$autorange issues
Hi guys: I am having trouble with the $autorange feature. I am using it in conjunction with the $paranum as is usual for bibliographies. I am inserting it in the right place, i.e. before $paranum in the correct reference page text flow. What I get in my index is Cornell, Carohn 383, 1717–1734 which looks OK but is wrong. Paragraph numbers from 1718 to 1733 are not authored by Cornell. The entry should read Cornell, Carohn 383, 1717, 1734 in other words three discrete entries here, autorange is creating a range where none exists. I have consulted the Adobe Framemaker manual but confess I am licked. Perhaps someone can shed some illumination on my mystery. There are many other mysteries in the reference pages which I should be able to understand but cannot, for example, why is there a page titled Index specifications which looks like it should be directing the construction of the index, but it is the last page with no heading which is really doing the direction. My entire project is ready to go to the publisher but here I am with no autorange Robert C.-H. Shell Extraordinary Professor of Historical Demography UWC Courier address: Room 3,23 Statistics department New Science Building University of Western Cape Modderdam Road Bellville 7535 Western Cape Republic of South Africa Airmail address: Prof. Robert C.-H. Shell Room 3,23 Statistics department New Science Building Private Bag X17 Bellville Western Cape 7535 Republic of South Africa E-mail addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: 021-959-2909 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: $autorange issues
Do paragraphs 1717 and 1734 occur on consecutive pages? If so, FrameMaker is behaving exactly as designed. The $autorange option is desinged to indicate a page range in the index whenever the same entry text appears in index markers that are on a consecutive series of *pages*. Your index may be built around paragraph numbers, but $autorange only works an a page- wise basis. Unless I'm mistaken, the only way you can get paragraph ranges to be indicated in your index is to explicitly code them with $startrange and $endrange building blocks in the appropriate index markers. -Fred Ridder From: Rob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: $autorange issues Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:43:42 +0200 Hi guys: I am having trouble with the $autorange feature. I am using it in conjunction with the $paranum as is usual for bibliographies. I am inserting it in the right place, i.e. before $paranum in the correct reference page text flow. What I get in my index is Cornell, Carohn 383, 17171734 which looks OK but is wrong. Paragraph numbers from 1718 to 1733 are not authored by Cornell. The entry should read Cornell, Carohn 383, 1717, 1734 in other words three discrete entries here, autorange is creating a range where none exists. I have consulted the Adobe Framemaker manual but confess I am licked. Perhaps someone can shed some illumination on my mystery. There are many other mysteries in the reference pages which I should be able to understand but cannot, for example, why is there a page titled Index specifications which looks like it should be directing the construction of the index, but it is the last page with no heading which is really doing the direction. My entire project is ready to go to the publisher but here I am with no autorange Robert C.-H. Shell Extraordinary Professor of Historical Demography UWC Courier address: Room 3,23 Statistics department New Science Building University of Western Cape Modderdam Road Bellville 7535 Western Cape Republic of South Africa Airmail address: Prof. Robert C.-H. Shell Room 3,23 Statistics department New Science Building Private Bag X17 Bellville Western Cape 7535 Republic of South Africa E-mail addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: 021-959-2909 _ Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more .then map the best route! http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2ss=yp.bars~yp.pizza~yp.movie%20theatercp=42.358996~-71.056691style=rlvl=13tilt=-90dir=0alt=-1000scene=950607encType=1FORM=MGAC01 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: $autorange issues
