. Re: Adobe was hacked
I got an email from Adobe to say I'd been hacked. Good thing I don't use the same password for nearly all my online accounts, then! I thought. Ahem :) David *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. This email comes from a division of the Invensys Group, owned by Invensys plc, which is a company registered in England and Wales with its registered office at 3rd Floor, 40 Grosvenor Place, London, SW1X 7AW (Registered number 166023). For a list of European legal entities within the Invensys Group, please select the Legal Entities link at invensys.com. You may contact Invensys plc on +44 (0)20 3155 1200 or e-mail recept...@invensys.com. This e-mail and any attachments thereto may be subject to the terms of any agreements between Invensys (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates) and the recipient (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Adobe was hacked
I tend to agree with Robert - If someone steals your cash, it's gone. If someone makes a fraudulent transaction on your card, you just report it and the card issuer refunds it. It's a slight administrative nuisance, but it doesn't cost you anything. All you have to do is check your card statement each month for anything you don't recognise. David Message: 10 Date: Fri, 4 Oct 2013 16:42:07 -0700 From: Robert Lauriston rob...@lauriston.com To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Forum framers@lists.frameusers.com Subject: Re: Adobe was hacked Message-ID: can3yy4da8ijsv1kjbty+wyrvwpk6mtwaoctloyrzg5knueg...@mail.gmail.com Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 What different mechanisms? Except for TurboTax at Costco, I've been buying all my software online for over ten years. Most of it's not available through other channels. Credit card fraud's annoying since I have to get a new card and number two or three times a year, but online purchases are less of a risk than a restaurant or dry cleaner. This reminds me of the arguments people born in the 1920s make against using ATM machines. On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Alan T Litchfield a...@alphabyte.co.nz wrote: The increased threat is the adoption of subscription payments where previously different mechanisms were used to pay for this stuff. Now, much is online and therefore vulnerable. -- ___ You are currently subscribed to framers. To unsubscribe send a blank email to http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/listinfo/framers Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. End of framers Digest, Vol 96, Issue 5 ** *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. This email comes from a division of the Invensys Group, owned by Invensys plc, which is a company registered in England and Wales with its registered office at 3rd Floor, 40 Grosvenor Place, London, SW1X 7AW (Registered number 166023). For a list of European legal entities within the Invensys Group, please select the Legal Entities link at invensys.com. You may contact Invensys plc on +44 (0)20 3155 1200 or e-mail recept...@invensys.com. This e-mail and any attachments thereto may be subject to the terms of any agreements between Invensys (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates) and the recipient (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates). ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Adobe was hacked
Robert Lauriston wrote: You use a different password for every site, but are changing them all anyway because Adobe got hacked? That makes about as much sense as rekeying the locks in your house. I like wearing suspenders and a belt too. :) Seriously, I take my password settings as an important matter. If things go awry at one site, I prefer to change things them elsewhere. Not a big deal. Yes, they are different, but using certain tools, it is possible to generate them automatically and not worry about remembering them, etc. Z You use a different password for every site, but are changing them all anyway because Adobe got hacked? That makes about as much sense as rekeying the locks in your house. On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote: FWIW, I use different passwords on different sites, so I am not worried about my Adobe password being compromised. Regardless of which, I am changing things all over again everywhere - had to do this with the recent LinkedIn breach some months back (albeit no credit card involved there) - just doing it again now. Sigh. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Robert Lauriston wrote: > You use a different password for every site, but are changing them all anyway > because Adobe got hacked? That makes about as much sense as rekeying the > locks in your house. I like wearing suspenders and a belt too. :) Seriously, I take my password settings as an important matter. If things go awry at one site, I prefer to change things them elsewhere. Not a big deal. Yes, they are different, but using certain tools, it is possible to generate them automatically and not worry about remembering them, etc. Z > You use a different password for every site, but are changing them all anyway > because Adobe got hacked? That makes about as much sense as rekeying the > locks in your house. On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: > FWIW, I use different passwords on different sites, so I am not worried about > my Adobe password being compromised. Regardless of which, I am changing > things all over again everywhere - had to do this with the recent LinkedIn > breach some months back (albeit no credit card involved there) - just doing > it again now. Sigh.
Adobe was hacked
I tend to agree with Robert -
If someone steals your cash, it's gone.
If someone makes a fraudulent transaction on your card, you just report it and
the card issuer refunds it.
It's a slight administrative nuisance, but it doesn't cost you anything.
All you have to do is check your card statement each month for anything you
don't recognise.
David
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What different mechanisms? Except for TurboTax at Costco, I've been buying all
my software online for over ten years. Most of it's not available through other
channels.
Credit card fraud's annoying since I have to get a new card and number two or
three times a year, but online purchases are less of a risk than a restaurant
or dry cleaner.
This reminds me of the arguments people born in the 1920s make against using
ATM machines.
On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Alan T Litchfield
wrote:
> The increased threat is the adoption of subscription payments where
> previously different mechanisms were used to pay for this stuff. Now,
> much is online and therefore vulnerable.
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I got an email from Adobe to say I'd been hacked. "Good thing I don't use the same password for nearly all my online accounts, then!" I thought. Ahem :) David *** Confidentiality Notice: This e-mail, including any associated or attached files, is intended solely for the individual or entity to which it is addressed. This e-mail is confidential and may well also be legally privileged. If you have received it in error, you are on notice of its status. Please notify the sender immediately by reply e-mail and then delete this message from your system. Please do not copy it or use it for any purposes, or disclose its contents to any other person. This email comes from a division of the Invensys Group, owned by Invensys plc, which is a company registered in England and Wales with its registered office at 3rd Floor, 40 Grosvenor Place, London, SW1X 7AW (Registered number 166023). For a list of European legal entities within the Invensys Group, please select the Legal Entities link at invensys.com. You may contact Invensys plc on +44 (0)20 3155 1200 or e-mail reception at invensys.com. This e-mail and any attachments thereto may be subject to the terms of any agreements between Invensys (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates) and the recipient (and/or its subsidiaries and affiliates).
