RE: Any way of applying a custom master page to final even page in component file

[Combs, Richard]

Hedley Finger wrote: 

 Occasionally a chapter file ends on a right page 
 (odd-numbered). Because the pagination is set to even number 
 of pages, the default Left master is applied to the final 
 left page (even-numbered) of the chapter.  We would like to 
 apply a special master page devoid of running heads and feet, 
 except for the page number.

Uh oh, we're getting perilously close to an intentionally left blank
thread. Dan Emory, I promise to restrain myself if you will, too! ;-)

Hedley, someone once suggested a bass-ackwards way to do it with master
page mapping. Specify a custom left master page invoked by the presence
of any pgf format. Set up the default Left page the way you want the
final left page to look. If there is no pgf on the page to trigger the
custom master page, FM will use the default. 

I haven't used master page mapping at all, so I can't vouch for the
process, but it sounds like it should work. Whether it's more or less
fussy than using MasterPage Tools or a FrameScript, I can't say. They
all sound too fussy for my tastes, so my empty left pages use the same
master page as the non-empty ones. :-)

HTH!
Richard


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RE: Any way of applying a custom master page to final even page in component file

[Bernard Aschwanden]

One trick is to set up your 'default' left and right pages to be 'intentionally 
blank' and then they always apply with no headers or footers.

Of course, that means you need to set up a pages with h/f set of masters. 
You'll also need to carefully play with the reference pages to apply them, but 
this may be a functional combination for you.

Bernard



Bernard Aschwanden
Director of Technology and Publishing Architecture
Bright Path Solutions

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Subject: Any way of applying a custom master page to final even page in 
component file

All:

Occasionally a chapter file ends on a right page (odd-numbered). Because 
the pagination is set to even number of pages, the default Left master is 
applied to the final left page (even-numbered) of the chapter.  We would 
like to apply a special master page devoid of running heads and feet, 
except for the page number.

Is there any inbuilt capabilty in FrameMaker for automatically applying or 
removing this final custom page depending on whether the page count is odd 
or even?  I looked at the MasterPageMap table approach but this only 
triggers on a paragraph format.  By definition, the flow symbol will be on 
the immediately preceding right page, so there would be NO paragraph on 
the last even page to trigger on.

Is there some way to do this automagically?  Or do I have to write a 
FrameScript event routine to check all component files in a book and 
apply/remove the last custom page on Update Book or whatever.  I suppose 
writers COULD ensure that a special para appeared on the last even page 
but then that's one more manual job to do before generating a PDF which 
they don't need.

Regards,
Hedley

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Hedley Finger
Training Content Developer and Tools Specialist
MYOB Australia Pty Ltd http://myob.com/au
P.O. box 371   Blackburn VIC 3130   Australia
12 Wesley Court   Tally Ho Business Park   East Burwood VIC 3151 Australia
mailto:hedleyDOTfingerATmyobDOTcom
Tel. +61 3 9222 9992 x 7421,   Mob. (cell) +61 412 461 558

C MYOB Technology Pty Ltd 2006
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Any way of applying a custom master page to final even page in component file

[hedley.fin...@myob.com]

All:

Occasionally a chapter file ends on a right page (odd-numbered). Because 
the pagination is set to even number of pages, the default Left master is 
applied to the final left page (even-numbered) of the chapter.  We would 
like to apply a special master page devoid of running heads and feet, 
except for the page number.

Is there any inbuilt capabilty in FrameMaker for automatically applying or 
removing this final custom page depending on whether the page count is odd 
or even?  I looked at the MasterPageMap table approach but this only 
triggers on a paragraph format.  By definition, the flow symbol will be on 
the immediately preceding right page, so there would be NO paragraph on 
the last even page to trigger on.

Is there some way to do this automagically?  Or do I have to write a 
FrameScript event routine to check all component files in a book and 
apply/remove the last custom page on Update Book or whatever.  I suppose 
writers COULD ensure that a special para appeared on the last even page 
but then that's one more manual job to do before generating a PDF which 
they don't need.

