Can no longer create .ps that does not error in Distiller

2013-12-11 Thread Steve Rickaby 
If there is anyone out there who is still using FrameMaker 7.0p577 on Mac in 
Classic, maybe they can help me with this problem, as I've wasted hours on it 
and I'm a bit desperate.

For historical reasons, I'm still on this setup. I reported earlier that the 
AdobePS printer driver, which I have used without any problem for a great many 
books and years, now falls over with the message 'The printer description file 
associated with this printer has caused an error (101)' on *both* Macs - and 
then FrameMaker crashes. I'm using the Acrobat PPD. This occurs even with a new 
clean installation of FrameMaker. Nothing significant has changed with the 
setups. I have therefore abandoned AdopePS.

So I am using the Apple Laserwriter 8 driver and writing .ps to file. However, 
I'm getting miscellaneous graphics-related errors that are sending Distiller 
(6) into a frenzy and an apparent endless loop. The main error appears to be 

'%%[ Error: limitcheck; OffendingCommand: 
310E121210182A3E4A674394332E3924051A251C3844423941392F2723241C1B425D5F635D5542392946552021292737454662564D4E4A3B505D6467552B3C3
 ]%%
%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%'

after which Distiller goes a bit mad and reports completion figures of 
thousands of percent.

I have one offending chapter, and turning the graphics off in that chapter 
allows the chapter to distill without error. However, if I try the entire book 
up to that point, I still get errors.

I'm not looking for someone to fix this, but I'd be most grateful for 
suggestions for a sensible diagnostic procedure. Maybe isolating the graphics 
to separate files and trying to create PDFs from them?

[I do have FrameMaker 10 for Windows, but at present don't have a machine on 
which to run it.]

-- 
Steve
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Re: Can no longer create .ps that does not error in Distiller

2013-12-11 Thread Art Campbell 
Isolating the graphics one by one would be approach. I have a hunch it'll
be a .PDF or .EPS; maybe conflicting versions of PostScript or something
obscure like that.

One important item you left out of your description is whether you're using
the distiller head that's installed by the FM distribution or have a
complete version of Acrobat...

Art Campbell
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a redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
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On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Steve Rickaby 
srick...@wordmongers.demon.co.uk wrote:

 If there is anyone out there who is still using FrameMaker 7.0p577 on Mac
 in Classic, maybe they can help me with this problem, as I've wasted hours
 on it and I'm a bit desperate.

 For historical reasons, I'm still on this setup. I reported earlier that
 the AdobePS printer driver, which I have used without any problem for a
 great many books and years, now falls over with the message 'The printer
 description file associated with this printer has caused an error (101)' on
 *both* Macs - and then FrameMaker crashes. I'm using the Acrobat PPD. This
 occurs even with a new clean installation of FrameMaker. Nothing
 significant has changed with the setups. I have therefore abandoned AdopePS.

 So I am using the Apple Laserwriter 8 driver and writing .ps to file.
 However, I'm getting miscellaneous graphics-related errors that are sending
 Distiller (6) into a frenzy and an apparent endless loop. The main error
 appears to be

 '%%[ Error: limitcheck; OffendingCommand:
 310E121210182A3E4A674394332E3924051A251C3844423941392F2723241C1B425D5F635D5542392946552021292737454662564D4E4A3B505D6467552B3C3
 ]%%
 %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%'

 after which Distiller goes a bit mad and reports completion figures of
 thousands of percent.

 I have one offending chapter, and turning the graphics off in that chapter
 allows the chapter to distill without error. However, if I try the entire
 book up to that point, I still get errors.

 I'm not looking for someone to fix this, but I'd be most grateful for
 suggestions for a sensible diagnostic procedure. Maybe isolating the
 graphics to separate files and trying to create PDFs from them?

 [I do have FrameMaker 10 for Windows, but at present don't have a machine
 on which to run it.]