Re: Adobe was hacked
Thanks for the information, Tammy. Amazing that Adobe did not let us know. After resetting my password I logged in to verify that my information (product registrations) was still there. I was using Mozilla Nightly 64-bit. It told me I had no products registered. I contacted Adobe support, and they advised me to use a different browser. So I tried IE10 (64-bit) and they were all there. Just in case anyone else gets the same result. Regards. Roger Shuttleworth On 04/10/2013 4:44 PM, Tammy Van Boening wrote: All, I am sure that some of you have might have already seen this on MSNBC or the like today, but for those of you who have not - Adobe was hacked over two weeks ago and they are just now sending out the announcement to affected and possibly affected customers. Over 3 million accounts were impacted. You can google the topic and find many in depth articles about the situation. I figured that this might be some helpful information for those of you who weren't yet made aware of the situation. TVB Important Customer Security Alert Adobe Read online http://view.mail.adobesystems.com/?j=fec4167675610c7bm=fe9915737760037f76ls=fe4b1270776c0d747c1dl=ff971272s=fe641577756d007d7314jb=ff6317707cju= Adobe Important Customer Security Alert *To view this message in a language other than English, please click here http://www.adobe.com/go/cc-email.* We recently discovered that attackers illegally entered our network. The attackers may have obtained access to your Adobe ID and encrypted password. We currently have no indication that there has been unauthorized activity on your account. If you have placed an order with us, information such as your name, encrypted payment card number, and card expiration date also may have been accessed. We do not believe any decrypted card numbers were removed from our systems. To prevent unauthorized access to your account, we have reset your password. Please visit *www.adobe.com/go/passwordreset* to create a new password. We recommend that you also change your password on any website where you use the same user ID or password. As always, please be cautious when responding to any email seeking your personal information. We also recommend that you monitor your account for incidents of fraud and identity theft, including regularly reviewing your account statements and monitoring credit reports. If you discover any suspicious or unusual activity on your account or suspect identity theft or fraud, you should report it immediately to your bank. You will be receiving a letter from us shortly that provides more information on this matter. We deeply regret any inconvenience this may cause you. We value the trust of our customers and we will work aggressively to prevent these types of events from occurring in the future. If you have questions, you can learn more by visiting our Customer Alert page, which you will find here http://www.adobe.com/go/customer_alert. Adobe Customer Care Adobe, the Adobe logo and Adobe PDF logo are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Adobe Systems Incorporated in the United States and/or other countries. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. ©2013 Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as shutti...@gmail.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shuttie27%40gmail.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Adobe was hacked
Getting logins and passwords for a retail site doesn't necessarily allow you to get credit card information. Many sites display only the last four digits. On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (syed.hos...@aeris.net) syed.hos...@aeris.net wrote: I would also add that the Adobe Cloud model subscription *requires* us to keep a credit card on file with them for their monthly charge. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Syed Zaeem Hosain wrote: > I would also add that the Adobe Cloud model subscription *requires* us to > keep a credit card on file with them for their monthly charge. To which Robert Lauriston said: > Getting logins and passwords for a retail site doesn't necessarily allow you > to get credit card information. Many sites display only the last four digits. Yes, but not really my point. First, as Adobe mentioned, full credit card information (supposedly encrypted, but we do not know how strong an encryption) was also compromised on their site. Second, what if that login/password is used to post stupid stuff on Facebook or LinkedIn for example (if people use the same info at multiple places)? Could also delete things there and require time and effort to recreate. Third, as an example of what could happen, if I had used the same password on Amazon for example, a crook could easily buy products and ship them to a new address - my Amex card (now blocked, of course, till I get my new card!) is on file with them for purchases. FWIW, I use different passwords on different sites, so I am not worried about my Adobe password being compromised. Regardless of which, I am changing things all over again everywhere - had to do this with the recent LinkedIn breach some months back (albeit no credit card involved there) - just doing it again now. Sigh. Z
Adobe was hacked
You use a different password for every site, but are changing them all anyway because Adobe got hacked? That makes about as much sense as rekeying the locks in your house. On Sun, Oct 6, 2013 at 4:30 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: > FWIW, I use different passwords on different sites, so I am not worried about > my Adobe password being compromised. Regardless of which, I am changing > things all over again everywhere - had to do this with the recent LinkedIn > breach some months back (albeit no credit card involved there) - just doing > it again now. Sigh.
