Can one selectively remove Change Bars in a Document?
Hi, all. Using FM 8 (latest version) on a Windows XP SP3 system. Is there any way to do selective removal of Change Bars? I.e., without removing them from the whole document (from the menu item that does this)? Reasons and comments: 1. In some of my specification documents, I explicit note that some text changes, without content or meaning differences, do not get Change Bars (to avoid too many situations where people go looking at Change Bars for content change and see no real change!). As an aside, it is good that format changes do not trigger Change Bars - whew! 2. Occasionally (often enough to be a pain), I find that changing the text INSIDE a table, and then undoing it, doesn't remove the Change Bars! 3. I also noted that sometimes, doing an Update References SOMETIMES causes references to tables - not all of them either (wish it was consistent!) - to get flagged with Change Bars, even though they did not change at all (either number or page or figure name etc.). These, at least, I can usually fix manually (sigh) with a Set Default Font ... but I do have to go looking for them - which is a pain! Anywa, for tables, I have tried using the Use Default Font method and that does not ALWAYS work. I have also noted, that till the file gets saved, sometimes the Change Bars do not update! However, SOMETIMES, none of the above methods work for text inside the table! Then, I get stuck with the Change Bar in places where I cannot remove them. Hence my question ... Z ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Can one selectively remove Change Bars in a Document?
Syed, You wrote: Is there any way to do selective removal of Change Bars? I.e., without removing them from the whole document (from the menu item that does this)? ... Select the area that has change bars; open the Character Designer, and from the Commands drop-down menu choose Set Window to As Is (or use Shift-F8). Turn off the Change Bar property and click Apply. Shlomo Perets MicroType, FrameMaker/Acrobat training consulting http://www.microtype.com Improve Your FrameMaker Skills live web-based training sessions, starting October 16 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Re: Can one selectively remove Change Bars in a Document?
Select the text you want to (de-)change-bar, then hit ESC, c, and h (in sequence, none at the same time). This toggles the change bar on and off. --William [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all. Using FM 8 (latest version) on a Windows XP SP3 system. Is there any way to do selective removal of Change Bars? I.e., without removing them from the whole document (from the menu item that does this)? Reasons and comments: 1. In some of my specification documents, I explicit note that some text changes, without content or meaning differences, do not get Change Bars (to avoid too many situations where people go looking at Change Bars for content change and see no real change!). As an aside, it is good that format changes do not trigger Change Bars - whew! 2. Occasionally (often enough to be a pain), I find that changing the text INSIDE a table, and then undoing it, doesn't remove the Change Bars! 3. I also noted that sometimes, doing an Update References SOMETIMES causes references to tables - not all of them either (wish it was consistent!) - to get flagged with Change Bars, even though they did not change at all (either number or page or figure name etc.). These, at least, I can usually fix manually (sigh) with a Set Default Font ... but I do have to go looking for them - which is a pain! Anywa, for tables, I have tried using the Use Default Font method and that does not ALWAYS work. I have also noted, that till the file gets saved, sometimes the Change Bars do not update! However, SOMETIMES, none of the above methods work for text inside the table! Then, I get stuck with the Change Bar in places where I cannot remove them. Hence my question ... Z ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Can one selectively remove Change Bars in a Document?
Perfect! That worked like a charm. Thanks much! Z -Original Message- From: Shlomo Perets [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 12:16 PM To: Syed Zaeem Hosain ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Cc: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Can one selectively remove Change Bars in a Document? Syed, You wrote: Is there any way to do selective removal of Change Bars? I.e., without removing them from the whole document (from the menu item that does this)? ... Select the area that has change bars; open the Character Designer, and from the Commands drop-down menu choose Set Window to As Is (or use Shift-F8). Turn off the Change Bar property and click Apply. Shlomo Perets MicroType, FrameMaker/Acrobat training consulting http://www.microtype.com Improve Your FrameMaker Skills live web-based training sessions, starting October 16 ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
RE: Can one selectively remove Change Bars in a Document?
Select the text you want to (de-)change-bar, then hit ESC, c, and h (in sequence, none at the same time). This toggles the change bar on and off. Thanks! This seems to work in body in normal text paragraphs well, but has a bit of difficulty with text inside paragraphs ... I may need to do more experimentation. Thanks again. Z - Syed Zaeem HosainSVP, Engineering Chief Technical Officer Aeris Communications, Inc. t: +1 (408) 557-1905 2680 Zanker Road f: +1 (408) 557-1925 San Jose, CA 95134-2100. [EMAIL PROTECTED] - ___ You are currently subscribed to Framers as [EMAIL PROTECTED] Send list messages to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] or visit http://lists.frameusers.com/mailman/options/framers/archive%40mail-archive.com Send administrative questions to [EMAIL PROTECTED] Visit http://www.frameusers.com/ for more resources and info.
Can one selectively "remove" Change Bars in a Document?