Rob Shell wrote: Hi guys: I am having trouble with the $autorange feature. I am using it in conjunction with the $paranum as is usual for bibliographies. I am inserting it in the right place, i.e. before $paranum in the correct reference page text flow. What I get in my index is Cornell, Carohn 383, 1717–1734 which looks OK but is wrong. Paragraph numbers from 1718 to 1733 are not authored by Cornell. The entry should read Cornell, Carohn 383, 1717, 1734 in other words three discrete entries here, autorange is creating a range where none exists. I haven't used $autorange myself, but my reading of the Help file suggests that you're confusing FM by using page-related $autorange for a pgf-related purpose. The Help says You can also have FrameMaker create page ranges for you automatically whenever the same marker text occurs on consecutive pages of a document. Note: page ranges, not paragraph ranges, and consecutive pages, not consecutive paragraphs. My guess is that paragraph 1734 is on the page following the page containing pgf 1717, and the marker text is the same. So $autorange inserts the hyphen and treats the pgf numbers as page numbers. IOW, I don't think you can use $autorange for your purpose. :( HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com In second mode, this utility also can provide You with independent ink monitor. This means, what even then You use ink freezer, utility show You always actual consumed ink quantity what will be identical to quantities without ink freezer. This is very useful feature for experienced refiller. -- Epson Inkjet Service Utility embedded Help ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: $autorange issues
I apologize in advance if I'm the bearer of bad news, but it just occurred to me that there is another way in which you may not be getting the desired results in your index. If you have two markers with the same entry text which appear on the same page, I suspect that FrameMaker will present those as a *single* entry (presumably with the paragraph number that corresponds to the first marker that FrameMaker encounters) rather than as two discrete entries with different paragraph numbers. FrameMaker is designed to collapse all identical index markers that appear on the same page into a single entry. As with the autorange issue, I think you're in trouble because FrameMaker's index-building logic is designed for page-based references rather than paragraph references. I suspect that you'd be able to do what you want by means of some sort of XSLT processing if you were using FrameMaker in structured mode, but I'm not sure I see any way around the page-based limitations in unstructured FrameMaker. -Fred Ridder From: Rob Shell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: $autorange issues Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:43:42 +0200 Hi guys: I am having trouble with the $autorange feature. I am using it in conjunction with the $paranum as is usual for bibliographies. I am inserting it in the right place, i.e. before $paranum in the correct reference page text flow. What I get in my index is Cornell, Carohn 383, 17171734 which looks OK but is wrong. Paragraph numbers from 1718 to 1733 are not authored by Cornell. The entry should read Cornell, Carohn 383, 1717, 1734 in other words three discrete entries here, autorange is creating a range where none exists. I have consulted the Adobe Framemaker manual but confess I am licked. Perhaps someone can shed some illumination on my mystery. There are many other mysteries in the reference pages which I should be able to understand but cannot, for example, why is there a page titled Index specifications which looks like it should be directing the construction of the index, but it is the last page with no heading which is really doing the direction. My entire project is ready to go to the publisher but here I am with no autorange Robert C.-H. Shell Extraordinary Professor of Historical Demography UWC Courier address: Room 3,23 Statistics department New Science Building University of Western Cape Modderdam Road Bellville 7535 Western Cape Republic of South Africa Airmail address: Prof. Robert C.-H. Shell Room 3,23 Statistics department New Science Building Private Bag X17 Bellville Western Cape 7535 Republic of South Africa E-mail addresses: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] Fax: 021-959-2909 _ See what youre getting into before you go there http://newlivehotmail.com/?ocid=TXT_TAGHM_migration_HM_viral_preview_0507 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
<$autorange> issues
Hi guys: I am having trouble with the <$autorange> feature. I am using it in conjunction with the <$paranum> as is usual for bibliographies. I am inserting it in the right place, i.e. before <$paranum> in the correct reference page text flow. What I get in my index is Cornell, Carohn 383, 1717?1734 which looks OK but is wrong. Paragraph numbers from 1718 to 1733 are not authored by Cornell. The entry should read Cornell, Carohn 383, 1717, 1734 in other words three discrete entries here, autorange is creating a range where none exists. I have consulted the Adobe Framemaker manual but confess I am licked. Perhaps someone can shed some illumination on my mystery. There are many other mysteries in the reference pages which I should be able to understand but cannot, for example, why is there a page titled "Index specifications" which looks like it should be directing the construction of the index, but it is the last page with no heading which is really doing the direction. My entire project is ready to go to the publisher but here I am with no autorange Robert C.-H. Shell Extraordinary Professor of Historical Demography UWC Courier address: Room 3,23 Statistics department New Science Building University of Western Cape Modderdam Road Bellville 7535 Western Cape Republic of South Africa Airmail address: Prof. Robert C.-H. Shell Room 3,23 Statistics department New Science Building Private Bag X17 Bellville Western Cape 7535 Republic of South Africa E-mail addresses: rshell at uwc.ac.za rshell at iafrica.com Fax: 021-959-2909