Re: Adobe was hacked
Thanks for the alert, Tammy! IMO they should have blasted an email to all of us... I just posted the Adobe link to the STC New England Facebook page and Tweeted it. On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Tammy Van Boening tamm...@spectrumwritingllc.com wrote: All, ** ** ** ** I am sure that some of you have might have already seen this on MSNBC or the like today, but for those of you who have not - Adobe was hacked over two weeks ago and they are just now sending out the announcement to affected and possibly affected customers. Over 3 million accounts were impacted. You can google the topic and find many in depth articles about the situation. ** ** I figured that this might be some helpful information for those of you who weren't yet made aware of the situation. ** ** TVB ** ** ** ** ** ** Important Customer Security Alert [image: Adobe] Read onlinehttp://view.mail.adobesystems.com/?j=fec4167675610c7bm=fe9915737760037f76ls=fe4b1270776c0d747c1dl=ff971272s=fe641577756d007d7314jb=ff6317707cju= [image: Adobe] Important Customer Security Alert *To view this message in a language other than English, please click herehttp://www.adobe.com/go/cc-email .* We recently discovered that attackers illegally entered our network. The attackers may have obtained access to your Adobe ID and encrypted password. We currently have no indication that there has been unauthorized activity on your account. If you have placed an order with us, information such as your name, encrypted payment card number, and card expiration date also may have been accessed. We do not believe any decrypted card numbers were removed from our systems. To prevent unauthorized access to your account, we have reset your password. Please visit *www.adobe.com/go/passwordreset* to create a new password. We recommend that you also change your password on any website where you use the same user ID or password. As always, please be cautious when responding to any email seeking your personal information. We also recommend that you monitor your account for incidents of fraud and identity theft, including regularly reviewing your account statements and monitoring credit reports. If you discover any suspicious or unusual activity on your account or suspect identity theft or fraud, you should report it immediately to your bank. You will be receiving a letter from us shortly that provides more information on this matter. We deeply regret any inconvenience this may cause you. We value the trust of our customers and we will work aggressively to prevent these types of events from occurring in the future. If you have questions, you can learn more by visiting our Customer Alert page, which you will find herehttp://www.adobe.com/go/customer_alert. Adobe Customer Care Adobe, the Adobe logo and Adobe PDF logo are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Adobe Systems Incorporated in the United States and/or other countries. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. ©2013 Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as john.sgamm...@actifio.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/john.sgammato%40actifio.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- http://www.actifio.com/*John Sgammato, Documentation Architect* *e* john.sgamm...@actifio.com *c* 508.927.2083 *t* @actifiodocs http://twitter.com/actifiodocs 333 Wyman Street, Waltham, MA 02451 http://twitter.com/actifio http://www.linkedin.com/company/399246 https://plus.google.com/102870897962348937868/posts http://www.youtube.com/user/actifiohttp://www.actifio.com/ *Radically simple copy data management * *.** * ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Adobe was hacked
What increased threat? Trial, subscription, and purchase are identical except for if and when the license expires. On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Alan T Litchfield a...@alphabyte.co.nz wrote: umm, is this a good time to bring up the new subscription licensing model and its inherent weaknesses (or should I say the increased threat of harm through attack and incompetent data management practices) ? ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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What different mechanisms? Except for TurboTax at Costco, I've been buying all my software online for over ten years. Most of it's not available through other channels. Credit card fraud's annoying since I have to get a new card and number two or three times a year, but online purchases are less of a risk than a restaurant or dry cleaner. This reminds me of the arguments people born in the 1920s make against using ATM machines. On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Alan T Litchfield a...@alphabyte.co.nz wrote: The increased threat is the adoption of subscription payments where previously different mechanisms were used to pay for this stuff. Now, much is online and therefore vulnerable. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Adobe was hacked
all, AND . . . if you were a Frame-10 user on January 1, 2013 . . . you know EXPIRED SUBSCRIPTION embeded code . . . really does function. ooops So . . . if one does cease to auto-pay . . . shall you become promptly de-ceased? ¿Has anyone on subscription tried changing/advancing their system clock 2-3 months to see if anything odd occurs? please advise cha-CHANG$$$ Dick Doll (Frame user since V4.1 thru V10) graphic communications, llc sgmli...@tds.net - Original Message - From: Alan T Litchfield a...@alphabyte.co.nz To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 6:46 PM Subject: Re: Adobe was hacked The increased threat is the adoption of subscription payments where previously different mechanisms were used to pay for this stuff. Now, much is online and therefore vulnerable. It is the point you make that is the issue (and the answer to your own question). What happens when your license expires? When a person takes the default the option to have credit card details saved and reused at renewal time, then that opens the doors for the criminal element to have a go. That is an increased threat. Why should we trust a corporation for whom we have no direct relationship, especially those who work within? A corporation that wants no relationship with us except to provide a product and dictates a payment method that provides the threat of harm? Yet, there is an expectation of trust when credit card and other details are provided. Adobe plays a patriarchal role in selectively ignoring pleas from its customers (dependants) and in return those dependants respond with increased offerings of trust and forgiveness when any kind of weakness on the part of the patriarch is displayed. Dependants are caused to question their own values and belief in the system when they ought to be questioning the system's values and making demands that services are provided so that trust is warranted. Alan On 5/10/2013, at 10:08 AM, Robert Lauriston wrote: What increased threat? Trial, subscription, and purchase are identical except for if and when the license expires. On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Alan T Litchfield a...@alphabyte.co.nz wrote: umm, is this a good time to bring up the new subscription licensing model and its inherent weaknesses (or should I say the increased threat of harm through attack and incompetent data management practices) ? -- Dr Alan Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland, 1140 New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as sgmli...@tds.net. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sgmlindy%40tds.net Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Thanks. Read that in the news. They haven't contacted me, so fingers crossed. umm, is this a good time to bring up the new subscription licensing model and its inherent weaknesses (or should I say the increased threat of harm through attack and incompetent data management practices) ? Alan On 5/10/2013, at 4:44 AM, Tammy Van Boening wrote: > All, > > > I am sure that some of you have might have already seen this on > MSNBC or the like today, but for those of you who have not - Adobe > was hacked over two weeks ago and they are just now sending out the > announcement to affected and possibly affected customers. Over 3 > million accounts were impacted. You can google the topic and find > many in depth articles about the situation. > > I figured that this might be some helpful information for those of > you who weren't yet made aware of the situation. > > TVB > > > > Important Customer Security Alert > > Read online > > Important Customer Security Alert > To view this message in a language other than English, please click > here. > > We recently discovered that attackers illegally entered our network. > The attackers may have obtained access to your Adobe ID and > encrypted password. We currently have no indication that there has > been unauthorized activity on your account. If you have placed an > order with us, information such as your name, encrypted payment card > number, and card expiration date also may have been accessed. We do > not believe any decrypted card numbers were removed from our systems. > > To prevent unauthorized access to your account, we have reset your > password. Please visitwww.adobe.com/go/passwordreset to create a new > password. We recommend that you also change your password on any > website where you use the same user ID or password. As always, > please be cautious when responding to any email seeking your > personal information. > > We also recommend that you monitor your account for incidents of > fraud and identity theft, including regularly reviewing your account > statements and monitoring credit reports. If you discover any > suspicious or unusual activity on your account or suspect identity > theft or fraud, you should report it immediately to your bank. You > will be receiving a letter from us shortly that provides more > information on this matter. > > We deeply regret any inconvenience this may cause you. We value the > trust of our customers and we will work aggressively to prevent > these types of events from occurring in the future. If you have > questions, you can learn more by visiting our Customer Alert page, > which you will find here. > Adobe Customer Care > Adobe, the Adobe logo and Adobe PDF logo are either registered > trademarks or trademarks of Adobe Systems Incorporated in the United > States and/or other countries. All other trademarks are the property > of their respective owners. > > ?2013 Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as alan at alphabyte.co.nz. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.co.nz > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Dr Alan Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland, 1140 New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
