to the Adobe PDF logical printer (which
> should be set as the system default), and do not have the Print To
File
> checkbox in the Frame dialog box activated, does a PDF get generated?
>
>
> Does not get created.
OK, try this:
1) Select File >
I think we are getting some where. Let me check on this.
Scott White
Media Production & EBC Manager
Implementation Coordinator
210-704-8239
swhite at alamark.com
On Oct 1, 2009, at 3:48 PM, Fred Ridder wrote:
> Also, make sure that there really is a FILE: (all caps, with the
> colon)
I believe one or two people may have.
You may want to check the TCS User's group at
http://groups.google.com/group/TCS-Users?hl=en for details, tricks,
and traps. Smaller and more focused than Framers...
Cheers,
Art
Art Campbell
art.campbell at gmail.com
"... In my opinion,
Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote:
>
> I am waiting for FM for Linux! ;-)
There was one. V5.2(?). I still have a binary for it. It ran very well under X
and I used it with Windowmaker as well as Gnome.
It was quite good but Adobe decided against proceeding down that route because
there did not appear
Oops, no that was 5.5.6 :}
It ran on Redhat.
Alan
Alan Litchfield wrote:
>
> Bodvar Bjorgvinsson wrote:
>
>>
>> I am waiting for FM for Linux! ;-)
>
> There was one. V5.2(?). I still have a binary for it. It ran very well under X
> and I used it with Windowmaker as well as Gnome.
>
> It was
OK. I thought Adobe already owned it by then. But my memory is a bit out today
(obviously need more coffee).
Alan
Art Campbell wrote:
> Actually, that was about the point Frame Technology was edging close
> to running out of money Adobe bought 'em. I think 5.6 was a FT
> remnant, not a path
Hi Art, Les, and all,
Winfried off list also pointed out to me how the way to use em-dash or
en-dash here.
This solution is nearly good enough, There is one small problem: the
resulting leader does not quite begin at the left margin. I suppose
that this is because a whole number of dashes
You're thinking too hard. ;) TM is managing the translated content,
you just need to manage the files. One directory for each language.
Product
Version
Language
Deliverable
However you want to break it down from there... FM
directories, graphics, whatever.
On Wed,
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