Regards,
Hedley

--
Hedley Finger
Training Content Developer and Tools Specialist
MYOB Australia Pty Ltd 
P.O. box 371   Blackburn VIC 3130   Australia
12 Wesley Court   Tally Ho Business Park   East Burwood VIC 3151 Australia

Tel. +61 3 9222 9992 x 7421,   Mob. (cell) +61 412 461 558

? MYOB Technology Pty Ltd 2006

Any way of applying a custom master page to final even page in component file

[Combs, Richard]

Hedley Finger wrote: 

> Occasionally a chapter file ends on a right page 
> (odd-numbered). Because the pagination is set to even number 
> of pages, the default Left master is applied to the final 
> left page (even-numbered) of the chapter.  We would like to 
> apply a special master page devoid of running heads and feet, 
> except for the page number.

Uh oh, we're getting perilously close to an "intentionally left blank"
thread. Dan Emory, I promise to restrain myself if you will, too! ;-)

Hedley, someone once suggested a bass-ackwards way to do it with master
page mapping. Specify a custom left master page invoked by the presence
of any pgf format. Set up the default Left page the way you want the
final left page to look. If there is no pgf on the page to trigger the
custom master page, FM will use the default. 

I haven't used master page mapping at all, so I can't vouch for the
process, but it sounds like it should work. Whether it's more or less
fussy than using MasterPage Tools or a FrameScript, I can't say. They
all sound too fussy for my tastes, so my empty left pages use the same
master page as the non-empty ones. :-)

HTH!
Richard


--
Richard G. Combs
Senior Technical Writer
Polycom, Inc.
richardDOTcombs AT polycomDOTcom
303-223-5111
--
rgcombs AT gmailDOTcom
303-777-0436
--

Any way of applying a custom master page to final even page in component file

[Bernard Aschwanden]

One trick is to set up your 'default' left and right pages to be 'intentionally 
blank' and then they always apply with no headers or footers.

Of course, that means you need to set up a "pages with h/f" set of masters. 
You'll also need to carefully play with the reference pages to apply them, but 
this may be a functional combination for you.

Bernard



Bernard Aschwanden
Director of Technology and Publishing Architecture
Bright Path Solutions

bernard at travelthepath.com 

www.travelthepath.com 



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Sent: Tuesday, November 21, 2006 8:05 PM
To: framers at omsys.com; framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Any way of applying a custom master page to final even page in 
component file

All:

Occasionally a chapter file ends on a right page (odd-numbered). Because 
the pagination is set to even number of pages, the default Left master is 
applied to the final left page (even-numbered) of the chapter.  We would 
like to apply a special master page devoid of running heads and feet, 
except for the page number.

Is there any inbuilt capabilty in FrameMaker for automatically applying or 
removing this final custom page depending on whether the page count is odd 
or even?  I looked at the MasterPageMap table approach but this only 
triggers on a paragraph format.  By definition, the flow symbol will be on 
the immediately preceding right page, so there would be NO paragraph on 
the last even page to trigger on.

Is there some way to do this automagically?  Or do I have to write a 
FrameScript event routine to check all component files in a book and 
apply/remove the last custom page on Update Book or whatever.  I suppose 
writers COULD ensure that a special para appeared on the last even page 
but then that's one more manual job to do before generating a PDF which 
they don't need.

Regards,
Hedley

--
Hedley Finger
Training Content Developer and Tools Specialist
MYOB Australia Pty Ltd 
P.O. box 371   Blackburn VIC 3130   Australia
12 Wesley Court   Tally Ho Business Park   East Burwood VIC 3151 Australia

Tel. +61 3 9222 9992 x 7421,   Mob. (cell) +61 412 461 558

C MYOB Technology Pty Ltd 2006
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Re: Any way of applying a custom master page to final even page in component file

[Carol J. Elkins]

Headley, I use Silicon Prairie Software's MasterPage Tools to do 
this. I'm really pleased with their product.


http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/

Carol

On 11/21/2006 6:04:58 PM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
 Is there some way to do this automagically?  Or do I have to write a
 FrameScript event routine to check all component files in a book and
 apply/remove the last custom page on Update Book or whatever.  


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Any way of applying a custom master page to final even page in component file

[Carol J. Elkins]

Headley, I use Silicon Prairie Software's MasterPage Tools to do 
this. I'm really pleased with their product.

http://www.siliconprairiesoftware.com/

Carol

On 11/21/2006 6:04:58 PM, hedley.finger at myob.com wrote:
 > Is there some way to do this automagically?  Or do I have to write a
 > FrameScript event routine to check all component files in a book and
 > apply/remove the last custom page on Update Book or whatever.