Adobe was hacked
The increased threat is the adoption of subscription payments where previously different mechanisms were used to pay for this stuff. Now, much is online and therefore vulnerable. It is the point you make that is the issue (and the answer to your own question). What happens when your license expires? When a person takes the default the option to have credit card details saved and reused at renewal time, then that opens the doors for the criminal element to "have a go". That is an increased threat. Why should we trust a corporation for whom we have no direct relationship, especially those who work within? A corporation that wants no relationship with us except to provide a product and dictates a payment method that provides the threat of harm? Yet, there is an expectation of trust when credit card and other details are provided. Adobe plays a patriarchal role in selectively ignoring pleas from its customers (dependants) and in return those dependants respond with increased offerings of trust and forgiveness when any kind of weakness on the part of the patriarch is displayed. Dependants are caused to question their own values and belief in the system when they ought to be questioning the system's values and making demands that services are provided so that trust is warranted. Alan On 5/10/2013, at 10:08 AM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > What increased threat? Trial, subscription, and purchase are identical > except for if and when the license expires. > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Alan T Litchfield > wrote: > >> umm, is this a good time to bring up the new subscription licensing >> model >> and its inherent weaknesses (or should I say the increased threat >> of harm >> through attack and incompetent data management practices) ? -- Dr Alan Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland, 1140 New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
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all, AND . . . if you were a Frame-10 user on January 1, 2013 . . . you know EXPIRED SUBSCRIPTION embeded code . . . really does function. ooops So . . . if one does cease to "auto"-pay . . . shall you become promptly de-ceased? ?Has anyone "on subscription" tried changing/advancing their system clock 2-3 months to see if anything odd occurs? please advise cha-CHANG$$$ Dick Doll (Frame user since V4.1 thru V10) graphic communications, llc sgmlindy at tds.net - Original Message - From: "Alan T Litchfield" <a...@alphabyte.co.nz> To: Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 6:46 PM Subject: Re: Adobe was hacked > The increased threat is the adoption of subscription payments where > previously different mechanisms were used to pay for this stuff. Now, > much is online and therefore vulnerable. > > It is the point you make that is the issue (and the answer to your own > question). What happens when your license expires? When a person takes > the default the option to have credit card details saved and reused at > renewal time, then that opens the doors for the criminal element to "have > a go". That is an increased threat. > > Why should we trust a corporation for whom we have no direct > relationship, especially those who work within? A corporation that wants > no relationship with us except to provide a product and dictates a > payment method that provides the threat of harm? Yet, there is an > expectation of trust when credit card and other details are provided. > Adobe plays a patriarchal role in selectively ignoring pleas from its > customers (dependants) and in return those dependants respond with > increased offerings of trust and forgiveness when any kind of weakness on > the part of the patriarch is displayed. Dependants are caused to question > their own values and belief in the system when they ought to be > questioning the system's values and making demands that services are > provided so that trust is warranted. > > Alan > > > On 5/10/2013, at 10:08 AM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > >> What increased threat? Trial, subscription, and purchase are identical >> except for if and when the license expires. >> >> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Alan T Litchfield > > wrote: >> >>> umm, is this a good time to bring up the new subscription licensing >>> model >>> and its inherent weaknesses (or should I say the increased threat of >>> harm >>> through attack and incompetent data management practices) ? > > -- > Dr Alan Litchfield > AlphaByte > PO Box 1941, Auckland, 1140 > New Zealand > http://www.alphabyte.co.nz > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as sgmlindy at tds.net. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/sgmlindy%40tds.net > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Thanks for the information, Tammy. Amazing that Adobe did not let us know. After resetting my password I logged in to verify that my information (product registrations) was still there. I was using Mozilla Nightly 64-bit. It told me I had no products registered. I contacted Adobe support, and they advised me to use a different browser. So I tried IE10 (64-bit) and they were all there. Just in case anyone else gets the same result. Regards. Roger Shuttleworth On 04/10/2013 4:44 PM, Tammy Van Boening wrote: > All, > > I am sure that some of you have might have already seen this on MSNBC or > the like today, but for those of you who have not - Adobe was hacked > over two weeks ago and they are just now sending out the announcement to > affected and possibly affected customers. Over 3 million accounts were > impacted. You can google the topic and find many in depth articles about > the situation. > > I figured that this might be some helpful information for those of you > who weren't yet made aware of the situation. > > TVB > > Important Customer Security Alert > > Adobe > > > > Read online > <http://view.mail.adobesystems.com/?j=fec4167675610c7b=fe9915737760037f76=fe4b1270776c0d747c1d=ff971272=fe641577756d007d7314=ff6317707c=> > > > Adobe > > Important Customer Security Alert > > *To view this message in a language other than English, please click > here <http://www.adobe.com/go/cc-email>.* > > We recently discovered that attackers illegally entered our network. The > attackers may have obtained access to your Adobe ID and encrypted > password. We currently have no indication that there has been > unauthorized activity on your account. If you have placed an order with > us, information such as your name, encrypted payment card number, and > card expiration date also may have been accessed. We do not believe any > decrypted card numbers were removed from our systems. > > To prevent unauthorized access to your account, we have reset your > password. Please visit *www.adobe.com/go/passwordreset* to create a new > password. We recommend that you also change your password on any website > where you use the same user ID or password. As always, please be > cautious when responding to any email seeking your personal information. > > We also recommend that you monitor your account for incidents of fraud > and identity theft, including regularly reviewing your account > statements and monitoring credit reports. If you discover any suspicious > or unusual activity on your account or suspect identity theft or fraud, > you should report it immediately to your bank. You will be receiving a > letter from us shortly that provides more information on this matter. > > We deeply regret any inconvenience this may cause you. We value the > trust of our customers and we will work aggressively to prevent these > types of events from occurring in the future. If you have questions, you > can learn more by visiting our Customer Alert page, which you will find > here <http://www.adobe.com/go/customer_alert>. > > Adobe Customer Care > > Adobe, the Adobe logo and Adobe PDF logo are either registered > trademarks or trademarks of Adobe Systems Incorporated in the United > States and/or other countries. All other trademarks are the property of > their respective owners. > > ?2013 Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as shuttie27 at gmail.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/shuttie27%40gmail.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. >
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Getting logins and passwords for a retail site doesn't necessarily allow you to get credit card information. Many sites display only the last four digits. On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 7:05 PM, Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) wrote: > I would also add that the Adobe Cloud model subscription *requires* us to > keep a credit card on file with them for their monthly charge.