Hi, all. Using FM 8 (latest version) on a Windows XP SP3 system. Is there any way to do selective removal of Change Bars? I.e., without removing them from the whole document (from the menu item that does this)? Reasons and comments: 1. In some of my specification documents, I explicit note that some text changes, without content or meaning differences, do not get Change Bars (to avoid too many situations where people go looking at Change Bars for content change and see no real change!). As an aside, it is good that format changes do not trigger Change Bars - whew! 2. Occasionally (often enough to be a pain), I find that changing the text INSIDE a table, and then undoing it, doesn't remove the Change Bars! 3. I also noted that sometimes, doing an "Update References" SOMETIMES causes references to tables - not all of them either (wish it was consistent!) - to get flagged with Change Bars, even though they did not change at all (either number or page or figure name etc.). These, at least, I can usually fix manually (sigh) with a "Set Default Font" ... but I do have to go looking for them - which is a pain! Anywa, for tables, I have tried using the "Use Default Font" method and that does not ALWAYS work. I have also noted, that till the file gets saved, sometimes the Change Bars do not update! However, SOMETIMES, none of the above methods work for text inside the table! Then, I get stuck with the Change Bar in places where I cannot remove them. Hence my question ... Z
Can one selectively "remove" Change Bars in a Document?
Syed, You wrote: >Is there any way to do selective removal of Change Bars? I.e., without >removing them from the whole document (from the menu item that does >this)? ... Select the area that has change bars; open the Character Designer, and from the Commands drop-down menu choose Set Window to As Is (or use Shift-F8). Turn off the Change Bar property and click Apply. Shlomo Perets MicroType, FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting http://www.microtype.com "Improve Your FrameMaker Skills" live web-based training sessions, starting October 16
Can one selectively "remove" Change Bars in a Document?
Select the text you want to (de-)change-bar, then hit ESC, c, and h (in sequence, none at the same time). This toggles the change bar on and off. --William Syed.Hosain at aeris.net wrote: > Hi, all. > > Using FM 8 (latest version) on a Windows XP SP3 system. > > Is there any way to do selective removal of Change Bars? I.e., without > removing them from the whole document (from the menu item that does > this)? > > Reasons and comments: > > 1. In some of my specification documents, I explicit note that some text > changes, without content or meaning differences, do not get Change Bars > (to avoid too many situations where people go looking at Change Bars for > content change and see no real change!). As an aside, it is good that > format changes do not trigger Change Bars - whew! > > 2. Occasionally (often enough to be a pain), I find that changing the > text INSIDE a table, and then undoing it, doesn't remove the Change > Bars! > > 3. I also noted that sometimes, doing an "Update References" SOMETIMES > causes references to tables - not all of them either (wish it was > consistent!) - to get flagged with Change Bars, even though they did not > change at all (either number or page or figure name etc.). These, at > least, I can usually fix manually (sigh) with a "Set Default Font" ... > but I do have to go looking for them - which is a pain! > > Anywa, for tables, I have tried using the "Use Default Font" method and > that does not ALWAYS work. I have also noted, that till the file gets > saved, sometimes the Change Bars do not update! > > However, SOMETIMES, none of the above methods work for text inside the > table! Then, I get stuck with the Change Bar in places where I cannot > remove them. > > Hence my question ... > > Z
Can one selectively "remove" Change Bars in a Document?
Perfect! That worked like a charm. Thanks much! Z > -Original Message- > From: Shlomo Perets [mailto:shlomo2 at microtype.com] > Sent: Sunday, October 12, 2008 12:16 PM > To: Syed Zaeem Hosain (Syed.Hosain at aeris.net) > Cc: Framers at FrameUsers.com > Subject: Re: Can one selectively "remove" Change Bars in a Document? > > Syed, > > You wrote: > > >Is there any way to do selective removal of Change Bars? I.e., without > >removing them from the whole document (from the menu item that does > >this)? ... > > Select the area that has change bars; open the Character Designer, and from > the Commands drop-down menu choose Set Window to As Is (or use Shift-F8). > Turn off the Change Bar property and click Apply. > > > Shlomo Perets > > MicroType, FrameMaker/Acrobat training & consulting > http://www.microtype.com > > "Improve Your FrameMaker Skills" live web-based training sessions, starting > October 16
Can one selectively "remove" Change Bars in a Document?
> Select the text you want to (de-)change-bar, then hit ESC, c, and h (in > sequence, none at the same time). This toggles the change bar on and off. Thanks! This seems to work in body in normal text paragraphs well, but has a bit of difficulty with text inside paragraphs ... I may need to do more experimentation. Thanks again. Z - Syed Zaeem HosainSVP, Engineering & Chief Technical Officer Aeris Communications, Inc. t: +1 (408) 557-1905 2680 Zanker Road f: +1 (408) 557-1925 San Jose, CA 95134-2100. Syed.Hosain at aeris.net -