 --
 Steve
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Re: Can no longer create .ps that does not error in Distiller

2013-12-11 Thread Steve Rickaby 
At 11:24 -0500 11/12/13, Art Campbell wrote:

Isolating the graphics one by one would be approach. I have a hunch it'll be a 
.PDF or .EPS; maybe conflicting versions of PostScript or something obscure 
like that.

Thanks.

One important item you left out of your description is whether you're using 
the distiller head that's installed by the FM distribution or have a complete 
version of Acrobat...

I am using a complete version of Acrobat 6. I did check, though, and Acrobat 6 
doesn't seem to install AdobePS. However, as I said, I've given up on that, so 
I guess there's no point chasing the 101 error unless I can't get the 
LaserWriter 8 driver to play.

Obviously I am using an old system, but it's always *just worked*, and now it 
suddenly doesn't, I'm a bit lost. (The reason I'm not running v 10 on Windows 
is that I've been waiting for the new Mac Pro.)

-- 
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Re: Can no longer create .ps that does not error in Distiller [progress]

2013-12-11 Thread Steve Rickaby 
My grateful thanks to Art and Syed for much help and moral support.

Syed - you were right, I should have tried MIF-washing the problem chapter 
first. After doing so, I got a .ps file that Distiller could distill, but with 
a Ps error, and recovery, producing a PDF with the message 'PostScript error 
(undefined filename)' where the problem graphic should have been - and thus 
identifying the problem file.

What Distiller actually said was 'A PostScript error occurred. FrameMaker is 
attempting recovery.' That's a *really* helpful error message ;-) And one that 
also implies co-operation between Distiller and FrameMaker, which I doubt.

I am reminded of some prototype software I once had to work with that died with 
the message 'Got surprised by error'.

So this is a substantial step forward: I now only have to find out what was 
wrong with this graphic (a PDF). Converting it to a TIFF fixed the issue.

Many thanks to all.

[These are all author-suppled graphics files - often a bit of a nightmare, I 
find.]

-- 
Steve
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Can no longer create .ps that does not error in Distiller

2013-12-11 Thread Steve Rickaby 
If there is anyone out there who is still using FrameMaker 7.0p577 on Mac in 
Classic, maybe they can help me with this problem, as I've wasted hours on it 
and I'm a bit desperate.

For historical reasons, I'm still on this setup. I reported earlier that the 
AdobePS printer driver, which I have used without any problem for a great many 
books and years, now falls over with the message 'The printer description file 
associated with this printer has caused an error (101)' on *both* Macs - and 
then FrameMaker crashes. I'm using the Acrobat PPD. This occurs even with a new 
clean installation of FrameMaker. Nothing significant has changed with the 
setups. I have therefore abandoned AdopePS.

So I am using the Apple Laserwriter 8 driver and writing .ps to file. However, 
I'm getting miscellaneous graphics-related errors that are sending Distiller 
(6) into a frenzy and an apparent endless loop. The main error appears to be 

'%%[ Error: limitcheck; OffendingCommand: 
310E121210182A3E4A674394332E3924051A251C3844423941392F2723241C1B425D5F635D5542392946552021292737454662564D4E4A3B505D6467552B3C3
 ]%%
%%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%'

after which Distiller goes a bit mad and reports completion figures of 
thousands of percent.

I have one offending chapter, and turning the graphics off in that chapter 
allows the chapter to distill without error. However, if I try the entire book 
up to that point, I still get errors.

I'm not looking for someone to fix this, but I'd be most grateful for 
suggestions for a sensible diagnostic procedure. Maybe isolating the graphics 
to separate files and trying to create PDFs from them?

[I do have FrameMaker 10 for Windows, but at present don't have a machine on 
which to run it.]

-- 
Steve

Can no longer create .ps that does not error in Distiller

2013-12-11 Thread Art Campbell 
Isolating the graphics one by one would be approach. I have a hunch it'll
be a .PDF or .EPS; maybe conflicting versions of PostScript or something
obscure like that.

One important item you left out of your description is whether you're using
the distiller head that's installed by the FM distribution or have a
complete version of Acrobat...