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All, I am sure that some of you have might have already seen this on MSNBC or the like today, but for those of you who have not - Adobe was hacked over two weeks ago and they are just now sending out the announcement to affected and possibly affected customers. Over 3 million accounts were impacted. You can google the topic and find many in depth articles about the situation. I figured that this might be some helpful information for those of you who weren't yet made aware of the situation. TVB Important Customer Security Alert Adobe http://image.mail.adobesystems.com/lib/fe9d157073640c7e75/m/3/adobe.corp.email.red-tag.jpg http://view.mail.adobesystems.com/?j=fec4167675610c7bm=fe9915737760037f76ls=fe4b1270776c0d747c1dl=ff971272s=fe641577756d007d7314jb=ff6317707cju= Read online Adobe http://s7d9.scene7.com/is/image/AdobeDemandCreative/adobe-rwf-logotypeRS?fmt=pngwid=376hei=28d_text=Adobe%20Systems%20Incorporated Important Customer Security Alert To view this message in a language other than English, please click http://www.adobe.com/go/cc-email here. We recently discovered that attackers illegally entered our network. The attackers may have obtained access to your Adobe ID and encrypted password. We currently have no indication that there has been unauthorized activity on your account. If you have placed an order with us, information such as your name, encrypted payment card number, and card expiration date also may have been accessed. We do not believe any decrypted card numbers were removed from our systems. To prevent unauthorized access to your account, we have reset your password. Please visit www.adobe.com/go/passwordreset to create a new password. We recommend that you also change your password on any website where you use the same user ID or password. As always, please be cautious when responding to any email seeking your personal information. We also recommend that you monitor your account for incidents of fraud and identity theft, including regularly reviewing your account statements and monitoring credit reports. If you discover any suspicious or unusual activity on your account or suspect identity theft or fraud, you should report it immediately to your bank. You will be receiving a letter from us shortly that provides more information on this matter. We deeply regret any inconvenience this may cause you. We value the trust of our customers and we will work aggressively to prevent these types of events from occurring in the future. If you have questions, you can learn more by visiting our Customer Alert page, which you will find http://www.adobe.com/go/customer_alert here. Adobe Customer Care Adobe, the Adobe logo and Adobe PDF logo are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Adobe Systems Incorporated in the United States and/or other countries. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. ©2013 Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. http://click.mail.adobesystems.com/open.aspx?ffcb10-fec4167675610c7b-fe4b1270776c0d747c1d-fe9915737760037f76-ff971272-fe641577756d007d7314-ff6317707c ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Thanks. Read that in the news. They haven't contacted me, so fingers crossed. umm, is this a good time to bring up the new subscription licensing model and its inherent weaknesses (or should I say the increased threat of harm through attack and incompetent data management practices) ? Alan On 5/10/2013, at 4:44 AM, Tammy Van Boening wrote: All, I am sure that some of you have might have already seen this on MSNBC or the like today, but for those of you who have not - Adobe was hacked over two weeks ago and they are just now sending out the announcement to affected and possibly affected customers. Over 3 million accounts were impacted. You can google the topic and find many in depth articles about the situation. I figured that this might be some helpful information for those of you who weren't yet made aware of the situation. TVB Important Customer Security Alert Read online Important Customer Security Alert To view this message in a language other than English, please click here. We recently discovered that attackers illegally entered our network. The attackers may have obtained access to your Adobe ID and encrypted password. We currently have no indication that there has been unauthorized activity on your account. If you have placed an order with us, information such as your name, encrypted payment card number, and card expiration date also may have been accessed. We do not believe any decrypted card numbers were removed from our systems. To prevent unauthorized access to your account, we have reset your password. Please visitwww.adobe.com/go/passwordreset to create a new password. We recommend that you also change your password on any website where you use the same user ID or password. As always, please be cautious when responding to any email seeking your personal information. We also recommend that you monitor your account for incidents of fraud and identity theft, including regularly reviewing your account statements and monitoring credit reports. If you discover any suspicious or unusual activity on your account or suspect identity theft or fraud, you should report it immediately to your bank. You will be receiving a letter from us shortly that provides more information on this matter. We deeply regret any inconvenience this may cause you. We value the trust of our customers and we will work aggressively to prevent these types of events from occurring in the future. If you have questions, you can learn more by visiting our Customer Alert page, which you will find here. Adobe Customer Care Adobe, the Adobe logo and Adobe PDF logo are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Adobe Systems Incorporated in the United States and/or other countries. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. ©2013 Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as a...@alphabyte.co.nz. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/alan%40alphabyte.co.nz Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. -- Dr Alan Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland, 1140 New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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Alan Litchfield said: Read that in the news. They haven't contacted me, so fingers crossed. I have not been contacted either! :( Not sure if that is good news yet ... I would much prefer a you are okay e-mail if I am not in trouble. But, in this day and age, companies tend *not* to send out alarming messages. That is unfortunate. umm, is this a good time to bring up the new subscription licensing model and its inherent weaknesses (or should I say the increased threat of harm through attack and incompetent data management practices) ? A very interesting question, indeed. Z On 5/10/2013, at 4:44 AM, Tammy Van Boening wrote: All, I am sure that some of you have might have already seen this on MSNBC or the like today, but for those of you who have not - Adobe was hacked over two weeks ago and they are just now sending out the announcement to affected and possibly affected customers. Over 3 million accounts were impacted. You can google the topic and find many in depth articles