Re: Book Save-As PDF w/ multiple page sizes - Follow-Up

2015-06-08 Thread Lin Sims
Hey Charles,

What we do here if we have odd-sized or even just rotated pages is put them
in separate files from the regular pages. So a single chapter can actually
consist of multiple files, in order, for each change in size or
orientation. All you have to do is make sure that the numbering is set to
Use same chapter number as previous file, and Save As PDF works fine. You
might be able to get the same effect by turning them into a section, but I
haven't used that so I can't really say.

Of course, setting up in multiple files can be a small nuisance. On the
other hand, you don't have to worry about reapplying master pages if the
amount of information you have changes.

On Mon, Jun 8, 2015 at 4:58 PM, Charles Richardson c...@matrixpress.com
wrote:

 There have been several responses to my original post.  Here is my
 take-away summary:



 As I stated in the original post, Save-As PDF works perfectly for me as
 long as all pages are same size.  Books with dozens of bookmarks and
 thousands of links come out just fine.  BTW, I am using MicroType
 TimeSavers to manage special bookmarks.



 Like David Artman, who responded that he would never use Save-As PDF, I
 too avoided it entirely until very recently when Shlomo Perets encouraged
 me to use it in response to another post.  My prior reluctance went back to
 Dov Isaacs’ posts several FM releases ago when, as an Adobe respondent, he
 said that the Save-As function had significant issues.  I tested the
 suggestion from Craig Ede (put a tabloid page first) with the result that
 all pages in the PDF were tabloid.  Fred Ridder suggested making changes in
 the print window via a possible selection that detected page size
 automatically.  This is, in fact, the result I get by default if I do a
 print to .ps, i.e., the PDF virtual printer or Distiller DOES detect page
 size automatically.  That is the process I’ve been using from the
 beginning.  I don’t know how to make this happen with the Save-As method,
 which is why I posted today.



 Only a few of the 30-some print books I use to publish an 8,000 page
 document have tabloid pages.  Barring some further response that provides a
 workable methodology, I will continue to publish those books that have
 mixed-size pages in the traditional print to .ps + Distiller as I had been
 doing exclusively until quite recently.



 Why continue to use the Save-As method?  Why not just keep the process
 I’ve always had?  Well, for one thing, when I have to produce the entire
 document (over 30 books), it is much faster and simpler to use the Save-As
 PDF.



 As always, thanks to those who have responded.  If I discover a solution
 to the original issue, I will post an update.



 Charles



 *From:* framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:
 framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] *On Behalf Of *Charles Richardson
 *Sent:* Monday, June 08, 2015 10:36 AM
 *To:* framers@lists.frameusers.com
 *Subject:* Book Save-As PDF w/ multiple page sizes



 Unable to find answer in FM docs.  How does one configure FM to do Save-As
 PDF with the correct output page sizes (e.g., book with mixed
 letter/tabloid pages) in PDF?  This is not a problem if a book print setup
 is set to tabloid and printed to .ps then distilled; the output reflects
 the original page sizes.  With Save-As, if the page size is set to tabloid,
 all the pages in the output will be tabloid.  I can get only one size or
 the other.



 FM12 (unstructured)/Acrobat IX Adobe PDF Converter/W7



 Thanks for your help!

 Charles

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FW: Book Save-As PDF w/ multiple page sizes - Follow-Up

2015-06-08 Thread Charles Richardson
As I mentioned in my summary, I have just started to use Save-As PDF where
it works because it greatly simplifies a massive publishing task.  I plan to
continue to use the regular print to file + Distill for books that include
files with more than one page size, which is the process I've been using for
many years.  That process handles the differing sizes automatically.  It
would be nice if Save-As worked the same way.but it doesn't.

 

 

From: Fred Ridder [mailto:docu...@hotmail.com] 
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 5:32 PM
Subject: RE: Book Save-As PDF w/ multiple page sizes - Follow-Up

 

I still don't understand why you have to use Save As PDF rather than Print
to PDF via the Adobe PDF virtual printer. Except for the fact that they each
use their own set of Acrobat Distiller preferences (e.g. font subsetting,
compatibility, raster graphics down/subsampling), they are mostly the same
thing except that one requires using one GUI and the other needs you to use
two. Does Print to PDF via Adobe PDF printer yield different page sizes?

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Book Save-As PDF w/ multiple page sizes - Follow-Up

2015-06-08 Thread Charles Richardson
There have been several responses to my original post.  Here is my take-away
summary:

 

As I stated in the original post, Save-As PDF works perfectly for me as long
as all pages are same size.  Books with dozens of bookmarks and thousands of
links come out just fine.  BTW, I am using MicroType TimeSavers to manage
special bookmarks.

 

Like David Artman, who responded that he would never use Save-As PDF, I too
avoided it entirely until very recently when Shlomo Perets encouraged me to
use it in response to another post.  My prior reluctance went back to Dov
Isaacs' posts several FM releases ago when, as an Adobe respondent, he said
that the Save-As function had significant issues.  I tested the suggestion
from Craig Ede (put a tabloid page first) with the result that all pages in
the PDF were tabloid.  Fred Ridder suggested making changes in the print
window via a possible selection that detected page size automatically.  This
is, in fact, the result I get by default if I do a print to .ps, i.e., the
PDF virtual printer or Distiller DOES detect page size automatically.  That
is the process I've been using from the beginning.  I don't know how to make
this happen with the Save-As method, which is why I posted today.

  

Only a few of the 30-some print books I use to publish an 8,000 page
document have tabloid pages.  Barring some further response that provides a
workable methodology, I will continue to publish those books that have
mixed-size pages in the traditional print to .ps + Distiller as I had been
doing exclusively until quite recently.

 

Why continue to use the Save-As method?  Why not just keep the process I've
always had?  Well, for one thing, when I have to produce the entire document
(over 30 books), it is much faster and simpler to use the Save-As PDF.

 

As always, thanks to those who have responded.  If I discover a solution to
the original issue, I will post an update.

 

Charles

 

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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Charles
Richardson
Sent: Monday, June 08, 2015 10:36 AM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Book Save-As PDF w/ multiple page sizes

 

Unable to find answer in FM docs.  How does one configure FM to do Save-As
PDF with the correct output page sizes (e.g., book with mixed letter/tabloid
pages) in PDF?  This is not a problem if a book print setup is set to
tabloid and printed to .ps then distilled; the output reflects the original
page sizes.  With Save-As, if the page size is set to tabloid, all the pages
in the output will be tabloid.  I can get only one size or the other.

 

FM12 (unstructured)/Acrobat IX Adobe PDF Converter/W7

 

Thanks for your help!

Charles

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