Cannot import a .jpg

2009-12-07 Thread Nancy Allison
Hi, all.

I am using FrameMaker 7.1 on Windows XP SP3. I've just received many zipped 
.jpgs from someone else; FrameMaker gives me this error message when I try to 
import one:

The filter encountered an error and could not complete the translation.

They are displayed with no problem in Windows Picture and Fax Viewer.

Any ideas as to what is going on and how I fix the problem? I don't know how 
the jpgs were produced initially but can go back to the source if need be.

--Nancy
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Re: Cannot import a .jpg

2009-12-07 Thread Art Campbell
I've run into this a couple times when an application didn't create the .jpg
as the import filter expected it...
Try opening and SaveAs a new file name in Photoshop, or SnagIt Editor, or
another editor that you have on hand to see if a different editor makes a
difference.

Art

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On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Nancy Allison ma...@verizon.net wrote:

 Hi, all.

 I am using FrameMaker 7.1 on Windows XP SP3. I've just received many zipped
 .jpgs from someone else; FrameMaker gives me this error message when I try
 to import one:

 The filter encountered an error and could not complete the translation.

 They are displayed with no problem in Windows Picture and Fax Viewer.

 Any ideas as to what is going on and how I fix the problem? I don't know
 how the jpgs were produced initially but can go back to the source if need
 be.

 --Nancy
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RE: Cannot import a .jpg

2009-12-07 Thread Ed
I agree with Art that opening and re-saving the file is your best bet. If
possible, save in another file format than JPG, such as PNG or GIF, as
you'll lose data as a result of compression. You're essentially re-jpeging
a jpeg, which throws out some pixels each time.

-=Ed.

 -Original Message-
 From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-
 boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
 Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 4:04 PM
 To: Nancy Allison
 Cc: framers@lists.frameusers.com
 Subject: Re: Cannot import a .jpg
 
 I've run into this a couple times when an application didn't create the
.jpg
 as the import filter expected it...
 Try opening and SaveAs a new file name in Photoshop, or SnagIt Editor, or
 another editor that you have on hand to see if a different editor makes a
 difference.
 
 Art
 
 Art Campbell
  art.campb...@gmail.com
  ... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and
a
 redheaded girl. -- Richard Thompson
  No disclaimers apply.
   DoD 358
 
 
 On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Nancy Allison ma...@verizon.net wrote:
 
  Hi, all.
 
  I am using FrameMaker 7.1 on Windows XP SP3. I've just received many
zipped
  .jpgs from someone else; FrameMaker gives me this error message when I
try
  to import one:
 
  The filter encountered an error and could not complete the
translation.
 
  They are displayed with no problem in Windows Picture and Fax Viewer.
 
  Any ideas as to what is going on and how I fix the problem? I don't know
  how the jpgs were produced initially but can go back to the source if
need
  be.
 
  --Nancy
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Re: Re: Cannot import a .jpg

2009-12-07 Thread Nancy Allison
Woohoo! Thanks, all -- I downloaded an evaluation copy of SnagIt, opened and 
saved the file in the same format, and this time FrameMaker imported it with no 
problem. I suppose any graphics tool might do; SnagIt just happened to be easy.

--Nancy
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RE: Cannot import a .jpg

2009-12-07 Thread Fred Ridder

Responding to Nancy Allison, Ed. wrote:

 I agree with Art that opening and re-saving the file is your best bet. If
 possible, save in another file format than JPG, such as PNG or GIF, as
 you'll lose data as a result of compression. You're essentially re-jpeging
 a jpeg, which throws out some pixels each time.


That's not quite accurate. JPEG never throws out any pixels, because that 
would change the dimensions of the image itself. What happens is that it throws 
out some of the information (typically color information) *about* some of the 
pixels based on its area-based image compression algorithm, which assumes that 
the vast majority of individual pixels in a photograph will be pretty close in 
color and brightness to the other pixels that immediately surround it. Yes, it 
is lossy; and yes, it does cause progressive degradation. But it doesn't do 
this by reducing the number of pixels, only by reducing the amount of 
information it records about each pixel.

And note that this kind of *image* compression, which is inherently lossy, is a 
completely different concept than the lossless *data* compression that is used 
to produce zip files (among other things). In data compression, no data is ever 
thrown away; it is just stored in a more efficient format.

-Fred Ridder

 

 
  
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RE: Re: Cannot import a .jpg

2009-12-07 Thread Syed.Hosain
Hi, Nancy.

Re-saving a JPEG original as another JPEG can be further lossy
(compounding the initial drop in quality) ... you might want to make
sure that the image quality has not degraded too far. Assuming you did
not go back to the original image source material, of course!

You can introduce bits of fluff pixels in places that did not have them
before - particularly in sharp edges or steep color transition points.

Or you can save in another graphics format - like PNG - that is not
lossy.

Z

-Original Message-
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[mailto:framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 1:38 PM
To: framers@lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Re: Cannot import a .jpg

Woohoo! Thanks, all -- I downloaded an evaluation copy of SnagIt, opened
and saved the file in the same format, and this time FrameMaker imported
it with no problem. I suppose any graphics tool might do; SnagIt just
happened to be easy.
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Cannot import a .jpg

2009-12-07 Thread Nancy Allison
Hi, all.

I am using FrameMaker 7.1 on Windows XP SP3. I've just received many zipped 
.jpgs from someone else; FrameMaker gives me this error message when I try to 
import one:

"The filter encountered an error and could not complete the translation."

