Re: [Framers] Tecom November 8-10, 2016 in Stuttgart

2016-09-20 Thread Stefan Gentz 
Hi Klaus,

Klaus Daube wrote on Monday 19 September 2016 at 10:19:
> Has anybody heard whether beta-testing has already started? On the website 
> www.adobeprerelease.com there is no notion of FrameMaker.
>
> I'm eager to know whether at least some of the issues from my long list 
> (presented during beta FM-13) have been addressed, for example:
> - Will the UI cope with high density monitors?
>- Awful dialogue for sorting in table revised?
>- German quotation marks no more a "punctuation error"?
>- …
>You may look at the full list at
>http://www.daube.ch/zz_tests/FM-future-requirements.pdf

You know that your list is “famous” in our team, don’t you? And we appreciate 
your work really a lot. You can be sure, that your feedback is not unheard … ☺

The beta has not started yet, but will start soon. I guess you will like what 
you will see soon ☺


Regards,
Stefan Gentz
Global Evangelist, Technical Communication
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Re: [Framers] Tecom November 8-10, 2016 in Stuttgart

2016-09-20 Thread Klaus Daube 
On 20 Sep 2016 at 4:40, Abhishek Jain wrote:

> Just wanted to add a note on Beta testing.
> 
> We will be rolling out a Pre-release for 2017 Release of FrameMaker in
> early October.

Abhishek, thank You very much for this clear statement!

Klaus

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Re: [Framers] Tecom November 8-10, 2016 in Stuttgart

2016-09-19 Thread Abhishek Jain 
Hello Everyone,



Just wanted to add a note on Beta testing.

We will be rolling out a Pre-release for 2017 Release of FrameMaker in early 
October.



In this release we have done numerous fixes to the interface and the problem 
with HD displays will also be resolved.

We are finishing things at our end and I'll be reaching out with more details 
in due course.



Regards,
Abhishek Jain

Product Manager
Adobe Technical Communication Products
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Date: Mon, 19 Sep 2016 10:19:46 +0200

From: "Klaus Daube" <fr...@daube.ch<mailto:fr...@daube.ch>>

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Subject: [Framers] Tecom November 8-10, 2016 in Stuttgart

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Dear all,

Reading in the conference programme I see this:

Tuesday, November 11: Adobe Systems GmbH:

Sneak Preview of the next FrameMaker Generation Stephan Gentz / Vivek Kumar



Has anybody heard whether beta-testing has already started? On the website 
www.adobeprerelease.com<http://www.adobeprerelease.com> there is no notion of 
FrameMaker.



I'm eager to know whether at least some of the issues from my long list 
(presented during beta FM-13) have been addressed, for example:

- Will the UI cope with high density monitors?

- Awful dialogue for sorting in table revised?

- German quotation marks no more a "punctuation error"?

- ...

You may look at the full list at

http://www.daube.ch/zz_tests/FM-future-requirements.pdf



While new fancy features are certainly welcome by many of the (younger) users, 
many old problems are overdue to be solved. And generally: a fault such the 
awful dialogue mentioned should not happen at all ...

While running my English FM with fmres.dll for the German interface (to check 
my Enhanced Tool bars ETB-FM13-de) I noticed that many fields - even constant 
text - are to short for the German text. Is this a false observation? 
Unfortunately the new dialogues in owlres.dll can not be checked without a 
complete FM-installation.



Klaus, FrameMaker court jester

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Docu + Design Daube; Sch?racher 11; CH-8053 Z?rich Technical documentation & 
consultancy; On-line and paper

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Re: [Framers] Tecom November 8-10, 2016 in Stuttgart

2016-09-19 Thread Craig Ede 
Many of us here in the U.S. think of letterbox as a way of viewing a movie that 
doesn't use the whole screen because the aspect ration is incorrect!


Craig



From: Framers <framers-bounces+craigede=hotmail@lists.frameusers.com> on 
behalf of Steve Rickaby <srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk>
Sent: Monday, September 19, 2016 3:16 PM
To: fr...@daube.ch; framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: [Framers] Tecom November 8-10, 2016 in Stuttgart

At 10:19 +0200 19/9/16, Klaus Daube wrote:

>- Awful dialogue for sorting in table revised?

Ouch - I see what you mean.

I am reminded of the joke about the gynecologist who painted his front hall 
through the letter-box.

It was all so much better in Mac FrameMaker 7.

[Patronizing note for US readers: 'letter-box' is not the same as 'mailbox'. A 
letter-box is a hole in your front door though which mail is pushed. It gives 
Brit and Euro dogs something to bark at ;-)]

--
Steve
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Re: [Framers] Tecom November 8-10, 2016 in Stuttgart

2016-09-19 Thread Steve Rickaby 
At 10:19 +0200 19/9/16, Klaus Daube wrote:

>- Awful dialogue for sorting in table revised?

Ouch - I see what you mean.

I am reminded of the joke about the gynecologist who painted his front hall 
through the letter-box.

It was all so much better in Mac FrameMaker 7.

[Patronizing note for US readers: 'letter-box' is not the same as 'mailbox'. A 
letter-box is a hole in your front door though which mail is pushed. It gives 
Brit and Euro dogs something to bark at ;-)]

-- 
Steve
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[Framers] Tecom November 8-10, 2016 in Stuttgart

2016-09-19 Thread Klaus Daube 
Dear all,
Reading in the conference programme I see this:
Tuesday, November 11: Adobe Systems GmbH:
Sneak Preview of the next FrameMaker Generation
Stephan Gentz / Vivek Kumar

Has anybody heard whether beta-testing has already started? On the website 
www.adobeprerelease.com there is no notion of FrameMaker.

I'm eager to know whether at least some of the issues from my long list 
(presented 
during beta FM-13) have been addressed, for example:
- Will the UI cope with high density monitors?
- Awful dialogue for sorting in table revised?
- German quotation marks no more a "punctuation error"?
- ...
You may look at the full list at 
http://www.daube.ch/zz_tests/FM-future-requirements.pdf

While new fancy features are certainly welcome by many of the (younger) users, 
many 
old problems are overdue to be solved. And generally: a fault such the awful 
dialogue 
mentioned should not happen at all ...
While running my English FM with fmres.dll for the German interface (to check 
my 
Enhanced Tool bars ETB-FM13-de) I noticed that many fields - even constant text 
- are 
to short for the German text. Is this a false observation? Unfortunately the 
new 
dialogues in owlres.dll can not be checked without a complete FM-installation. 

Klaus, FrameMaker court jester
~~
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Technical documentation & consultancy; On-line and paper
F: +41-44-422 86 25  E: d...@daube.ch  W: www.daube.ch

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