<$autorange> issues
Do paragraphs 1717 and 1734 occur on consecutive pages? If so, FrameMaker is behaving exactly as designed. The <$autorange> option is desinged to indicate a page range in the index whenever the same entry text appears in index markers that are on a consecutive series of *pages*. Your index may be built around paragraph numbers, but <$autorange> only works an a page- wise basis. Unless I'm mistaken, the only way you can get paragraph ranges to be indicated in your index is to explicitly code them with <$startrange> and <$endrange> building blocks in the appropriate index markers. -Fred Ridder >From: "Rob Shell" >To: >Subject: <$autorange> issues >Date: Wed, 29 Aug 2007 18:43:42 +0200 > >Hi guys: >I am having trouble with the <$autorange> feature. I am using it in >conjunction with the <$paranum> as is usual for bibliographies. > >I am inserting it in the right place, i.e. before <$paranum> in the correct >reference page text flow. > >What I get in my index is > >Cornell, Carohn 383, 1717?1734 > >which looks OK but is wrong. Paragraph numbers from 1718 to 1733 are not >authored by Cornell. The entry should read > >Cornell, Carohn 383, 1717, 1734 >in other words three discrete entries > >here, autorange is creating a range where none exists. > >I have consulted the Adobe Framemaker manual but confess I am licked. >Perhaps someone can shed some illumination on my mystery. > >There are many other mysteries in the reference pages which I should be >able to understand but cannot, for example, why is there a page titled >"Index specifications" which looks like it should be directing the >construction of the index, but it is the last page with no heading which is >really doing the direction. > >My entire project is ready to go to the publisher but here I am with no >autorange > > > > > >Robert C.-H. Shell >Extraordinary Professor of Historical Demography >UWC >Courier address: >Room 3,23 >Statistics department >New Science Building >University of Western Cape >Modderdam Road >Bellville >7535 >Western Cape >Republic of South Africa > >Airmail address: >Prof. Robert C.-H. Shell >Room 3,23 >Statistics department >New Science Building >Private Bag X17 >Bellville >Western Cape 7535 >Republic of South Africa >E-mail addresses: >rshell at uwc.ac.za >rshell at iafrica.com >Fax: 021-959-2909 _ Find a local pizza place, movie theater, and more?.then map the best route! http://maps.live.com/default.aspx?v=2=yp.bars~yp.pizza~yp.movie%20theater=42.358996~-71.056691=r=13=-90=0=-1000=950607=1=MGAC01
<$autorange> issues
Rob Shell wrote: > Hi guys: > I am having trouble with the <$autorange> feature. I am using it in > conjunction with the <$paranum> as is usual for bibliographies. > > I am inserting it in the right place, i.e. before <$paranum> in the > correct reference page text flow. > > What I get in my index is > > Cornell, Carohn 383, 1717?1734 > > which looks OK but is wrong. Paragraph numbers from 1718 to 1733 are not > authored by Cornell. The entry should read > > Cornell, Carohn 383, 1717, 1734 > in other words three discrete entries > > here, autorange is creating a range where none exists. > I haven't used <$autorange> myself, but my reading of the Help file suggests that you're confusing FM by using page-related <$autorange> for a pgf-related purpose. The Help says "You can also have FrameMaker create page ranges for you automatically whenever the same marker text occurs on consecutive pages of a document." Note: page ranges, not paragraph ranges, and consecutive pages, not consecutive paragraphs. My guess is that paragraph 1734 is on the page following the page containing pgf 1717, and the marker text is the same. So <$autorange> inserts the hyphen and treats the pgf numbers as page numbers. IOW, I don't think you can use <$autorange> for your purpose. :( HTH, -- Stuart Rogers Technical Communicator Phoenix Geophysics Limited Toronto, ON, Canada +1 (416) 491-7340 x 325 srogers phoenix-geophysics com "In second mode, this utility also can provide You with independent ink monitor. This means, what even then You use ink freezer, utility show You always actual consumed ink quantity what will be identical to quantities without ink freezer. This is very useful feature for experienced refiller." -- Epson Inkjet Service Utility embedded Help