They are displayed with no problem in Windows Picture and Fax Viewer.

Any ideas as to what is going on and how I fix the problem? I don't know how 
the jpgs were produced initially but can go back to the source if need be.

--Nancy


Cannot import a .jpg

2009-12-07 Thread Art Campbell
I've run into this a couple times when an application didn't create the .jpg
as the import filter expected it...
Try opening and SaveAs a new file name in Photoshop, or SnagIt Editor, or
another editor that you have on hand to see if a different editor makes a
difference.

Art

Art Campbell
 art.campbell at gmail.com
 "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and a
redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
 No disclaimers apply.
  DoD 358


On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Nancy Allison  wrote:

> Hi, all.
>
> I am using FrameMaker 7.1 on Windows XP SP3. I've just received many zipped
> .jpgs from someone else; FrameMaker gives me this error message when I try
> to import one:
>
> "The filter encountered an error and could not complete the translation."
>
> They are displayed with no problem in Windows Picture and Fax Viewer.
>
> Any ideas as to what is going on and how I fix the problem? I don't know
> how the jpgs were produced initially but can go back to the source if need
> be.
>
> --Nancy
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Cannot import a .jpg

2009-12-07 Thread Ed
I agree with Art that opening and re-saving the file is your best bet. If
possible, save in another file format than JPG, such as PNG or GIF, as
you'll lose data as a result of compression. You're essentially "re-jpeging
a jpeg", which throws out some pixels each time.

-=Ed.

> -Original Message-
> From: framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com [mailto:framers-
> bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Art Campbell
> Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 4:04 PM
> To: Nancy Allison
> Cc: framers at lists.frameusers.com
> Subject: Re: Cannot import a .jpg
> 
> I've run into this a couple times when an application didn't create the
.jpg
> as the import filter expected it...
> Try opening and SaveAs a new file name in Photoshop, or SnagIt Editor, or
> another editor that you have on hand to see if a different editor makes a
> difference.
> 
> Art
> 
> Art Campbell
>  art.campbell at gmail.com
>  "... In my opinion, there's nothing in this world beats a '52 Vincent and
a
> redheaded girl." -- Richard Thompson
>  No disclaimers apply.
>   DoD 358
> 
> 
> On Mon, Dec 7, 2009 at 3:52 PM, Nancy Allison  wrote:
> 
> > Hi, all.
> >
> > I am using FrameMaker 7.1 on Windows XP SP3. I've just received many
zipped
> > .jpgs from someone else; FrameMaker gives me this error message when I
try
> > to import one:
> >
> > "The filter encountered an error and could not complete the
translation."
> >
> > They are displayed with no problem in Windows Picture and Fax Viewer.
> >
> > Any ideas as to what is going on and how I fix the problem? I don't know
> > how the jpgs were produced initially but can go back to the source if
need
> > be.
> >
> > --Nancy
> > ___
> >
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Cannot import a .jpg

2009-12-07 Thread Nancy Allison
Woohoo! Thanks, all -- I downloaded an evaluation copy of SnagIt, opened and 
saved the file in the same format, and this time FrameMaker imported it with no 
problem. I suppose any graphics tool might do; SnagIt just happened to be easy.

--Nancy


Cannot import a .jpg

2009-12-07 Thread Fred Ridder

Responding to Nancy Allison, Ed. wrote:

> I agree with Art that opening and re-saving the file is your best bet. If
> possible, save in another file format than JPG, such as PNG or GIF, as
> you'll lose data as a result of compression. You're essentially "re-jpeging
> a jpeg", which throws out some pixels each time.


That's not quite accurate. JPEG never "throws out" any pixels, because that 
would change the dimensions of the image itself. What happens is that it throws 
out some of the information (typically color information) *about* some of the 
pixels based on its area-based image compression algorithm, which assumes that 
the vast majority of individual pixels in a photograph will be pretty close in 
color and brightness to the other pixels that immediately surround it. Yes, it 
is lossy; and yes, it does cause progressive degradation. But it doesn't do 
this by reducing the number of pixels, only by reducing the amount of 
information it records about each pixel.

And note that this kind of *image* compression, which is inherently lossy, is a 
completely different concept than the lossless *data* compression that is used 
to produce zip files (among other things). In data compression, no data is ever 
thrown away; it is just stored in a more efficient format.

-Fred Ridder







Cannot import a .jpg

2009-12-07 Thread syed.hos...@aeris.net
Hi, Nancy.

Re-saving a JPEG original as another JPEG can be "further" lossy
(compounding the initial drop in quality) ... you might want to make
sure that the image quality has not degraded too far. Assuming you did
not go back to the original image source material, of course!

You can introduce bits of fluff pixels in places that did not have them
before - particularly in sharp edges or steep color transition points.

Or you can save in another graphics format - like PNG - that is not
lossy.

Z

-Original Message-
From: framers-boun...@lists.frameusers.com
[mailto:framers-bounces at lists.frameusers.com] On Behalf Of Nancy Allison
Sent: Monday, December 07, 2009 1:38 PM
To: framers at lists.frameusers.com
Subject: Re: Re: Cannot import a .jpg

Woohoo! Thanks, all -- I downloaded an evaluation copy of SnagIt, opened
and saved the file in the same format, and this time FrameMaker imported
it with no problem. I suppose any graphics tool might do; SnagIt just
happened to be easy.