about the situation. I figured that this might be some helpful information for those of you who weren't yet made aware of the situation. TVB Important Customer Security Alert Read online Important Customer Security Alert To view this message in a language other than English, please click here. We recently discovered that attackers illegally entered our network. The attackers may have obtained access to your Adobe ID and encrypted password. We currently have no indication that there has been unauthorized activity on your account. If you have placed an order with us, information such as your name, encrypted payment card number, and card expiration date also may have been accessed. We do not believe any decrypted card numbers were removed from our systems. To prevent unauthorized access to your account, we have reset your password. Please visitwww.adobe.com/go/passwordreset to create a new password. We recommend that you also change your password on any website where you use the same user ID or password. As always, please be cautious when responding to any email seeking your personal information. We also recommend that you monitor your account for incidents of fraud and identity theft, including regularly reviewing your account statements and monitoring credit reports. If you discover any suspicious or unusual activity on your account or suspect identity theft or fraud, you should report it immediately to your bank. You will be receiving a letter from us shortly that provides more information on this matter. We deeply regret any inconvenience this may cause you. We value the trust of our customers and we will work aggressively to prevent these types of events from occurring in the future. If you have questions, you can learn more by visiting our Customer Alert page, which you will find here. Adobe Customer Care Adobe, the Adobe logo and Adobe PDF logo are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Adobe Systems Incorporated in the United States and/or other countries. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. (c)2013 Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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I received the notice, too. I can't say that I'm surprised. It's probably an unintended consequence of moving to the Creative Cloud subscription model. Now pirates have incentive to hack the user subscription database instead of the programs themselves. I imagine it won't be the last time. Mike Wickham ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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The increased threat is the adoption of subscription payments where previously different mechanisms were used to pay for this stuff. Now, much is online and therefore vulnerable. It is the point you make that is the issue (and the answer to your own question). What happens when your license expires? When a person takes the default the option to have credit card details saved and reused at renewal time, then that opens the doors for the criminal element to have a go. That is an increased threat. Why should we trust a corporation for whom we have no direct relationship, especially those who work within? A corporation that wants no relationship with us except to provide a product and dictates a payment method that provides the threat of harm? Yet, there is an expectation of trust when credit card and other details are provided. Adobe plays a patriarchal role in selectively ignoring pleas from its customers (dependants) and in return those dependants respond with increased offerings of trust and forgiveness when any kind of weakness on the part of the patriarch is displayed. Dependants are caused to question their own values and belief in the system when they ought to be questioning the system's values and making demands that services are provided so that trust is warranted. Alan On 5/10/2013, at 10:08 AM, Robert Lauriston wrote: What increased threat? Trial, subscription, and purchase are identical except for if and when the license expires. On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Alan T Litchfield a...@alphabyte.co.nz wrote: umm, is this a good time to bring up the new subscription licensing model and its inherent weaknesses (or should I say the increased threat of harm through attack and incompetent data management practices) ? -- Dr Alan Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland, 1140 New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
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I would also add that the Adobe Cloud model subscription *requires* us to keep a credit card on file with them for their monthly charge. My teen-age son has an Academic Creative Cloud account with Adobe for his High School class on Graphic Arts - it automatically charges a monthly amount to *my* credit card every month. This was done with the expectation that it would be secure. *If* it has been compromised, I *sure would like to know* positively one way or another! While I have not seen any unusual charges on my credit card account (just checked), this is very important. Changing the card number can be painful - I'd have to change a number of automatic charges that are scheduled to it. Plus, you can have other problems. For example, problems with the airline tickets for International travel (that I have already booked for the next few months). My wife got stuck at an airport once for many hours because they would not let her transit ... she had lost her card, got a replacement, but the ticket was on the old one that she did not have anymore! I had to get Amex to write and fax a letter to the airport authorities to allow her to proceed! Sigh ... Z -Original Message- From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alan T Litchfield Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:47 PM To: framers@lists.frameusers.com Forum Subject: Re: Adobe was hacked The increased threat is the adoption of subscription payments where previously different mechanisms were used to pay for this stuff. Now, much is online and therefore vulnerable. It is the point you make that is the issue (and the answer to your own question). What happens when your license expires? When a person takes the default the option to have credit card details saved and reused at renewal time, then that opens the doors for the criminal element to have a go. That is an increased threat. Why should we trust a corporation for whom we have no direct relationship, especially those who work within? A corporation that wants no relationship with us except to provide a product and dictates a payment method that provides the threat of harm? Yet, there is an expectation of trust when credit card and other details are provided. Adobe plays a patriarchal role in selectively ignoring pleas from its customers (dependants) and in return those dependants respond with increased offerings of trust and forgiveness when any kind of weakness on the part of the patriarch is displayed. Dependants are caused to question their own values and belief in the system when they ought to be questioning the system's values and making demands that services are provided so that trust is warranted. Alan On 5/10/2013, at 10:08 AM, Robert Lauriston wrote: What increased threat? Trial, subscription, and purchase are identical except for if and when the license expires. On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Alan T Litchfield a...@alphabyte.co.nz wrote: umm, is this a good time to bring up the new subscription licensing model and its inherent weaknesses (or should I say the increased threat of harm through attack and incompetent data management practices) ? -- Dr Alan Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland, 1140 New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz ___ You are currently subscribed to framers as arch...@mail-archive.com. Send list messages to framers@lists.frameusers.com. To unsubscribe send a blank email to framers-unsubscr...@lists.frameusers.com or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to listad...@frameusers.com. Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Adobe was hacked