Art Campbell
  art.campbell at gmail.com
  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and
a redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358

I support www.TheGrotonLine.com, hyperlocal news for Groton MA.


On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:47 AM, Steve Rickaby <
srickaby at wordmongers.demon.co.uk> wrote:

> If there is anyone out there who is still using FrameMaker 7.0p577 on Mac
> in Classic, maybe they can help me with this problem, as I've wasted hours
> on it and I'm a bit desperate.
>
> For historical reasons, I'm still on this setup. I reported earlier that
> the AdobePS printer driver, which I have used without any problem for a
> great many books and years, now falls over with the message 'The printer
> description file associated with this printer has caused an error (101)' on
> *both* Macs - and then FrameMaker crashes. I'm using the Acrobat PPD. This
> occurs even with a new clean installation of FrameMaker. Nothing
> significant has changed with the setups. I have therefore abandoned AdopePS.
>
> So I am using the Apple Laserwriter 8 driver and writing .ps to file.
> However, I'm getting miscellaneous graphics-related errors that are sending
> Distiller (6) into a frenzy and an apparent endless loop. The main error
> appears to be
>
> '%%[ Error: limitcheck; OffendingCommand:
> 310E121210182A3E4A674394332E3924051A251C3844423941392F2723241C1B425D5F635D5542392946552021292737454662564D4E4A3B505D6467552B3C3
> ]%%
> %%[ Flushing: rest of job (to end-of-file) will be ignored ]%%'
>
> after which Distiller goes a bit mad and reports completion figures of
> thousands of percent.
>
> I have one offending chapter, and turning the graphics off in that chapter
> allows the chapter to distill without error. However, if I try the entire
> book up to that point, I still get errors.
>
> I'm not looking for someone to fix this, but I'd be most grateful for
> suggestions for a sensible diagnostic procedure. Maybe isolating the
> graphics to separate files and trying to create PDFs from them?
>
> [I do have FrameMaker 10 for Windows, but at present don't have a machine
> on which to run it.]
>
> --
> Steve
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2013-12-11 Thread Steve Rickaby 
At 11:24 -0500 11/12/13, Art Campbell wrote:

>Isolating the graphics one by one would be approach. I have a hunch it'll be a 
>.PDF or .EPS; maybe conflicting versions of PostScript or something obscure 
>like that.

Thanks.

>One important item you left out of your description is whether you're using 
>the distiller head that's installed by the FM distribution or have a complete 
>version of Acrobat...

I am using a complete version of Acrobat 6. I did check, though, and Acrobat 6 
doesn't seem to install AdobePS. However, as I said, I've given up on that, so 
I guess there's no point chasing the 101 error unless I can't get the 
LaserWriter 8 driver to play.

Obviously I am using an old system, but it's always *just worked*, and now it 
suddenly doesn't, I'm a bit lost. (The reason I'm not running v 10 on Windows 
is that I've been waiting for the new Mac Pro.)

-- 
Steve

Can no longer create .ps that does not error in Distiller [progress]

2013-12-11 Thread Steve Rickaby 
My grateful thanks to Art and Syed for much help and moral support.

Syed - you were right, I should have tried MIF-washing the problem chapter 
first. After doing so, I got a .ps file that Distiller could distill, but with 
a Ps error, and recovery, producing a PDF with the message 'PostScript error 
(undefined filename)' where the problem graphic should have been - and thus 
identifying the problem file.

What Distiller actually said was 'A PostScript error occurred. FrameMaker is 
attempting recovery.' That's a *really* helpful error message ;-) And one that 
also implies co-operation between Distiller and FrameMaker, which I doubt.

I am reminded of some prototype software I once had to work with that died with 
the message 'Got surprised by error'.

So this is a substantial step forward: I now only have to find out what was 
wrong with this graphic (a PDF). Converting it to a TIFF fixed the issue.

Many thanks to all.

[These are all author-suppled graphics files - often a bit of a nightmare, I 
find.]

-- 
Steve