All, I am sure that some of you have might have already seen this on MSNBC or the like today, but for those of you who have not - Adobe was hacked over two weeks ago and they are just now sending out the announcement to affected and possibly affected customers. Over 3 million accounts were impacted. You can google the topic and find many in depth articles about the situation. I figured that this might be some helpful information for those of you who weren't yet made aware of the situation. TVB Important Customer Security Alert Adobe <http://image.mail.adobesystems.com/lib/fe9d157073640c7e75/m/3/adobe.corp.email.red-tag.jpg> <http://view.mail.adobesystems.com/?j=fec4167675610c7b=fe9915737760037f76=fe4b1270776c0d747c1d=ff971272=fe641577756d007d7314=ff6317707c=> Read online Adobe <http://s7d9.scene7.com/is/image/AdobeDemandCreative/adobe-rwf-logotypeRS?fmt=png=376=28_text=Adobe%20Systems%20Incorporated> Important Customer Security Alert To view this message in a language other than English, please click <http://www.adobe.com/go/cc-email> here. We recently discovered that attackers illegally entered our network. The attackers may have obtained access to your Adobe ID and encrypted password. We currently have no indication that there has been unauthorized activity on your account. If you have placed an order with us, information such as your name, encrypted payment card number, and card expiration date also may have been accessed. We do not believe any decrypted card numbers were removed from our systems. To prevent unauthorized access to your account, we have reset your password. Please visit www.adobe.com/go/passwordreset to create a new password. We recommend that you also change your password on any website where you use the same user ID or password. As always, please be cautious when responding to any email seeking your personal information. We also recommend that you monitor your account for incidents of fraud and identity theft, including regularly reviewing your account statements and monitoring credit reports. If you discover any suspicious or unusual activity on your account or suspect identity theft or fraud, you should report it immediately to your bank. You will be receiving a letter from us shortly that provides more information on this matter. We deeply regret any inconvenience this may cause you. We value the trust of our customers and we will work aggressively to prevent these types of events from occurring in the future. If you have questions, you can learn more by visiting our Customer Alert page, which you will find <http://www.adobe.com/go/customer_alert> here. Adobe Customer Care Adobe, the Adobe logo and Adobe PDF logo are either registered trademarks or trademarks of Adobe Systems Incorporated in the United States and/or other countries. All other trademarks are the property of their respective owners. ?2013 Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. <http://click.mail.adobesystems.com/open.aspx?ffcb10-fec4167675610c7b-fe4b1270776c0d747c1d-fe9915737760037f76-ff971272-fe641577756d007d7314-ff6317707c> -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20131004/023ae750/attachment.html>
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Alan Litchfield said: > Read that in the news. They haven't contacted me, so fingers crossed. I have not been contacted either! :( Not sure if that is good news yet ... I would much prefer a "you are okay" e-mail if I am not in trouble. But, in this day and age, companies tend *not* to send out alarming messages. That is unfortunate. > umm, is this a good time to bring up the new subscription licensing model and > its inherent weaknesses (or should I say the increased threat of harm through > attack and incompetent data management practices) ? A very interesting question, indeed. Z On 5/10/2013, at 4:44 AM, Tammy Van Boening wrote: > All, > > I am sure that some of you have might have already seen this on MSNBC > or the like today, but for those of you who have not - Adobe was > hacked over two weeks ago and they are just now sending out the > announcement to affected and possibly affected customers. Over 3 > million accounts were impacted. You can google the topic and find many > in depth articles about the situation. > > I figured that this might be some helpful information for those of you > who weren't yet made aware of the situation. > > TVB > > Important Customer Security Alert > > Read online > > Important Customer Security Alert > To view this message in a language other than English, please click > here. > > We recently discovered that attackers illegally entered our network. > The attackers may have obtained access to your Adobe ID and encrypted > password. We currently have no indication that there has been > unauthorized activity on your account. If you have placed an order > with us, information such as your name, encrypted payment card number, > and card expiration date also may have been accessed. We do not > believe any decrypted card numbers were removed from our systems. > > To prevent unauthorized access to your account, we have reset your > password. Please visitwww.adobe.com/go/passwordreset to create a new > password. We recommend that you also change your password on any > website where you use the same user ID or password. As always, please > be cautious when responding to any email seeking your personal > information. > > We also recommend that you monitor your account for incidents of fraud > and identity theft, including regularly reviewing your account > statements and monitoring credit reports. If you discover any > suspicious or unusual activity on your account or suspect identity > theft or fraud, you should report it immediately to your bank. You > will be receiving a letter from us shortly that provides more > information on this matter. > > We deeply regret any inconvenience this may cause you. We value the > trust of our customers and we will work aggressively to prevent these > types of events from occurring in the future. If you have questions, > you can learn more by visiting our Customer Alert page, which you will > find here. > Adobe Customer Care > Adobe, the Adobe logo and Adobe PDF logo are either registered > trademarks or trademarks of Adobe Systems Incorporated in the United > States and/or other countries. All other trademarks are the property > of their respective owners. > > (c)2013 Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved.
Adobe was hacked
I received the notice, too. I can't say that I'm surprised. It's probably an unintended consequence of moving to the Creative Cloud subscription model. Now pirates have incentive to hack the user subscription database instead of the programs themselves. I imagine it won't be the last time. Mike Wickham
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I would also add that the Adobe Cloud model subscription *requires* us to keep a credit card on file with them for their monthly charge. My teen-age son has an Academic Creative Cloud account with Adobe for his High School class on Graphic Arts - it automatically charges a monthly amount to *my* credit card every month. This was done with the expectation that it would be secure. *If* it has been compromised, I *sure would like to know* positively one way or another! While I have not seen any unusual charges on my credit card account (just checked), this is very important. Changing the card number can be painful - I'd have to change a number of automatic charges that are scheduled to it. Plus, you can have other problems. For example, problems with the airline tickets for International travel (that I have already booked for the next few months). My wife got stuck at an airport once for many hours because they would not let her transit ... she had lost her card, got a replacement, but the ticket was on the old one that she did not have anymore! I had to get Amex to write and fax a letter to the airport authorities to allow her to proceed! Sigh ... Z -Original Message- From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Alan T Litchfield Sent: Friday, October 04, 2013 3:47 PM To: framers at lists.frameusers.com Forum Subject: Re: Adobe was hacked The increased threat is the adoption of subscription payments where previously different mechanisms were used to pay for this stuff. Now, much is online and therefore vulnerable. It is the point you make that is the issue (and the answer to your own question). What happens when your license expires? When a person takes the default the option to have credit card details saved and reused at renewal time, then that opens the doors for the criminal element to "have a go". That is an increased threat. Why should we trust a corporation for whom we have no direct relationship, especially those who work within? A corporation that wants no relationship with us except to provide a product and dictates a payment method that provides the threat of harm? Yet, there is an expectation of trust when credit card and other details are provided. Adobe plays a patriarchal role in selectively ignoring pleas from its customers (dependants) and in return those dependants respond with increased offerings of trust and forgiveness when any kind of weakness on the part of the patriarch is displayed. Dependants are caused to question their own values and belief in the system when they ought to be questioning the system's values and making demands that services are provided so that trust is warranted. Alan On 5/10/2013, at 10:08 AM, Robert Lauriston wrote: > What increased threat? Trial, subscription, and purchase are identical > except for if and when the license expires. > > On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Alan T Litchfield > > wrote: > >> umm, is this a good time to bring up the new subscription licensing >> model and its inherent weaknesses (or should I say the increased >> threat of harm through attack and incompetent data management >> practices) ? -- Dr Alan Litchfield AlphaByte PO Box 1941, Auckland, 1140 New Zealand http://www.alphabyte.co.nz
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Thanks for the alert, Tammy! IMO they should have blasted an email to all of us... I just posted the Adobe link to the STC New England Facebook page and Tweeted it. On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 11:44 AM, Tammy Van Boening < tammyvb at spectrumwritingllc.com> wrote: > All, > > ** ** > > ** ** > > I am sure that some of you have might have already seen this on MSNBC or > the like today, but for those of you who have not - Adobe was hacked over > two weeks ago and they are just now sending out the announcement to > affected and possibly affected customers. Over 3 million accounts were > impacted. You can google the topic and find many in depth articles about > the situation. > > ** ** > > I figured that this might be some helpful information for those of you who > weren't yet made aware of the situation. > > ** ** > > TVB > > ** ** > > ** ** > > ** ** > > Important Customer Security Alert > > [image: Adobe] > > Read > online<http://view.mail.adobesystems.com/?j=fec4167675610c7b=fe9915737760037f76=fe4b1270776c0d747c1d=ff971272=fe641577756d007d7314=ff6317707c=> > > > [image: Adobe] > > Important Customer Security Alert > > *To view this message in a language other than English, please click > here<http://www.adobe.com/go/cc-email> > .* > > We recently discovered that attackers illegally entered our network. The > attackers may have obtained access to your Adobe ID and encrypted password. > We currently have no indication that there has been unauthorized activity > on your account. If you have placed an order with us, information such as > your name, encrypted payment card number, and card expiration date also may > have been accessed. We do not believe any decrypted card numbers were > removed from our systems. > > To prevent unauthorized access to your account, we have reset your > password. Please visit *www.adobe.com/go/passwordreset* to create a new > password. We recommend that you also change your password on any website > where you use the same user ID or password. As always, please be cautious > when responding to any email seeking your personal information. > > We also recommend that you monitor your account for incidents of fraud and > identity theft, including regularly reviewing your account statements and > monitoring credit reports. If you discover any suspicious or unusual > activity on your account or suspect identity theft or fraud, you should > report it immediately to your bank. You will be receiving a letter from us > shortly that provides more information on this matter. > > We deeply regret any inconvenience this may cause you. We value the trust > of our customers and we will work aggressively to prevent these types of > events from occurring in the future. If you have questions, you can learn > more by visiting our Customer Alert page, which you will find > here<http://www.adobe.com/go/customer_alert>. > > > Adobe Customer Care > > Adobe, the Adobe logo and Adobe PDF logo are either registered trademarks > or trademarks of Adobe Systems Incorporated in the United States and/or > other countries. All other trademarks are the property of their respective > owners. > > ?2013 Adobe Systems Incorporated. All rights reserved. > > > > ___ > > > You are currently subscribed to framers as john.sgammato at actifio.com. > > Send list messages to framers at lists.frameusers.com. > > To unsubscribe send a blank email to > framers-unsubscribe at lists.frameusers.com > or visit > http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/john.sgammato%40actifio.com > > Send administrative questions to listadmin at frameusers.com. Visit > http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info. > > -- <http://www.actifio.com/>*John Sgammato, Documentation Architect* *e* john.sgammato at actifio.com *c* 508.927.2083 *t* @actifiodocs <http://twitter.com/actifiodocs> 333 Wyman Street, Waltham, MA 02451 <http://twitter.com/actifio> <http://www.linkedin.com/company/399246> <https://plus.google.com/102870897962348937868/posts> <http://www.youtube.com/user/actifio><http://www.actifio.com/> *Radically simple copy data management * *.** * -- next part -- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: <http://lists.frameusers.com/pipermail/framers/attachments/20131004/704d8fab/attachment.html>
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What increased threat? Trial, subscription, and purchase are identical except for if and when the license expires. On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 12:50 PM, Alan T Litchfield wrote: > umm, is this a good time to bring up the new subscription licensing model > and its inherent weaknesses (or should I say the increased threat of harm > through attack and incompetent data management practices) ?
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What different mechanisms? Except for TurboTax at Costco, I've been buying all my software online for over ten years. Most of it's not available through other channels. Credit card fraud's annoying since I have to get a new card and number two or three times a year, but online purchases are less of a risk than a restaurant or dry cleaner. This reminds me of the arguments people born in the 1920s make against using ATM machines. On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 3:46 PM, Alan T Litchfield wrote: > The increased threat is the adoption of subscription payments where > previously different mechanisms were used to pay for this stuff. Now, much > is online and therefore vulnerable.
